This video is based on a new editorial by Joseph Farah, founder and publisher of WND.com.
The time is here. The time is now!
Pharaoh, let my people go!
We do not choose to follow you into bondage in Egypt.
We are entitled to the land that was originally ours.
The land we had already fought to keep, not once but twice!
Pharaoh, let my people go!
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
I don’t believe secession of any state is necessary at this time because we have not exhausted all constitutional means of redressing the grievances that so many citizens have. For example we have a judicial oligarchy in the Supreme court which our president and congress as well as state governments have cowtowed to for too long. If we believe that the ninth and tenth amendments limit the power of the federal government to only those enumerated in the constitution, the people need to be aware of the extraordinary power they have as America’s fourth branch of government and ask our congressional leaders to reign in the abuses of power exercised by the judiciary such as Roe V Wade and more recently Obamacare. The courts do not make law by their opinions; it is the job of congress to make laws according to the first amendment and the president to enforce laws which congress makes. The courts merely advise the other two branches as to the constitutionality of a particular law. That does not mean that they have the final say. That belongs with the people. If any branch of government exceeds their enumerated authority, the people need to hold their elected officials accountable. One example I would like to see is to call for the recall or impeachment of supreme court justices who legislate from the bench such as John Roberts did when he called the penalty for people who do not have health insurance a tax. It is not the Supreme Court to decide a penalty to be a tax when even the Obama administration didn’t even call it a tax. Another example is that congress and state legilslatures should ignore Roe v Wade and should declare it unconstitutional because it clearly violates the Declaration of Independence’s unalienable right to life clause and the fifth and fourteenth amendments’ due process clause. Does not the constitution state in article 3 section 1 that the judges serve “under good behavior”? Judges who legislate from the bench are not behaving themselves. Congressional leaders and presidents who do not hold them accountable are negligent in their duties. It is time that the people hold them accountable.
Well, SonofAsaph, some of what you said is absolutely true. The true power in the United States lies with the people and the States. The rest of your comments show you have not accepted the true state of affairs.
Congress has not, and will not, listen to their constituents. They will not take action against the unconstitutional usurper occupying the White House, nor will they rein in the unconstitutional Decisions of the Courts because those things are not in their interest. The bigger the government, the more power they have and the more difficult it is for the people to restore freedom. We have seen in the 2010 and 2012 elections that we will get no satisfaction from our elected representatives on any measure of fiscal responsibility, limited government, or moral restraint. And as long as so many voters either pay little attention and/or demand a continuation of the freebies, we cannot rid ourselves of the corrupt incumbent politicians who are systematically removing our freedom in favor of tyranny.
Short of revolution, our only chance is to work through our individual States to restore the Constitution and demand and retake our freedom. So change your prespective and put your efforts to work where they will do the most good. Just make sure you replace the corrupt incumbent politicians in your State government if you truly want to restore Constitutional government.
The only solution which will solve our crisis is a spiritual awakening of a magnitude which preceded both the civil war as well as the Revolution. Today, everyone is doing what is right in their own eyes. “if it feels good do it!” Our people no longer fear God and believe He will not hold us accountable to our actions! Our founding fathers believed in divine providence, in divine natural law and the judgement of evil nations and because of these truths our nation became the freest, most prosperous nation on the face of the earth. Once we reject these principles, our doom is only a matter of time. Secession or any other man-made remedy will not work. This begins with people of faith once again renouncing wickedness, standing for truth and righteousness and resolutely refusing to compromise on biblcal statutes and refusing to vote for anyone whose public policy detracts from these fundamental principles which exalts any nation dedicated to living by them. Just read our history. I recommend a good book, ORIGINAL INTENT by David Barton, a great recourse to begin to learn what principles our forefathers held which made this nation great.
Americans have gotten smart because of this massive hoax with Barack Hussein Obama and his mafia Administration. Everybody has to make this simple decision after evaluating the entire situation. Is America going to sit by in idle as one single entity ( Barack Hussein Obama ) a full blown, radical, Communist, Muslim, Chicago, crack smoking thug threatens every aspect of your life by a total dictatorship ? America has had it and there is no way in hell that this entity of evil will survive in his attempts to destroy America. At this point 30 states demand a peaceful secession and the number will be growing. In my own mind, one way or another, i feel that Barack Hussein Obama will be physically removed from office very soon. There are high level Military officials that are organized and well aware of what has to be done when the time has come. Barack Hussein Obama is now a verifiable threat to national security in every way imaginable as well as the current inherent threat of him being the one single cause of a looming civil war. No matter how you cut it, Congress realizes that it would be a lot easier if he is forcefully removed now before there is massive death and destruction in the United States. It is the obvious unless Military steps in now to remove him.
