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Holy crap what with those raccoon eyes.
We have an Obama sheep here.
You can watch video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWW5BzOtk9c
Thanks for the link Roger!
thank you. I just watched it from this site.
Yes We do…Maybe if the Dolt worked HALF as hard as this Woman THEY’D have raccoon eyes also…..but Obama Sheep don’t have to work….not even a 1/4 as hard….or even at all…The video was removed because someone is afraid of the TRUTH….
wHAT? WITH THAT CHILIDOG UP YOUR AX?????
Here’s an American citizen fighting for the rights of all of us, and we have simple minded people discussing her make-up. No wonder America is allowing buffoons, morons, and impostor to run the country.
You got it!
Obama is not “an imposter.” He really was born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties and the Index Data and the birth notices and the teacher who wrote home all show. And he really is a Natural Born US citizen because the US Supreme Court ruled in the Wong Kim Ark case that every child born in the USA is a Natural Born US citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats. (And neither of Obama’s parents were foreign diplomats.)
we the people,who are the real government.1st ovomit ignored a georgia supreme court subpoena{treason}2nd ovomit has a social security card that belongs to a dead 119 yr old connecticut person{treason/fraud/felony}and he can,t be verified.3rd ovomit has a wh live birth form on the internet,which is a computor generated{layered forgery{fraud/felony/treason}4th ovomit sent additonal throops to afganistan without congress approval{treason}5th ovomit lied along with rice/hillary/ for weeks stating the bengazi attack,was because of a video,thatas a lie,it was a terrorist attack,with 4 dead americans,and no help was sent{treason/fraud/felony}and ovomit with ag holdup would,nt arrest the 2 black panties,who stood in frt of a philly voting poll,and intimidated voters,and one of them had a baton in his hand,thats racial hate crimes,racial injustice{felony/treason}6th ovomits father was born in kenyan,making the ineligible treasonous traitor ovomit,ineligible to be in office{treason against we the people,and the constitituion}
Here are a few more acts of treason you can add.
1. Perpetrating acts of fraud, perjury and conspiracy in his refusal to confirm his lawful eligibility to serve as president under the U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 1, constituting impeachable offenses of high crimes and misdemeanors adumbrated in U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 4;
2. Surrendering sovereign U.S. war-making to foreign powers and international authorities by attacking Libya without consulting Congress, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article 1, Section 8Â and U.S. Code Title 50, Chapter 33:1541-1548;
3. Accepting foreign title and office while acting as U.S. President and without consulting Congress when in 2009, Obama assumed the Chairmanship of the UN Security Council, the international body responsible for declaring war on behalf of the UN, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article I, Section 9;
4. Making bribery attempts in word and in deed, as Obama administration offered bribes to at least three Federal candidates for office: Joe Sestak, Andrew Romanoff and Jim Matheson, in violation of U.S. Code Title 18, Section 201;
5. Defying a Federal Court Order by refusing to halt the unconstitutional implementation of the “Patient Healthcare and Affordable Care Act of 2010, popularly known as “ObamaCare,” in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3, and Article III, Sections 1 & 2;
6. Defying a Federal Court Order by refusing to grant lawful deep water drilling permits, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3, and Article III, Sections1 & 2;
7. Executive Branch creation and implementation of regulations asserting unconstitutional force of Federal law on matters explicitly rejected by or contrary to the will and intent of Congress, specifically the EPA implementation of Cap and Trade, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article I, Section 1 and Section 8;
8. Refusing to secure our broken borders from illegal alien invasion, international criminal incursion, and terrorist cadre penetration, in violation of U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section 3 and Article IV, Section 4;
9. Executive Branch malfeasance and impeding the administration of justice by preventing the U.S.
Department of Justice from investigating crimes committed for the direct benefit of the President by presidential associates including: voter intimidation at the hands of the New Black Panthers and ACORN election fraud, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3, and U.S. Criminal Code Section 135, (Comp. St. § 10305);
10. Direct mobilizing and funding of mob violence, sedition and insurrection,as witnessed in Wisconsin, by the President’s own reelection campaign group Organizing for America, and including open statements of incitement to the insurrection by the President himself, in violation of U.S.Penal Code, Chapter 115, Section 2383;
11. Executive Branch usurpation of lawmaking powers voiding duly enacted legislation of Congress by improperly preventing the U.S. Department of Justice from defending established Federal law – specifically the Defense of Marriage Act, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3;
12. Adhering to the enemies of the United States, giving them aid and comfort, as witnessed by consorting with, supporting and installing to powerful Federal positions persons who in writing, word and deed have called for and promoted the overthrow of America’s constitutionally guaranteed Republican form of government, and the overthrow of the United States Constitution; including but not limited to William Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn, Cass Sunstein, John Holdren, Dalia Mogahed, Harold Koh, and Eric Holder, in violation of U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section IV and U.S. Penal Code, Section 2385.
will you please leave !!!! I have no idea why you are here bugging us !! You are full of much more than pig sty, just get lost !
I had asked Sheriff Joe’s; people months ago t check for a criminal investigative fie from 1961 in Hawaii on t a stolen pad of blank state birth certificates and if that wasn’t the case that led to the feds persuading Hawaii to tighten up the laws and security on filing of births. He was born in Toepka Ks at Forbes air force base hospital as my mother was present and i saw him as a newborn soon after birth.The announcement was in the Toepka Capital Journal and when i called last years, the new owners would not let her reporters check their archives or do nothing, which is a real proof of a cover up as any reported that g the info and used it would surely ‘make ther career’, but in this day when the international cabal controls the news. guess not would be a career breaker to publish the truth. This is what I;ve run into, I thought when i finally went public myself on my own sites of y my eye witness accounts, that before the election the issue eligibility would have been past and focus on character and politics. Didn’t happen. Should have in 8/12 and the judge is still waiting in tOpeka Ks for a request for a court order for his Toepka records. I posted on 9/14/12 my affidavit with Sec of Ste of Ks Kris Kobach and also the summary of what I gleaned as the staff checked for the reordds with a response of “WE don’t think he knows.” Of course, I could not get a copy of the records but one of the staff promised she would go to the library and look o up the birth , marriage and death records in the archives of the Toepka PAPER> she never got back to me. If she had not found anything, why wouldn’t she call? someone stopped her?. Sec of Kris Kobach a conservative republican, supposedly opposed to Pres Obama;s policies, covers up for hem? Why? This is bigger than a birth certificate!! Three unsolved murders and no justice for the real Dad of the president either? Who is everyone afraid of? Linda Joy Adams.
Obama’s presented “Birth Certificate” has already been proven, beyond a doubt, to be a fake. Same situation with his fake Social Security number. There is so much circumstantial evidence showing that Barack Obama wasn’t born in this country that had he been anybodly else, a Grand Jury would already have him being prosecuted for pulling off the greatest fraud in the history of this country! Here is what I think is in the Hawaii Department of Health Records: In Hawaii, (where I was born) even before the US made it a Territory of the US, a person can be issued a Hawaii Birth Certificate showing birth in Hawaii even though the birth took place elsewhere. All the parent has to do is to prove residence in Hawaii for the year prior to birth. The actual birth can have taken place anywhere else, and in any country. I believe that the hidden record is one where the parent applied for such an issued birth certificate. That can be the only reason Obama has spent a reported 2 million dollars paying numerous legal teams to put up legal roadblocks to anyone looking into his background. It makes no sense to spend that kind of money instead of simply allowing investigators to the Health Department Records.
Obama’s birth certificate is not fake. Only birther “experts” have called it fake, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
Re; ” There is so much circumstantial evidence showing that Barack Obama wasn’t born in this country….”
IF you really believe that, then you should be able to answer the following questions:
First, what do you think the real chances are that Obamas’ relatives were rich enough (They weren’t. Obama’s American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank in 1961) AND at the same time stupid enough to send their pregnant daughter alone (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) at enormous expense and high risk of stillbirth (and of Yellow Fever in Kenya) to a foreign country—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Hawaii????
Then, when you answer that: Please answer this second question: What is the chance of both ALL the things above happening (meaning Obama’s mother having traveled abroad and given birth abroad) AND also (2) she was able to get Obama back from the foreign country without him being entered on her passport or without a foreign visa. You know, don’t you, that we do not—and have not for decades upon decades—allowed a child to be carried into the USA without some kind of papers saying that he is a US citizen or that he is authorized to enter.
So IF Obama were born in Kenya (which BTW the Kenyan government says did not happen), he would have to be entered on his mother’s US passport or receive a US visa IN Kenya, in the US consulate in Nairobe, and the application for that document would still be on file. IF such a document really did exist, it would have been found by the Bush Administration during the eight years they were in office and would have been used by them in the 2008 election—but they didn’t do so.
Moreover, not only both (1) and (2) would have had to have happened (Obama’s parents having enough money and being nutty enough to make their daughter run the risk of a foreign trip while she was pregnant and Obama came back from a foreign country without being entered on his mother’s passport or a visa), but ALSO (3) There was a birth certificate issued for Obama in Hawaii in 1961 (as the birth notices sent by the DOH show) and that birth certificate says that Obama was born in Kapilolani Hospital, as it shows and as the officials in Hawaii confirm (and as Kapiolani is now confirming too).
What are the odds of all three of them happening?
And, by the way, in addition to the birth certificate from Hawaii, and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii, and the Index Data, there is also a teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after hearing of the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley. And, BTW, Kapiolani Hospital also these days has been confirming that Obama was indeed born there.
Re: “even before the US made it a Territory of the US, a person can be issued a Hawaii Birth Certificate showing birth in Hawaii even though the birth took place elsewhere.”
Answer: Hawaii has NEVER allowed a Hawaiian birth certificate to be issued showing a Hawaiian place of birth on it, such as Honolulu (which Obama’s short form birth certificate shows) or birth in a Hawaiian hospital, such as Kapolani (which Obama’s long form birth certificate shows) unless there is proof that the child really was born in the place and in that hospital. And, as noted above, not only does Obama’s birth certificate show those facts, but they are confirmed by the officials of both parties in Hawaii, and by the teacher who wrote home. And it is still nutty to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough or stupid enough to send Obama’s mother on an expensive and highly risky trip abroad—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Re Obama’s Social Security number. Answer; Birther sites have not told you that millions of people, millions, have errors in their Social Security numbers and/or multiple SS numbers in their files and that this is caused MAINLY by data entry errors by SS Administration clerks.
well ellen
I am not a “birther expert” but I am an adobe suite expert, and a pdf will not form layers, it is an embedded document, the embed may have layers but it was not formed from the pdf, if the document was a scan, then it would have been 1 deminsional because of it just being a photo image, but since it was edited, it would have more than one layer again, not from a pdf. as for the “short form” it has also been discredited. Roland Pollard PhD made the document himself http://www.wnd.com/2011/08/331525/
also why are all travel records to hawaii missing from august 5th 196 to august 8th 1961?
then we have the ss card. it has a prefix of 045, a conneticutt number, you never explained that one, the social security dept may get names wrong or assign a number wrong in a general area but not in a whole different area and the only way a person will have multiple numbers is if they had applied for multiple cards. and btw, who is harrison j bournell?
Re: “a pdf will not form layers.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
Re: “as for the short form it has also been discredited.” Answer: So you are saying that three Republican officials including the former Republican governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin’s) are all lying when they said that they sent the short form to Obama and that a copy of Obama’s birth certificate is in the files and that the copy in the files shows that Obama was born in Honolulu Hawaii? And the public Index Data file also shows that a birth certificate was issue for Obama in 1961, and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 also show that a birth certificate was issued for Obama in 1961 (and in 1961 Hawaii could not issue a BC to children who were not born in Hawaii). So you are claiming that they are ALL lying??? And you are doing so based on what Pollard, whose PhD is in educational systems and not in software, much less in forensic document analysis, says.
In fact, as Dr Conspiracy has pointed out, not one of the birther “experts” have:
Testified in court as an expert in document fraud or document forensics.
Been accredited by any of the national professional associations for document examiners.
Taught document fraud detection and forensics at a recognized institution of higher learning.
Or, earned their living regularly providing document fraud detection services.
(http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/06/wheres-the-expert-certificate/0
and some of the birther experts are nuts, like Doug Vogt, who claims to have found the original Altar of Abraham, and some are so eager to attack Obama that they claim that he did not attend Columbia College, despite Columbia University saying that he did attend, and graduate, like Paul Irey.
The fact remains that UNLESS the three Republican officials and the Index Data were all lying, a Hawaii birth certificate was issued to Obama in 1961. And the fact remains that Hawaii was not allowed to issue a birth certificate to someone who was born outside of Hawaii in 1961. And the fact remains that the Republican officials say that they sent a short-form bc to Obama. And, for that to have happened, a clerk must have looked into the file and filled out the form from the document in the files, which must have said that Obama was born in Honolulu because that is what the clerk filled in. Only if Obama’s BC was forged and put into the files could that have happened without three Republican officials and the clerk lying.
Re: “then we have the ss card. it has a prefix of 045, a conneticutt number.”
There are two possible explanations. One is that it is a mere typo, generated by a clerk who hit a single digit wrong in entering the Honolulu zip code, which generated the SS number. Another is that Obama applied for his SS number when he was in Indonesia, with the SS headquarters in Washington, and they picked CT at random or because of some system that they had. In any case, the SS number has nothing to do with Natural Born Citizen status. If you can prove that Obama obtained his CT SS number or any one of them fraudulently, you might be able to get a Congressman to investigate—but not a law enforcement authority because obviously the statute of limitations expired long ago. But so far birthers have not even got Congressmen interested because there have been MILLIONS of errors in the SS files, and there is no proof that this was caused by anything but an error.
Your point about multiple numbers only being if you applied multiple times is truly nutty. I found that I had three numbers in my file, and I applied only once.
BTW Harrison j. Bounel apparently lived at the same site as Obama’s home in Chicago. Birthers have CLAIMED that his SS number and Obama’s SS number were the same, but since they found Bounel after Obama’s SS number was published, they may simply be claiming that his number and Obama’s were the same. They certainly have not shown any proof that Obama’s SS number and Bounel’s were the same.
The bottom line remains that it is still nutty to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (they weren’t. Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother was a low level employee in a bank, and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or stupid enough to send Obama’s mother when she was late in her first pregnancy and there was a high rate of stillbirths at enormous expense to a foreign country (and Kenya, for one, has said that Obama certainly was not born there)——when there were fine hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
The obvious answer is “no.”
Anyone can look at Obama’s long form BC and see it has been doctored. When I see two different fonts typed by two different machines in more than one word I do not need an expert to tell me anything. Anyone who says Obama’s long form BC is not a fake and has not been altered is flat out lying. I do not care who they are what there status is. Forget about the experts. See for yourself the discrepancies and the proof it was altered. Be sure to watch this video to see how a document can be altered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY
Check out who Daniel Wayne Pope really is! Who;s he? President Obama’s maternal grandfather. who stole Stanley Dunham’s wallet to go to wwII when too young and all this got verified by the Ks authorities wen they were searching for paternal relatives to take guardianship of Stanley Ann after they had pulled her as a 15 year old pregnant girl form the Kansas River bank int he middle of winter trying to find the body, hopefully still alive after the racial attack on both of them and no one would believe her either that thee bodies had gone under he water until months later when the bodies washed up on a sand bar, A miracle , as many of the rumored disappeared in that river, never did Who’s Daniel Wayne Pope? The son of Millard Dell and Helen (Hardy) Poe and she was born Olga Romanov, daughter of Czar Nicholas II and Alexandria of Russia, and great granddaughter of Queen Victoria. and before that turns into disbelief, many descendants and plenty of DNA available among the descendants. . President Wislon got them out. This family has been experts at fake dicouemnts and hiding ID for a hundred years adn time to end this. Linda Joy Adams aka alexisdaghter
Re: “doctored.”
That is what birthers keep on saying, and they even say that you can see with your own eyes that it is “doctored.” But it is neither doctored nor can you see doctoring with your own eyes. All that there is are birthers who claim that is “doctored” giving their own claims about things being wrong with the BC such as the claim that there are multiple fonts (as if a scan of a document on SECURITY PAPER, which is designed to produce errors in the copies, you know, would not show anomalies. And as if PDF were a photographic reproduction and not an attempt to pick up letters and display them as fonts. And when the letters are faintly typed, what happens?). Yet birthers keep up their claims despite not being believed by even such conservative pundits as Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter or the National Review, or Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan.
in this situation, a birther has even claimed that five or six acknowledged experts are “lying” when they say that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged. But birther sites include such nuts as one who said that he found “the original altar of Abraham,” and such anti-Obama partisans as one who claimed that Obama did not attend Columbia College, despite Columbia University saying that he did indeed attend, and that he even graduated.
It is clear that birther claims about the birth certificate being forged are not motivated by the things that they really see. They are motivated by their hatred—and hence are not reliable.
It continues to be simply nutty to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
You have the wrong family history of his grandparents. You are mixing the one of Stanley Dunham with the grandfather Daniel Wayne Pope who stole the the ID of his to go to WWII, source, his mother. when my mother asked her how Dunham got on Ann;s papers. in fall of 1963 and the fake bio had been put in place which thought was just a ;cover story. You Are all following the presidents; ‘woven story.’ Its amazing how so many that don;t like the president and his policies have been so eager to follow a ‘woven’ story he made up form what he;d been told. Obviously never was after 1/71 when his maternal grandmother stopped me from saying anything. Ann was in Toepka ks and if any one cared enough for the truth I have given many places to check for the available records, No one seems to care enough abut truth any more. He;s always been eligible, If any one would bother to check out the real fmaily history of his paternal grandparents family, you would know they have been master of fake bios and assume d ds for almost a 100 years. since Pres Wilson got them out and they ended up in Haxtun , Colorado, Arranged marriage to Obama Sr when Ann was 7 moths pregnant by my Dad, birth at Forbes air force base hospital were in the newspaper in Toepka, Why won;t the current owners let any one check the archives? And then the articles when the body of his murdered Dad washed up on a sand bar later on. I know it was before 6/62/ The maim media has known this all along as They have access to the expensive search engines, I don;t have access to. as for the Ct ssn, its impossible not to have a thick investigative file on this At SSA, my employer anf there is noting mysterious about the Ct number, at the time one got the number for the office one applied. There many double checking all this at SSA, the system. Its just not credible , At SSA we have always had a list of suspect documents form known thefts of blank hospital records, to investigations of count official illegally selling them. And the worse is the cabbage patch dolls that will soon be showing up to get ther social security as hospitals used the real forms for those. If that hospital was on the ;watch list he was in terrible rouble trying to walk in and get a card. Terrible fear and trauma was involved and I was affected more Than I realized until i began sharing on my own sies. which I wish you would read. And all I had was the wrath of westboro teenagers turned on me at the music festival because I wouldn’t go along with ther racial hatred and then the sickening racist sermon Fred Phelps when the fmaily court judge? had basically given he threat to release hte gdnshp to my mother and we went to gt the papers on 4/4/61/ and I bolted form the church with some of the teenagers that had turned on me in the pews. a short time before. I didn’t need that at 15, and what I experienced was nothing lie what the Pres; parents went through because they wanted to be a couple of two races. Westboro has terrorized Toepka , too long. windiness remember but are scared of them and the open murder case. as my opinion in calling people last year. This is first and foremost an open murder case I think a head of Army black ops could well put a fake Hawii reocrd in place.. Linda Joy Adams
Do you have any links you can post to verify the history of Obama’s paternal grandparents family or the murders?
I do not have the money for the special search engine sites. There was a partial death certificate of the dad online, but it only gave pieces of it. I have some records of my parents that I need to get some help to into. I was there. There are records all over Toepka on this. and the ones I called last year remember and are scared to talk and its more fear of Westboro Baptists cult than the presidents birth. I found Daniel Wayne Pope in the 194o census with his parents in Holyoke Colorado. Its why I called the Toepka capital Journal and spoke to Phillip Anderson even given him the r name of the Dad. and he said later said hie editor Tamara Quinn would not permit any of ther reporters to check archives or anything, I called the archives and no response. I don;t live in Ks to go to the library and find this on microfilm tc. There is a search engine for all newspapers but it cost s a lot of money and I have medical Bill collectors all over me now as can’t even get Part B meicare ( all in my online psitngs in violaitons of ciivl rights) . all this is on my sites. All the places to look. It was in the paper. birth , marriage annoucments to Obama and then the articles on the death which s was sometime before 6/62 You have to understand All the main media had this and wouldn’t confront Obama with the truth, a bunch of enablers. So they must have accessed these expensive search engines and got the info. No one in KS cares enough to go check and even if they do it anonymously post it on line. I do;t care if they sell it to the National enquirer, I was literally trying to give a reporter what should have been a career making story and I didn’t even need to be mentioned. There is no reason to hide this except something much n0bigger than a birth certificate is going on. I’m going ttry d find some fmaily to hlep get into those reocrds and help me scan them in on line, I actually havint learned how to do that yet.. This is not MY story, its the truth for the world and I;m so disgusted at th emedai and those in authority in this world for hiding this and Ann should have told him, but maybe the trauma was too great, I don;t know. Westboro Baptist seems to have terrorized Toepka ks for 50+ years and maybe more than verbally. Linda joy Adams eye witness accounts starts 7/26/12 and in Daily Recaps since of the whole history and facts and details. and Ive tried to be careful as to what is eye witness and what if form another source, who from. Very few eye witnesses at all n the whole media on this of his whole life. Not easy going public as my fmaly and I spoke of it and Doyle knew also we;d get ridiculed, etc. as millions have been made off of lies. .
PRESS RELEASE — MUST READ!
DEPARTMENT OF THE INJUSTICE AT ITS FINEST — Attorney General Holder is going down.
Press release: Taitz talks to 4 congressmen and multiple members of the media during CPAC. Congressmen are stating that the Department of Justice, who supposedly acted on their behalf in Grinols case never forwarded to them any documents, they were clueless.
Posted on | March 14, 2013 | No Comments
Law Offices of Dr. Orly Taitz
29839 Santa Mrgarita, ste 100
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688
Dr. and Attorney Orly Taitz is currently a VIP attendee og CPAC convention. She personally talked to Member of the Judiciary Committee Congressman Loui Gohmert, Senator Jim Inhofe, Congressman Steven King and retired Senator and current president of the Heritage Foundation Jim Demint.
During the conversation with Congressman Gohmert Taitz was surrounded by multiple reporters, who took pictures and recorded on video tape the conversation. Taitz showed Gohmert Obama’s tax returns with CT SSN 042-68-4425 and SSNVS and E-verify, showing that Obama failed E-Verify and SSNVS, that he is using a stolen SSN. Taitz advised Gohmert that in January Department of Justice appeared before Judge England, stating that they represent the US Congress and on behalf of the US Congress they opposed the injunction of the certification of Obama’s electoral votes. I asked, if he as a US Congressman and member of the Judiciary committee indeed felt that it is proper for Obama to use the SSN that was not assigned to him, whether he indeed directed the US Department of Justice to represent him and oppose the injunction. Gohmert stated in front of all the reporters that he did no know anything about this and that the Department of Justice never gave him any papers.
Later reporters, who witnessed the conversation took more in depth interviews, among them reporters from US News and World Report, National Reviews and a reporter from Australian TV.
Senator Inhofe similarly did not know anything about it. The conversation took place in front of the talk show host Rusty Humphries . Taitz talked to Congressman Steven King. He said that if the Department of Justice were to give him any papers he would remember it.
He stated that his staff will review all the info and will prepare an executive report for him. He should have an answer in 1 week. LT. Zullo and talk show host Carl Gallops stood next to Taitz during this conversation and witnessed Taitz giving the documents to King.
As of now the picture is such that the Department of Justice went behind the backs of the U.S Congressmen and never gave them any pleadings or documents and did not act as an attorney for the US Congress, but rather as a private criminal defense attorney for Obama..
Currently Taitz has problems connecting to the control panel of her web site and asking the supporters to spread the word. If Department of Justice went behind the backs of the US Congress, this is a scandal much bigger than the Watergate.
Additionally Taitz did some 10 interviews for different stations and reporters. Those interviews should be on line shortly.
Currently it is 2 am in DC. Taitz flew red eye to CPAC , so there 2 days and nights without sleep. Taitz wll provide more information tomorrow
NO, the impostor in OUR White House is NOT ELIGIBLE. He, along with his “wife,” have spun their lies to suit their own agendas. They have both committed felonies. Anyone that believes his documents are authentic are as seriously mentally ill as are the occupiers in OUR White House. GOD is good. HIS timing is PERFECT.
Topeka Ks is in the USA! You believe Obama from several years ago who admitted he was ‘weaving as story” over eye witnesses? I had no idea 9 months later someone wouldn;t have also spoken out but , the Westboro Baptist connection as suapects. as directyl or indirectly causing the murder and attempted murder of the parents of the president. This is not an endorsement of any politics, Its time for justice and stop covering up the terrible atrocities that have been allowed to continue with the’ disappeare of Ks River and other places. Remember the main media had the Topeka Birth all along and just went along with what the president said. Why? Check wh’t;s out there in the media and online. Very few eye wtinesses to any part of his life. And those I called in Tpoeka Ks remember and do’;t want to talk. If you had to live in the same city as Westboro Baptist maeyb you would be afraid , too of crossing them. LInda Joy Adams. eye witnness (the legal kind)
My point was: It is irrelevant whether he was born in Kenya, Hawaii, or Kansas. Creating fraudulent documents such as birth certificates, Selective Service forms, is a felony, felons CANNOT be president.
You go girl! Even if Obama was born in the US he should be arrested, tried, found guilty by his peers and sentenced accordingly for his acts of treason.
