One member of Congress suggests it actually is the U.S. State Department that sets the eligibility requirements for presidents, not the Constitution, and another says anyone with concerns about the heated dispute should go to court, where not a single judge has been willing to hear arguments on the merits.
The comments are just the latest is a series of statements on which WND has reported coming from members of Congress, who have been advised by their Congressional Research Service on how to dismiss such concerns.
WND reported how Jerry W. Mansfield, an information research specialist in the Knowledge Services Group of the CRS, issued a memo to prepare members of Congress to rebut and defuse questions constituents were asking regarding Obama’s presidential eligibility under the natural-born citizen requirement of the Constitution.
WND has posted the CRS memo on Scribd.com for download.
Attached to the memo was an attack piece published by FactCheck.org to dismiss claims that Obama’s short-form Certification of Live Birth, originally published during the 2008 presidential campaign by DailyKos.com, was a forgery.
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The issue at this point is really mute. Why? Because if ether he or someone under him has created a forged document intended to prove his birth and he presents it as a legitimate copy of an original which (possibly), does not exist in the manner which the fraud was presented, then he can be impeached and that's that.
GMAC..while it's true that the fake birth certificate is a phony, and a FELONY perpetrated by Obozo, our Liar in Chief, and he's committed multiple FELONIES in office, he cannot be impeached…Congress will not allow it…The Dept. of (in)Justice will not allow it. Obozo has 80% destroyed this country, he don't need another 4 years to finish the job…he has 2 more regardless!!!
Look what he's already done in 2 years!
I don't have any idea who this member of Congress might be, but he or she is full of crap. There was an accepted meaning for the term "natural born" anything at the time the Constitution was drafted. The meaning of the phrase involves what was then called sanguinity, which means in or by or from the blood. Specifically in the English language, which some of us still speak, it infers something derived from / handed down from the father. Our society has extended that to include the definition of derived from both parents, not either one, but BOTH parents. In other words, if both parents are US citizens then the child is a natural born citizen. The Constitution is not required to explain every word and phrase it contains. The phrase was and continues to be in common usage. Your motives and devious words are NOT appreciated by the citizens of this country. This mysterious member of Congress should just keep his / her mouth shut when they are effectively lying to the public. Congress is complicit in this illegal occupation of the White House, maybe the mysterious Congress person as well, and it MUST cease. The piper will be paid.
Check out the website Http://canadafreepress.com to read the situation as they see it. The articles are about America's President and the natural born citizen issue. It seems as the media in other countries are writing about the problem, but our media people are strangely quiet. Where are the US Senators and House members , who are deaf, dumb and apparently blind when any mention of the forged birth certificate arises. Are they afraid to tackle the problem for fear that they will lose their seats, if they out a fraud? It sure seems that way. America needs someone in authority with guts enough to bring this out in the open. We can't go four more years of the havoc, he has done to our country.
"One member of Congress suggests it actually is the U.S. State Department that sets the eligibility requirements for presidents, not the Constitution"
Let's put a name to this insult. We have to know the names of our enemies so we can vote them out from representing us.
They will try to rig the 2012 elections. The answer is simple, paper trail voting.
http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_…
Populex
By Press Release
December 16, 2004
Electronic/Paper-Ballot Hybrid Provides Unique Approach to Meet New Federal Requirements
CHICAGO, Dec. 16 2004/PRNewswire/ — The federal Election Assistance
Commission (EAC) and National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) have approved a new, innovative voting machine that is the first electronic system to meet new federal standards by combining the advantages, flexibility and simplicity of computer-based touch screen voting with the assurances provided by a tangible paper ballot. By using the best of both approaches, the Populex system is designed to restore voter confidence that their votes will be counted accurately.
"We are excited to have a voting solution that is affordable, practical and gives voters full confidence that their votes will be counted and, if necessary, re-counted correctly," said Sanford Morganstein, president of Populex. "Comparing the Populex voting system to the machines used in the 2004 election is like comparing a Lexus to an Edsel."
Unlike most other touch screen systems that risk losing votes, the Populex
system doesn't collect and store votes electronically in the voting computer.
INSTEAD, POPULEX PRINTS AN OFFICIAL BALLOT, EQUIPPED WITH A BAR CODE THAT IS SCANNED TO RELIABLY RECORD AND COUNT THE VOTES. THIS PAPER BALLOT IS THE OFFICIAL BALLOT THAT'S COUNTED ON ELECTION DAY AND ALSO THE AUDIT TRAIL NEEDED FOR RECOUNTS. ADDITIONALLY, POPULEX'S TECHNOLOGY HELPS PREVENT VOTERS FROM MAKING ERRORS AND PROVIDES SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO VERIFY THEIR SELECTIONS.
"IF THE POPULEX VOTING SYSTEM WAS USED DURING THE 2004 ELECTION IN FLORIDA AND OHIO, THE RESULTING CONSPIRACY THEORIES WOULD NOT EXIST," SAID MORGANSTEIN. "AFTER VOTING ON THE POPULEX SYSTEM, EACH VOTER CAN LEAVE THE POLLS WITH THE CONFIDENCE THAT HIS OR HER VOTES HAVE BEEN ACCURATELY RECORDED AND WILL BE ACCURATELY COUNTED."
"if the populex voting system was used during the 2004 election in florida and ohio, the resulting conspiracy theories would not exist," said morganstein. "after voting on the populex system, each voter can leave the polls with the confidence that his or her votes have been accurately recorded and will be accurately counted."