Just remember that even if Obama is removed, (and tried and strung up for treason,) we are left with a totally corrupt Congress that actively aided and abetted his unconstitutional usurpation, or stood silently by while he has systemataically tried to dismantle our Constitutional Republic. It is no longer enough to remove an unconsititutional executive, it is critically important to restore Constitutional government, end the administrative state and resume the power of the ‘consent of the governed.’
Note, that to fully restore the US Constitution to a Republican form of government as originally intended, ALL the Amendments after the 12th Amendment would have to deleted, or voided out. Especially the 14th which gives the Federal government authority over the states and restricts the 9th and 10th Amendment. Also note the 14th A was forcefully rammed through the states at gunpoint in some states! They were made to sign the 14th A.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
PS: Pilgrim, I see you have come a long way since we both discussed things together. Glad to see you learning fairly properly.
@Mike, That would be great Mike, if you didn’t have to work against all those that put Obama back in the white house on 11/6/12. They still think that they are going to get something out of this adminstration one way or the other. If we can get the removal done without that bunch of idiots trying to stop us, then we might have a chance. But in that aspect, I wouldn’t hold my breath. We need to find a way that no one wants him in office anymore.. then you might have a chance at that…IMHO…
Most of our politicians don’t listen to We, the People, any more. I do think we have the right to secede. Why do we have to be forced to live with a dictator in our White House with politicians who refuse to do anything about him? According to the U.S. Constitution seceding is the only way to go.
Perhaps we should begin with non-violent civil disobedience. This should be practiced by state governments refusing to comply with laws which clearly violate the Constitution.
Good idea to try non-violence first. We at League of the South prefer and state that such be done peacefully. Even in 1860-61 when the South seceded then, they repeatedly called for peaceful separation, that the South had absolutely no intentions of attacking to over-throw the DC government. They only wanted to go in peace. Lincoln made sure this was not possible by calculated ploy at Ft Sumter. This ploy was designed to force the firing on Ft Sumter or the South capitulate and start repaying the federal taxes.
At the league of the South concerning the petitions today, we understand it stands little, if any chance of success. That the federal government will simply brush aside these petitions and claim, as do the liberals, they are a bunch of hot air, that the signers are bluffing. Oddly, that is what the North thought in 1860-61 at the onset of that war also. We believe in exploring all variables that benefits our cause short of violence. We already know that these petitions are not needed nor Constitutionally required, that it is like a daughter asking her father if she can elope. But we have to try as nicely as possible and in every way possible. When the People are ready and truly have had enough of DC, they will act on their own and without anyone’s nagging them on. We strive to truthfully and honestly educate the public who has been indoctrinated by decades of federal propaganda. And we try to help those who truly wish to help themselves.
Personally I believe it will take much more than any petition to satisfy our goals, but that power rests within you the People! This is only a start of things to come. Note that it took almost all of 1861 for the Southern states to formalize their secession from the union. Notice the mood of the people then was practically the same as today. Enough is enough!
But what do I know? I’m just the product of Southern rednecks who committed a lot of incest. That I’m too dumb to know anything. Well, that’s the Yankee side of the story. That’s the propaganda your government has allowed and encouraged you to believe. Now you can believe anything you want, as you know more of the other side!
Given the fact that I was born and raised in Massachusetts and did not move to the south until the age of 43. I am now 52, I am learning perspectives from a southern point of view, as I look at the civil war, I am not in favor of slavery or calling any human being inferior to another. I believe that is why the south lost, because on that issue the south’s cause was morally unsustainable and could not be blessed by Almighty God. The 14th amendment which I have heard many say they want to overturn, I believe only reiterated what our Declaration and Preamble stated, that no one should be denied the unalienable rights given by God irregardless of race gender and I believe statuts of birth (as in the case of abortion) and it is the duty of the United States government to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves AND our posterity. I believe that conservatives and many who believe in the appropriateness of secession this time around have the moral upper hand. This idea of secession, if it ever took wing like before could cost countless lives, fortunes and heartache. After all revolution, though sometimes necessary is not easy and is messy. All who advocate secession must seriously sit down and count the cost it would take. I pray for a spiritual revival which will inflame the hearts of the people to rise and politically overthow the tyrants who would trample on our God given liberties.