1. Perpetrating acts of fraud, perjury and conspiracy in his refusal to confirm his lawful eligibility to serve as president under the U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 1, constituting impeachable offenses of high crimes and misdemeanors adumbrated in U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 4;
2. Surrendering sovereign U.S. war-making to foreign powers and international authorities by attacking Libya without consulting Congress, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article 1, Section 8Â and U.S. Code Title 50, Chapter 33:1541-1548;
3. Accepting foreign title and office while acting as U.S. President and without consulting Congress when in 2009, Obama assumed the Chairmanship of the UN Security Council, the international body responsible for declaring war on behalf of the UN, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article I, Section 9;
4. Making bribery attempts in word and in deed, as Obama administration offered bribes to at least three Federal candidates for office: Joe Sestak, Andrew Romanoff and Jim Matheson, in violation of U.S. Code Title 18, Section 201;
5. Defying a Federal Court Order by refusing to halt the unconstitutional implementation of the “Patient Healthcare and Affordable Care Act of 2010, popularly known as “ObamaCare,” in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3, and Article III, Sections 1 & 2;
6. Defying a Federal Court Order by refusing to grant lawful deep water drilling permits, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3, and Article III, Sections1 & 2;
7. Executive Branch creation and implementation of regulations asserting unconstitutional force of Federal law on matters explicitly rejected by or contrary to the will and intent of Congress, specifically the EPA implementation of Cap and Trade, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article I, Section 1 and Section 8;
8. Refusing to secure our broken borders from illegal alien invasion, international criminal incursion, and terrorist cadre penetration, in violation of U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section 3 and Article IV, Section 4;
9. Executive Branch malfeasance and impeding the administration of justice by preventing the U.S. Department of Justice from investigating crimes committed for the direct benefit of the President by presidential associates including: voter intimidation at the hands of the New Black Panthers and ACORN election fraud, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3, and U.S. Criminal Code Section 135, (Comp. St. § 10305);
10. Direct mobilizing and funding of mob violence, sedition and insurrection,as witnessed in Wisconsin, by the President’s own reelection campaign group Organizing for America, and including open statements of incitement to the insurrection by the President himself, in violation of U.S.Penal Code, Chapter 115, Section 2383;
11. Executive Branch usurpation of lawmaking powers voiding duly enacted legislation of Congress by improperly preventing the U.S. Department of Justice from defending established Federal law – specifically the Defense of Marriage Act, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3;
12. Adhering to the enemies of the United States, giving them aid and comfort, as witnessed by consorting with, supporting and installing to powerful Federal positions persons who in writing, word and deed have called for and promoted the overthrow of America’s constitutionally guaranteed Republican form of government, and the overthrow of the United States Constitution; including but not limited to William Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn, Cass Sunstein, John Holdren, Dalia Mogahed, Harold Koh, and Eric Holder, in violation of U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section IV and U.S. Penal Code, Section 2385.
Thanks, you cannot post this enough! Here’s something you’ll get a laugh at …
http://weknowmemes.com/2013/03/what-do-you-mean-that-wasnt-president-obama/
Obama’s birth certificate is not fake. Only birther “experts” have called it fake, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
It continues to be nutty to think that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (they weren’t. Obama’s American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank in 1961, and his father was only able to come to America on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their only daughter ALONE (since WND has proven that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) thousands of miles at huge expense to a foreign country at high risk of stillbirth (whose incidence was high in 1961)—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii. (And, btw, the Kenyan government has said that it investigated and, for sure, Obama was not born there.)
Re: “Creating fraudulent documents such as birth certificates, Selective Service forms, is a felony,’
Obama’s birth certificate is not forged, but you are right that his Selective Service form WAS forged. It was forged by the fellow who put it online. That fellow did not get the Selective Service form from Obama or his campaign. He simply claimed to have gotten it from the Selective Service Administration back during the Bush Administration. Well, unless Obama was able to forge it and slip it into the Selective Service files, the document in the SS files cannot have been forged. But the fellow who posted it could easily have forged it. In any case, neither Obama nor his campaign published it. So they didn’t forge it.
The records in Topeka Ks are real!
If a document has a word or words that has two different fonts typed by two different machines how is it accomplished???? This alone tells me a document has been tampered with. I do not need an expert to verify that fact.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/sheriff-joes-lead-investigator-no-proof-obama-was-in-hawaii-as-baby/
http://www.danielpipes.org/11952/obama-muslim-childhood
Bob, this is beautiful, Verna K. Lee’s credibility and knowledge is phenomenal. Have added this relatively short 2 1/2 pages to my already 20 page document
AFP (American Free Press) INTERVIEWS SHERIFF ARPAIO’S LEAD INVESTIGATOR
AUGUST 07, 2012 AFP
By Pete Papaherakles
Still not sure of bringing the whole CIA’s MK ULTRA and Cyborg theory into the picture. I really don’t want to belittle the evidence that would sink the Titanic with information that could be tossed aside as non-fact or hear-say.
A type document can in fact have different fonts. One clerk does part of it on one machine, and another does part of it on another. Or the PDF scan may simply have picked up the faint impression of some letters as one font and others as another.
Re Sheriff Joe. He deliberately misquoted Verna K. Lee.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indicting-the-sheriff-joe-and-the-cold-case-posse/
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/09/somebody-call-the-cops/
and his general credibility has never been very high:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors
I said two different fonts in the same word. Besides when an office buys multiple typewriters they buy all of them from the same manufacturer. Your explanation tells me you did not watch the videos.
Check this video out. The facts are there. If you cannot see the alterations then you blind!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY
See above. There are two possibilities. The first is that there really were different fonts used, different typewriters by different clerks.
You say: “Besides when an office buys multiple typewriters they buy all of them from the same manufacturer.”
Answer: You are starting to lose it. Some companies and government agencies may do that. Others by the cheapest typewriter available whenever they need a new one. It is hardly a conservative way of thinking that an inefficient government bureaucracy could enforce rules over typewriters could be purchased, and in fact keep to a standard typewriter font over many years. And, if they did not do that, then most likely there were models from different manufacturers and different fonts.
The second possibility is that the scanner simply could not recognize the font of some faintly typed letters (and remember they were on security paper) and pdf showed their font as different from what it was.
And, remember, what you claim to see in the different fonts, was not regarded as a sign of forgery by the document experts—and you are not one of them.
I do not see any alterations, but I do see a person who hates Obama and wants people to think that there were alterations.
Are you saying a scanner can make one word look like it has two different fonts from two different typewriters? If so that is downright silly. A scanner reproduces what it sees just as a camera does. A camera nor a scanner can chose what to recognize. Whatever is transferred to PDF. is transferred as is. You wrote Others by the cheapest typewriter available whenever they need a new one.
According to you whoever typed up Obama’s BC used cheap typewriters and cheap scanners? I thought birth certificates were typed at the hospital where the baby was born. I hope the hospital is not buying the cheapest equipment. What would be the reason or advantage for a document to be passed to another person to type info in another section of the same document.
I did not say two different fonts in the BC. I said two different in the same word.
You are right I am far from an expert, but I am able to see the flaws with my own eyes. Any one who is an expert says Obama’s BC was not doctored or tampered with is lying. They were either paid, threatened their loved ones were threatened or they love him as much as you do.
Re: “Whatever is transferred to PDF. is transferred as is. ”
Of course a scanner transfers the photographic image that it sees. The question is what the software recognizes the characters to be. PDF is not a photographic representation of a document. It is an attempt to represent the characters of the document, and to do that it must recognize the characters. It does not display them as a photographic image but as the fonts that it sees, and if it gets them wrong because they are faintly typed, the result is a mistake.
THAT is what caused the “TXE” in the long form. If you think that TXE is the result of a forgery, you must think that the forger is so smart that she or he would put in a mistake just to make the document look more authentic. Instead, there is simpler explanation. The TXE was caused by a faintly typed H in the word “THE.”
Re: “I did not say two different fonts in the BC. I said two different in the same word.
You are right I am far from an expert, but I am able to see the flaws with my own eyes…”
YES, there were flaws, like TXE for THE, and guess what, flaws in a scanned image of a typewritten document in which some of the characters were faintly typed are normal. Flaws do not prove forgery.
Re: “According to you whoever typed up Obama’s BC used cheap typewriters and cheap scanners? I thought birth certificates were typed at the hospital where the baby was born. ‘
Answer: The scanner, of course, was obtained about 50 years after Obama was born. The typewriting was done at one of the DOH offices from the document sent to the DOH by the hospital. One or more clerks typed the original long form BC, which is the one that was photocopied onto security paper with the contemporary seal and contemporary signature of the officials to make the official long form copy that was sent to Obama.
The web image is a scan of a photocopy onto security paper of the original typed document, and yes, there could have been multiple typewriters used since two different clerks could have entered parts of documents in order to speed up work or simply because one of them went on a break—which happens a lot in government offices. And, yes, government departments tend to buy the cheapest typewriters that are bid, and it is often considered to be corruption to buy government equipment on “no-bid contracts.”
Re: “They were either paid, threatened their loved ones were threatened or they love him as much as you do.”
Answer; John Woodman, one of the experts who says that there was nothing wrong with Obama’s BC, is a member of the TEA PARTY, and he says that he hates Obama’s policies but there is nothing wrong with Obama’s BC. No of the experts who I have quoted has ever so far as I know written any articles supporting Obama’s policies, nor has there been the slightest evidence that they were threatened.
In contrast, we do know that WND hired one of those experts to comment on whether or not Obama’s BC was forged, and when he said that it was not forged, WND simply did not publish it. And we know that WND and Orly and Sheriff Joe have used Doug Vogt, who claimed to have found the original Altar of Abraham, and Paul Irey, who claimed that Obama did not attend Columbia as “impartial” experts. Sure they were.
It remains nutty to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough or stupid enough to send their pregnant daughter at huge expense and high risk (stillbirths were common in those days) to a foreign country—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii. (And, if you say, “I didn’t say that he wasn’t born in the USA; I said the document was forged,” then what would be the motive for forging it since Obama was born in the USA and since the officials in Hawaii have stated that every word on Obama’s published birth certificate is exactly the same as the one in the files?)
Obama was born in Kenya. The Birth Certificate on the Whitehouse Website Slideshare is a Comedic forgery. And a very poor one at that. It has “Scratchouts” on it. NO official Government Document has Scratchouts on it. It has a Smiley Face on it, in 1961,. Alvin Onaka’s signature with the Script Capital “A” has a Smiley face and Forrest Gump did not invent that until 1968. The Forgery uses Kerning on it. That was not known until kerning was invented using computer controlled printing. In Data Block 6c, the words Gynological and Maternity have overlapping letters: “Gy” and “ty”. That is ABSOLUTE PROOF OR FORGERY. The reason all of his Identity documents are forgeries is because he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and was a Kenyan Citizen and a British Subject and an Indonesian Citizen and he is NOT A USA CITIZEN.
The “born in Kenya” story is the nuttiest of the birther myths, and the “smiley face” is a close second. It is simply a blur in the signature.
Here are close up images of the “smiley face”: http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/02/agency-and-patternicity/
It was not “kerning.” It was the normal skipping of a manual typewriter. If you were correct in saying that Gy and ty overlapped, you would be right, but they don’t. Look closely, the typed letters do not overlap.
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof. (Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …
Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.
Oh, and there is this:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol …
Is that all? NO there is more.
Birthers allege that the Kenyan government has hidden all documents that prove that Obama’s mother went to Kenya. Well, that is possible, but not likely—such things tend to leak. But what about the US government? Did it hide its records too?
That is because, obviously, if a child were born in Kenya she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. We simply do not allow a child to be carried into the USA without some form of official document. (Except some are smuggled across the Mexican and Canadian borders, but Kenya does not have a land border with the USA.) And a US travel document, such as having Obama added to his mother’s US passport would have required an application for that document in the US consulate in Nairobi Kenya.
That application would have been filed in multiple files, and there would have been communication about it with Washington, so it would be difficult to be lost or scrapped. And the Bush Administration was in charge of the US State Department for eight years until early 2009, so they could have found it, and if they did they would surely have shown it, and they didn’t.
So, for the “born in Kenya” story to be true, both Kenya and the Bush Administration must be part of a plot. Hawaii too, of course, and that would include the former Republican governor of Hawaii, now running for the US Senate. And the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers that were placed by the DOH in the Hawaii newspapers (and only the DOH could put notices into the Health Bureau Statistics section of the papers) in 1961 would have to be fraudulent too.
And, heck, Kenya is about ten thousand miles from Hawaii, and the idea that Obama’s parents had that kind of money or would spend it on a trip while Obama’s mother was late in pregnancy (which was very rare in those days) and take the risk of stillbirth and Yellow Fever (which was endemic in Kenya, and a Yellow Fever shot is bad during pregnancy) is nutty in the extreme.
The bottom line: There is no proof that Obama’s mother went to Kenya and it is highly unlikely that she did. The Kenyan government and Obama’s relatives both say that he was not born there. If he were born in Kenya there would have to be US government documents saying that his family applied for a passport or a visa, and there isn’t any. There is no INS check in for Obama or his mother (which would normally have taken place in New York, since there were no direct flights, and those files are not missing), and the birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties and the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers all show that he was born in Hawaii.
(He was however raised in Indonesia for several years, which is neither illegal nor immoral.)
I appreciate the info on Kenya as that was a mystery as to who filed it, and wondered if Obama Sr had done this as art of the marriage of convenience agreements/ I was fully aware of the fake Hawaii bio as of the Fall Of 1953, but not aware that his maternal grandmother apparently did someil legal filings. also, ad may have come close to being prosecuted for it. I asked Sheriff Joe;s staff to check for a criminal investigation file form the time, of stealing a pad of birth certificates from the hospital which, as I;m recalling vaguely (I;m careful as to what is known as eye witness for sure and what is vague) that this whoel incident may b had led to laws getting passed.
As for I was there I was!! And if someone wold help on this, there are volumes of all kinds of records in Toepka ks but so much money has been made off o false info and the President fueled the flames on this by “weaving s a story” he said in 2004 and got it Wong. Its why I don;t understand why Orly Taitz would not ask for the court order. form the open case in Ks. for his records. for last 9/12. Is the whole city of Topeka so scared of westboro Baptist and there ‘possible’ involvement in some way what the murder of his dad and the attempted murder of his mother ad he unborn’? I have questions of things I don’t know , too. But If any one is in Ks and could go check some records, please do so and let the world know. I lived through this and to face the evil around this was not good then and still is not. I wasn’t on the internet in 2008 and i and when I got on to blow the whistle on govt corruption that was threatening our lives, I began seeing this info and left comments ad then when the two fires occurred where some records might ea couple of years ago, I started contacting birther groups but no one was interested in the truth at all.I;m not a lawyer, but I do n=know that in a civil proceeding Ms Taitz needs to prove more than a forgery that may have been down by some over zealous campaign worker if all he ever had was a birth announcement before the theft was detected, if that;s what happened. He has always been eleigible to be president. Character and politics should have always been he focus ad I don;t think the media ever let us know much about that for either of the main candidates. You can see some proof on line about me being in Toepka ks then a you pull up the Sunflower Yearbook form Toepka HS I;m in there its small as they want you to buy it. I was also in the newspapers many times doing things in school and city activities, etc. including Brown Vs Board of education involvement. We lived at 1748 Randolph St in case you want to check. Ann was involved in things at Capper Jr HS, too. People do remember but the reluctance to talk is not the birth, its the reminders. I I;m going to ask for some family hep to get into some of my parents records I got when they passe, as to what they had saved. When my Mom passed in 1996, I went through them more fr estate purposes and wanted to get back and catalogue other thins better and then we ended up in a life and death struggle over govt corruption which I;ve posted on line also. I do appreciate the sharing here, as a lot of good an dinformative things ae coming to light. If you’ve ever faced the wrtath of the westboro chruch hatefulness, then you know what I ha to be up against as a 15 years old myself and others over this. and still w are. I don;t know who did the murders but they were egging on the rage, that;s for sure. Linda JOy Adams, eye witness
Thank you! Her make-up is not the issue but these trolls obviously are O lovers and they always call names or pick up stupid things to offer. We know in our hearts he is an alien and has never provided ANY real documentation and thus is not eligible to be in the WH or our country. He needs to be hauled off to Gitmo with his friends! As to SS numbers, in all my years and work in law, I have never seen any errors in SS numbers, so this is another excuse a troll uses. Hawaii sells “birth certificates”, so we know that this was just another attempt by O’s puppeteers to validate him but it has backfired because, thank God, we have many intelligent and patriotic Americans fighting this garbage as much and as fast as we can. I wager the Congressmen will not respond and hope this goes away. However, if not they will be in contempt (nothing new there, however) of the subpoena and the American public, and especially their constituents, who should immediately file for their recall!
i never call names.
Re: “As to SS numbers, in all my years and work in law, I have never seen any errors in SS numbers.’
However, I have. There were three numbers in my own file, and I only applied for an SS number once. Moreover, the articles say that there were MILLIONS of errors and that the main cause of the errors were data entry errors by SS Administration clerks. (And, BTW, the notion that SS Administration did not make data entry errors is in violation of good conservative principles that have held for years that bureaucrats tend to make lots of sloppy mistakes.)
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38678753/How_Many_Social_Security_Numbers_Do_You_Have
http://www.securityworldnews.com/2010/08/12/20-million-americans-have-multiple-social-security-numbers-associated-with-their-name/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20013733-501465.html
You keep saying “articles say that there were MILLIONS of errors and that the main cause of the errors were data entry errors by SS Administration clerks.”
I am sure the people who have multiple SSNs use the legal SSN and ignore the others.
You also say you have three SSN’s in your own file. Do you use all three or just one. I am sure one of them is the legal one and that is the one you use. Why did your hero, Obama, use a stolen SSN on his tax returns of which Orly Taitz has a copy if it is mistake. I guess you think his accountant made the mistake.. BHO’s accountant can only use the SSN provided to him by BHO.
Taitz showed a Member of the Judiciary Committee Congressman Loui Gohmert Obama’s tax returns with CT SSN 042-68-4425 and SSNVS and E-verify, showing that Obama failed E-Verify and SSNVS, that he is using a stolen SSN. This alone is an impeachable offence!
Your are right. These people have no vision except with their eyes. All that glitters is indeed gold to them. They are void of discernment and are of the ones blinded and are on their way to hell. It is more serious than the mockery they are giving. These people are siding with evil and are lost to God at this time. Most will stay that way until they are in hell where they will then realize how evil they are. There will be no mind changing there. They are not realizing it, but they are fighting God and decency for Obama who is a liar, a deceiver, a man with no regard for women and is at the minimum a precursor to worse he will bring in.
Your are right. These people have no vision except with their eyes. All that glitters is indeed gold to them. They are void of discernment and are of the ones blinded and are on their way to hell. It is more serious than the mockery they are giving. These people are siding with evil and are lost to God at this time. Most will stay that way until they are in hell where they will then realize how evil they are. There will be no mind changing there. They are not realizing it, but they are fighting God and decency for Obama who is a liar, a deceiver, a man with no regard for women and is at the minimum a precursor to worse he will bring in.
Gee, and what do you think of Pelosi? Or Debbie Wasserman Shultz? Helen Thomas? Susan Estrich!!! OMG – Susan Estrich is so ugly there needs to be a new category or new word! Or all the butt-uglier democrap libtards who you support? Do you overlook their looks just because they spew libtard garbage lies that you support? Go to this link and let’s compare! http://stocksonwallstreet.net/tag/ugly-democrat-women/
Lastly – what makes conservative women attractive, in addition to their looks, is their brains, intelligence, ability to articulate, to have clear rationale logical thoughts. The truth is – who cares how they look – conservatives are right about everything and libtards are frickin’ morons! The only reason I stooped to talking about looks is that even when it comes to comparing looks, liberals lose! And they lose big-time. Look at the difference – check out that link! And they left off Megyn Kelly, Shannon Bream, Molly Line, Molly Henneberg, Dana Piro, and so many more.
And not only are they deficient in the looks department, they’re deficient in the brain department as well, which makes them look even more absurd and uninformed. Great response AlwaysRIGHT!
I forgot to add this link in my comment about BHO using a stolen SSN. Orly Tairz has the proof.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/rt-orly-taitz-states-obama-is-using-stolen-connecticut-ss-number-and-provides-proof/#comment-185006
OMG how can I post this on my F/B account…love it
Go for it. Oh, and I forgot to mention Sandra Smith (Fox Business News) – wow – she is spectacularly beautiful, and smart/articulate too.
Copy login to FB and paste ot in the box at the top where it says What’s on your mind. click post and wait until it is posted. Hope this helps.
It has been said and I can not help but agree that next to God, the devil hates motherhood. Motherhood is another thing evil men of greed will never be able to obtain. The nature of women are gentle, normally and there is power in the gentle nurturing that molds children into those who in many cases become great. There can be great strile around but the love and kindness in a mother offers a security that is not the same as the love and kindness in men. It is something that evil despises because it is unotainable to them. They cannot manipulate this. So these butchy types you see in the Obama administration are accepted for the fact they are not appearing as the kind motherly types where the power of molding children is as effective. These evil people know instinctively that there is power in love and kindness and they are trying at any means to erase this. This is a secrete weapon that evil has no ability to use and cannot pretend to have. They can only appear to have it through words and lies agains others by bringing out all the bad points they can and smearing them. Those in the Obama administration standing against womanhood and motherhood are those who have something missing in them that they need to be capable of giving anything close to the love God has for His children.
chilidog—i have been watching the comments for several days and i find one thing constant—–your smarmy little inserts— i may not agree not agree with what some are saying but i feel they are honest opinions—your first impression was her physical look not what she said—this is a serious time and most people are concerned so may i suggest you take these things seriously or check out—now go ahead and answer in some smart ass manner
Thanks for your commnt, it is serous. And it started in Topeka Ks where the Pres was born and eligibliity has never been an issue. Just another baby never told the truth of his origins but in this case thee murders and his mother, with him unborn also attacked. No justice for 50+ years and that is part of who he is No one has talked since the bodeis went under the water.. FACT: THE US SENATE cleared his paper work to be sitting in that body: What was on his initial papers filed with them when he decided to run for the US Senate back before 2004? Why didn’t they clear this up then? Many do’;t know that unlike all other offices, one files with the US Senate first, not ther states. As for other issues,, the few in Congress that are trying to get to the FULL TRUTH need our support.. I am disppointed in Ms Taitz for not asking for the court order last 9/12 from the Topeka Ks judges. I send her copies of my Daily Recaps telling the real bio) . and if all those spewing out disrespectful comments would help, maybe we could get to the truth. I don’t live in KS any more and the marriage to Obama Sr, a couple of months before birth for conveneince of both; the birth at Forbes Air force base hssitpial werer in the Topeka Capital Joural annoucmenments and before 6/62, the ariticles when the bodies wshed up on th sand bar in the Kansas River with the rope around the neck ofh is real Dad. murdered in the attackon the interracial teenage couple sititing onthe banks of the river trying to plan what to do as they were pregnant. After a gossip fernzy in the city and at Topeka Hs with some teenagers from Westboro Baptist where Ann was sent to live by her mother and go to school – she had to get away form there. His real Dad never in the meda and he had told fellow studeet he was a realive of Rosa Parks and Husband, whihc caused even moreire form those not wanteing integraton. Te miracle is the boes washed up later as many fothe ‘disppeared’ of Toepka Ks never did as the undecurrents washed down away. Any one in Ks with access to libary archives please search for the records and post on line, etc. for the truth to get out. The new oweners of the Topeka Captial Journal will not permit her reporters to even check as I’d called asking them for assisatance, last year before I began psoitng on my own sites of the etialsof my eye qitnessaccount ofthe events of his birth. ( my mother took Ann to the hopstal to have eim and was present at the birth) as the names were in the articleson the bodies. in the Evening paper , The Juornal. I’m not good at remembering exact dates but the events are clear as I WAS THERE and my parents were asked to intervene and take gdshp s Ann;s great uncle. The whole turth is a lot more than his birth record. Linda Joy Adams,
What?
You keep repeating a story that is just that, a story and not factual and nothing there to back it up. Give it up and get a life!
Dou you know what an eye witness is? No Story, its thet ruth> Were YOu There? I was!! Thre have been very little eye witnesses in all that’;s out there. And I;ve been searcing since 7/26/12 for them and ususally theyonly get into one site oar another to make a commenta dn then shunned. I;m not an eye witess to the entire life, That;s for other iey witnesse to come forward with. But you comment is not heleping find the truth. What I wnat to know is what is your source, who;s the ey witness. And the main media has begun to admit they had the facts early. I;m whoI say I am: eye witness and i:ve tried to bevery carelful wht I know first hand andif its ehresay where is it from? What we have is evryon that calls Pres obama a liar, iswillig to belive the bio he gives, when he admiteted in 2004 it was what he was otld, and he wove a story. No one around him has cared enough to tell him? So who are all thse people around him that kown and don;t tell him and what;s ther agenda. They don;t repsect him and they aren;t serving this nation or our president very well form the left side. We need to encourge eye witnesses and hten analaysze wh they ahve. Like the teaher who talked with the Hwaii doctor, who wasn;t present at birh but only say Staneley Ann on an annoucmements. Thre were annoucmements in the Toepka KS paper , too. Linda Joy Adams
@Chilidog Wow, such profound observation skill and coming from such an empty head, yours! How did you manage it? My guess is that people such as yourself insert these totally irrelevant little zinger comments just for the sake of stirring the pot so that you can watch all the negative responses you get from the opposition. Go back to your couch in your mother’s basement and leave these forums to the adults. Make sure to keep your Obama doll next to you at all times.
Orly Taitz is on our side. She has spent a lot of time researching Obama’s criminal acts and dozens of ss numbers, aliases, fraudulent draft card ( not having a draft card makes one ineligible to run for president.) etc. No one is able to get through the courts, even the supremes, they are corrupted by Obama also.
anestat, if thats addressed to chili you are wasting your time, he is a liberal moron plant here to stir up trouble
stop looking in the Mirror moron
Within a minute of getting this email I went to it and the video is already removed. Geez, that’s DUMB!
She looks like a rejected contestant from a drag queen contest.
No, that would be your wife. Do me a favor gas man, change your diaper in mommies basement once would you? and please post something of meaning, oh, that’s right…you’re not capable
I know what you mean. Couldn’t agree with you more. Although, the list missed a few mugshots like Diane Frankenstein (Feinstein) and Rosa de Lauro. http://delauro.house.gov/
Liberals always try to change the subject by talking about looks, hair, etc. because Liberals, a.k.a. bedwetters living in mommy’s basement have no thought process other than a rambling idiot troll.