Let the idiot parse his words(then vote him out of office) because the words in the Constitution are clear enough for all to read….
Yep, Ellen,
As GMAC says and I've pointed out, it really doesn't matter whether he is indeed a citizen or not
anymore at this point.
I as a plain ol whitey, forge a document, whether the info on it is correct or not, I ride the bus
to the Big House in Canon City or Florence.
They do get some perks at fed in Florence that the folks in Canon don't get, barry should enjoy
Where is one congressman that is a patriot that has the courage to stand up and demand this president is not eligible to represent our country and to have this officially investigated so that he may be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for fraud and treason and removed as well as all his forced legislation! Then all his moneys should be confiscated, along with anyone who is responsible for mis use of tax payers funds in the bogus stimulus, the robbery of our social security funds from its locked box and the myriad of other shananigan's that anyone in either party are responsible for, ( but mostly demoncrats)! They all need to be prosecuted, have their pensions removed and their bank accounts and assets seized to repay at least some of the damages they have done to this country! They are given an honorable position to represent all American's and they have failed miserably!
I wish people would quit using FactCheck and Snopes. They are both left-leaning and if the facts don't fit, they make them up!
The Constitution and the Constitutional Convention have defined natural born citizen as born in the U.S. or having BOTH parents who are U.S. citizens.
Since Obama, Sr. was a British citizen, that makes Barack Obama NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE POTUS!
The naked truth is this: The Congress of the United States is by and large, a group of political hacks and yellow bellied cowards. Granted, there are a few…very, very, few, that have the qualities of courage and principle, but the majority and particularly, those in power, are spineless scum who won't do anything that might spotlight them to any portion of their constituency and thereby possibly cause them to lose the gravy train ride which they so enjoy. Short of abolishing congress, Obama can get away with anything! On second thought, they probably wouldn't say anything about that either…if the checks kept coming! Get rid of every one of the ba$tard$ and put some principles patriots in office. Join GOOOH.com!
THERE IS NO NEED TO GO TO COURT PUT HIS SS# THROUGH E-VERIFY AND HE WILL BE DISQUALIFIED INSTANTLY
Sure, Jim. If only everyone else had seen how easy it would be.
James if it will work then i am all for it!
His CT ss# would pass with no problem. Only he should've claimed his name was Paul Ludwig.
Seriously..our elected officials are referring their constituents to Snopes and Factcheck.org (funded by the Annenberg Public policy Center) as the ultimate arbiter to decide the legitimacy of our POTUS???? These people are idiots…and we wonder why our country is in a mess!!!
This and some previous administrations are trying to and succeeding at rewriting the law and history of this country and it's heritage. This is not a new concept, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Musolinni, Gobel and Hitler, a couple of Popes and Caesars, have all done this to further their ambitions and agendas in the past, and quite successfully mind you. Won't be long till all the older school books are burned and new ones issued to control the minds of the youth of America – just like in China, Russia, Old Germany, Vietnam, North Korea, and others. It only takes eighteen years to grow a voting citizen, that is if we still have a vote. The fight for America is on now!
How many of you have written your Congress Person ? I have w/no answer at all but I write her at every opportunity . This has no party difference as both will not prosecute ! Now if we had that million man march on DC with only this as our message and stay there until they tire or arrest us then maybe something would be done . Otherwise forget it !
Senator Jeff Sessions is full of sh*t as are all the other politicians who say that Obozo was properly vetted and is eligible to be president. Even one of my own Senators from Arizona stood up for this evil, blood sucking communist and he even referenced Snopes.com as a legitimate source of fact checking. Everyone should know that Snopes.com is run by a liberal, progressive husband and wife. Kyl said the following and is also full of sh*t.
Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.: "Thank you for your recent e-mail. Senator Obama meets the constitutional requirements for presidential office. Rumors pertaining to his citizenship status have been circulating on the Internet, and this information has been debunked by Snopes.com, which investigates the truth behind Internet rumors."
Obama’s own attorney Virginia Hill has admitted the B.C. was a forgery (How could there be a copy…everyone claims the records are missing….a copy of what?),…WHY hasen’t the Republican Party impeached this liar>?…Everything he has done including Obama care should be NULL & VOID…
So who is the dummy Congresspuke who can't read and understand the plain language of Article II Section 1 Paragraph 5?
Apparently all 535 of them, according to birthers.
James you left yourself out of that number!
And James, like millions of others who think they know so much about their congress, continue to show their ignorance. There are 540 elected representatives in Washington – 435 Representatives, 100 Senators AND 5 delegates who are also elected to represent their constituents in Washington. Granted, the delegates do not have all of the rights of the other 535 Members of Congress but they are elected officials nevertheless.
A fair point. I was counting the voting members, who actually could vote for impeachment or removal, as many folks commonly do. Feel better?
THIS IS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WE HAVE IN OFFICE AND ARE VOTED IN BY HIS VOTING CONSTITUTENS. THEY ALONG WITH THIS JERK SHOULD GO BACK TO A HISTORY CLASS AND JUST ANOTHER WHY ILLEGALS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM TO BE GIVE AMNENSTY. IF I WAS A CONGRESSMEN I WOULD CHASIZED THIS JERK FOR MAKING SUCH A STATEMENT. PIE HOLES LIKE THIS WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO DO AWAY ALONG WITH OBAMA AND ERIC HOLDER THE CONSTITUTION. I HOPE AMERICANS COMES ELECTION DAY VOTE LIKE THEIR LIFE AND THE CHILDEN LIFE AND GRAND CHILDREN LIVES DEPEND ON IT.