Let me ask you a question.
Answer not from looking up the answer, but what you think it is.
The question is; What percent of Southerners do you think owned slaves in 1860?
Now the above was easy; How about these?
Did the North have slavery and slaves?
If so; were they all black people?
What year did slavery end in the North?
And a bonus question.
What did Abraham Lincoln have to say about slavery during his election and 1st Inaugural Address?
Answer those questions and then I’ll show you how things have been turned around against the South concerning slavery, and how brainwashed people have become through government propaganda.
Michael, I appreciate your approval of my learning curve, but it doesn’t change my opinion of the lack of authority by the Southern States seceding from the Union without a ratification of three-fourths of the total States. At that time the federal government had not violated the Constitution relating to the issue of slavery, or, as far as I know, in any other significant respect. (I still have not taken the time to delve into Civil War history.)
Today, however, the situation has been completely reversed. As the federal government has violated virtually every provision of the Constitution, each and every State has both the legal and moral right to secede from the United States without the approval of the federal government. I still think signing a petition to the federal government asking for permission to secede is both futile and lacks the assertion of sovereignty necessary for the separation.
I have read the 16th and 17th Amendments were improperly ratified, but I have not previously read the 14th Amendment was ratified by force. Please link to verification. I agree that any Amendment that was forcefully or improperly ratified should be voided, but possibly reconsidered for ratification. I realize all of the Amendments you indicated were ratified after the Civil War and assume that is your reason for the nullification of these Amendments. I’d appreciate a brief explanation of your reasoning.
As to Amendment 14, and putting aside your statement it was forcibly ratified, which provision(s) removed authority from the states and/or restricted the 9th and 10th Amendments?
If it is the voting rights issue, I agree that before the Civil War, the individual States determined who would be eligible to vote in each State held election. Since that time, five of the seventeen resulting Amendments, each ratified by the States, relate to citizen voting rights. I believe that in the almost 150 years since the War, those same voting rights would have been changed with or without the War.
I do have an issue with the current definition and application of U.S. citizenship, (but, of course, citizenship and naturalization were already enumerated powers of Congress). The 14th Amendment was intended to reverse the Dred Scott Decision and provide citizenship for the freed slaves and their children born in the United States. Even after the Civil War, America did not offer citizenship to children born in the United States of foreign parents. (Mario Apuzzo, Esq. gives an excellent and detailed history of U.S. citizenship in his updated treatise dated October 28 2012, titled “Barack Obama is Ineligible to be President….” at his website, http://puzo1.blogspot.com/. In U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) the Court decided the U.S. born son of Chinese citizens (aliens) who were permanent residents of the U.S. was a ‘native born’ (but not a ‘natural born’) citizen of the United States. This decision changed the government’s application of U.S. citizenship.
Although Apuzzo’s document discusses additional subsequent changes in the application of U.S. citizenship, it unfortunately does not continue to the Court’s change in application (1970s?) that provides birthright citizenship to the children of aliens who entered the U.S. illegally, and to those aliens who entered legally, but with no intention of living in the United States, for the sole purpose of obtaining U.S. citizenship for their foreign birth child.
The several judiciary expansions of the intent statutory law is a usurpation of Congress’s legislative authority that has resulted in rapidly growing minority class of U.S. citizens with little to no allegiance to the United States.
I can’t address all your Q&As in one post. Nor can I address so many in much detail. However I can point you in the right directions.
First the 14th Amendment. This Amendment actually turns the USA into “Corporate” America. It effectively strips states of their powers thus crippling the 9th and especially the 10th Amendments. Anyone here needs to fully read these links I give in order to understand the scope of the 14th A. In short this amendment strips you of your sovereignty and makes you a ward of the federal government! This Amendment is the worst of the worst! Sadly read at what the Federals done to South in order to push this onto everyone, North included. And you people still want to maintain a union? If so you’re crazy, meaning a liberal Marxist!