Stevor,
That ain’t dumb.
THAT is the elite commie nobummer regime gestapo destroying your/our 1st Amendment rights.
What will you do about it?
Waaaaaa waaaaaaaaa waaaa
TOS violation are a bitch.
How old are you? 8…cause you sure act worse than a child. In fact, that may be an insult to a child.
I know I tried to view it and it’s already been taken down. God bless poor Orly she never gives up! We need more precious souls like her out there and maybe we wouldn’t be going through the hell we are now!
I am going to her site to see what has happened.
Yes, I agree, God Bless Orly. She’s been working hard on this. We need to pray for her that she will succeed in proving the truth in a court of law. Also, pray that no harm comes to her.
So, where is the link to Orly Taitz or to a specific Court Record of filing?
Anybody?
You don’t want to go to her site. It’s notorious for being loaded with Russian malware.
Chilidog: That is a lie. I am not going to post the link to her website, so that you and those of your ilk, won’t be able to easily troll it.
I go there every day to keep up to date on what is happening.
Please don’t feed the trolls!!
That’s BS!!
I was directing my comment toward “Chilidog”
you should like russian malware you commie…chilidog. OMG, I have so much gas tonight from eatin that chilidog
It’s on Youtube…
my notes: in 1955, hawaii passed statue377. this meant,”anyone”,could set up a resident in hawaii,pay taxes for one year. this then allowed,that person to bring in “anyone” and that “anyone” ,would get an official hawaii birth certificate. hawaii is known as the bogus birth certificate factory. this is how they got “OB”, his certificate. also,on one shown on record ,there have been numbers,letters, erased from it, by the washington government,by a machine. but marks are still there. so record ,he showed is fraud, also he was not born in hawaii. his mother,was pregnant by an man,last name davis. she married to cover up the illegal affair with davis. pl,orl,fla
The above is simply not true. Hawaii has never allowed a birth certificate to be issued with a Hawaii location of birth on it (such as Honolulu, which Obama’s short-form birth certificate says, or Kapiolani Hospital, Honolulu, which his long form birth certificate says) unless there was proof that the child was indeed born in that location. And the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the BCs to Obama and that the facts on the published short form and long form are EXACTLY the same as on the BC in the files.
Re: “there have been numbers,letters, erased from it, by the washington government,by a machine.”
Answer; No there weren’t. (But you have the right to dream that that took place.)
Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, and it is simply nutty to think that his parents were rich enough (They weren’t. Obama’s American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank) or stupid enough to send their pregnant daughter at enormous expense and high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country (and BTW the Kenyan government says that for sure Obama was not born there)—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Please don;t mix up the real Stanley Dunham with grandfather, my cousin Daniel Wayne Pope. who stole Mr Dunham’s wallet to go to www Ii when ttoo young and too young to get married either. My source, His mother my Aunt Helen Poep in Fall of 1963 when my mother asked how Dunham got on the gdnshp papers for Ann which she and I ent to westboro Baptist Easter Sun of 1961 to get signed over after the authorities verified with the real Stanley Dunham what had occurred and he was aware of who had stolen hie wallet and ID and directed them to the grandparents of Ann in Holyoke colorado who then contacted Aunt Helen’s dad, her brother and my parents intervened in a terrible situation with the authorities wanted to over up three deaths and would haVE GOTTEN BY WITH IT IF THEY BOEIS HAD NOT WASHED UP ON A SAND BAR LATER. Ann WAS NOT TO BLEIBE BELIVED WITHE THAT BOH WERE ATTACKED AS THEY SAT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO AFTER FINDING OUT THEY WERE PREGNANT. AS A YOUNG TEENAGE COUPLE. they NEVER HAD A CHANGE TO DECID.E Can you understand how many ;knew’ and surely would remember something. Some were ashamed of getting swept up in the gossip frenzy that turned deadly. It did cause a change of who got elected sheriff, but if witnesses wouldn’t talk, little hope to solve the murders. Its time for justice! The president should have written the letter to A G HOLDER and not me back in 9/12 asking if they could still do something 50+ years late. ? Linda Joy Adams
This is really scary……..even Youtube has it “removed”
WHAT is going on?
I DEMAND my 1st A rights!
“Removed by user” means Orly took it down herself.
Maybe she is embarrassed by the bags under her eyes.
Or maybe she is afraid of being sanctioned for abuse of process.
Who knows
I’m sure shell tell us the truth. Maybe
It has nothing to do with anything you’re babbling about. I’m on her website 3-4 times a week and have never had a problem.
Are you an obot? What do you have against her? Is it because she is right?
I like everyone else beileves she is right , but an email came around promiseing information on her latest petition and when we clicked on it we got a message that the used removed the clip ! Naturally we all want to know if we can get the country back on track by getting rid of this imposter !!
Joann523.. pay no attn to chilidog…he has gas
No Video. What’s this about?????
Everyone needs to go to her website! She has all info on there. Her life has been threatened and ovomits thugs have been harassing her constantly! There is so much on there you just need to go check it out!
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com
Her site is a notorious repository of Rusian malware.
chilidog – YOU LIE. There is no malware there. Orly Taitz keeps a close watch on her site.
Just like your comments are a notorious repository of BS
Nice spelling genius, that public school education really paid of huh? LOL….Rusian
Why, because she speaks with an accent?
I’m surprised she’s hasn’t been whacked. She may be dangerous to the idiot’s that call themselves Democrats. But, we all know that that almost the entire judicial system is now rigged.
Ignore chilidogcrap, he’s full of malarkey, to quote Joe Buffoon Biden.
Waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaaaaa
Poor poor poor Orly
She just keeps digging that hole deeper
Insanity is never pretty.
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the video has been taken down from her site as well. I’m no grand conspiracy theorist but, this stinks to high heaven. This isn’t the first time that a video “against” Obama has been “removed by user.” Remember that SOTU speach about federal oversight of the internet because of “cyber threats?” I guess we see what kind of “threats” he meant. Unbelievable!!!
Why would anybody conspire to remove it? I saw it before Orly pulled it herself and she looks awful in it. She’s probably just embarrassed at how bad she looks.
I’m embarrassed at how bad you write, or try to ORATE, or make a comment, or just reply in general with your drivel
I stand corrected. It wasn’t pulled by Orly, but by the guy who posted it, Adam Kokesh.
He has a blog titled “Adam v. The Man”
Looks like The Man” won.
Bwahahahaha
You seemed to take particular delight in dissing Orly Taitz for a number of reasons in your inane posts. Son, I don’t care if she looks like your Mother if she is successful in her efforts to disprove Barry’s eligibility to be President. You may recall that when announced by the Democrats in 2008, NO ONE said ANYTHING about his being properly vetted. It was simply ANNOUNCED that he would be their candidate for the Presidency. In the interim, he’s made only 1 lame-ass effort to validate his claim to be a natural born citizen with that long form Hawaiian birth certificate. You remember the one with 7-8 different layers of bogus info on it? I hope she persists in her efforts, but it would not surprise me to read that she committed suicide by shooting herself 17 times or simply just disappeared.
Hey chilidog, did your mother have any children that lived. Cause I think when you were born they threw away the baby and raised the afterbirth
Congressional meetings 03.05.2013 re ObamaForgeryGate. 14 Congressmen, among them 12 members of the Judiciary committee received subpoenas. Report will be provided tomorrow
If you guys are afraid to go to her site I will let you know what she reports tomorrow.
It appears that only those who don’t want to learn anything definitive stay away from her site.
Make sure he appears for this subphoena and does not ignore it like he did the other one.
YOU MAY FIND THE VIDEO AT…….BEFORE ITS NEWS
GOOD!!!! As for us sorry ass Americans who jump when somebody says BOO, we should be ashamed of ourselves that this woman stands virtually alone in her quest for truth. We should be rallying around her thousands of people deep!
Wonder if CONgress will comply. I bet they don’t. BO the LIAR himself was given subpoena to appear in court about his ineligibility and he never showed up! Guess what happens to me and you if we ignore a subpoena? WE GO TO JAIL is what happens. OOOOHHHHH I can’t wait until this illegal is physically removed from OUR white house. The rage I feel when seeing his face makes my ass grow teeth.
I TOO, FOUND THE SITE REMOVED. I ALWAYS READ ABOUT THE GOOD WORK THAT THIS NICE, BRAVE LADY IS DOING TO GET THE TRUTH REGARDING THIS ILLEGAL TERRORIST/THUG IN THE WHITE HOUSE. CHILIDOG IS EVIDENTLY A DONKEY/ASS (DEM), GAY TERRORIST LOVER TRYING TO DEGRADE SOMEONE WHO IS BEAUTIFUL TO THE SOUL, HONEST AND LOVES AMERICA. I THINK THAT SHE IS ON THE VERGE OF SENDING THIS TERRORIST AGAINST AMERICA TO GITMO FOR TERRORISM AGAINST AMERICA AND THE FIRING SQUAD. THANK YOU, MS. TAITZ FOR YOU CARING ABOUT AMERICA. PEOPLE (ESPECIALLY GAY LOVERS AND REPORTER BRIETBART) WHO HAVE TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT THE RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORIST RULING AMERICA HAS WOUND UP DEAD. OF COURSE, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN “NATURAL CAUSES OR HEART ATTACKS”. THIS TERRORIST/THUG’S ASSOCIATE THUGS “TAKE THEM OUT/OFF THEM”. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND MS. TAITZ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWW5BzOtk9c
Jenny_CW thanks for the fax list. very helpful and informative. who was subpoened and what court case. as One doesn;t ‘subpoena’ Congress. Would have to be an individual person to testify.in some case somewhere. She still has the most improtant case and a judge waiting in Topeka Ks for her to ask for the court order for the real Birth ceritificate of Pres Obama from Forbes air Force Base Hosptial and the death certificate of his real Dad murderd before birh and before birth the arranged marriage certificate to Obama Sr. I just don’t understand why no one will help get these, and the birh and marrige were in the Topeka Captial Journal but the new owners won’t let their reporters go check archives. Thanks again as this is the commitee that needs to over haul the Office of Inapector General system which has become a poltiical pawn of the political heads of the agenices as can’t investigiate a crime nor refoer for prosecution without political head approval. They should be under the justice dept and the US atty and the whole relatonship gets very broken and corrupted too many times. In our case felony deaths of some of my co workers and most of us will die of our injrueis at some time and all should be labeled a homicide.. Agency head wouldn;t let FBI in the door and thes 1/89 inccident was a precursor to 9/11. 9/11 commission didn;t go back before 1995 and it became worthless to really get to the corrupted mess in DC. Linda Joy Adams
You are so welcome. There is one additional # for Sen. Lindsey (delusional traitor) Graham. The DC fax is not working, surprise, surprise. Here’s an alternative DC fax that will reach him: 202-228-5143.
Your information that you have provided is very helpful as well. Regardless of birthplace, he spent $5,000,000 of our money concealing his past. All Americans deserve a leader who has COMPLETE ALLEGIANCE TO OUR COUNTRY. We all know he doesn’t. His mission is to inflict as much pain as possible on the American people.
Thanks again Linda! Continued blessings to you.
Re: “he spent $5,000,000 of our money concealing his past. ”
Answer: NO he didn’t.. He did not spend a cent either of our money or his money. He did not spend a cent at all because (1) he really did show the birth certificate of Hawaii, twice, and the officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent it to him and that all the facts on the published long form birth certificate are accurate, and; (2) Obama was never sued for his birth certificate or for any document—–only to have him removed from ballots or declared ineligible. Obama paid money (a little bit, since it does not cost very much to file the same boilerplate to throw out a case repeatedly) to stay on the ballot and to not be declared ineligible. But, since he was not sued for documents, he did not spend a cent on hiding them.
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Jenny ,
To you and others on this blog.
In spite of Bobmann101′s plea to stick to the subject, I feel compelled to point out
that ellen is a t-r-o-l-l…… troll…..
IF you allow it, by responding to her posts, she will obliterate the original opic.
THE only appropriate answer to ellen is ostracize….ignore her… do not provide her/it any opportunity to destroy the blog.
Except for……Scusi, bobmann,….these are my final words about ellen on this blog.
I understand but I maintain my right to post contact information whenever and wherever possible. If I reach just one more person …
I was talking about johnbunghole0325 and Chilidog. As far as Ellen I no longer reply to her comments. Instead I will reply to another members comment which I am sure she will read.
As far as your comments, keep up the good work!
Thanks, meeting with staff member of Rep. Doug Collins, member of House Judic.Comm., on March 12. Bringing copies of all evidence. TU for all you do too!
Better take Ellen with you
Re: “As far as Ellen I no longer reply to her comments.” And “troll.”
When someone responds politely to the comments on this blog and shows the facts, some people who post here call her a “troll.” Well, this site welcomes everyone, particularly those who are polite and show the facts. And that is what I have done.
Well, I do not post for you but for any rational person who visits this site and seeks to see the facts.
(1) The officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they sent the official short form BC to Obama and the long form BC; (2) and there is a statement from a member of the press that she had seen the physical copy of the long-form BC and felt the seal; and (3) The officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that the facts on Obama’s long-form BC—-including the name of the hospital and the doctor—-are EXACTLY the same as the facts on the document in the files.
Here are some links that confirm those three facts:
Here is one of the more recent confirmations:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Obama-Verification_Page_1_Image_0001.jpg
Here is the first confirmation, back when a Republican governor was in office:
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
Here is confirmation that Hawaii sent the long-form BC to Obama:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf
Here is confirmation that Hawaii cannot publish Obama’s BC itself or give it out to the Sheriff (unless he has a court order):
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm
Here is the confirmation sent to the Secretary of State of Arizona (and accepted as valid confirmation by him) NOTICE that it says that the facts MATCH those in the files, that they are exactly the same:
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verific…
As you can see, that not only answers all 12 questions that were asked by Bennett, but it says “additionally” that it checked the information in the copy attached and that it matches the document in the files.
Here is a statement from the member of the press, Savannah Guthrie, that she had felt the seal on Obama’s long form BC:
https://twitter.com/SavannahGuthrie/status/63373897835356161
And here is the confirmation by the governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican, that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/20…
Here is the Index Data file:
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html
Here is the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm
I did, of course, have to cut and paste the links. How else can links be shown?
The links show that I did not lie, and that: (1) The officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they sent the official short form BC to Obama and the long form BC; (2) and there is a statement from a member of the press that she had seen the physical copy of the long-form BC and felt the seal; and (3) The officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that the facts on Obama’s long-form BC—-including the name of the hospital and the doctor—-are EXACTLY the same as the facts on the document in the files.
Moreover, it remains nutty to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough or dumb enough to send their pregnant daughter to Kenya or to any other country at huge expense and high risk of stillbirth (and Yellow Fever in Kenya), when there were perfectly good hospitals in Hawaii.
Shut up ellen and get a clue. We are tired of your stupidity.
I wish people would stick to the subject of the post instead of trading barbs, insults and name calling. Childish, uncalled for and unwanted.
Bobmann101,
“scusi” is the Italian word for “excuse me”
Re-written, my comment…..
Scusi, bobmann,
becomes
Excuse me, bobmann
Capiece?
Thanks My911 I Capiece I learn something new everyday.
I have a group of “global” colleagues.
To my dismay, they ALL speak English.
But I struggle with their language.
So, in my emails is always a challenge to “teach me”.
I likely know 25-50 words in 15-20 different languages.
Most important is “Thank You”
Gratzie
Gracias
Jekuhya
Di Nada
CPacebo
Danke schoen
XixXie (she she)
Mercie Beacoup
Enough… back to the topic
WHY do we need all this.
His ( reported) father was Kenyan, A British subject…. nuff said
…oh… his reported father is not his father?
Oh…. well how about the infinite instances of malfeasance of office; of breaking his oath to uphold laws of America.
How about the “root canal” acquiescence of no authority to “drone” an American in the USA unless there is imminent danger….. and just, exactly, who declares “imminent” danger.
IF he ever pulls a stunt like that I predict he will be out of office within 24 hours… walking or feet first, but OUT
One last “shot”…. va ponyhameyetha?
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Do you have some inside info that the Toepka Ks (real one) birth certificate is stamped ” not for citizenship purposes” under the name Barry Soetoro? indicating use for and adoption and there was a revocation of citizenship. If this is true, then Sec of state Kris Kobach should be charged with perjury as he told the KS judge he was eligible. The birth in Toepka ks at Forbes air force Base gave him eligibility, which i has never been an issue. even though the President of the USA is just another baby never told the truth of his origins. Time for the whole truth to come out and that means who murdered his real Dad and attempted murder of is mother, pregnant with him on the banks of the Ks river which ended with he social necessity and pressure fr an arranged marriage of Obama Sr also in Topeka ks. I am not in Ks and if any one wis will you see if you local library has the archives of the Toepka Capital Journal for 1961 as the birth and marriage announcements were in it as well a the ariticles on the three odes hat washed up on a and bar before 6.62. Time for someone to start going after the real truth in this and its going to end with a lot more than a birth certificate. Linda Joy Adams eye witness to events of Toepka ks birth.
I am not sure an attorney can subpoena Congress. I did a lot of research and could not find an answer. Can anyone help?
The first question you should ask is what court issued the “subpoena.” When you find out what court and what judge signed the subpoena, then you will know that there really is a subpoena. After that, you can ask whether it is legal. What is the court? Who is the judge who signed it?
Thank you. Much appreciated.
A judge’s signature is not required, nor is a court stamp. Opposing counsel may sign. A warrant requires a judge or magistrate signature.
Re: “A judge’s signature is not required, nor is a court stamp. ”
Are you claiming that a lawyer can issue a subpoena to the US Congress WITHOUT the signature of a judge?
Bobmann101, it’s the United States District Court for the Eastern District of California. I have a copy of my Congressman’s subpoena, which I’m also presenting to him on Tuesday along with Articles of Impeachment. It’s Civil Action No. 12-cv-02997. If you’d like a copy, let me know and I will e-mail it to you.
I believe you. Are you going to present him the list of Obama’s acts of treason?
I just found this. So am posting while I am here.
The investigative journalist Wayne Madsen points out that Indonesian law explicitly states that dual citizenship is not permitted and, according to a 1958 Indonesian law, only Indonesian citizens could be enrolled in either of the two schools Barry attended in Jakarta, St. Fransiskus Assisi Catholic School and Menteng Elementary.
Investigative reporter Aaron Klein, in World Net Daily, points out that a 2007 Associated Press photograph taken by Tatan Syuflana, an Indonesian AP reporter and photographer, surfaced on
http://www.Daylife.com
A photographic website showing an image of Obamas registration card at Indonesia’s Fransiskus Assisi school. In the picture, Obama is registered under the name Barry Soetoro by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. The school card lists Barry Soetoro as a Muslim. Madsen admits that Obama’s adoption was formal and carried out pursuant to Indonesian law. Soebarkah may be Obama’s given Indonesian name: a legal requirement in his formal adoption process to become an Indonesian citizen.
President Barack Obama, while growing up in Indonesia was an Indonesian Muslim known as Barry Soetoro.
(1) When did he change his name, renounce Islam and regain U.S. citizenship?
(2) THE TRUTH IS HE NEVER RENOUNCED ISLAM.
(3) Nor Did He Regain U.S. Citizenship by being here in the USA.
Re: “Obama’s Mother MARRIED Mr. Lolo Soetoro and became a Citizen of Indonesia and muslum at a young age…and took on the name of Barry Soetoro.”
Re: Obama used the name of his stepfather when he was in Indonesia (I used an Asian name when I lived in Asia as well), but he never legally changed his name nor was he legally adopted (which requires the action of a district court, and no such court papers have ever been found). Obama’s mother did indeed marry Soetoro, but Obama never became an Indonesian citizen, nor was he adopted by Soetoro.
Re: “The investigative journalist Wayne Madsen points out that Indonesian law explicitly states that dual citizenship is not permitted…”
Answer: That is true, but OBAMA WAS NEVER AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN, as the Indonesian Embassy in Washington will confirm. Just call them up and ASK (ask for the press officer).
Re: “an image of Obama’s registration card at Indonesia’s Fransiskus Assisi school. In the picture, Obama is registered under the name Barry Soetoro by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. The school card lists Barry Soetoro as a Muslim…”
Answer. Yes, that UNSIGNED document claims that Obama was an Indonesian citizen, but the Indonesian government says that he wasn’t, and it says that Obama was a Muslim, but that also is not confirmed by anything. Do clerks who fill in forms occasionally make mistakes? Of course they do.
Re: “Madsen admits that Obama’s adoption was formal and carried out pursuant to Indonesian law. ‘
Answer: Madsen doen’t “admit.” He is a birther, and he claims that Obama was adopted, but he has no proof of it, and he claims that Obama was an Indonesian citizen, but the Indonesian government, which knows, says that he wasn’t.
Re: “(1) When did he change his name, renounce Islam and regain U.S. citizenship?”
Answer: Since he never legally changed his name and never renounced US citizenship (which, BTW, can only be done IN WRITING before a US consul), he never had to change his name back and never had to regain US citizenship because he never lost it.
Re: “(2) THE TRUTH IS…HE NEVER RENOUNCED ISLAM.”
Answer: You mean he never renounced the claim by an unknown clerk on an unsigned document that he was a Muslim. Well, he is a baptized Christian, and so are his daughters. But, if he were a Muslim (which he isn’t), that would be neither illegal nor immoral. Remember Mohammed Ali, the heavyweight champion? Remember Karim Abdul Jabbar?
And the evidence is overwhelming that he was born in Hawaii and since the meaning of Natural Born refers to the place of birth (which the US Supreme Court ruled in the Wong Kim Ark case, which btw was after Minor v. Happersett), Obama is a Natural Born US Citizen, and he was re-elected on November 6 and was sworn in for his second term by the Chief Justice of the USA.
Re: “The investigative journalist Wayne Madsen points out that Indonesian law explicitly states that dual citizenship is not permitted and, according to a 1958 Indonesian law, ”
Why not call the Indonesian Embassy and ask whether there was such a law? The answer is that there wasn’t (but you may prefer to believe birther claims).
Okay, so why not just use your brain then. There is a law in New York state that a person must be 21 to get a drink at a bar. Let us say that George has just gotten a drink at a bar. Does that mean that George must be 21?
Answer: No it doesn’t, obviously, because it is possible to break that law and get away with it. (But you seem to think that it would not be possible in Indonesia, if there were such a law, for people to break it and get away with it—why?) In fact, there was no such law, and if there had been such a law, which there wasn’t, people could easily break it because, duh, Indonesia was corrupt, so bribes could be used to break the law.
So there is no evidence whatever that Obama really was an Indonesian citizen, and the Indonesian embassy denies that he ever was (as did the US State Department in a legal filing). And the law says that a US child cannot lose his citizenship due to actions taken by his parents, and in fact any US citizen can only renounce US citizenship IN WRITING filed before a US Consul, and there is no such document.
Thanks for the info re Indonesia. Then there is no issue of eligibility as his Topeka’s Birth certificate and announcement in the Topeka paper backs that up. And it a rebuttable presumption that e husband is the father which he wasn’t . If any pseudo adoption took place that is it through the marriage. But not formally. Then the issue of Hawaii. I wish i had access to the SSA libary in Baltimire on this if they have the info yet, But if a paid of blank state forms was stolen form he hospital and filed, the initial notice of birth would have gone out, maybe before it was discovered. All I knew was that be Fall of 1963 his maternal grandmother had crated a fake Hawaii bio, but I was not aware of legal filings initial more recent times. and the info shared. Much progress i has been made on this site. Also I checked and read the article form the Hawaii doctor , carefully It appears he was only witness to reading the birth annoucments on a list form the hospital. Which is not eyewitness except to the theft which is apparently not detected until later. if that is waqt occurred. Hat I know for sure is My mother took Ann to Fores to have him and i saw him soon after birth myself. Thus makes the other issues and documents even more important about character,, etc. if they are legit and I have no eye witness info that they are or aren’t. Being a person of less than admiral character does not make one ineleigible to rn or President, that;a the ovters to decide if what one did in ther past matters. Linda Joy Adams
Yes, yours and another I found listing 81 treasonous offenses. I like yours as it has the Article & Section #s. Also will bring copy of the cover of her petition to Congress. Thanks again Bob.
What was the name of the judge who signed the “subpoena?” (And, in fact, did a judge sign the “subpoena.”)