“Most Southern states refused to ratify the Fourteenth Amendment and therefore Radical Republicans such as Thaddeus Stevens, Charles Sumner, Benjamin Wade, Henry Winter Davies and Benjamin Butler urged the passing of further legislation to impose these measures on the former Confederacy. The result was the 1867 Reconstruction Acts that divided the South into five military districts controlled by martial law, proclaimed universal manhood suffrage and required the new state constitutions to be drawn up.”
Read this closely as it is somewhat hard to follow in places.
One small section about 1/3 the way down deals with the use of military force in forcing state legislatures to pass the 14th Amendment.
Hopefully I’ve covered enough on the 14th A to get you pointed in the right direction.
Now let’s start on secession. Read the following article. It is one the best short super-condensed articles I’ve read concerning secession.
Wow! You’ve given me a lot of reading. It will take awhile. I’ll catch you somewhere, soon.
Just curious. Where is it specified in the Constitution that a state’s secession requires approval of three-fourths of the states?
So your angry and you want to SECEDE, huh?
Now you know how I felt in the courtroom in Tallahassee when the judge ruled that he couldn’t proceed against Obama’s name being on the ballot because Obama was not yet the ‘official’ nominee of the Democrat party.Now you know how I felt when Judge Malihi in Georgia warned Obama’s attorneys not to appear ‘at their own peril,’ and when they didn’t he ruled in Obama’s favor anyways.Now you know how I felt when I asked Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) to his face if he would support legislation such as that put forward by Sen. A.G. Crowe (R-LA) which would require presidential candidates to establish their constitutional eligibility before being permitted to have their name on the ballot in Louisiana and Sen. Vitter told me that ‘he’d look into it.’ Several months later Sen. Vitter endorsed Marco Rubio–ineligible to be president or vice-president as a non-natural-born citizen–as a Republican running mate for Romney!
Now you know how I felt when–after polls referenced in World Net Daily articles reported an enormous majority within the Tea Party and the Republican Party either believed that Obama was a fraud and ineligible or had their doubts–my Governor here in Louisiana, Bobby Jindal, a man constitutionally ineligible to be president as a non-natural born citizen, actively pursued, (and I mean literally: he actually followed the Romney campaign bus around), the nomination as the Republican VP running mate with no regard for the heartfelt cry from all corners of the country for our representatives to stand and defend the constitution against the criminal usurper, fraud and forger.Now you know how I felt when I stood and listened to the preliminary findings of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s volunteer Cold Case Posse and the pathetic liberal media puppets who attacked the messengers with what amounted to nothing less than the heckling of a crowd–the larger news media networks not even present for the presentation of incontrivertable evidence that the purported president had presented ‘We the People’ with patently fraudulent, forged documents in an effort to cover-up the most sinister crime in American history: the criminal usurpation of the office of the president of the United States of America.Now you know how I felt when I learned that, regarding the 8 different cases that have been denied a hearing by the Supreme Court, the two liberal judges illegally appointed by Obama did not have the measure of honor to recuse themselves from any discussion or deliberation on the cases when, quite naturally, were any of those cases to have proceeded successfully, the appointment of those two slimy worms would quite naturally have been retro-actively abrogated along with any and all decisions upon which they had ruled.
Now you know how I felt when investigative reporter Susan Daniels uncovered that Obama’s Social Security number is fraudulent and nothing was done about it.Now you know how I felt when I learned that when lead detective Mike Zullo attempted to inspect the registration log book at the Honolulu Dept. of Health in which Obama’s birth was recorded in 1961 he and a fellow detective from Maricopa County, Arizona were met by what any writer might describe as “goons” and instructed to depart the premises. (By the way, in 1961 any Honolulu resident could walk in to the Health Dept. and register an ‘unattended birth’ that had “taken place” –that’s right, they could just walk in and register a birth with no photos, no doctor’s note, nothing, and more than a few Japanese are on record as having done that for children born in Japan in order to aquire American citizenship for them. Hmmmmm.)
Now you know how I felt when Obama said–what were his words?–I don’t remember…something like, ‘should the winds of war change I will stand with Islam.’
Now you know how I felt when Dr. Jerome Corsi corroborated and reported that Obama prays in an impeccable Arabic; that’s right, with no distinguisable accent to a native speaker. Hmmmmm.
Now you know how I felt when Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, a surgeon in the 101st Airborne (Screaming Eagles), was stripped of his rank and court-martialed for simply requesting, as is his duty according to his oath to defend the constitution, that his purported commander-in-chief provide authentication that he legally, constitutionally, occupies said rank–not unlike any soldier authenticating an officer crossing a check-point–and for this he was dishonored and imprisoned. Lt. Col. Lakin had served in combat theaters of operation and was getting ready to re-deploy when he was wrongfully accused and imprisoned. Then Obama presented us with a forged birth certificate.
Where is the outrage? Where are the red-white-and-blue blooded Americans who would stand and fight or if neccesary lay down their lives for the American experiment in ‘government of the People?’
Secession is not the answer.
Abrogation now is the answer.
We the People of the United States of America demand the retro-active abrogation of the unconstitutional election of the fraud and forger, the ‘Manchurian’ Muslim from Mombasa, Barry Soetoro, Soebarkha, who fraudulently represented himself through his own literary agent for over 16 years as having been born in Kenya.
MR. OBAMA was in the commission of a crime when he was illegally elected. America is in the midst of a constitutional crisis of unparalleled magnitude: we have no legal sitting president or vice-president.
Obama needs to be taken into custody by the appropriate authority and debriefed. I understand water-boarding has proven highly effective with enemy agents of Islam.
We need to put a financial hurt on all the main stream media outlets which are in cahoots with this attack upon our country and our constitution and our liberty.We need to vote out ALL Republican and Democrat party scoundrels who have utterly failed to keep their oath to defend the Constitution.Administrators at Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School need to be tar’d and feathered for their complicity in the most sinister crime in American history. When Obama’s college records including those financial records which indicate the Islamist financing of his education are made public and it is clear that administrators at those institutions of higher learning have all along been aware that MR. OBAMA is now and always was constitutionally ineligible to be president, they must be made to pay and pay dearly for the crime of treason. Lest I forget, Governor Abercrombie of Hawaii should be sentenced to hang for his part in the crime.Obama should be tried by a military tribunal for having also criminally usurped the military rank of commander-in-chief.
No more wicked assault upon the office and honor of the office of the president of the United States of America has taken place since President Lincoln was shot.
So secession is not the answer and abrogation is?
Well according to your post we clearly see where trying to abrogate anything will get you. NOWHERE! People have been petitioning government for decades to lawfully conduct law and follow the US Constitution, and where has it got you? I keep repeating that NOTHING, and I mean absolutely nothing has improved concerning government in my lifetime. Nor has anything improved in government since the late 1800s. It’s always been a steady downward spiral towards socialism, class warfare, the nanny state, corruption and money, and mostly power. As has been pointed out elese where, education will not and has not worked. Congress has been petitioned before and it has not worked. Look at what happened during the Clinton administration, the things Clinton done and got away with. Now Obama practically admits he does these things and people still votes for him. (Not that Romney is any better or worse.) The worst part is the sentiments and morals of society have broken down to the point that the Marxists now has power of control over the national elections and this will NEVER change! You will see at least 3 liberal Marxists SC judges appointed this time also. Where does that leave you with your abrogations? No my friend, secession is the ONLY choice you do have and the sooner the better and easier. I can easily name you at least a dozen instant benefits from secession and for breaking up the union into smaller countries and nation states. And I can think of NO positive reasons to keep this unholy union any longer. It should have been dissolved 160 years ago, but then as now, the liberals NEEDS workers to pay their taxes so those liberals can live and mooch off the public largess that the working man is forced to pay for them. They won’t let us go because, as Lincoln said, “Who would pay for the government?” This does not benefit the working man at ALL!
Just got this from the “Confederate Society of America”.
It’s more on the 14th Amendment, oddly timed for my delivery as we were discussing the issue here!
WHAT doesn’t make sense below?
We are a Conquered Country. As such, we are viewed by the Conqueror as NOT HAVING ANY RIGHTS AS IN NEVER HAVING ANY RIGHTS.