The fact is that he is in there illegaly,we know it he knows it and everybody else knows it and he must be taken down,plus there’;s the multiple counts of treason as well,al of this is well documented and all are on the records and he has no credible defence for any of it at all
What I;ve learned is they know the truth of is eleigiblitiy and birth in Toepka ks . Guess they are afraid of tangling with Westboro Bapatist? Who are they? Pther than realitves fo his maternal granmother as my parest were alwsy led to beleive?Linda Joy Adams eye witness to eents of hisnbort in Toepka Ks and I knew is real Dad, with no justice for 50+ yars for the three dead>
He may be a lot of things but he has alway been eligible born In Tpopeka Ks and Dad, never in the media, An American, military son and he had said he was realted to Rosa Parks which in part led to the racialgossip frenYY that ended with his deaht and the attempted murder of Ann wiht the resident unblrn in the Nsas River there. Marrige to obama Sr arranged by my Dad and he marreid them. Th emeian media has always knwn this and never confrented Pres Obama, jsut another baby never told the truth of his roigins. But fear and ratilaition was real 50+ yearsago. The authortiies would not invesitigate and didn;t care that three bodies went ouner the water until they surfaced later on. TRUTH has been missing a lot in the last decde in plitics. Linda joy Adams
THanks to the person that posted the link to the Buffalo paper on the former teacher that said she had an eye witness to the birth in Hawaii. I read the article and the source is NOT an eye witness. The Doctor who had been talked to merely said there was birth at the hospital there. And what has been coming to light, and I remember something about this form my work at Social security. a pad of birth certificates we was stolen form the Hospital and eventually cased the law to get changed and a crack down on the lax laws.. I was not aware of anything more than a cover story for a false bio Putin place soon after birth. The is teacher is not remembering the full truth. A the wedding was in Toepka Ks and my Dad married them with member of the Black sorority form Washburn U in attendance as they stepped in to help out. I don;t want to call someone a liar, but she may remember him as a student, an the doctor may have mentioned the unusual name for a woman , but he was;t present at the birth as attending doctor. He may well have seen the birth records in the ‘out’ basket or hospital announcements to go to the state.. NO ONE Was in Hawaii. as my mother did not fly in her Chevy. Again, check the original and this is good sharing on this site and very helpful to get to the whole truth. We are all having to remember 50+ years ago. What Do I remember the most.? The anguished look of a fellow student looking my y as I tried to stop the enraged students at the Music festival of his Dad whom I; know since Boswell JR HS in Topeka Ks and knew as I fine young , Christian. who could sing a hymn for special sharing in Chorus with his great singing voice. ( once upon a time, we could share these things in school from whatever faith one might have.) There are other eyewitnesses who say Obama Sr was never seen in Hawaii, until the divorce occurred. My extended family on my Dad;side have not talked as in early 2008, our son was started to do a genealogy and found muteness over two from the same family of descendants of a hundred years ago running against each other. Palin is an Obama Relative from another line of 5 siblings who arrived in Haxtun Colorado almost a hundred years ago. She may not have known either over an estrangement early on over region. Plus many of the extended fmaily only knew the fake bio in Hawaii and not the truth from Toepka ks. is what I understand. Linda Joy Adams
You mean to say that you do not accept the combination of all of these facts? (1) a birth certificate from Hawaii, in fact the short form and long form birth certificate; (2) the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii of the facts on Obama’s birth certificate and that they had sent it to him; (3) the public Index Data file; (4) the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii at the time (and only the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the paper; and finally (5) the HIGHLY unusual event of a teacher being told that a woman named Stanley had given birth in Kapolani Hospital. Even if the doctor who told the teacher was not the delivery doctor, the fact that he told her about the birth to a woman named Stanley and she wrote home about it is surely decent confirmation of the other FOUR proofs.
Moreover, there is a birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties in Hawaii, and you have nothing but your claims of your recollections of that birth happening in Topkea.
Re: “here are other eyewitnesses who say Obama Sr was never seen in Hawaii, until the divorce occurred. ”
And we are supposed to believe these unnamed eyewitnesses, when the US government has files on when Obama senior arrived in Hawaii???
Ellen, please go away and stay away…you are nuts !!! b.o.’s so called mother and father were never married so there is no divorce !
You mean to say that you do not accept the combination of all of these facts?
As far as I am concerned I do not believe any of the so called combined facts. Nor am I fooled by a tampered BC. I am not a graphic’s artist. but when I can SEE two different fonts typed from two different machines on the same word I do not need an expert to tell me the document was altered or tampered with. You are so naïve and gullible. You only see what you want to see.
If Obama would have been a Republican I am sure you would not defend.
Apparently three sets of ecrds were filed as a famly dcreated witness protection program -fear was real thee dead and if the bodes had not washed up ater thery would have joined the rumored disappaeared. Terrible times 50+ eyars ago in some areas of this country. Thre are voluems of reocrds allover Toepka , Ks pus my mother took Ann to the hospital to hae him. I was not aware until the birther movement that the tthere were really three sets filed. The real ones are in Topeka Ks. and are miliitary records. As she was a military dependent Forget the real Staely Dunham that;s only an assmed ID. Dad;s military wasalways hush hush and fialy rumors. ( I;m careful to diffreintiate rumores form heresay and eye witness, etcetc wah that the was the one ttha spoke to Jim Gariro i on the amll in Dc i the move JFK. as it said there had of Back ops for the Rmy. All I iever knew aobut it were rumors. no one taked aobut and most probably didnt and couldn;t know. So we have three sets fo eocrds and nesppser ananoumcements, Keny, whichI assume Aobam Sr did in the agreement to marry a young pregnant girl, etc., Hawaii, woud be his granmother Tut” and then the ral ones in Topeka, I saw him soon after birth behind the counter of the catholec text book stre and warehous where Ann ived and took care of the stocking of shelves and customers. Obam Sr was not livieng with her, but she had a cover story of ; Husband willbe b home for supper’ when asked incs eimmigartion wanted to snoop. I figured out what was going on and told Mom, where;s he sleeping s there was only a twin cot in her apt. She left soon therafter and went to Mercer Isalnd. Wa.as I found out in 1/71. Noone has tlkawed for 50+ years,inside the filay or out and many didn;t know anything but the coer story.then in 2008 when our son was strting to do a eineialolgy on my Dad;s side he found real silnce wth two runnig for the sme 5 siblings that aririve din COlorqdo alsmot a hundred years. Palin is a dscendan of one sisiter of my Dad nad Obama from another. Usially over the tlast thrity years its mulitple persons on my mother;s Hunt side running and often agisnt each other. I;ve begged the birthers to go after th real reocrds from Topeka Ks to break thourgh this. These are vivil fling and the plaintiff has to being the rppfo nt like in a cimrinal case.? If Ory Tiatxz had asked for the dourt order back in 9/12 for the ks reocrs it woudl all have been over. one way or they other. Linda Joy Adams
This might fill in the blanks
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=352675898170985&set=a.287954587976450.55059.146970875408156&type=1
Threre is very little truth in the that link. There was never any mention of adoptio n as the real Dad was murderd and it s why at 7 months pregnanmy Dad arranged the marriage to Obama Sr, They had not kown each other and it was for conveneince of both. she to hae a marriage certificate and He to stay in USA> I was o not oon the internt before late 2008 and had no idea al this was going on. Then I bean trying to get some fo the birthers ato get all the roecrds out o fToepka ks and finally began bloggeing my self on my own sites of my eye witnessntetiomony. Its not bee coing out that the mian media, etc have known the trth of Toepka ks origna dn themurder of is Dad who wsaid he was a rlative of Rosa Parks and yet they had committed milion to the fake bio which the pres admitted ina clip played recently he wove a story of what he’d ben told, I knew that as of 1/71 he;d not been told as I was stopped at Mercer Island Wa from saying anything to him, but why did they continue to hid it as an adult? Linda Joy Adams
Thought some would like this. I’m so proud of these women:
http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2013/03/10/lets-talk-about-the-women-at-fox-news/
Take a look at this
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=352675898170985&set=a.287954587976450.55059.146970875408156&type=1
Amazingly detailed. Thanks for sharing. Have saved for future use. Once a fraud, always a fraud. The apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree.
especially for the TROLLS,,,ahem What we don’t know about Obama:
1.) His Parents marriage certificate is not available.
2.) Access to his grandmother in Kenya is forbidden.
3.) Record of baptism sealed.
4.) Adoption records sealed.
5.) Noelani Kindergarten records missing.
6.) U.S. Repatriation documents can’t be found.
7.) Record of name change from Soetoro to Obama not found.
8.) Punahou financial records sealed.
9.) Obama Senior divorce papers (page 11) missing.
10.) Records for all passports sealed.
11.) Records of college tuition, funds and sources sealed.
12.) SAT and LSAT test scores results sealed.
13.) Selective military service card altered.
14.) All colllege applications sealed.
15.) Occidental college transcripts hidden.
16.) Columbia University transcripts sealed.
17.) Columbia Senior thesis not released.
18.) Harvard University transcripts sealed.
19.) All scholarly articles hidden or sealed.
20.) All medical records sealed (only one page summary released).
21.) Application to Illinois bar fraudulently claims no aliases.
22.) Law practice and client and billing records sealed.
23.) Obama no longer a part of Illinois State Bar (pertinent documents unavailable)
24.) His wife not longer part of Illinois State Bar (pertinent documents unavailable)
25.) Campaign doner financial analysis records sealed.
26.) Illinois State Senator records (limited access).
27.) Illinois State Senator schedule and diaries (limited access).
28.) Schedules for trips outside of the U.S. pre 2007 sealed.
29.) List of all campaign workers who are lobbyists sealed.
30.) Multiple security numbers in question.
Much on the list I have no eye witness testimony to give on. But the marrige to Obams Sr was arranged by my Dad, Rev Tracy Hardy, Ann;s great uncle on his her Dad’s side, ( Daniel Wayne Pope, was his real name and not Stanley Dunham whose ID he stole to goto WWII and to get marreid when too young) due to the real Dad being murderd and she was 7 months pregnant, age 15; when he married them in Topeka Ks at Mc Vicar Chapel on washburn University campous with members fo the Back sorty in attendance one was the organist. He wantd to sty in the USa and they did not live toegther. Only one twin cot in her apt wither she had a live in job at the catholic text book store and warehouse on Kansas Ave I The annoucmement was in the paper so you are syayng the reason no ne has been able to help assist in getting the birth and maraige ananomcements and the articles on the three murders w hen the bodies washed up later on are missing out of every libary in the satte of Ks who usually had the Topeka Capital-Journal in the archives.? One has to go tho where it all started IN Topeka ks. I tried everything to get someone else to get the records and share them publically before I ‘stuck my nieck out’ to post what I knew,, I;ve tried to be very carelfyl What I know as eye witess, and what I was told and by who, etc. There are few eye witness info out there in all ths. and the ones that know somehting are not willing to speak out at all. I;ve tried to get them to do so. Linda Joy Adams
Tue, 1/29/13, Jerry Heinrich wrote:
Subject: Biden may be interim president by end of 2013.
VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
AP – WASHINGTON D.C.
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College … Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter…
If Biden becomes POTUS he should move his office to Comedy Central. BTW, have you noticed Biden looks like, Jeff Dunham’s Walter?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I226Sfgs0s
LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T!
Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?
While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008.
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
Re: “No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.”
Actually, it wasn’t. Pakistan was a US ally in 1981 and it was not on any US State Department “no travel list” nor did it keep US tourists from visiting, so anyone with an ordinary US tourist passport could go there, and in fact US newspapers even ran travel articles recommending visiting “scenic Lahore.”
What was the biggest economic disaster in the world? Here are some tragic events and their estimated cost.
* Titanic = $150 million
* Exxon Valdez = $2.5 billion
* Space Shuttle Columbia = $13 billion
* Chernobyl = $200 billion
* The election of Barack Obama = $6 trillion. It was clearly the biggest economic disaster in history.
Originally posted by Stephen DeNuccio of Providence, RI.
Whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii, just using a false identity, (Social Security numbers) or stealing someone elses identity should be an impeachable offense. I can not believe that he has gotten away with so much and has gained so much power that no one has been sucessful in questioning his legitimacy in SO MANY areas,
Obama WAS born in Hawaii, and what birther sites have not told you is that millions of people have errors in their Social Security numbers caused mainly by data entry errors by SS Administration clerks. That was the cause of Obama’s CT SS number, not his “stealing” it.
Since you were interested in the boycott of Fox for March 7 & 8, looks like it was a huge success. DOWN 22%. Here’s some reading for you.
BENGHAZI-TRUTH DAILY MEMO
Filed for Mon, March 11 /
Tuesday, March 12 2013 / Continuing
Bumped back to the top by request
TEA PARTY “FOX NEWS, TURN RIGHT” BOYCOTT
GIANT SUCCESS
FOX NEWS RATINGS DOWN A STAGGERING 22% FOR BOTH DAYS.
PROOF BELOW
Scroll down to the screenshots for the quick version.
UPDATE 1 (UPDATE 2 AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS ARTICLE): The Neilson ratings are in for Saturday, March 9, and by showing a general ratings drop of 21% for that day essentially confirm what we reported yesterday: The Tea Party FOX NEWS boycott slammed FOX NEWS, dropping it for those 2 days by 22%.
In all reality, this should be a monumental accomplishment covered by all media. maybe the left snarks will chide FOX it, anyway. I’m confident FOX NEWS won’t report it!
FOR MANY PEOPLE, MEDIA SILENCE AND TIMID GOP BUMBLING ON BENGHAZI IS THE LAST STRAW. The message loud and clear to FOX: “Stop screwing around and start serving your core audience, or your core audience will take their business elsewhere.”
People should also know how boycotts work. Just as boycotting a store is more than a popularity contest, the teeth of the argument lies in the downward hit on the store’s profits, boycotting a show effects what they can charge of their advertisers for air time: the better the ratings, the high the price for the time, hence the huge amounts paid to air on Super Bowl. Fox is already down 50% of it’s audience in 2 years. Can they afford another 22%, 28%, 39%, 50%? Can they charge big rates if no one watches at all? We’ll find out soon enough, I suspect, by how they respond. Hopefully they won’t just close off their ears to the audience, because that in my opinion would be quite stupid.
By the way, as reported a week ago, this boycott had the support of Tea Party leaders around the country who represent more than 700,000 people. They delivered. The drop in FOX ratings numbers, on-average, hit that number just about exactly right. Let no one tell you it was anything but true conservatives who made this happen. Not only did it work, but we have a reliable operation, now, to do it as many times as we want, provided the Tea Party leaders support the boycotts again, which seems likely, since all conservatives are simply fed up with just about everything. We thank them for their support in this; In theory, whether FOX obeys its audience or not, this is stage one in turning this country back to the right.
You can check the validity of the screenshots at this very reliable reporting site of Neilson ratings numbers:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/category/cable-news/
As always, I give you the tools to prove the facts for yourself. Here is a free online percentage calculator, but you can use any and many are readily available. Just enter the rating number from any day on any show against the March 8 Boycott day numbers for the same show and you can calculate the percentage of the ratings drop. Always a drop, the boycott day never exceeds other day ratings.
http://www.percentagecalculator.net/
SCREENSHOT 1 shows Friday, March 8, 2013, the first day of the Boycott. You will note that the numbers in this screenshot are lower and sometimes considerably lower than any others. These screenshots were not cherry-picked for effect, but to give a reasonable sampling.
(Click each image for a larger version for easier reading)
Here is the day before, Thursday, March 7. While the numbers drop across the whole day, this sample shows the prime-time ratings, where viewer numbers are strongest. The difference between Friday’s O’Reilly, Hannity and Greta (from this point onward, O, H & G) of 2,382,000, 1,633,000, 1,309,000 and Thursday’s higher 3,087,000, 2,256,000, 1,747,000 is a drop on the Friday Boycott of 22%, 38% (!)and 25%, respectively.
Here is Wed, March 6. We see the difference between Wed and Friday – Friday’s loss – is O = 28%, H = 29%, G = 23%. No, the pattern developing is not a trick of the eye, the drop on each night compared to Friday is more or less uniform except for Hannity’s Benghazi special at 38%, which we singled out particularly for the boycott, because we’re not interested in smoke and mirrors and shiny objects designed to fool the carnival suckers, we want the GD Benghazi witnesses to testify and we want them now; 6 months of Obama secrecy and game-playing is an intolerable outrage and FOX needs to do its part or prove itself irrelevant.(also, though, liberals would be less likely to watch something that upsets them like proof Obama was not a good POTUS during Benghazi, so I would split the difference between the 22% and the 38%)
Tuesday, same thing, more or less, O = 18% difference H = 24%, G = 17%
Monday, March 4, the same, O = 22%, H = 18%, G (a bad night for her regardless) = 9%
In the event that people say Fridays are different in the ratings, they can be, because it’s date night, so shows/networks with a younger audience fluctuate wildly from week to week. Not so much for FOX because people tend to turn conservative from their stupid youth; FOX’s audience skews older, and are less likely to be going out on Friday, especially with kids at home. But guess what? Comparing the previous Friday shows the day of the week makes no difference – the boycott still smacked 20% plus from the network.
O = 21%, H = 22%, G = 20%
Rewind to Tues, Feb 26. Same thing. O = 18%, H = 24%, G = 10% (another bad night for Greta generally)
You will see there is a pattern of uniformity, on-average, in the drop between all other nights and the Friday boycott ratings, averaging around a roughly 22% drop on the boycott day of Friday, March 8, 2013.
Something else to be noted is that while liberals and moderates also watch FOX, Hannity, who draws the largest proportion of conservative viewers, takes by far the biggest hit from the Friday boycott. This demonstrates, again, almost conclusively, that the ratings effect was generated by angry and dissatisfied conservatives walking away. Bear in mind, too, that liberals were trying to artificially inflate FOX’s numbers to keep FOX from becoming a greater threat by moving right, and their efforts were simply clearly overwhelmed on a massive scale.
EDIT: The ratings for Saturday, March 9 are in and proves the success; the second day of the boycott, Saturday, also showed a 21% – 22% drop on average. To any reasonable mind, this proves it: the boycott was successful beyond anyone’s wildest dreams and we can do it again and again and again until FOX gives this audience what it wants.
The week before the Boycott, prime-time
1,375,000.
A week later, On the second day of the Boycott: 1,088,000
A total loss on the 2nd day of the boycott of 287,000 viewers is a second day loss of 21%.
Do angry conservatives mean that mean Ailes was correct to steer the network to the left? No, because as the demographics show, FOX’s audience relies heavily on older viewers, and proportionately the older viewers lean way to the right.
Additional points of interest: 1. Conservatives just made it clear that they won’t hang around for FOX’s hypocritical expressions of love, coddling them superficially while knocking their teeth out on substance. 2. We’re going to keep boycotting, with longer day counts and with bigger numbers, until FOX meets our demands or conservatives realize they are happier without FOX and walk away.
Another thing FOX needs to bear in mind is that after every boycott, they are certain to lose a percentage of the audience that boycotted and lose them permanently; sampling from Facebook remarks and Tweets is that some felt a sense of relief not having to yell at a supposed friend every night for betraying them. As FOX allows this to continue by staying left their audience will shrink until, hypothetically, they are battling CNN and MSNBC for moderates and liberals, and sharing their same pathetic, sewer-drain numbers, because the conservatives will have gone, and they proportionately make up the lion’s share share of news talk generally anyway, just as talk radio is buoyed by conservatives seeking expression in a pop culture world that demeans them.
IMO FOX was quite stupid to let it go this far. Their audience now knows it has the power to make or break them, and will use legal boycotts like this last one to attempt to draw concessions, and this time we want more than the Benghazi witnesses – we also want to see Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his experts explain why a law enforcement official with the third largest constituency in the United States – 5 million people – and 30 years federal experience and 20 years serving his 5 million people found Obama’s birth certificate to be a fake (the biggest non-secret in DC); we want FOX to get active as investigative journalists making life tough for Obama the way all reporters are supposed to make life tough for politicians; complaining with patriotic fervor of things which sound good but do nothing to actually put Obama on defense is unacceptable and those days are over. As of Friday, those days are over.
For a boycott organized in a week on social media started by a handful of people from a Benghazi internet site, bolstered by the immediate support of Tea Party leaders around the country representing hundreds of thousands, to dunk FOX’s ratings by an average of a full, mind-shattering 22% across their entire broadcast day shows FOX is incomprehensibly vulnerable to the manifestations of audience dissatisfaction. My advice to FOX would be to straight up and go way right fast – really fast – because when a situation has a security level this whisper-thin, control can be lost in a heartbeat.
We Boycott again soon. In the meantime tell everyone you know this boycott was amazingly successful and send them here to see and know the results with no question about the proof whatsoever.
MESSAGE FOR FOX: IMO your audience is now organized and holds all the cards, as has been entertainment tradition for all of history and as it should be. Your audience has tasted control and success in their expression of dissatisfaction to you. In my opinion the situation is plain: Do what they want or do without them. You are the Roman Gladiators, and the crowd in the Colosseum is about to give your ideological shift to the left a colossal thumbs-down
UPDATE 2: The Tea Party made history this past week – REAL history, not screwing-around “ohhhh, Ahhhhh, isn’t that interesting?” history. With a snap of their figures the Tea Party with no central governing force, just a date set and advertised, knocked FOX NEWS’ ratings down by 22% and when the event was confirmed, in my opinion they proved themselves so brainwashed by the media that it had neither the courage, joy, or even sense of self-worth to so much as celebrate. If this is where we are headed, then this country is finished. When “great leaders” like Sarah Palin and Allen West do a fraction as much the conservatives cheer like mad because they – we – have been trained to think that only important people do important things. When the common citizens together make history themselves, they stare into space for 30 seconds and go back to their same old habits.
There is no way to win if victories are not celebrated and exploited. So far everyone seems to be waiting for someone important to tell them the good news because it’s clear they won’t believe it from me, the facts or each other. Therefore, in my opinion, get ready to get droned as a reward for your silence, because in my opinion it’s possible that, dissatisfied by not yet being able to kill people by denying them health care, Obama just wants to bomb people he does not enjoy instead – in my opinion that’s pretty apparent; he asked for permission to do it and stated he can, anyway, without permission. And when he does, you know what you will likely do if your response to the boycott is any indication? You will listen to Rush and complain anxiously to each other until the media has you trained to do nothing more about it than argue harmlessly in some little corner of the internet about the numbers of the dead and make hollow demands to “take this nation back” which have been going nowhere since the internet was first invented.
If you don’t find your guts enough to at least celebrate a victory, that’s where this nation is headed, and if that’s where this nation goes, don’t dare ever open your mouths or go online to complain about anything – not ever again – because whatever befalls you and the nation will be your own fault for not seizing the moment when you had the opportunity. You have manifestly and 100% proved you can force perhaps the largest news network in the world to tell the world what you want it to say. That isn’t theory and it’s no exaggeration at all to say that you just proved it.
You made history. Pardon me for being blunt, but get your shit together if humanly possible and run with it. Tell everyone about what you did – you took the first GIANT step to bringing the largest (depending on how you measure it) cable news network to it’s knees to do your – the audience’s – bidding, and keep shouting it until the world is talking about it, because the mainstream media, and that includes FOX, won’t say a single word about your truly amazing and historic victory. You have to say it for yourselves. Rely on it.
Fox News is still better that CNN and MSNBC!!!
Absolutely, CNN, MSNBC, etc, etc, are like reading the “National Inquisitor” on Young and the Restless! Fox still needs to be more forthright; Ailes is too worried about his lib audience, which is non-existent. They’re making a huge mistake by offending their audience. Net, net, it seems a bit more conservative since 3/8…. (wishful thinking??).
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Jenny when you read this print and take with you.
Long read, but worth the time!
MUST SEE/DOWNLOAD/SHARE BEFORE THIS IS TAKEN OFF BY FB AND OBAMA!!! THE TRUE STORY OF “BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA” REVEALED AT LAST!!!
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/07/obama-adopted-by-mk-ultra.html
OBAMA ADOPTED BY MK ULTRA?
‘Miss Dunham is making arrangements with the Salvation Army to give the baby away.’
Father spoke of having Obama adopted – The Boston Globe / Father Discussed Adoption for Obama, Records Show
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18-year-old Ann Dunham was five months pregnant. In 1961, Obama senior, 24, told immigration officials the plan was to give the baby away to the Salvation Army.
A memo written by the immigration authorities states that the baby’s parents “do not live together and Miss Dunham is making arrangements with the Salvation Army to give the baby away…
“(Obama senior) has been running around with several girls…”
Reportedly the CIA’s MK ULTRA operation likes to use unwanted children.
Reportedly Ann Dunham worked for various CIA-front organizations.
“A series of formerly Confidential CIA memoranda, dated May 15, 1972, points to the involvement of both the Defense Department’s Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA), the CIA, and the University of Hawaii in the CIA’s behavioral science program.” (Wayne Madsen: Obama’s CIA Connections,y)
The Associated Press, 4 November 2009, reported that President Barack Obama’s half brother, Mark, has written a semi-autobiographical novel.
The story describes an abusive father, based on Obama senior.Mark wrote: “My father beat my mother and my father beat me…” said Ndesandjo, whose mother, Ruth Nidesand, was Barack Obama Senior’s third wife.
his novel’s main character, Ndesandjo had an American mother who is Jewish. (Obama’s half-brother: Our father beat me – perfect MK Ultra profile) MPD (Multiple Personality Disorder) conditioning is a regimen of physical and psychological beatings, rapes and sexual molestations that give birth to a cluster of alter personalities.
Note from Rayelan:
The following article is best read at the link below. There are many photos that help illustrate what is being said. The only reason I inserted part of it in the post below is because I always fear that important articles like this will mysteriously disappear.
This article was sent to me by David Hawkins of abeldanger.net and RadioRMN fame.
David Wrote:
“Again, may be redundant but this person seems to have a solid understanding and outside expertise in mind control/programming. This article from May 2011 discusses Obama with links to Psyops. Interesting too is the time frame of Gmeiner’s (The German Wiki gives more detail on his background) efforts and Mengele’s work in the U.S. services. Frankly, these associations and extensive nature of networks with mind control agendas is nearly unbelievable, if not for the depth of information coming forth. I wonder how much was scraped from the internet in the past decade.
(Michelle’s mother, Marian Robinson, is reportedly a Pagan “Handmaiden of Santeria” in the White House.)”
http://mindcontrolblackassassins.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/president-barack-hussein-obama-the-eve-of-post-human-renaissance-cyborgs-mass-murder-mayhem-the-state-of-permanent-warfare/
Mengele’s trauma-torture based mind control research was reborn as the “Monarch Project”. The Monarch Project was a subsection of projects Bluebird, Artichoke, and Helms’ MK ULTRA. I suspect that Dr. Mengele had been Dr. Thetford’s master in Beiruit.
CIA Psychologist Dr. Thetford is also relevant in that he may have been involved in the personality development of Oprah Winfrey as a child, but he in fact developed Oprah’s most celebrated and publicized covert satanic mass mind control program, A Course in Miracles (ACIM).”[47]
Helen Schucman co-authored ACIM with Dr. Thetford. Schucman went into drug induced trances and purported to have received messages directly from Jesus Christ. The person that transcribed the messages from “Christ” was the CIA, Dr. Thetford. [48]
Oprah and her mass media alphabet OWN, (NWO) New World Order backwards, is global. This may explain why Obama and Oprah is so “buddy-buddy”, “brother-sister” on the Chicago quiet tip. They both may have come out of Dr. Thetford’s 1960 Subproject 130 of which is still highly classified and CIA-Above Top Secret stuff.
Above, recently discovered family photograph of the Dunhams during the early 1950s in Beirut, Lebanon. In 1953, Stanley Armour, Madelyn Dunham along with Ann Stanley was stationed in Beirut with Dr. Thetford, most likely than not as deep cover CIA agents.[50] Dr. Thetford’s primary research from 1950-1953 had centered on the personality development and fantasy projections of children.[51] Most likely than not, they had been clandestinely MK ULTRA briefed and trained on ultra secret projects involved in the development of cybernetic children through Wisner and Helm’s OPC of the U.S. State Department.
By 1958, Wisner had been eased out as CIA Directoriate of Plans.[52] Richard Helms took over. Helms oversaw military-oriented EMR (electromagnetic-response) research. “Cybernetics [the science of communication and control theory that is concerned with the study of automatic control systems, such as the brain and mechanical-electrical communications],” Helms admitted, Cybernetics “can be used in molding of a child’s character, the inculcation of knowledge and techniques, the amassing of experience, the establishment of social behavior patterns … all functions which can be summarized as control of the growth processes of the individual.”[53]
CIA, NASA, MK ULTRA & THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII
Lurking behind the scenes at the EWC-UH all along with Stanley Armour, Madelyn, Ann Dunham and Obama Jr. during his most impressionistic years was one of Helm’s Cyberneticist Boys, the infamous MK ULTRA British Godfather and Mind Control Expert, Dr. Gregory Bateson.
Dr. Bateson of Stanford Research Institute’s (SRI) Mental Health Research Institute (MHRI) in Menlo Park, CAwas considered one of the Godfathers of Cybernetics.[54] Dr. Bateson had also been a secret principal developer of secret Nazi (LEBENSBORN) multigenerational mind control methodologies after WWII.
In 1963, Dr. Bateson was allegedly invited by Taylor Pryor to work under cover of the Oceanic Foundation in Hawaiion cetacean and other problems of animal and human communication. Bateson remained in Hawaii working with the Culture Institute of the EWC. It was during the EWC-HU period that Bateson developed the fourth period – the new epistemology – that stems from systems and ecology.[55] Human “ecology” is a CIA code-word for behavior modification and mind control.[56]
While at EWC-UH, Bateson was also working on secret cybernetic research for the U.S. National Institute of Mental Health, a covert MK ULTRA funding institution [57] and the Wenner-Gren Foundation (Viking Fund).[58] Axel Wenner-Gren was a Swedish Nazi financier, Eugenicist (Pseudo-Race Science) and close associate of the Reichsstatthatter of Prussia, Hermann Goering.[59]
When Ann Dunham left Hawaii for Indonesia in 1965, she entered the country with Lobo Soetoro under a veil of an anthropologist. She was a math student at the HU. She earned her PhD in anthropology from HU in 1992, but posed as a trained anthropologist from 1965-1992 in Indonesia, Java, Pakistan,[60] Ghana, Nepal, Bangladesh, India, and Thailand.[61] So, who trained Ann Dunham as an anthropologist at HU or EWC prior to 1965? Dr. Gregory Bateson![62]
Additionally, Ann Dunham was an operational cyberneticist like Dr. Bateson. She was involved in helping setup microeconomic (micro financing) systems in Pakistan, India and New York for the Ford Foundation.[63] Microeconomics and microeconomic systems are forms of cybernetics.[64] Economic Cybernetics can be covertly used by old colonial powers, ruling classes, oligarchies, and the NWO to centrally control and rule nations and populations.
In fact, the EWC may have all along been the brainchild of Dr. Bateson. Among the inventory of papers he left after his death in 1980, he had maintained a file on the EWC dating back 10 (ten) years before it was officially funded by the U.S. State Department and Congress in 1959-60.[65]
During his most formative years from birth to 6 years old, Obama, Jr.’s character was essentially shaped and molded within the CIA-MK ULTRA web of his grandparents, Stanley Armour and Madelyn Dunham and HU-EWC. During Obama’s formative period, Ann Dunham had been an anthropology asset at HU-EWC. HU has been confirmed as one of Helms’ secret CIA/MK ULTRA/Cybernetic Research institutions.[66]
ARPA, HU and the “POST HUMAN RENAISSANCE DEVELOPMENT”
The Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA and DARPA) is an agency of the U.S. Department of Defense responsible for the development of new technology for use by the military. During the 1960’s, DARPA was led by behavioral psychologist, Joseph C.R. Licklier. He was among the core group of Macy Conference cyberneticists with Dr. Bateson that developed cybernetics for military-industrial applications.[67]
While heading the Command and Control Research division of ARPA in 1960, he wrote an explosive and revealing paper titled, “Man-Computer Symbiosis”:
“The hope is that, in not too many years, human brains and computing machines will be coupled together very tightly, and that the resulting partnership will think as no human brain has ever thought and process data in a way not approached by the information-handling machines we know today…That hope would take form in such later projects as DARPA’s Augmented Cognition to create soldier-computer “dyads [twofold],” and the sterile vision for a “Posthuman Renaissance,” where “there are no demarcations between bodily existence and computer simulation, between cybernetic mechanism and biological organism.” [68]
Under Licklier, ARPA disbursed millions of dollars to a wide range of computer and Artificial Intelligence research centers. APRA and NASA have been locked in partnership since the inception of NASA under SS-Sturmbannfuhrer Werner von Brun.[69]
One of its secret intelligence research centers was HU.[70]
So, it should be no surprise the area of secret research and development of APRA/NASA at HU, to create a “soldier-computer dyad where is little or no noticeable “demarcations between bodily existence and computer simulation, between cybernetic mechanism and biological organism”, a Barack Hussein Obama Cyborg.
If Stanley Armour, Madelyn and Stanley Ann Dunham were deep cover CIA agents involved in the early development stages of secret projects for MK ULTRA/ Cyborg-Mind Control Programs at HU with Psychologist Dr. William Thetford (Fantasy Perceptions in Children Studies),[71] then Obama’s admitted bizarre childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, cannot simply be dismissed as his “real father” or a “KGB handler.”
FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS, ALL IN THE COMPANY
The storyline is Stanley Armour turned Obama over to Davis at age 10 or 11 because he believed it would help his alienated grandson identify with being of mixed heritage. For seven years, Obama had a “father-son” relationship with Davis, who confessed to being an underground pedophile practicing a wide array of deviant sexual activities; voyeurism (paraphilia), exhibitionism, bisexuality, rape, sadomasochism, and bondage.[72] Davis’ most likely role in Obama’s preteen years (9-13) was as a special “MONARCH” handler and programmer most likely with specialized knowledge of Mengele and Thetford’s “Conversion Hysterics”. Davis may have been a FBI/CIA asset since 1948 in Seattle, WA starting with the Navy’s ulta secret Project CHATTER.
“MONARCH programming was a government funded mind control experiment included under the larger CIA operation MK ULTRA. Operation Monarch involved using severe electro-shock trauma, sexual abuse, and other sadistic methods designed to split the subject’s mind into alternate personalities. The methods were conducted primarily on children because they are easier to break down psychologically, due to their primitive stage of emotional and cognitive development.”[73]
Frank Davis was a MONARCH trauma abuse multiple personality disorder (MPD) layering expert in control of amassing traumatic and ritual sexual abuse experiences to overwhelm Obama’s preteen growth alternative personalities, and then program the alters with layers of Satanism and perversion.
Barack Hussein Obama II is unlike any African American that you have ever seen. He was born a MK ULTRA mold within the secret National Security State. He is an ILLUSION designed to advance its clandestine interests overseas and in the U.S of the CIA whether you want to see or not. The demarcations between those things that are human and those that are robotic and automatic programmed behavior have been carefully crafted and masked to deceive you.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
FIRST STAGE, Formative Years (From birth to 6 or 7 years old)
SPACE KIDS & MK ULTRA
Above, StanleyArmour Dunham (SAD) and Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. at Hickman Air Force Base in Hawaii. It demonstrates that SAD was slated from the very beginning to be a clandestine caretaker of an experiment, a Cyborg Human Seed.
In 1959, SAD was part of the EWC-HU’s Africa Airlift welcoming team that greeted Barack Obama, Sr. at Hawaii Airport. Beyond doubt, SAD was directly connected to the CIA’s EWC-HU Africa Airlift project.[74]
August 4, 1961, Stanley Ann Dunham (SAD1) was residing with SAD and Madelyn Dunham (MD) when Barack Hussein Obama (BHO) was born.
From 1961 until 1968, very little is known about this period other than BHO is reared in Hawaii with SAD, MD and SADI centering on EWC-HU. During this period, SAD1 becomes associated with Dr. Gregory Bateson’s expertise and cover, Anthropology (Study of Culture).
BHO recorded repressed memories, Dreams From My Father, of astronauts observed from an isolation chamber from a successful NASA Apollo splash down that couldn’t have taken place at Hickman Air Force Base in Hawaii.[75] NASA’s Apollo Pacific Ocean splashdowns began in December 1968 (Apollo 8),[76] a year after Obama moved to Jakarta, Indonesia with SAD1.
Above, BHO on the shoulders of the man with a distinctive military crew cut and a very characteristic (spaded) nose that clearly is not SAD. The mystery man has an uncanny likeness of NASA Astronaut Air Force Captain Virgil (Gus) Grissom, Master Mason, Member of Mitchell Lodge 228 of Mitchell, Indiana.[77]
If the picture was taken when Obama was three (3) years old as it has been represented between August 4, 1964-August 4, 1965, [78] the picture could have been taken within a couple months after or before Grissom’s Gemini 3 flight, March 23 -25, 1965. It was the first spacecraft to maneuver in orbit, and first manned flight of Gemini spacecraft. Gemini 3 splashdown was in the Atlantic Ocean near the Turks and Calicos Islands (UK).[79]
Gus Grissom and NASA Astronaut U.S. Navy Captain LeRoy Gordon Cooper, Jr. (33rd Degree Mason) were directly involved in a secret MK ULTRA-NASA mind control program, SPACE KIDS.[80]
On January 27, 1967, Grissom was killed in a suspicious space capsule fire. Before his body was cold, federal agents invaded his home and seized Grissom’s personal records and diary.[81]
The logical conclusion is that BHO was early top secret experimental NASA “SPACE KID” during his most formative years, and Gus Grissom had been his secret MK ULTRA handler.
SECOND STAGE: Formative Years (7-10 years old)
THE KILLING FIELD (Indonesia)
January 1, 1968, SAD1 (anthropologist) relocated to Jakarta, Indonesia with a new CIA asset husband trained at EWC-HU with BHO at 6 years old, 5-6 months enrolled in school.[82]
Above, the pagan mystic and occulted mass murderer General Suharto of Indonesia. In March 1968, CIA backed general took power and instituted a “New Order” in Indonesia.[83] The killing led by General Suharto began in October 1965 when tens of thousands of Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) cadre and supporters were rounded up at night, detained, and executed.[84]
Anti-communist youth groups were supplied with weapons by General Suharto forces and sent out to murder PKI members and supporters in thousands of towns and villages. In one area of Central Javaknown as a stronghold of the party, one-third of the population died in the massacre.[85]
In the 1990s, details of the U.S. hand in the massacre became known as several former State Department officials admitted their role publicly. Political officers at the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta handed the Indonesian army lists of PKI leaders in unions, peasant and student organizations that it had compiled. From this, Indonesian army intelligence was able to create a “shooting list” of 5,000 PKI leaders. In the weeks and months that followed, the U.S. embassy and the CIA’s intelligence directorate, Richard Helms, in Washington D.C. checked off the names as they were “eliminated.” How many people were killed by General Suharto and his butchers? Two to three million citizens were slaughtered.[86]
SAD1 Indonesian husband, Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, was an army colonel in General Suharto’s CIA-backed rank of killers.[87]
Under cover and deception of a benign anthropologist, SAD1 infiltrated indigenous groups and tribes in the countryside and islands of Indonesia to clandestinely single out and identify PKI leaders and sympathizers to be detained and liquidated (Human Terrain System).[88]
It should be crystal clear why BHO with Soetoro and SAD1 adorns the “Dead Man Rune.” During BHO’s second stage formative years in Indonesia, BHO had been conditioned and desensitized to human rights and ritualized mass murder by one of General Suharto’s butchers, his stepfather Col. Soetoro. BHO had been initiated into an Indonesian pagan ritual “DEATH CULT” with a historical human rights violation “BODY COUNT” and record of genocide.
THIRD STAGE, Preteen and Teen Years (10-17 years old)
SATANIC RITUAL SEXUAL ABUSE
In about 1971, BHO returned to Hawaii to live with SAD and MD. At ten years old, SAD turned BHO over to CIA pedophile, rapist, and exhibitionist, bisexual sadomasochist Frank Marshall Davis (FMD)[89] for satanic ritualized sexual abuse and dissociated conditioning and programming (MPD). MPD conditioning is a regimen of physical and psychological beatings, rapes and sexual molestations that give birth to a cluster of alter personalities.[90]
Above, BHO with one of his Occidental College gay rich dope fiend Pakistan roommates that he was assigned to spy on and accommodate for whatever. FMD turned BHO into a CIA MPD bisexual “honey pot” and “slave sex” manly for Middle Eastern perverts.
So, it should be no surprise that BHO has no significant background, history or relationships with women,[91] and has been linked to reports of deviant sexual activities involving: Larry Sinclair alleges drug and sex encounter with BHO in November 1998; Donald Young, gay choir director at Trinity United Church of Christ, who was murdered; Stuart Levine, Prominent GOP Fundraiser, drug and homosexual parties; Actor Kal Penn, White House Office of Public Engagement, and Rahm Emanuel & Man’s Country, a Chicago gay bath house.[92]
Obama’s obvious exaggerated African “mannish” cultural swagger is a programmed illusion and hoax to make him appear as a real “brother.” At 28 years old, it appears that BHO’s only real relationship with a woman was Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Strangely enough to add this crazy mix, Michelle’s mother, Marian Robinson, is reportedly a Pagan “Handmaiden of Santeria” in the White House.[93] In some cases, Santeria has been turned into a “Blood Oath” Cult of Satanism, human sacrifice and occulted secrecy.[94] I wonder if Michelle Robinson’s marriage to BHO was a result of a Luciferian “Blood Oath Covenant for Fame, Fortune and Power.” Who did Marian and Michelle sacrifice to Lucifer?
Fraser Robinson. In March 1991, Michelle’s father died at the age of 56 of complications from multiple sclerosis. In July 1991, Michelle leaves law firm Sidley Austin and goes to work for Chicago Mayor Richard Daley’s machine. October 18, 1992, Michelle weds BHO at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicagoon the way to the White House.[95]
This is part of the Buzz on the internet, “According to Atkinson, Marian Robinson became increasingly frustrated as her husband, Fraser Robinson, was hobbled by multiple sclerosis in the late 1980s, and turned to “Santeria in a desperate hope” to cure him. “Michelle put her foot down when she heard that her mother took her dad to ceremonies where they did spells and trances, and sacrificed animals, chickens and goats I think. But Marian was desperate and kept going anyway, even when her husband was to sick to go with her.”[96]
On election night, November 4, 2008, Michelle Obama turned a lot of heads when she made, so to say, a fashion statement, a very scary and ominous statement at Grant Park in Chicago. Michelle’s fashion statement upset a lot of people.[97]
Michelle had what appeared to be symbolic blood at her breast (Wisdom) and womb (Rebirth), a Luciferian “Blood Feast Sacrifice” out of something like the Horror Classic, “Carrie”. Below, Malia is dressed in a pool of red, the Blood Sacrifice. Sasha (Alexandra the Great) was dressed in black for a funeral, the Luciferian sacrifice.
The story is strange and unverified, but is consistent in Luciferian-Satanic MK ULTRA/MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE themes, and BHO and Michelle Obama’s timeline to the White House.
The World can see through Barack Hussein Obama. They can understand the demarcations between bodily existence and hypnotized simulation. They can clearly see what is part free godly human compassion and part programmed Luciferian “robotic” behavior. Why can’t you?
“Destroy the image and you will break the enemy.”
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[1] SF Chronicle,March 21, 1973, Black Educator’s Angry Speech, March 21, 1973, pg. 4, see also Oakland Tribune,March 21, 1973 for a water downed version of his message
[2] http://www.pum.umontreal.ca/revues/surfaces/vol4/porush.html
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War
[4] http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12266
[5]Id. At footnote 2
[6] http://novakeo.com/?p=9372
[7] http://www.globalissues.org/news/2011/03/21/8968
[8] http://articles.boston.com/2011-04-14/bostonglobe/29418371_1_rebel-stronghold-civilians-rebel-positions
[9] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2713244/posts
[10] http://www.worldinfoalert.com/2011/05/boat-of-600-libyans-sinks-after-nato.html
[11]Id.
[12] http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
[13] http://www.american-buddha.com/lit.godsbeasts.8.htm
[14] http://www.ibrattleboro.com/article.php/20060501134318876
[15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasha_(name)
[16] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr#Origin
[17] http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/beyonce-to-sasha-fierce-symolic-occult-rebirth/
[18] http://politicalvelcraft.org/2011/05/07/death-of-osama-bin-laden-trail-to-bin-laden-ended-when-his-funeral-was-announced-throughout-the-world-on-december-26-2001/
[19]Id.
[20] http://www.truthistreason.net/benazir-bhutto-bin-laden-libyan-rebels-and-lies
[21] http://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0608-BinLaden.html
[22] http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-05-02/news/29521497_1_release-photos-gruesome-photo-unidentified-man
[23] http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/04/us-binladen-photo-whitehouse-idUSTRE7436KK20110504
[24]http://www.roguegovernment.com/Announcement_of_Osama_Bin_Laden%27s_Death_Is_A_Staged_Psychological_Warfare_Operation/25594/0/13/13/Y/M.html
[25] http://forum.davidicke.com/archive/index.php/t-102736.html
[26] Id.
[27] http://www.luxefaire.com/devilvision/appxhtml/Cappendix.html
[28] http://www.reference.com/browse/cyborg
[29] http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/madsen1.1.1.html
[30] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Milo40/barack-obama-daily-mail_n_855431_86291150.html
[31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East-West_Center
[32]Id. At Footnote 34, pg. 370
[33] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA
[34] http://www.levity.com/aciddreams/samples/xmasacid.html
[35] http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/a_urantia.htm
[36] http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1651.0
[37] http://acim-archives.org/Scribes/bill_thetford_CV.html
[38] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Service_Institute
[39]Id.
[40] http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/bb088095.html
[41] http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKwisner.htm
[42] http://www.eutimes.net/2011/02/top-cia-spy-takes-over-deadly-egyptian-protests/
[43]Id. At Footnote 31
[44] http://totse2.net/totse/en/politics/central_intelligence_agency/ciamindr.html
[45] Ross, Colin, BLUEBIRD, Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personality By Psychiatrists, (2000) Manitou Communications, Inc., page 329
[46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_disorder
[47] http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=83358.0
[48]http://www.newspiritualbible.com/index6.html
[49] http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Christians_are_there_worldwide
[50] http://blacklistednews.com/?news_id=10174
[51] http://acim-archives.org/Scribes/bill_thetford_CV.html
[52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Wisner
[53] http://ce399.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/hearing-voices-by-alex-constantine-hustler-magazine-11994/
[54] http://www.streettech.com/bcp/BCPgraf/Glossary/gloss1.html
[55] http://www.gwu.edu/~asc/biographies/Bateson/bio.html
[56] http://ww.antifascistencyclop/
[57] http://www.operationmorningstar.org/british_psychiatry.htm
[58] http://piratesandrevolutionaries.blogspot.com/2009/04/bateson-and-meta-random-in-effects-of.html
[59]http://www.maebrussell.com/Plot%20Against%20The%20Peace/Plot%20Against%20The%20Peace.html
[60] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2102283/posts
[61]Id. At footnote 8
[62] http://www.hawaii.edu/malamalama/2009/01/lessons-for-president-Obama
/
[63] http://www.hawaii.edu/malamalama/2009/01/lessons-for-president-obama/
[64] http://www.asecib.ase.ro/simpozion/invitation.htm
[65]http://www.oac.cdlib.org/view?docId=kt029029gz%3Bdeveloper%3Dlocal%3Bquery%3D%3Bstyle%3Doac4%3Bdoc.view%3Dentire_text
[66] http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2010/11/403492.shtml
[67] http://www.asc-cybernetics.org/foundations/history/MacyPeople.htm
[68] http://fakeapoc.tripod.com/blog/index.blog?start=1213455899
[69] http://www.spacearium.com/filemgmt_data/files/SP-4204.pdf
[70] http://www.opinion-maker.org/2010/08/special-report-the-story-of-obama-all-in-the-company-part-ii/
[71] http://acim-archives.org/Scribes/bill_thetford_CV.html
[72] http://www.mofopolitics.com/2008/10/13/obama-mentor-was-sex-pervert-had-sex-with-children/
[73] http://satanic-abuse.blogspot.com/2009/07/false-memory-syndromeilluminati.html
[74] http://blacklistednews.com/?news_id=10174
[75] http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/familytree/545442,BSX-News-wotreedd09.stng
[76] http://www.optcorp.com/edu/articleDetailEDU.aspx?aid=2531
[77] http://www.makli.us/gus-grissom-004609/
[78] http://www.dancewithshadows.com/celebrity/barack-obama-photo-gallery-and-profile/
[79] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splashdown_(spacecraft_landing)
[80]http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/starkids/starkids16.htm
[81] http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/supressed_inventions/suppressed_inventions26.htm
[82] http://www.theobamafile.com/obamaeducation.htm
[83] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suharto#The_.22New_Order.22_.281967.E2.80.931998.29
[84] http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/07/07/suharto-monster-of-the-cia-and-u-s-empir1
[85]Id.
[86]Id.
[87] http://www.infowars.com/obama’s-cia-pedigree/
[88] http://www.rapturewatch.net/apps/forums/topics/show/4661054-obama-s-mother-worked-for-cia?page=last
[89] http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-obama-sex-perv-scandal
[90] http://satanic-abuse.blogspot.com/2009/07/ritual-sexual-abuse.html
[91] http://www.mainstreetmonroe.com/voice/topic.asp?topic_id=22992
[92] http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1433966/pg1
[93] http://www.infowars.com/voodoo-in-obamas-white-house/
[94] http://www.equip.org/articles/santeria-rapid-growth-in-urban-america
[95] http://nymag.com/news/politics/55360/
[96]Id. At footnote 78
[97] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/3388432/Michelle-Obamas-election-night-dress-upsets-Americas-fashion-crowd.html
— with The Dude.
Clock is ticking, wish it didn’t come at 11th hour. Extremely difficult to verify all these sources. Will do my best to get through it today and take that which will help the cause. TX!!
Remember Ann was age 15 in 1961, In Topeka Ks. But some of this does make sense and I have aften worndered and heard remors, etc hat part of MK Ultara was in Toepka Ks under Dr Bill Meninniger. Ther has never been really clarified why Ann was sent to stay with Fred Phelps at westboro Baptiersts and why he had care of so many teennagers older than his kids. I eocgnized some of them as egging on the gossip hater frenzy against ann and the real Dad, her boyfriend. There were some conressional hearing on this yers ago, but like so many htings, Congress never qutie got the the ;bottome of things.” I;;m gald you don;t think Davis was the Dad, ashe wasn;t. And there is a Seatlle( Mercer Island Oncnection. I was told in 1/71 when at Mercer Island QA and “Tut” brought him over to another cousin;s house where my fmily and i were for the day, that he had just arrived from Indonesia and ther was some concern over him geting confurse over ‘relgions’ and one fo the reaosns for sending him back to the USA to go to school. Daniel Wayne Pope,, my cousin, Ann;s father and the one that sotle Stanley Dunham;s id to go to WWII when too young according to an eye witness in the UU World Mag said that Dan would bring Ann to church at the Little Red Church in the early 50′s. The few eye witnesses in the media seem reliable but one has to be careful of what they ae actually witneesing. The former teacher who talked to a Hawaii Doctor, only knew the birth was in some kind of annoucmenmetn and we now no that the Fake bio put in place by his gramother, was more than a story but appaently filing some fuaudlent documents. This has been excelelent shareng on western journalsim and I appreciate them opiening this up. I realize I am coming into this yearsl late and I was reluctant to open my self up to some of the sinde remarks, iHave faced on this. I discussed this with my family before going public, and my husband was aware f what might transpire. I never thought it woudl be 9 months later and not able to get any one to speak up form Ks that knows a laot nor someon go get the avialible nesppaer archive records But Fred Phleps of Westboro Baptist was invovled in a lot more than comeng to Toepka ks to be paster of s Chuch in 1954, and few seem to still not know what I leaned andhave shared on line, carefully , what I saw and heard and the soruces. Few still don;t seem to know about his reautant at 21 st and Randolph that had the prices so high no one ate there, and they wer not prepared for customers as my Mom and I found out , et it was always open until I lieft at age 18 in 1963. I made some calls to Toepka ks and what I senses was real fear to talk, been like that for 50+ yeqrs over this. And when the 1962 c50th calss reumnion was held last fall, ( would have been the Dad;s class) it was as if he rally has been written out of history. If a classmae died, today, ther is useually some kind of memoreial made for that person. and others that have died over the years. He;s not even listed in th index of the year book., a fottball star and no picture of him in them. I;m not a iwtness to what Ann did in her adult life. after graduating Hs at Mercer sialnd in 1963 ( note someone went in on the alumi site and entered two other dates to make her look older. Linda Joy Adams
Ann Dunham was born November 29, 1942. Therefore she was 19 in 1961
Sorry, the Stanley Ann Dunham that gave birth to Pres Obama was not that old. There are w some whicitat reocrds that may be a duaghter of the real Stanley Dunham, An;;s father was born Daniel Wayne Pope and went to work in Liberal Ks one smmer as a teenager andstole The Real Stab=nley Dunham;s wallet. Thi sis all part of the misinformaiton and confusion out there. Forget the Dunhams they aren;t the fmaly. It posslbe The real stanley Dunham might hae been arelaitve of Millard Dell Poep th ehusband of my Da;s siter Heen PO. That I hae not been able to clrify. But An was my age He graduated from Capper Jtr HS in Toepka In 6/1960 I was there whem Mom registered her at Toepka k hs after she got the gdnshp apers signed over from Fred Phelps and Mom had alredy filled out the card for the tachersa as Stenly Ann Pope, We both niteiced thawhen she got the papers that it had Dunham done do for a last name and Mom said this isn;t right this is Dan Pope’s daughter. When the registrar looked or f her capper jr HS records, she looked up and grinend and siad cant locate anyhting under Pope and Ann spoke up and said they are under Dunham. You really have to foget about much of what is out there as it;s not truth and never cme form anything real or real eye witnesses. The whole story of ow Dan and Marily met, yes ther is aname switch on her, too is false The info re the stolen wallet wascame form my Aunt Hlen in fall of 633 when they were rinning around the contry with the fake bioa dn she said Dan had stolen is wallet to go to WWII when too young. The KS authroties verified all tis when trying to locate paternal realtives to g take custordy. They contacted the real Stanley Dunham and he diercted them back to Topeka, I;d kown Ann soon after she arrived in the city a coupleof years earlier and had no idea seh wasmy second cousin as she ws going by Dunham. In 1/71, at my cousin;s house at Mercer Island, Carol Intrudcued his maternal grandmother as theis is Marily , Dan;s wife and we call her “Tut” I tough at the time she meant Toot> Tut then quickly looked scared when she founf out who I was and intorducme her gradson as Barry Soetoro just arrived form Indoniesia. See the truth is so far form whats been so well spewed out for several years. Got to go back to the beginning. David Mriness admistted slast sumemr he hdhad the info I am shaing and dwent with the fake info form the Pres who didn;t know, maybe to this very date, although I;ve sent every one e-mails. I send Orly Taitz my Daily recp so she has it. There;s more to this than a birth certiifcate, mybe it is MK-Ultara and a gourp of bvery p amsart kids sent to Fred Phelps for some purpose. They were egging on the racial gossip that turned deadly. I never was told who did it.