Have NOT ALL that I have said made ANY sense?
They Invaded, over-ran us and INSTITUTED THEIR LAWS THAT MADE OF US & OURS NO MORE.
Look at the MANY Countries throughout World History this was DONE TO.
As a Result, they DISAPPEARED- as in, like- Never Existing!
DOES NOT THE CONCEPT OF INVASION & SUBSEQUENT RULE REGISTER?
WHAT IS SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?
READ WHAT THE 14TH AMENDMENT ALLOWED THEM TO DO- IT GAVE THEM LEGAL LICENSE & PROVINCE NOT ONLY OVER US, BUT TRANSFERRED THE DISPOSITION OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC & THE FORMER UNITED STATES over to a Central Body whose Governance would NO LONGER BE DERIVED FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED BUT, FROM THE BODY OF THE GOVERNMENT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE TAIL WOULD NOW WAG THE DOG RATHER THAN THE BODY (US) WAGGING OUR OWN TAIL AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED.
TWO COUNTRIES GOT SCREWED- DOG GONE IT- READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS !
Don’t you understand what the War Between the States ( TWO COUNTRIES WAS ALL ABOUT )?- THE IDEOLOGUES UNDER LINCOLN WANTED TOTAL CONTROL- A CENTRAL GOVERNMENT WOULD GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THEY WANTED. HELL MAN, WE WERE IN THE WAY- DON’T Y’ALL GET IT?
TODAY IS MERELY THE EXTENSION OF WHAT WAS CREATED IN 1865. THAT’S WHY I ALWAYS DECLARE THAT ALL ROADS LEAD TO 1865. IT WAS THE OFFICIAL BEGINNING OF THE END FOR TWO COUNTRIES.
TWO PEOPLES GOT SCREWED AND WHATS WORSE, MOST CAN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS TO THIS VERY DAY.
HELL, IF THEY DID, DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD HAVE EVER BEEN AN OBAMA?
THEY OWN HIM- LOCK, STOCK AND PROVERBIAL BARRELL JUST LIKE THEY OWN THIS COUNTRY.
THE 14 TH AMENDMENT WAS THE POLITICAL RECONSTRUCTION NOT ONLY OF THE CONFEDERATE REPUBLIC, BUT THE FORMER AMERICAN REPUBLIC AS WELL!
What More Can I Possibly Say?
Respectfully, Craig Maus
President, The Confederate Society of America
Another very well written piece concerning secession.
From the Missouri 10th.
Secession petitions: A Call to Action!
To those of you who have signed petitions to the White House, congratulations. We’ve accomplished a great thing by elevating the themes of limited government, state sovereignty, secession, nullification, and community liberty back into the public discourse. But now the hard work begins, and we need you to continue with your pledge to support our cause for independence.
Please get out and talk to your friends, family members, and local media about why you’re supporting state sovereignty. Write letters to your State Senators, Legislators, and the Governor. Get out with like- minded people, and wave state flags and/or hold up signs along the streets or in front of your local and state court-houses. The more others hear from people who can discuss why secession and limited government is a fundamental right for our communities today (the same as it was when the 13 colonies seceded from Britain’s tyranny), the more your local community will rise up in support!
But be ready. It’s unlikely that your state leadership (much less the Federal President) will support this movement, as they’ve become deeply entrenched through years of Party rhetoric, corporate interests, and the lunatic ravings of the Progressive Agenda (on both sides of the Democrat and Republican fence). However, we must remember that Government is instituted by and for the people. We give leaders in our communities the ability to promote truth and justice, and if they abuse or misuse this power – it’s our duty and responsibility to take this power from them, and delegate to those who can administer with God-given wisdom.
In the coming weeks, please remember this: secession, state sovereignty, and nullification is our only recourse for promoting liberty and freedom from Big Government tyranny. The Federal Government will never shrink itself, nor regulate itself. And because we’ve long understood that our states have been in the grip of this manipulative Federal Government – we only seek to separate from this brutal regime that promotes war, godless humanism, killing of unborn children, perversion, excessive taxation, a King-like power in the Executive Branch, unjust Supreme Court rulings, and interference in nearly every aspect of our personal lives. We are not separating from other like-minded communities, or the many decent hard-working people who make up them. We only wish de-centralization, survival, and the ability to be governed on the local level – with folks who share our values and promote our community.