Linda, you need to post something to back up what you say. So far what you say is all hearsay.
Eye witness testimony is not hearsay, I was there. You are all going by the fake bio put in place by his maternal grandmother. by fall of 1963. I saw the guardianship papers my mother got signed over form Fred Phelps and both of us were confused as t why the name said Stanley Ann Dunham and not Pope. Get it she graduated form Jr HS 9Th grade in 6/60, I was there when the registrar pulled them out of the drawer so she could get registered. If she had been 18, she wouldn’t have need a gdns to get registered. REMEMBEr part of the problem is this is still and open murder investigation back in Topeka, Have you ever face the wrath of Westboro Baptist, I have and wrote about it tonight on line on my sites. Before you discredit the ones telling the truth as eye witnesses, please go red some of those things You think Pres Obama tells the truth? He admitted he ‘wove a story’ back in 2004. He wasn’t told and may still not know. look up hearsay its different. Also when Mom left to take Ann t the hospital in to have him I was not in the care, but I heard my Dad make phone calls and say mom had taken her to have her baby and he;d let them know when he knew something. That’s not hearsay. You’ve all been bamboozled by the president and others that do know and always have/ 9/14/12 I published my affidavit with the sec of Ste of ks and popped it online, minus the name of the real Dad. I’ve been chastised for having some common decency about this. I am not in ks and don’t; have the mone yto travel or able to at present. No One Cares enough to solve three murders ad have some justice. This is not about the birth certificate its about three disappeared i the KS river and the miracle is their bodies washed up later and didn’t wash on out lie so many rumored ones did. Linda Joy Adams @blogger.com, face book and twitter and net log linked. in Daily recaps, I started posting on 7/26/12/ Only Chris Matthews has ever cared enough to check this out and David Mariness admitted he ad the Toepka KS info and went with the false bio from the president.
How do I know you was there???
Now they have their attention! Today is a day to celebrate. Listen to this 15 minute audio of Carl Gallups discussing meetings with Mike Zullo and VIPs in Washington on eligibility.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQCrMr2xtwU&feature=player_embedded
Here is another link for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79WjXqTn2IU
Ellen needs to confront Mike Zullo , Jerome Corsi, and the experts and set them straight with her expertise. She trumps all.
Yes, too bad she couldn’t have bought VIP ticket for the event! We now have Chris Matthews ranting about Donald Trump’s “birther” quest, them libs are in trouble. He’s such a dope, doesn’t realize it helps the cause to bring it up on MSLSD. Have a great evening. :-}
Re Sheriff Joe:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors
And it is still nutty to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough or stupid enough to send Obama’s pregnant mother on an expensive and highly risky trip abroad alone—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu,
Why is it everyone calls the Presdient a liar and yet when he told the biggest one of all ( because he did’;t know better?) of where he was born in the past, everyone follwed that instead of the truth and many have now admitted they had the info about Topeka ks where he was born at Forbes aAir force base Hospital as the newspaper annoucment read Mr and Mr Baurch Obama , baby boy at Forbes Airforce base hospital. Ann had freee medical care as a 15 year old as a military dependent. though her Dad. Orly has dropped the birth cetificate issue, its has been reported as I think she now has had to admit the truth , also Someone my have done some forgery in the campaign and that needs to be looekd at. . As for the other issues, I haver no eye witness tesstimony on that except first handt I do know the OIG law enfocement is a corrupted poltiicized mess and public monies and deaths and harms are going on daily as the nation gets robbed over it. by corrupt officilas and their govt contractors, interlocked in a massieve international cabal too big too stop? Maybe the documets will be enough to bring this to light and get some changes made wihich has bi partisan supprot growing in congress as they begain to wake up as to what has occurred over the last three decades. If Ms Taitz has discovered the Topeka records, I wish she wold share them with the world.Thne 50 Sec of States need to be ashamed for not getting the right state down. Linda Joy Adams
Obama’s birth certificate, and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, and the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 and the Hawaii teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley, all show that Obama was born in Hawaii. Oh, and the hospital, Kapiolani Hospital (which btw did exist at the time) is now saying it too.
The doctor report is not from an eyewitness) I read the Buffalo article very carefully). He only read what everyone else has read the fake bio and documents filed by his maternal grandmother. What about the birth certificate and the newspaper announcements in Toepka ks of the birth where the Pres was born, where my mother took Ann to the hospital and was present at the birth, her great aunt? You really don;t understand that the main media has bamboozled everyone and made millions of dollars form ‘ and its unconscionable they cared so little for another human being, the Pres to not confront him and ask him point blank, what about this other set of documents in Toepka ks? David Mariness admitted last summer he had the Toepka Ks info and follwoed what the pres was saying and he didn;t listen either as the pres said in a repeated clip form 2004, he took what he;d been told and wove a story. Now we have his oher thrd cousin, Palin drawn into this and I don;t think she knows she’s a thrd cousin. Her great granmother, my Dad’s sister married a reorganized LDS and her granmother;s husband wouldn;t let her assoiciate over it. Religion and politics can really divide families and then no one knows who they are. Linda Joy Adams
Re: ” What about the birth certificate and the newspaper announcements in Toepka ks of the birth where the Pres was born…”
What about them? YOU have not shown them. I have shown the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers (and I can again, if you want), and I have shown the public Index Data file (and I can again, if you want). What have you shown? Moreover, Kapiolani Hospital is now confirming that Obama was born there. And, please tell us why Republican officials in 2008 before the election of that year would lie and claim that they saw a birth certificate in Obama’s files saying on it that he was born in Honolulu, when according to you he was born in Kansas?
Please contact OUR House & Senate Judiciary Committees. They have allowed the degradation of our society resulting in the slow, painful collapse of America. They are ignoring the oath they took: “I do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States.” Tell them you will not accept their complacency.
Cong. Bob Goodlatte T: (202) 225-5431 F: (202) 225-9681
Cong. Jim Sensenbrenner T: (202) 225-5101 F: (202) 225-3190
Cong. Howard Coble T: (202) 225-3065 F: (202) 225-8611
Cong. Lamar Smith T: (202) 225-4236 F: (202) 225-8628
Cong. Steve Chabot T: (202) 225-2216 F: (202) 225-3012
Cong. Spencer Bachas T: (202) 225-4921 F: (202) 225-2082
Cong. Darrell Issa T: (202) 225-3906 F: (202) 225-3303
Cong. J. Randy Forbes T: (202) 225-6365 F: (202) 226-1170
Cong. Steve King T: (202) 225.4426 F: (202) 225-3193
Cong. Trent Franks T: (202) 225-4576 F: (202) 225-6328
Cong. Louie Gohmert T: (202) 225-3035 F: (202) 226-1230
Cong. Jim Jordan T: (202) 225-2676 F: (202) 226-0577
Cong. Ted Poe T: (202) 225-6565 F: (202) 225-5547
Cong. Jason Chaffetz T: (202) 225-7751 F: (202) 225-5629
Cong. Tom Marino T: (202) 225-3731 F: (202) 225-9594
Cong. Trey Gowdy T: (202) 225-6030 F: (202) 226-1177
Cong. Mark Amodei T: (202) 225-6155 F: (202) 225-5679
Cong. Raul Labrador T: (202) 225-6611 F: (202) 225-3029
Cong. Blake Farenthold T: (202) 225-7742 F: (202) 226-1134
Cong. George Holding T: (202) 225-3032 F: (202) 225-0181
Cong. Doug Collins T: (202) 225-9893 F: (202) 226-1224
Cong. Ron DeSantis T: (202) 225-2706 F: (202) 226-6299
Cong. Keith Rothfus T: (202) 225-2065 F: (202) 225-5709
Here is Senate Judiciary Committee, equally complacent, equally responsible.
Sen. Chuck Grassley T: (202) 224-3744 F: (202) 224-6020
Sen. Orrin Hatch T: (202) 224-5251 F: (202) 224-6331
Sen. Jeff Sessions T: (202) 224-4124 F: (202) 224-3149
Sen. Lindsey Graham T: (202) 224-5972 F: (202) 224-3808 or (202) 228-5143
Sen. John Cornyn T: (202) 224-2934 F: (202) 228-2856
Sen. Michael Lee T: (202) 224-5444 F: (202) 228-1168
Sen. Ted Cruz T: (202) 224-5922 F: (202) 228-0755
Sen. Jeff Flake T: (202) 224-4521 F: (202) 228-0515
“Contrary to the title of the video below, Attorney Orly Taitz was invited to C-PAC and made a great deal of connections there.”
http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/the-woman-who-will-not-quit/
Congress has rejected Orly’s “subpoena.”
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/03/congress-rejects-grinols-subpoenas/#more-22881
“Marine: 1980 In Hi. Obama Told Me He Was Born In Kenya And Wanted To Be President.
Published on Jun 2, 2012
Jim “Race Bannon” Bancroft- Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya – The stunning admission was made to a member of the U.S. Marine Corps, in a chance meeting in the vicinity of Kalakaua Blvd., one evening in early August of 1980.
The now, former Marine is a highly respected member of the Free-Republic online-community, and he has published the account of his personal meeting with the then Barry Soetero online at the Gathering of the Eagles Blog. After the divorce of Barry’s mother from his adopted father, Lolo Soetero, he began using the name “Barack Hussein Obama,” by which he is knows the world over, today. At the Free Republic, the ex-Marine goes by the name Race Bannon.
The crucial part of his testimony regards what he writes in his essay, “Another crappy day in paradise, or The things you see when you ain’t got a gun.” Speaking of his encounter with Soetero, Bannon writes:
He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things in an effort to be nice to him and possibly a favor. We spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it. I told him I had been to Africa , Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, “I was born there.” I told him he is not eligible to be president if that was true, but I remembered he said his mom was an American, so, maybe it was okay. But it was what I did after that makes this a true memory: I went back to the barracks and told others of this guy and suggested we all grab our photo albums and visit him again and show him pictures of Mombassa so he could see where he was from.
No one wanted to go, and at that time, my camera had failed me weeks before we hit Mombassa and it was late August or early September until I had borrowed someone else’s pictures to develop myself so I had copies of where I was. But I never forgot meeting that man for those reasons. I was going to do him a favor and show him his home country of birth. And I never went back for some reason, most likely I forgot to or just felt that a one time chance encounter would be meaningless to both of us and didn’t mean we were friends.
Bannon then closes his testimonial with the following observation:
In the light of what is called “The Birther” movement, these memories are still foremost in my mind concerning this. While I cannot swear it was Barak Obama, all the details I do remember of that chance encounter fit the profile of the man who some people claim is born in Kenya and others claim he was born in Hawaii . The man I met was about 18, thin, Mulatto, told me he was born in Mombassa, raised overseas, was living in Hawaii and hadn’t yet been to many places in the world outside of those places, mostly, hadn’t been to the mainland of America for any long time period if at all. And he openly told me he wanted to be President.
And I remember that face, the face of a young man who sat on a table to my right front, his hands resting on the edge of the table, him leaning forward, his smile, all teeth. It was Barak Obama. I don’t know if I’d bet my life on it, but I am willing to tell people openly at the risk of my ridicule. I was there, and saw him, spoke to him, and he openly told me he was born in Mombassa, Kenya, not Hawaii .
Does it matter? Of course it does. It should not have to be explained as to why it matters.
Race Bannon’s testimony is corroborative of that of two witnesses to the uncut version of the Obama vs. Keyes Senatorial Debates of 2004. The first and second testimonials of which can bre read at The Post & Email. Five African News Agencies also reported that Obama was born in Kenya.
A discussion of Bannon’s testimony can be found at Free Republic, repleate with comments by the Marine himself and other photos of himself, from his time in the U.S. Marines.”
Finally, The Post & Email has employed the modern spelling of Mombasa; but Bannon has used the former spelling.-
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The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof. (Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …
Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.
Oh, and there is this:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol …
Is that all? NO there is more.
Birthers allege that the Kenyan government has hidden all documents that prove that Obama’s mother went to Kenya. Well, that is possible, but not likely—such things tend to leak. But what about the US government? Did it hide its records too?
That is because, obviously, if a child were born in Kenya she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. We simply do not allow a child to be carried into the USA without some form of official document. (Except some are smuggled across the Mexican and Canadian borders, but Kenya does not have a land border with the USA.) And a US travel document, such as having Obama added to his mother’s US passport would have required an application for that document in the US consulate in Nairobi Kenya.
That application would have been filed in multiple files, and there would have been communication about it with Washington, so it would be difficult to be lost or scrapped. And the Bush Administration was in charge of the US State Department for eight years until early 2009, so they could have found it, and if they did they would surely have shown it, and they didn’t.
So, for the “born in Kenya” story to be true, both Kenya and the Bush Administration must be part of a plot. Hawaii too, of course, and that would include the former Republican governor of Hawaii, now running for the US Senate. And the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers that were placed by the DOH in the Hawaii newspapers (and only the DOH could put notices into the Health Bureau Statistics section of the papers) in 1961 would have to be fraudulent too.
And, heck, Kenya is about ten thousand miles from Hawaii, and the idea that Obama’s parents had that kind of money or would spend it on a trip while Obama’s mother was late in pregnancy (which was very rare in those days) and take the risk of stillbirth and Yellow Fever (which was endemic in Kenya, and a Yellow Fever shot is bad during pregnancy) is nutty in the extreme.
The bottom line: There is no proof that Obama’s mother went to Kenya and it is highly unlikely that she did. The Kenyan government and Obama’s relatives both say that he was not born there. If he were born in Kenya there would have to be US government documents saying that his family applied for a passport or a visa, and there isn’t any. There is no INS check in for Obama or his mother (which would normally have taken place in New York, since there were no direct flights, and those files are not missing), and the birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties and the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers all show that he was born in Hawaii.
Re: ” Five African News Agencies also reported that Obama was born in Kenya.”
Answer: No they didn’t.
I have wondered why Obama has stated several times he was born in Kenya. He and Michelle have said.
Kenya was his homeland.
As arrogant and egotistical as Obama is I am sure ‘IF’ he had nothing to hide he would post his documents to prove he is a legal POTUS and gloat over the fact he rubbed non believers noses into the facts. I have had people tell me other POTUS’s did not show their BC. 1) There was no reason to ask them, because there was no controversy. 2) I am sure if asked they would have been glad to present any documents that offocials asked to see.
Kenya was his homeland. Homeland refers to the place where your ancestors come from.
Obama has posted his birth certificate. As for other presidents not showing theirs, that is true. But Obama did, both the short form and the long form—what is your point?
homeland [ˈhəʊmˌlænd]
n
1. the country in which one lives or was born.
The US is my homeland because I was born in the US. My ancestors lived in France, Germany and Ireland. What would you call my homeland?
I have a Greek friend. His parents live in GHreece. They came to the US spent some time here. He was born here. His parents went back to Greece and took him with them. After he graduated he left Greece and came to the US and has lived here ever since. This is his homeland, because he was born here.
Kenya can be considered as Obama’s fatherland.
Fatherland is the nation of one’s “fathers”, “forefathers” or “patriarchs”.
As arrogant and egotistal as Obama is if he had nothing to hide he would show any documents that proved his is a legal POTUS and would rub the noses in that fact and he would thourghly gloat in doing it.
You have said said other POtUS’s did not show their records or documents. You are right. There was no reason or controversy involved for us to demand them to present their BC or college records. I am sure any of the past POTUS would provide the public with their BC or college records, if asked,because they have nothing to hide. Obama has a lot to hide.
Obama is keeping his mouth shut to protect his Marinda rights. “You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say or do may be used against you in a court of law.”
Is Israel the homeland of the Jews, even if they were not born there? (A lot of people think so.)
Is Ireland the homeland of the Irish, even if they were not born there? (A lot of people think so.)
Re: “The US is my homeland because I was born in the US.”
And, you have had the chance to look up the word. But maybe Michelle didn’t, and maybe she got it wrong (but as you can see there are some people who regard it as meaning the home of your ancestors)—so if she got it wrong, so what? Are you claiming that because she got the meaning of homeland wrong that Obama was born in Kenya?
Re: “As arrogant and egotistal as Obama is if he had nothing to hide he would show any documents that proved his is a legal POTUS and would rub the noses in that fact and he would thourghly gloat in doing it.”
Answer: That is precisely what he has done. He has shown the short form and long form birth certificates of Hawaii, and he has rubbed Trump’s nose in it.
Re: “There was no reason or controversy involved for us to demand them to present their BC or college records.”
Answer: And Obama HAS shown his BC, and that is sufficient. Who says that he has to show both his BC and his college records when, duh, the BC is the document that relates to, duh, birth.
You are right he does not have to show his BC or college records, because he has so much to hide. Why do you think he does not want us to see his college records?? I am sure you will say He does not have too. Remember he is employed by we the people therefore we have the right to demand him to show us whatever and he is obligated to comply.
BTW he has not released his real BC. Only a forgery which has been proved beyoud any doubt. that it is a fraud and a forgery! As I have said before, I am no expert, but I can see some flaws. No need to reply. I have already seen all your repeated posts.
I forgot to add people say Obama’s SSN was a mistake due to a data entry and many people have multiple SSN’s I can believe that. My question: Why is Obama using a SSN that is not his and he entered on his tax return?
I was a cook on a resturant. One busy Friday night the Feds handcuffed one of the cooks (Greek) and took him to jail because he was using two different SSN’s. Does that mean if you are POTUS you are exempt????
Re: “Why is Obama using a SSN that is not his and he entered on his tax return?”
He used it on his published tax reform before the birthers found out that it was a CT SS number. (In fact, it was from that tax return that they got his SS number to check.) Although the number was wrong, it was not illegal to use it.
When he found out that it was a wrong number—but mainly because it had been published— he stopped and got a new number and used it. He is no longer using the CT SS number as the E-Verify fail shows. The reason that it failed is that the birthers are checking the CT SS number, the one that was on the tax return, but that one has been cancelled. It no longer exists.
Re the cook. If he forged the SS number, it was illegal. But by far most wrong SS numbers and errors in the SS files are caused by data entry errors by SS clerks.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/category/social-security-numbers-2/
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/02/typographical-error/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20013733-501465.html
You’re exactly right. They’ve told so many lies they can’t keep them all straight. That’s where the teleprompter comes in. All Soebarkah has to do is read the lines. When he’s caught off guard, it’s a disaster that the media does not cover. Too, too many lies.
Got that right! Sarah Palin did not need a teleprompter at CPAC.
Yeah Ellen says O stopped using the wrong SSN when he found it was not his. Of cousre he was caught. He used it when he filed his 2012 tax return. If he had not been caught he would still be using it.
Re: ” He used it when he filed his 2012 tax return.”
Don’t you think it tends to ruin the reputation of birthers a bit when you say the SSN is on Obama’s 2012 tax return, and he—like most of us—has not even filed his 2012 tax return yet????
But, perhaps you are referring to his 2011 tax return, which as of course filed in 2012. Well, here it is, and as you can see, there is no SS number on it: http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/president_obama_complete_return_2011.pdf
As for Obama being “caught.” It is not illegal to use a SS number that was given out in error. He stopped using the old SSN and got a new one, which he has not shown publicly when the old one was published. So, why did he cancel it? Simply because when your SS number has been published it is a good idea to cancel it and get a new one because if you don’t then others could try to use it.
The tax return shown was in 2010, but it does not make a bit of difference what year it was, the fact is that he made a mistake by not redacting his SS when he placed it in the WH web, and once the number was copied by thousands of people, and they checked it against e-verify , the answer came negative. The SS he has been using since 1984 was not his, but it belonged to a russian born in 1890, by the name of Bounel. The SS number was issued in Connecticutt in 1977, when BHO was 15 and studying High School in Hawaii.
Ellen you are trying to defend the indefensible. The King is naked, and you still see him dressed in silk, what a shame.
Re: “The tax return shown was in 2010, but it does not make a bit of difference what year it was>..”
Here is Obama’s 2010 tax return, do you see a SS number on it??????
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/POTUS_taxes.pdf
Re: “The SS number was issued in Connecticutt in 1977, when BHO was 15 and studying High School in Hawaii.”
Answer it was a CT SS number, but that was due to a typographical error in the data entry. Ther are MILLIONS of them in the SS system.
Re Harrison Bounel: Bounel lived in the same location as Obama in Chicago before Obama lived there, but no proof has been given that Bounel’s SS number was the same as Obama’s because no one has shown a document with Bounel’s SS number on it.
It is not illegal to have an error or multiple errors in your SS files,and I looked at mine, and I had two (or was it three?).
Who made the mistake in placing that Social Security number, belonging to Bounel on BHO tax return, his accountant, Obama Soetoro, the guy who stole it and gave it to Obama , the Chicago Mafia, his grandmother?
Who is the culprit for such a flagrant and unexplainable mistake ?
Why did BHO signed his tax returns, if he knew there was a mistake in it, a mistake that shows him using that stolen number since 1984 ?
Obama never entered any SSN for him or Michelle. I called H&R Block and was told if you do not enter your SSN your form will be rejected. Of course it will be blamed on whoever filled out his 1040. When you have a person file your taxes you are asked for your personal. I just got off the phone with the CPA co who filled out Obama’s 1040. They told me a SSN is reqiured on a 1040 form. Give them a call.
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No I do not see a SSN for him or Michelle.
I called H&R Block and was told a person is required to enter their SSN on their 1040. If a person fails to add their SSN their form will be rejected.
BTW Ellen, I just got off the phone the CPA co. who foled Obama’s 1040 tax form. They told me a tax form would be rejected if the person did not enter their SSN. So give them a call and ask them why they did not enter his or Michelle SSN
Wineberg Solheim Howell & Shain, PC
Certified Public Accountants
180 N. LaSalle St.
Suite 2200
Chicago, IL 60601
Main Number (312) 372-0440
Fax (312) 372-8407
Email info@wshscpa.com
Re: “Who made the mistake in placing that Social Security number, belonging to Bounel on BHO tax return…”
Answer: Nobody knows Bounel’s SS number. The idea that Obama’s used Bounel’s number is a birther myth.
Obama did use a CT SS number–but that was issued to him by mistake, and it is not illegal for him to use it.
Re: “Why did BHO signed his tax returns, if he knew there was a mistake in it…”
Because, duh, he did not know that the CT SS number was a mistake at the time.
Re: “, a mistake that shows him using that stolen number since 1984 ?”
Answer: It was not stolen, it was a mistake.
Re: “No I do not see a SSN for him or Michelle.
I called H&R Block and was told a person is required to enter their SSN on their 1040. If a person fails to add their SSN their form will be rejected.”
Those are images of Obama’s tax return, not the full return. They do not show Obama’s SS numbers because if they did other people could use them. It was you, you recall, who said that Obama used an illegal SS number on first his 2012 return, then his 2011 return, then his 2010 return—but those claims were false because he did not show any number.
He does not have to show his SS number on the image of the tax return. He does have to show it to the IRS, but the image is not the document sent to the IRS.
You are right. It was me.
It was you, you recall, who said that Obama used an illegal SS number on first his 2012 return, then his 2011 return, then his 2010 return.
I said that without doing my research.
If Obama had entered his and Michele’s SSN’s the spaces would not be blank. Their SSN’s would have been blacked out with a sharpie. Call the CPA who filled out his form and ask them.
As far as I am concerned I would not trust what his CHICAGO CPA said anyway. Chicago is full of corrupt people. I am not saying they would lie. I am saying I would not believe what they say. If they were honest Obama would not have had them do their taxes.
Wineberg Solheim Howell & Shain, PC
Certified Public Accountants
180 N. LaSalle St.
Suite 2200
Chicago, IL 60601
Main Number (312) 372-0440
Fax (312) 372-8407
Email info@wshscpa.com
Re: “f Obama had entered his and Michele’s SSN’s the spaces would not be blank. Their SSN’s would have been blacked out with a sharpie. Call the CPA who filled out his form and ask them.”
There is another way to have the SSN space blank, and that is not to enter the SS number in it. In any case the SSN number is not in it, even though you claimed that it was. And it is not in it because, duh, Obama does not want to show it–and he does not have to show it on the Web image, only on the copy sent to the IRS.
YOU claimed that he was violating the law by using the CT SSN in 2010, and 2011 and even 2012 (which has not been filed yet), but you have not shown evidence of it. Do your research. What year did he show his SSN on his tax return, and was that before or after birthers pointed out that that was a CT number?
Our House and Senate Judiciary Committees were denied examination of evidence by our Justice Department. UNACCEPTABLE. Don’t accept their non-response to subpoenas. THEY WORK FOR US. Call and fax continuously. America is worth it.
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“A Letter to Michele Bachman
Posted on March 19, 2013 by jcscuba | 3 Comments
Comment by Jim Campbell, Citizen Journalist, Oath Keeper, and Patriot.
Congresswoman Michele Bachmann seems to be a woman that would be not corruptible and is doing the peoples business.
Why has she remained silent along with the rest of congress who refuse to draft impeachment documents when Obama’s impeachment is well past due?
Hello Congresswoman Bachmann,
I have been a keen supporter of yours but will not contribute another dime to your campaign until I am satisfied that you have done everything you can to support Orly Taitz’s subpoena.
I understand she is asking you to reply to a very simple question which you can answer from your knowledge and with the truth.
I am very concerned that Barack Obama was not properly vetted and he clearly is advertising an altered birth certificate, using a fraudulent selective service registration, and using a stolen Social Security Number. Please listen to Mike Zullo’s presentation on the subject. His years of dedicated work are partially summarized in a short video.
I have an expectation that after reviewing the video you will reconsider your position and actively support a congressional investigation.
If not, I expect that you answer this question for me:
IF YOU KNEW THAT BARACK OBAMA ADVERTISED A FRAUDULENT BIRTH CERTIFICATE, PRESENTED A FRAUDULENT SELECTIVE SERVICE REGISTRATION, AND USED A STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, WOULD YOU SUPPORT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION BY THE CONGRESS?
50,000 patitioners, my Tea Party group, “WE THE PEOPLE” and I are angry and need our representatives to stand up for the Truth and Constitution.
WHY ARE OUR REASONABLE CONCERNS IGNORED???
Please respond as soon as possible.”
Regards,
Ken Thompson
http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/a-letter-to-michele-bachman/
Keep this number growing Patriots. We’re at 47,842. Every signature counts and our voices will be heard. Keep visualizing Satan in handcuffs. It’ll happen. Divine intervention occurred during The Bible Sunday evening. Mark Burnett says it was not intentional by him, I say it was…but not by him.
http://www.petition2congress.com/9026/start-immediate-investigation-barack-obamas-use-forged-ids-ct-ssn/?src=widget
I signed the petition. I would not be surprised if the names of the people who signed were taken to a FEMA camp in the future.
At least we won’t go down without a fight. Save room for me neighbor :-}}
You will never see me in a FEMA camp unless they take my corpse. ~(:>D)
Aw, don’t say that. Did you get a chance to listen to Doug Vogt’s piece from 3/16? He’s amazing. Wish he had been with Orly at CPAC. He’s articulate and very easily understood…one whose credibility cannot be disputed, even by obots.
Yes I did. I agree. Of course if they are against Obama Ellen will say they are a phony or a non-expert wiith no credentials. HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Oh yes, we’re all loony birthers because we question the validity of a 100% proven forged birth certificate. Who’s the loony one?
Obama’s birth certificate is not fake. Only birther “experts” have called it fake, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
Did you see what Ellen said about Doug Vogt? Wikiellenpedia. HAHAHAHAHAHA
All they can do is discredit anyone who has cold, hard facts proving the dope is a fraud. Pretty sad they can’t think for themselves. HOWEVER, the tide is slowing turning and those with half a brain are realizing the truth. People who speak the truth don’t need cue cards for life.
Here is Doug Vogt’s own site:
http://www.vectorpub.com/Reality_Revealed.html
Re “the tide”—no it is not turning your way. When in two presidential elections you cannot convince a single member of the Electoral College to change her or his vote from Obama to McCain or from Obama to Mitt Romney or to another candidate or not to vote out of the claim that Obama was either born in a foreign country or that two citizen parents are required to be a Natural Born US citizen, you have to realize that the tide is not turning. And when the CONSERVATIVE Republican secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there, and Hawaii did so, and the Conservative Republican Secretary of State of Arizona (Sheriff Joe’s state) accepted that as proof that Obama was born there, then you have to realize that the tide is not turning.
And It is still nutty to believe that Obama’s parents were rich enough (They weren’t. His American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his mother a low level employee in a bank, and his father came on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their only daughter ALONE (since WND has proven that Obama stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) at huge expense and risk of stillbirth (and of Yellow Fever in Kenya) to a foreign country—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
HAHAHAHA You are so naive! You do not seek the truth. You look for only what you think backs what you believe.
“Accordingly, the Certification of Live Birth is consistently cited by individuals, the media and others to prove the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein OBAMA. Nonetheless, even an authenticated and genuine Certification of Live Birth is legally insufficient for the purpose of proving eligibility, as it merely represents that OBAMA’s birth record is on file in the state of Hawaii. It falls short of providing the information necessary to determine constitutional eligibility in at least two areas: it does not offer any information regarding who supplied the information, nor does it confirm the authenticity of the information provided. Again, it merely indicates that the information is “on file.” ”
Complete story:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22495
Obama’s birth certificate has the signature of a doctor in Kapiolani Hospital on it. That is who supplied the information. That is the way that birth certificates work. In addition to the birth certificate, Kapiolani Hospital is now confirming that Obama was born there.
And it is still nutty to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (and they certainly were not. His American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank in 196, and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their pregnant daughter at huge expense and high risk (stillbirths were frequent in those days) to a foreign country—-when there were fine hospitals right in Honolulu.
Kapiolani Hospital is now confirming that Obama was born there. Really?
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/apr/27/leo-berman/state-rep-leo-berman-says-kapiolani-medical-center/
BTW, Afircan is not a race. On my BC under race it says Caucasan. Not white. Not American. I see the number 9 the the end of Race of Father and Kind of Business or Industry. Do you know what the number 9 means?
I can shed some light on the “9″ – but I don’t have the source nearby to refer to, so it’s just based on my memory. Proofreaders or factcheckers or some people in the process of creating and authorizing BCs used a 9 when something was left blank. Therefore, if/when it was forged/filled in at a later date, the “9″ would still be there, indicating a forgery or editing of the document.
Yes, Kapiolani IS confirming, and has done so at least twice:
First in the centennial magazine in which it published Obama’s letter:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52083178/Kapiolani-Medical-Center-100-Years-1909-to-2009
And then in this:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiolani-confirms/
Re: “BTW, Afircan is not a race. On my BC under race it says Caucasan. Not white. Not American. ”
The answer is that in Hawaii you were allowed to enter any word or words that you wanted to describe your race. You could say “American” if you wanted, or “white” or “caucasian” or “black” or “negro” or “Japanese” or “Japanese-American” or “Chinese-American”, and one person even said that his parents put down “Italian” and Hawaii accepted it. That is because there was not any rule on what words you could use, and there was not any checklist of races.
So, since Obamas’ father could use any word that he wanted, what was a word that he was likely to use? Answer: African exchange students in the 1960s normally used “African” to describe their race. And, guess what, the government of Kenya (which did exist at the time, you know, it was called “The Kenya Colony”) used a particular word in official documents to describe the black residents of that colony. And what was that word? Answer: Africans.
Ne the penciled number 9. When entered on the line of a race, it was used for coding the entry of a race in the computer entry because, unlike the rule in Hawaii, the computer regulations had limited numbers of races that could be entered, and they were standardized. The numeral 9 meant “other, non-white.” And, you know, when someone enters “African”—not negro or black—that is the correct entry.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/indicting-the-sheriff-joe-and-the-cold-case-posse/
And, of course, it is still nutty to believe that Obama’s parents were rich enough (They weren’t. His American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his mother a low level employee in a bank, and his father came on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their only daughter ALONE (since WND has proven that Obama stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) at huge expense and risk of stillbirth (and of Yellow Fever in Kenya) to a foreign country—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
That is why O’s father was a British subject.
BTW, You still have not answered my question What has Obama done for you?.
Re: “BTW, You still have not answered my question What has Obama done for you?.”
I did not answer because it has absolutely nothing to do with the facts that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a Natural Born Citizen, which is what we were discussing.
Obama’s father was indeed a British subject when Obama was born and a Kenyan citizen when it became independent, and neither fact has any effect on Obama’s Natural Born Citizen status since the term comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth.
Boy does Sarah have spunk. It’s no wonder they trash her at every corner. She’s at 3:03.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/03/bill-oreilly-obama-hidden-college-records.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BirtherReportObamaReleaseYourRecords+%28Birther+Report%3A+Obama+Release+Your+Records%29
SATURDAY, MARCH 16, 2013
Expert Predicts Prison Time For Those Who’ve Helped Obama
“There is no greater risk to national security than having a foreign agent becoming president of the United States.”
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2013/03/expert-predicts-prison-time-for-those.html
I think that statement is backwards.. Prison Time For Those Who go against Obama!
“Doug Vogt is an expert consultant to Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio in his investigation of the identity theft and felony forgery case against Barack Obama. ”
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/markgillar/2013/03/16/expert-predicts-prison-time-for-those-whove-helped-obama
Doug Vogt claims to have found the original Altar of Abraham. (http://www.vectorpub.com/Reality_Revealed.html)
How do you know he did not find Altar of Abraham located at Mount Sinai?
If Obama was born in Hawaii why has he stated several times he was born in Kenya??? He and Michelle stated Kenya is his homeland.
Answer: Obama never said that he was born in Kenya. Homeland means a land where your ancestors came from. There are some forged videos that claim to say that he said it, but he didn’t, and his publicist made a mistake. It is still nutty to believe that Obama was born in Kenya when the Kenyan government says that he wasn’t.
Anything that goes against Obama is a mistake. ( In your mind) You said his SSN was a mistake. Then why has he been using it and entered it on his tax form? I suppose you think he made a mistake everytime he used it. You said you have 3 SSN’s. I am sure you use the correct one issued to you.
I read some interviews/articles with some top SS officials who said they’d stake their careers and reputation on the FACT that Obama has committed a federal crime regarding SSN. It’s not an accident according to them. And nobody has multiple SSN. In this article, that hi-level executive specifically stated that it’s a federal crime to have multiple SSNs. And he went into tons of details regarding how SSNs are assigned .
Also, do you find it a coincidence that the terrorist Ayres, who is said to be the ghost writer of Obama’s books, and his family financed Obama’s college education, and their family room was used to kick off Obama’s senate campaign and thus his career in politics – do you find it a surprise that, in Ayres’ book, he devotes a couple chapters to how to commit SSN fraud? I’m serious. He describes how you visit graveyards or look up death records of children, whose parents got SSNs for their children, but the kids died at birth or at a young age. And they forget about it. So nobody uses the number. And guess what? Obama’s relatives have all been caught using fraudulent SSNs. And guess what? Obama’s grandma worked in a govt job that handled SSNs.
And btw, his BC is the biggest fraudulent POS forgery I’ve ever seen! I have expertise with digital art software/scanning, etc. The damn thing had numerous fonts, background issues, stamp issues, signature issues, date issues, you name it. Everything about it was as fraudulent as if I shared a PDF of myself doing it with 10 supermodels on the hood of a Lambourghini on the island of Bora Bora (each image, of course, on a separate layer) – would you believe it? That’s how fake it is. It’s laughable.
Thank you. You will have to wait until Ellen, our blog wikiellenpedia, lets you know you are wrong. She is this blog’s expert. lol
What’s even more laughable are the mentally handicapped individuals who try to defend it. Now that’s sidespllitting humor!
When Taitz at CPAC, confronted the silence of a Breithrat panel, that was giving a conference at that Convention, on the issue of Obama’s eligibility and his fraudulent document, she was practically arrested by those fools in charge of that venerable conservative blog.
That incident tells me, that the Chicago Mafia has already suborn, either by threats or other methods, their silence, at this trascendental moment of our history.,
Their silence is so deafening that even the most illiterate of them see it. Just a matter of time we’ll all be celebrating. Remember the honorable Jesse Jackson stated “keep hope alive.”
As I stated I can believe, due to data entry mistakes, there might people who were issued multiple SSN’s. Still those people use their legal SSN. Obama was using the wrong SSN, and got caught. Some people said to me he did not know it was the wrong SSN. Plus various comments along those lines. Then he should not be POTUS. Democrats need to realize Obama promised them is smoke. What they are helping him to accomplish is going to have a negative effect on them also. It seems like they are starting to wake up. At least with gun control. Why pass something that has the potential to put their life on danger. Stop and think; if guns were outlawed and you had one you did not turn in and shot an intruder you would be the one arrested!
Re: “I read some interviews/articles with some top SS officials who said they’d stake their careers and reputation on the FACT that Obama has committed a federal crime regarding SSN. It’s not an accident according to them. And nobody has multiple SSN. In this article, that hi-level executive specifically stated that it’s a federal crime to have multiple SSNs. And he went into tons of details regarding how SSNs are assigned . ”
Please show citations for the facts that you CLAIM.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38678753/How_Many_Social_Security_Numbers_Do_You_Have
http://www.securityworldnews.com/2010/08/12/20-million-americans-have-multiple-social-security-numbers-associated-with-their-name/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20013733-501465.html
Re: “Obama was using the wrong SSN, and got caught. ”
Answer. Yes he was using the wrong SSN, but since it was caused by a data entry error, it was not illegal to do so.
Re: “Democrats need to realize Obama promised them is smoke. ”
Answer, regardless of his not fulfilling his promises (which many presidents do, btw), he was born in Hawaii and is a Natural Born US Citizen because the meaning of NBC comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth.
Don’t like gun control? Ask your legislators to vote against it. But Obama was born in Hawaii and is a Natural Born Citizen and was re-elected president on November 6, 2012.
Yes he was using the wrong SSN, but since it was caused by a data entry error, it was not illegal to do so. I wonder how long it takes to discover a data entry error. Maybe never if a SSN is not questioned. Repost the link you have from SS stating O’s SSN was a data entry error. I am sure you have it and posted it. I am not in the mood to go hunting.
Don’t like gun control? Ask your legislators to vote against it.
eal with it!” or “Sue me!” or “Too bad!” and flash his people catching smile.
I did ask legislators to vote against it. THEY VOTED AGAINST IT! They did not vote against it because we told them to vote against. They voted against it because if passed it also would effected them. There is a strong possibility their life could be put in danger.
You can bet O is making a lot of false promises to get his way. If someone complains, he will say things like: “That’s politics!” or
Re: “And btw, his BC is the biggest fraudulent POS forgery I’ve ever seen! I have expertise with digital art software/scanning, etc. The damn thing had numerous fonts, background issues,”
Obama’s birth certificate is not fake. Only birther “experts” have called it fake, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
he/she/it go pound tar, and while you’re at it join the rest of the 47%ers. You’d fit in nicely.
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Have you ever taken a look at the layers in O’s long form BC?. If you did then you saw with your own eyes all the discrepencies and yet believe it is real. Unbelievable!!! Any expert tell me it is real I would ask him why are you lying??? The evidence O’s BC is a fraud is overwhelming. If his original BC was found and proved O was born in Kansas or Kenya,I know you think that will never happen, I think you would become very distraught!
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/03/video-update-carl-gallups-talks-cpac.html
Layers are normal in PDF.
Obama’s birth certificate is not fake. Only birther “experts” have called it fake, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
And it is nutty to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii. (Oh, and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)
Your comment tells me you have not looked at the layers of O’s BC. Any person seeing O’s BC and the proof of how the BC was doctored does not need an expert to tell them it was doctored. We can see it with our own eyes. The doctoring is so very obvious and absolute!!
As far as I am concerned any expert who states O’s BC is real has either been paid or his loved ones were threathened.
How do we know they are experts? I have not seen their credentials. If we asked them to show their credentials to prove they are experts they have the right to say no I am not showing you anything.
As long as a person says O’s BC is real then you believe they are experts. The ones who say it is a proven forgery you believe they are not experts.
I asked what has O done for you, because I thought there was a reason why you are so adament at defending him. You said you did not answer it because it had nothing to do with the subject. Iknow that. The reason you did not answer is because he has done NOTHING for you! When he does it will he raise your taxse, take your guns and march your loyal butt to a FEMA camp with a smile on his face.
Re: “Your comment tells me you have not looked at the layers of O’s BC. Any person seeing O’s BC and the proof of how the BC was doctored does not need an expert to tell them it was doctored. We can see it with our own eyes. The doctoring is so very obvious and absolute!!”
Actually, what you said above is simply that you CLAIM to have seen something and you CLAIM that it is evidence of the birth certificate being “doctored.” Layers are, btw, normal in PDF. It works by using layers. You believe a birther “expert” who tells you that it doesn’t. Fine, that is your right. But the reason that RATIONAL PEOPLE do not believe those claims is that they know that they come from people who claim to be experts and have not proven it—-not one of them has ever been an expert witness in a court. And at least some of them are nuts, like the fellow who claims to have found the original Altar of Abraham (want to see his site?) and some of them are so zealous in their hatred of Obama that they claim that Obama did not attend Columbia College (despite Columbia University saying that he did).
Re: “As far as I am concerned any expert who states O’s BC is real has either been paid or his loved ones were threathened.(sic)..”
By making a statement like that you show your strong bias, since there is no proof of that claim whatever. We do know that at least one of the experts, Ivan Zatkovich, was paid by WND to publish his findings on the birth certificate, and when the expert wrote that he found no evidence that the document was forged, WND did not publish his findings. This shows bias on WND’s part. Zatkovich stands by his findings—and neither he nor any other expert that I have shown has ever said, even as a source, that they received money or were threatened by Obama supporters.
Re: “How do we know they are experts?”
Here are the credentials of some of them:
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party.
And there is Ricardo de Queiroz, one of the primary fathers of the raster graphics technology.—who also says that: “In summary I can only say I see much stronger signs of common MRC algorithmic processing of the image rather than some intentional manipulation.” (http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/09/genuine-world-class-computer-expert-evaluates-obamas-birth-certificate-pdf/)
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert.
Re: “The ones who say it is a proven forgery you believe they are not experts.”
Answer: We know that none of them are members of document forensic societies or have testified in court as qualified expert witnesses on software or computer graphics or pdf or anything. When Orly presented two of the birther “experts” in the Georgia court Judge Malihi said: “The Court finds the testimony of the witnesses, as well as the exhibits tendered, to be of little, if any, probative value, and thus wholly insufficient to support Plaintiffs’ allegations.” In other words, he did not believe them. Ann Couter and Glenn Beck and the National Review do not believe them either, nor does John McCain or Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Huckabee. The CONSERVATIVE Republican secretary of state of Arizona was asked by birthers who believed their “experts” to check on Obama’s place of birth, and he asked Hawaii to confirm the place of birth, and when it did, he believed Hawaii—-and not the birther “experts.”
Re: “I asked what has O done for you, because I thought there was a reason why you are so adament at defending him.”
Ancient history. I used to debate and argue with the flat-earth society nuts too, and the round earth has not done anything special for me. In other words, people do not have to be bribed in order to be irritated by nutty things and to show the facts that disprove them. Regardless of whether Obama had done something for me or had not, he would still have been born in Hawaii.
It remains highly irrational (to say the least) to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (and, in fact, they weren’t. His American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his mother a low level employee in a bank in 1961, and his father came on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their pregnant only daughter ALONE (since WND has proven that Obama stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) at huge expense and risk of stillbirth ( the incidence of which was high in those days, and risk of Yellow Fever in Kenya) to a foreign country—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii. (Oh, and the government of Kenya says that it investigated and that Obama was certainly not born there.)
When the lawyer for the Congressional Commitee is the one who respond to the Subpoenas, including its Republicans members, by saying that the few questions Dr. Taitz posed on the subpoena were too onerous to be answered by our representatives, you have to assume that the coverup and corruption in this case, have permeated our entire governmental institutions.
That was only one of FIVE reasons, the main ones being that the court involved lacked jurisdiction in the District of Columbia and that the “subpoena” was never properly served. .
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/03/congress-rejects-grinols-subpoenas/#more-22881
It could be, that Dr. Taitz being practically alone in this crusade, and fighting in different fronts, without much help from the close to a millon natural born lawyers that we have in the United States, that she might need some volunteer lawyers to help her out in properly serving these Subpoenas.
That could help in diminishing the probability of commiting this type of error in the future.
TA DA I agree!
All you lefties must be mighty proud.
“In preparation for US president’s Mideast visit, protestors say he is not welcome in their city, throw shoes at US diplomatic vehicle.”
“We won’t receive Obama with flowers and a red carpet,” he declared. “We will receive him with shoes. We want to tell America that we hate you and you have no place here. We don’t want to see Obama in Palestine. He is coming to save Israel. He does not have anything to offer our people.”
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Bethlehem-rioters-set-fire-to-pictures-of-Obama-306831
So?
(What gives you the idea that a US president, Republican or Democrat, would be welcomed in Palestine?)
Obama, however, was born in the USA, in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii and the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 all show, and he is a Natural Born US Citizen since the US Supreme Court ruled in the Wong Kim Ark case that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth.
“Accordingly, the Certification of Live Birth is consistently cited by individuals, the media and others to prove the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein OBAMA. Nonetheless, even an authenticated and genuine Certification of Live Birth is legally insufficient for the purpose of proving eligibility, as it merely represents that OBAMA’s birth record is on file in the state of Hawaii. It falls short of providing the information necessary to determine constitutional eligibility in at least two areas: it does not offer any information regarding who supplied the information, nor does it confirm the authenticity of the information provided. Again, it merely indicates that the information is “on file.” ”
Complete story:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22495
Obama’s birth certificate has the signature of a doctor in Kapiolani Hospital on it. That is who supplied the information. That is the way that birth certificates work. In addition to the birth certificate, Kapiolani Hospital is now confirming that Obama was born there.
And it is still irrational (to say the least) to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (and they certainly were not. His American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank in 1961, and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their pregnant daughter at huge expense and high risk (stillbirths were frequent in those days) to a foreign country—-when there were fine hospitals right in Honolulu.
The Palestinians have stated they do not want Obama there. Jimmy Carter was welcomed in Palestine. He was a Democrat. I could not find a GOP POTUS who has visited Palestine. Obama is the first POTUS, I read, the Palestinians will not welcome.
What makes you think a Republican POTUS would not be welcomed in Palestine?
That must mean that Obama is different from Jimmy Carter. No GOP POTUS has visited Palestine for the same reason that Obama is not visiting Palestine—they don’t want him to visit.
Re: “What makes you think a Republican POTUS would not be welcomed in Palestine?”
Answer: What makes you think that George W. Bush would have been welcomed in Palestine?
What makes you think Bush would not be welcomed in Palestine? Obama is the first POTUS. R or D, that I have heard Palistine open state they do not want him there.
Re: “Obama is the first POTUS. R or D, that I have heard Palistine open state they do not want him there.”
Shocking. Are you conservatives saying that the US president should be loved by the Palestinians now?
The funny part the Palestinians believe Obama is on Israel side. They should realize Obma is setting Israel to be wiped off the map. The Bible states that as long as Israel did God’s will He would protect them. As long as they do God’s will no country will destroy Israel.
“Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” or in this case Israel. Give me an “O”, give me a “B”, give me an “A” “M” “A”!
One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America
I have this on a T-shirt. In 2008 eight I would get a few thumbs during the day, but more scornful looks. Now I get a lot thumb up s, like your shirt and where can I get a shirt like that. Plus people start conversation while I am waiting in a checkout line.
Actually, I wear my Mitt hat and t-shirt and get lots of smiles. I don’t have anything with the encroacher from Kenya’s name. Hope you’ll have a burning ceremony once this has past.
Love the title. It’s no wonder 0 is trying to “repair” relationship with Netanyahu. Thinks he’s going to save him.
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2013/03/noose-tightens-for-obama-and-his-co.html
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=405187 — See Below:
“Please, tell WND we will donate to Arpaio only after we see a signed and stamped criminal complaint against Obama with “Received” stamp from the District Attorney and Attorney General
Posted on | March 20, 2013 | No Comments
I received an e-mail today from WND asking for money for attorney Larry Klayman to defend Sheriff Arpaio. My point is:
1. Arpaio collected money for over a year and never filed a criminal complaint against Obama. Please, tell WND and Arpaio “we will not donate one cent until we see a criminal complaint signed by Arpaio and stamped by the office of the District Attorney of Maricopa county and the Attorney General of AZ.” Show us the filed and stamped complaint. Otherwise there will be an incentive to drag the matter. Moreover, people who want to get rid of Arpaio, recall him, are mostly afraid that he will file a complaint against Obama. After the complaint is already filed, they no longer have an incentive to get rid of Arpaio.
Please, see an attached report from the Board of Supervisors of the Maricopa county AZ. FY2013 Maricopa County and Special Districts Adopted Budget Summary Sheriff’s department receives nearly half a billion dollars a year, a total of $495,632,204 according to the report. This is more than enough to do any investigation, particularly since all the research was already done by me and others who forwarded it to Arpaio. Obama committed a crime in AZ, he committed elections fraud, he submitted his candidacy for president, claiming that he is eligible based on forged and fraudulently obtained IDs. Arpaio not only has a right to use the resources of the Sheriff’s Department, he has duty to bring this criminal complaint, as the crime was committed in his jurisdiction.
Attorneys like myself can be attacked by some corrupt judges and the department of Justice with sanctions, as we are civil attorneys, however Arpaio has prosecutorial immunity, it is much easier for him to bring the complaint. Moreover, it is not clear, why should people donate for Larry Klayman to defend Arpaio, as Klayman is not even licensed in the state of AZ.
WND states that Klayman was hired by a group defending Arpaio. Hired as what? If he is not licensed as an attorney there, what can he do for the group? It also says that Klayman is acting in his private capacity. If he is acting in his private capacity, then he was not hired to represent others.
Bottom line: WND raised money for over a year. It is time to demand answers. Where is the stamped criminal complaint against Obama? If I and others could file complaints, and we do not have any protection, Arpaio can surely file as well. Tell Arpaio and WND: No more donations until the criminal complaint is filed.”