“We should remember the character which the Scripture requires in Rulers, that they should be men hating covetousness.” – Ben Franklin (The Constitutional Convention debates and the Anti-Federalist papers, Qualifications of Suffrage, August 7,10)
“…there is to be a great and mighty President, with very extensive powers; the powers of a King: He is to be supported in extravagant magnificence: So that the whole of our property may be taken by the American Government, by laying what taxes they please, giving themselves what salaries they please, and suspending our laws at their pleasure…” – Patrick Henry (June 7, 1788)
For more Information, please see:
The 1787 Constitutional Debates: Federal vs. Anti-Federal
Thomas Jefferson: Wisdom for a Troubled Nation
American Slavery: 150 years of Constitutional Rejection
True Liberty: How to be a Believer in Christ
Another update from Craig Maus from the Confederate Society of America
Think those petitions are gonna do any good after they ratify this treaty? All they have to do is pacify you for a short while longer…. Then no amount of petitions or anything can stop them! So you better back up your petitions with some GUTS! Else you’re be their slaves forever!
btw– Us confederates have been getting news articles like this for years, like the ones I’ve posted lately. Much different than the propaganda you read from your government run news media isn’t it?
SECESSION, NOW or NEVER! FREEMEN or SLAVE, NOW or NEVER!
CIVIL WAR IS COMING.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.
The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush’s administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.
On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States . The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and
promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. It will never happen!
The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to
international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the
public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty
that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.
This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.
Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. Straight into socialism if Obama has his way…
We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
DON’T KEEP THIS – SEND IT OUT TO YOUR LIST
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Was reading the NC State Constitution and it clearly States that secession from the Union is strictly prohibited.
Sec. 4. Secession prohibited.
This State shall ever remain a member of the American Union; the people thereof are part of the American nation; there is no right on the part of this State to secede; and all attempts, from whatever source or upon whatever pretext, to dissolve this Union or to sever this Nation, shall be resisted with the whole power of the State.
“Was reading the NC State Constitution and it clearly States that secession from the Union is strictly prohibited.”
That is true, what it says.
However may I remind ya’ll of a few things.
1-This article concerning secession was ADDED under duress right after Lincoln’s War. It was forced upon the Southern States that seceded through “Reconstruction”.
2-The 14th Amendment was also forced on the Southern States, that they vote to approve it in order their Confederate soldiers and politicians be allowed citizenship with the right to vote again, as well as preparing for the future withdrawl of Yankee troops. (The 14th A gives the absolute authority of the states to federal government. This INCLUDES secession petitions and the rights thereof.)
3-Just because something is in a state Constitution does not mean it can’t be reversed. All it takes is a vote.
4-What irony; the states of Texas, Virgina, New York and Rhode Island originally had the right of secession included in their State Constitutions. It was included at the time of their acceptance into the union. This begs the question; Why weren’t those State included rights int heir constitutions acknowledged or questioned by the federal government at the time of their statehood? We see that what is in the State Constitutions means NOTHING when compared to the tyrannical dictates of the federal government!
5-Consider the Declaration of Independence. It stated the rights of the people and their respective states in seceding from Great Britain. Under British Law secession wasn’t legal, but it still happened and the statements prove the written intent.
6-The rights of secession comes from “Natural Law”, which is also, “The Law’s of Nature and of Nature’s God”. This was covered by many philosophers but John Locke was the last to fully define it to its’ logical conclusions. Matter of fact the DoI is based upon the writings of John Locke, his philosophy. Also note that “Free Agency, Self-Determination, Sovereignty are all parts of Natural Law, which also means that no man made can over-ride them. We see the results of man trying to accomplish when WARS breaks out concerning people trying to peacefully exercise their Natural Rights when another side, usually the one in power opposes them. In other words, WAR is a NATURAL consequence of MAN’S disobedience to God and Nature and the Rights granted man by both!
7-ALL Federal Law applying to the South since 1865 is NULL and VOID! It could also be considered NULL and Void in the North IF they chuse to once again follow the US Constitution as originally intended. This also means that secession would be an accepted Natural Right recognized by ALL parts of the government.
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