Excerpt from: http://www.naturalnews.com/039142_Daniel_Ellsberg_Obama_NDAA.html#ixzz2O7xWYG7m
“An impeachable offense”
Ellsberg said after he read her detailed ruling and the government’s tortured argument attempting to justify said indefinite detention as constitutional, “I felt pride as an American.”
“I thought, this is the American citizen that I fought for as a Marine. This is a constitutional order, a rule of law, a judge, appointed by Obama, who’s willing to say that her boss was mistaken in claiming that this rule is compatible with our rule of law,” he told his interviewers.
O has done so many things that not only make him eligible to be impeached, but eligible to be tried for treason and dealt with accordingly. Nothing has been done nor will anything be done.
I believe Obama has the money and power backing him so all he has to do is what he is told. I believe he will remain in charge until his big money string pulling puppet masters are finished with him then he will somehow be eliminated. Due to voter fraud placing Obama in office 2 times I am sure the Democrats will take control of Congress after the 2014 election due to voter fraud again. Then Obama will appoint his Supreme Court Justices and that will be the last nail in America’s coffin. I do not think anything or anyone can stop the Obama machine. 99% of the politicians are scared to death of Obama.
Orly Taitz on TACD Radio on March 19, 2013
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-american-complaint-department/2013/03/20/orly-taitz-on-tacd-radio
Dr. Benjamin Carson Demonstrated That the Emperor Has No Clothes
By Aaron Goldenberg on March 05, 2013
Lessons For Republican Politicians and Political Operatives
“Like the emperor in the Hans Christian Andersen fable, our modern day emperor parades before his subjects shrouded in a cloak of fantasy. He tells us the economy is “built to last” and yet it does not grow. He tells us HE “created six million new jobs” when the Bureau of Labor Statistics confirms hardly any have been created and nearly 10 million of his subjects have left the workforce.
The emperor sows the seeds of resentment by proclaiming that he wants to raise taxes on “millionaires and billionaires” and forgets to tell everyone earning a paycheck that their payroll taxes will rise. He does this, in part, to offset tax breaks for favored “millionaires and billionaires” and sweeps tax increases on health insurance, medical devices, income, investment, retirement and death under the rug.
The emperor promised that “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan, period.” Apparently, the emperor forgot to tell Universal Orlando, one of many businesses cancelling health insurance coverage for part-time workers or converting full-time staff to part-time staff to avoid the requirement of providing health insurance coverage. The emperor forgot to tell his subjects that many will be forced to ‘trade up’ to more expensive health insurance plans that include many “free” preventative services often omitted from the less expensive catastrophic health insurance plans they are currently enrolled in.
The emperor tells his subjects that “we’ve already agreed to more than $2 trillion in cuts and savings” when he knows that the inclusion of his 2009 “temporary stimulus” in the federal budget baseline is largely the reason the country is running trillion dollar annual deficits. The emperor claims to advocate a “balanced approach” to balancing the budget, yet strains to find $44 billion in spending cuts notwithstanding that his own auditor finds $125 billion in annual waste.
The emperor seeks to distract us by foisting ‘immigration reform’ to the top of the national agenda. He promises to secure our nation’s borders ‘this time’ despite testimony that “the Department of Homeland Security no longer uses control of the actual border as a measure of how well the Border Patrol is doing its job.” In fact, the emperor just busted 2000 criminal illegal aliens out of jail in an effort to “save money.”
Yet, the subjects re-elected their emperor largely because his opposition did not push back forcefully enough and expose these myths. What happens when Republicans in Congress raise taxes in the dead of night? Or when a swing state Republican governor signs the largest tax increase in his state’s history into law? Or even worse, Congressional Republicans and Republican governors across the country agree to fund a dramatic expansion of Medicaid under the emperor’s unpopular health insurance law, and a Republican United States Senator and a self-proclaimed fiscal hawk makes a campaign contribution to a liberal Democrat who supports the emperor’s legislative agenda? Republicans dilute their opposition to the emperor’s message of higher taxes, increased regulation and an ever more expansive federal government. As a result, more voters, especially those in states without clear partisan majorities, become less inclined to support Republican candidates since they do not see them supporting clearly articulated principles.
This brings us to Dr Benjamin Carson. Dr. Carson is a world renown pediatric neurosurgeon. He is not a politician or political operative. Nonetheless, the speech that he delivered to a room full of the country’s political elite received dramatic acclaim including over 500,000 views on YouTube, approximately the same number who viewed the emperor’s recent address to Congress.
In a calm and rational tone with the emperor seated two chairs to his right, Dr. Carson spoke of the dangers of moral relativism and political correctness. While the emperor speaks of throwing good money after bad in failing public school systems, he promotes his charitable foundation which builds libraries in schools that have none. He also describes the virtues of family, hard work and personal responsibility crediting all three for his resultant success. While the emperor promotes the expansion of government to ease the burdens many face in life, Dr. Carson promotes personal responsibility teaching that overcoming such obstacles makes people stronger. While the emperor promotes the dramatic growth of the welfare state through his unpopular health insurance law, He articulates the virtues and the feasibility of free market solutions. Dr. Carson admonishes the emperor for all the debt he has accumulated and reproaches the emperor for the seeds of envy that he sows. Dr. Carson expounds on the biblical origins of the fairest system of taxation, one in which everyone pays at an equal rate.
He does not claim to have all the answers and readily admits that several of his ideas might need “tweaking.” Yet, without imposing ideological rigidity or seeking to craft solutions that protect political interest groups, Dr. Carson has lowered the mask on the carnage the emperor has wreaked over the past four years. The author of a book titled “America the Beautiful: Rediscovering What Made This Nation Great” presents an optimistic and specific vision about how to restore America’s greatness. He does not seek to tear us down and divide us like the emperor, nor does he craft solutions with an eye toward being able to point fingers and ascribe blame as some political strategists do. Like a scientist and a surgeon, he seeks to solve problems and heal a nation.
Washington politicians denigrate the Tea Party movement as uncouth. Yet, it attracts millions of followers because many do not feel their voices are represented in our nation’s capital. Dr. Carson spoke to half a million of us. Imagine how many more would listen if our nation’s leaders started whistling his tune.”
I heard fron reliable sources, that the reason Hillary Clinton stopped alluding to Obama’s inegilibilty during the campaign, was not due to the fact that she found Obama’s original BC in Hawaii, but it was due to the threats the Chicago Mafia made against the Clintons’ daughter.
Sure, rational people really believe your “reliable sources.” The real reason that the Clinton’s stopped was that they investigated Obama’s place of birth and they found that there was real solid evidence that he was born in Hawaii, and on evidence whatever that he was born in a foreign country.
That should read: “NO evidence whatever that he was born in a foreign country.”
Sure Ellen, if he was born in Hawaii, why did he fraudulently had to fabricate a Birth Certificate in Adobe, and of such an amateurish quality, that the same day that it came out, experts were laughing at it, at the Usurper who ordered its fabrication, but also at the guy who produced such a low quality product.
That guy must be hiding, since Obama must be mad as hell. See the brief, affitdavits and evidence presented by Dr. Taitz in the case 12A606, now under review by SCOTUS. Go to her blog, and there you can see the evidence and the affitdavits experts presented, attesting to the fraudulent nature, of not only the Birth Certificate, but the Selective Service application, and the stolen Social Security number Barry Soetoro used as proof of citizenship. If it was not such a crime, we all be laughing, but you are laughing becuse you do not know what the hell is going on.
Re: “Sure Ellen, if he was born in Hawaii, why did he fraudulently had to fabricate a Birth Certificate in Adobe, and of such an amateurish quality, that the same day that it came out, experts were laughing at it, at the Usurper who ordered its fabrication,”
First, he really was born in Hawaii, and it is nutty to think that his relatives were rich enough or stupid enough to send their pregnant daughter to a foreign country to give birth (at risk of still birth, the incidence of which was high at the time) when there were perfectly good hospitals in Hawaii.
Second, since he was really born in Hawaii, he didn’t forge the birth certificate. HE DID NOT FORGE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Only birther “experts” have claimed that he did. The fact that they claim it does not make his birth certificate forged, and it certainly does not prove that he was born in a foreign country.
Birther “experts” have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
Re his Selective Service card being forged. YES, it was, by the birther who posted it. The person did not even claim to have gotten it from Obama or from an Obama representative.
Re: “stolen Social Security number.”
Millions of people have errors in their SS numbers and multiple SS numbers, caused MAINLY by data entry errors by Social Security administration clerks.
the forged birth cert was released by O from the white house so gosh. So ellen is must be saying someone sneaked into the white house and uploaded a pdf file onto their system and released it to the masses? wow, good thing the front door to the white house is slammed shut and locked now huh? But, to the “public” we the people who pay for the rent, utilities, their food, the chef’s, the $100,000 dog walker, and various other occupants that took it over this all just doesn’t make sense. Man the list goes on and on.
Re: “the forged birth cert was released by O from the white house so gosh. ”
IT is not forged.
Of course O’s BC is a forgery. It has been proven a forgery. The only so called proof you have posted is by comments from reporters and from people who were paid or their loved ones were threatened.
You have never posted a link that has any real proof! You believe the people who say what you want to believe. Just because a person makes a statement does not make it true,because they are a reporter, write for a newspaper, or in the Goverment.
It is plain to see the so called BC posted is a doctored forgery. People who can look at it and say it is real and has not been forged or doctored there has to be something wrong with them. Very wrong.
I do not care if a person has been a qualified graphics expert for 50 years. If he tells me O’s BC is real and not a forgery, I will call him a liar to his face. You are in the group of people who cannot and will not except the truth. You are not stupid. You have extreme tunnel vision. Take a good dose of the truth and I am sure you will be on the road to recovery. Get well soon.
Re: “Of course O’s BC is a forgery. It has been proven a forgery. ”
IF it had been “proven” a forgery, then such leaders as Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and Ann Coulter would believe that it was a forgery. But they don’t so obviously it was not proven.
Re: “Just because a person makes a statement does not make it true…”
Answer: You are absolutely and totally right. Just because a birther “expert” makes a statement does not make it true.
Re: “It is plain to see the so called BC posted is a doctored forgery..”
Answer: It is not plain to me that it is a doctored forgery and it is not plain to Ann Coulter or the National Review.
Re: ” People who can look at it and say it is real and has not been forged or doctored there has to be something wrong with them. Very wrong.”
Answer: People who can look at it and say it is FALSE and that it has been forged or doctored there has to be something wrong with them. Very wrong. (It is known as LYING)
Re: “I do not care if a person has been a qualified graphics expert for 50 years. If he tells me O’s BC is real and not a forgery, I will call him a liar to his face.”
Answer: I do not post for your benefit but for any rational person who may be visiting this site and seeking the facts.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/ame-o-ospit-or-nstitution-not-in-ospit/
It is a FACT that birther sites have never reported the comments of the following experts:
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
I hope you get well soon.
There is nothing sick in showing the facts, as I have. What is sick is denying the facts.
Hawaii Elections Clerk Tim Adams Says There is No Obama Birth Certificate from Hawaii
BBCW ^ | 3 March 2012 | Bungalow Bill
Posted on 3/3/2012 10:02:42 AM by Erik Latranyi
Just a day after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Apaio presented proof the birth certificate presented by Barack Obama as proof he meets Constitutional eligibility to be president is a fraud, we have a story coming out of Hawaii that may provide problems for Obama.
Jerome Corsi writes:
Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.
“During the course of my employment,” Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), “I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate.”
As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.
“Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health,” Adams’ affidavit reads, “and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”
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http://www.presidentialfield.com/content/hawaii-official-now-swears-no-obama-birth-certificate
Short excerpt below:
“In the affidavit Adams swears, “During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth.”
Adams further swears his supervisors told him to quit asking about Obama’s birth records.”
ellen
Neither Rubio or Jindal are presidents, read the SCOTUS Opinion from 1875, Minor v Happersett, and you would find there, the definition of what a natural born citizen means.
If all the founding Fathers wanted was a citizen, they could have left the natural born out of Article II of the Constitution that deals with the prerequisites to be president, and by the way, that is the only office that has that requirement in the entire Constitution. It is not specified for Senators, Congressman or Cabinet members, why do you think that is ?
Do not ofuscate the matter any further, it is as clear a sunny day.
By the way, Rubio is not a natural born citizen, his parents were not citizens when he was born, so he cannot aspire to the presidency.
Yes, you are right. Rubio is a citizen not a natural born citizen.
bobmann101
Your recently found legalistic insight, about Rubio’s lack of eligibility to aspire to the presidency, by not being a ‘natural born citizen’, is a shame you did not show such forcefull opinion when BHO ran in 2008.
Just four years earlier, in the Democratic National Convention, he proudly told the whole nation his father was a British subject born in Kenya, and neither you, SCOTUS, Congress, the Electoral College or the million lawyers we waste in having in this United States, raised an objection, about the ineligibility of the Usurper-in-Chief, to even aspire to the presidency.
I guess with the dumbing down of our country, brought about by our educational system, not a single person knew in 2008, that what BHO admitted in 2004, was a primae fascia evidence that he did not meet the requirements of the Constitution, but I guess it is better late than never.
However, SCOTUS, where it reside the High Priests that interpret the Constitution, did not raised the issue in 2008, but instead, twice denied Certoriari to Dr. Taitz, an immigrant lawyer, who was already in the trail of the usurper and his fraudulent documents.
Even if Obama finish his term, I believe Elms trees would sprout apples, before another usurper is able to reach the presidency withot first been thoroughfully vetted.
Kudos to you. A very good post. You are right. I enjoying seeing/reading intelligently written posts. It’s too bad journalism in USA no longer informs/educates like people like you (and I) do. We’re surrounded by BS, spin, and downright lies – from media, from politicians, from everyone. I wish I had friends like some of the people I read online. My friends are mostly liberal idiots. I live in Michigan. I do have some friends/family who are conservative, but overall, I’m surrounded. And what is Michigan today, will be the country “tomorrow.” Detroit is what the country will be after a few more terms of democrats! A cesspool of corruption, unlimited crime, 3rd world poverty, welfare, welfare fraud, govt fraud, everything you’ve heard and more. Detroit’s governor is finally going to prison – in my opinion, he should be dragged behind a car, brought into the town square, and hung, shot, and burned. He’s a corrupt SOB. He and his whole family! All a bunch of democrat corrupt crooks. Have you ever seen footage of a Detroit city council meeting? It’s like a black version of Jerry Springer, where everyone is throwing chairs, swearing at each other, and no one can construct a single grammatically correct sentence! Every single one of the people on the council is incapable of balancing a checking, building a spreadsheet, or having a rational thought. These people probably have negative IQs. And all of them have criminal records.
Ahhh, have I shared enough? It’s all true. Mark my words.
You stated: is a shame you did not show such forcefull opinion when BHO ran in 2008. I have no idea where you got that idea! We so not know each other. I wrote letters sent mails and faxes asking about his not being vetted and his non eligilibty. In fact my roommate moved out because he was black and he told me he never thought I was a racist, but he then saw my true colors.But that is another story. I posted my complaints on Facebook My sister-in-law, who is die hard Democrat, saw my posts and after bantering back and forth she told Obama would be make a great POTUS and for me not to contact her any more.
I have and will continue to bug politicians many times per week. I am retired and I have the time. I have the the fax number for every person who has their’s posted I have a printer and a fax machine and both get a workout.
So Francisco what did you do when O ran in 2008?
I applaud/commend you/your efforts. If you lived near me, I would want to be your friend (not a facebook friend, but a real friend). Nobody around me (besides my parents and sister) shares my political views. I’m an island, surrounded my Michigan (liberal) morons. It’s really disappointing. Sad. Detroit is what the country will be like in another couple years. I don’t live in Detroit, but in the suburbs. Detroit is run by corrupt democraps. I wish they were all put in jail or put to death. Corrupt SOBs.
My roommate had a friend of his go back home to Detroit. He said Detroit was liked like Beirut. Houses boarded up weeds overtaking the yards, but dowtown was in good shape. He said he could not believe how much worse it has gotten. He said the young were moving to the city. He said they are now leaving the state.
What I do not understand is Detroit has potential. There must be a reason they have not looked into it.
The Blue Water Bridge in Port Huron and Ambassador Bridge in Detroit are the two busiest US-Canadian border crossings. Through these, Michigan has access to the Halifax Deep Water Port and three other deep water ports along the St. Clair River at the Canadian border crossing. I can’t remember their names. I think the Canadian National Railway flows right into Port Huron. Detroit could the next big North American transportation and logistics hub if persued.
I am sorry to hear you live in the suburbs. You deserve better. Save your money and buy property every chance you get. Contact your Mayor or Govenora and give him some input. Can’t lose something you haven’t got. In fact you could end up being a millionaire.
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bobmann101
Once I became aware of whose Obama’s friends were; his pastor, that Frank Marshall Davis was his political mentor and maybe his father, that in Chicago he belonged to ACORN as a Community Agitator, a devout follower of Saul Alinsky, member of the DSP, and ran under that socialist banner, I told my wife, my daughters and my grandson that I thought BHO was probably a communist, and at best a socialist, and we all voted for MacCain in 2008.
Not watching the Democratic Convention, or being unaware that his ‘father’, BHO Sr. was not a citizen at the time of his birth, but later upon finding out that he was just born in Kenya, I presumed he was a naturalized citizen. As things unfolded between 2009 to 2012, the additional information we received made aware of his ineligibility. But that is not the point, I am an engineer by training, not a lawyer, judge, politician, Electoral College elector, or member of the Supreme Court, so my responsibility in the matter of the ascencion to the throne of BHO, is minimal, as compared to those who are sworn to guard and defend our constitution. So as far as I am concerned, those are the people to whom you should submit your impertinent question, as to what they did in 2007 to prevent this perversion from occuring.
As Bob mentioned his mentors, he visits Israel and spews the hate of communist gangster Alinsky with no trepidation. How can anyone with any intelligence be proud of that? It really is beyond comprehension.
Always Right
Thank you for the words of support, but I do not deserve them. You as a young person, which represent the future of this republic, is the one that merit praise from this old man, who had suffered the communist doctrine, and its imposition in my country of birth, and know a communist when I hear ten words coming out of his mouth.
You on the other hand, have already suffered the indoctrination under our present public school system, and having reached the level of awareness as to the danger BHO represents to this republic of ours, gives us hope that all is not lost in this great land of liberty, which your ancestors left you to cherish and nurture. I know, by the ideals you possess, of the awarenes you have of the blessings that you have had, by just being born in these United States of America, so it is your generation, that would have the honor to pick that banner of Liberty, and to never allowed it to be trampled by any demagogue that does not believe in our Constitution, or even respect it, by usurping by fraudulent methods, the sacred honor of being the president of this Republic.
For those who would like to do some research on the subject, here are some links:
http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/the-natural-born-citizenship-clause-updated.html
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/#nbc
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/01/natural-born-citizenship-for-dummies/
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/02/an-open-letter-to-mario-apuzzo/
http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=21346
“Rick Ungar at Forbes is an idiot. He either shows he has no skills at research or he is an outright liar. I would say it is a little bit of both.” See full story below:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/03/rick-ungar-at-forbes-is-a-liar.html
John C. Drew, Ph.D. is an award-winning political scientist wrote:
“Obama Fail: Media Dumbfounded by Obama’s Lies About His Kenyan Birth
I have been thinking that if Obama had a son, he would tell him to pretend to be born in Kenya too.
All in all, it is really strange to read the dysfunctional liberal group think in the mainstream media when it comes to the news that Obama’s book agent promoted him by saying he was born in Kenya. It is unthinkable that this copy was not run by Obama for approval. That’s not how that book agent business works.
We know, as a matter of fact, that liberals like Elizabeth Warren lie about their ethnic status to get ahead in the world of academic affirmative action. It is not surprising that Obama did the same by touting his supposed Kenyan birthplace. This latest story is a great confirmation about a long-standing pattern in Obama’s life – lying about his past.
For the record, Obama lied about the closeness of his relationship with Bill Ayers. He lied about listening to Rev. Wright’s extremist, anti-white hate speech. Obama lied about his political views at Occidental College hiding the fact that he was an out and out Marxist-Leninist when I met him in 1980. Obama lied in Dreams about seeing an article about a black man who had bleached his own skin. Obama lied in Dreams about his “composite” girlfriend, Geneveive Cook. He lied about her background, her ties to Indonesia, her Australian heritage – even the color of her eyes. Obama lied about Cook breaking into tears because she could never be black.
Obama is a serial liar. He hid his intense relationship with convicted felon Anthony Rezko until FBI surveillance revealed the full extent of this relationship. Obama does not have the integrity needed to succeed as president. Those who justify his lying about his Kenyan birth are defending a man who is not worthy of their time and attention.”
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2013/03/who-says-obama-wasnt-born-in-kenyaprove.html
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Arpaio Recall Challenge Spurs National Battle Of Birther Heavyweights; Some Upset Arpaio Has Not Filed Criminal Complaint Vs. Obama
Posted by By GeorgeM at 21 March, at 01 : 23 AM Print
“Looks like AZ Politics is stirring the pot on the Arpaio recall and Taitz inserting herself into the effort.
Arpaio Recall Challenge Spurs National Battle Of Birther Heavyweights; Some Upset Arpaio Has Not Filed Criminal Complaint Vs. Obama
The attorney ready to file a lawsuit against those in charge of the effort to recall Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio made a national appeal for funding today, sparking a protest by well-known Obama Birther attorney Orly Taitz. Taitz urged birthers not to support the pro-Arpaio effort until the Sheriff files criminal charges against President Barack Obama.Local group Citizens To Protect Fair Election Results (“CPFER”) hired nationally-known attorney Larry Klayman to issue a legal challenge to the recall committee, Respect Arizona (“RA”). Klayman told Arizona’s Politics on Monday that he would file a legal action on Thursday challenging the recall’s constitutionality if RA did not withdraw.Today, he sent out a fundraising e-mailthrough the national conservative website WND.com (formerly World Net Daily), along with a donations page on WND’s SuperStore.
Klayman’s fundraising appeal got the attention of birther attorney Orly Taitz, and she was not happy. She took to her website to blast WND and Arpaio. WND was a primary backer (media and fundraising) of the Sheriff’s Posse’s investigation into the President’s birth certificate. Today, Taitz writes: ”Arpaio collected money for over a year and never filed a criminal complaint against Obama. Please, tell WND and Arpaio “we will not donate one cent until we see a criminal complaint signed by Arpaio and stamped by the office of the District Attorney of Maricopa county and the Attorney General of AZ.” ”
Taitz goes on to claim that the primary reason people are pushing the Arpaio recall is that they are afraid that the Sheriff will actually go after the President, and that Arpaio has every right and reason to use taxpayer monies to pursue a criminal complaint (based on the information that she gathered and forwarded to Arpaio).
Taitz also took a few shots at Klayman, noting that he is not licensed to practice law in Arizona and will not be able to file suit against RA.
The Taitz blast is the first sign that Arizona’s Politics has seen that some birthers have lost patience with Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse. Not coincidentally, the leaders of the Surprise Tea Party Patriots who have been instrumental in the Cold Case Posse investigation into the birth certificate are also leading CPFER.”
http://obamaballotchallenge.com/arpaio-recall-challenge-spurs-national-battle-of-birther-heavyweights-some-upset-arpaio-has-not-filed-criminal-complaint-vs-obama
A must see my friends. Now we pray for national coverage!
CBS – LOCAL STATION IN ARIZONA – OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE FAKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh37rWmUL9Q&list=FLDnRrMHTRco0ZOSkeCm4gSA
FYI, Senator Jeff Flake, who was contacted by CBS Phoenix stated he thought the “squatter-in-chief” (my words) was born in the U.S. These cowardly politicians are a disgrace to this nation. You can contact CBS Phoenix with your comments, feel free!!! Here ya go ~> http://www.kpho.com/category/212760/contact-us
(Part 2 of 2)
I never thought in my lifetime or in future lifetimes of my children or their children that our government would be headed by a POTUS that could not pass any standard checks and balances of his person. To even think about the fact he isn’t even a vetted POTUS and has been trying to run this country in a dictatorial fashion is even more disturbing. But, he never I am sure expected to NOT be able to overthrow our Constitution and we the people that are fighting so hard to stop him to save our beloved country these last four years. Now, he has slammed the front door of the house that we the people pay for his food and rent and wow now that’s quite a statement and in our faces. In other words it is an adult temper tantrum in my opinion.
I have observed many articles about the attempts to convince the multitude (including Christians) that gayism, abortions of (50) million innocent baby’s, the morning after pills, trying to change the union/marriage between one man and one woman to people of like sexes, to eliminate Christianity and all that it stands for. To try to instill, socialism, marxism, etc. in we the people, our government and our daily life’s. To go against God, the Bible, and Jerusalem at their DNC was a shocker but understandable based on their godless doctrines. Trying to change our American flag of all things.
It does seem like all hope is lost at this point from local State offices, court systems all the way up to and including the SCOTUS as well. But you know what? You are a David, so is Sheriff Arpaio and the people that are of like mind are as well!!! Yup, and remember he was challenged to take out Goliath and all he had was a rock and a sling shot and he did it. If our government had it’s way that is all we would have left is a rock and a slingshot, but, because the people still have guns left, they are an apparent threat to the current regime. So, your rock and sling shot is Sheriff Arpaio and your strength is what’s in your gut and heart that this situation that our country is facing is detrimental to it’s survival and it’s continued existence the way our forefathers originally established it to be.
We the people are experiencing a wake up call and even though the battle seems all uphill and we stumble or fall (as has been said before) we still need to believe that this battle is worth fighting for. Our country, the United States of America is hated and loved, yet millions of people worldwide want to live here. Our country feeds millions and millions of people worldwide, we have fought wars all over this world and our military has died on many foreign soils to help others that are so repressed by dictator’s and now we are in the same boat as they have been in, and oddly now they are dying onshore. This didn’t just happen overnight it has been ongoing for decades. It’s called adverse and greed. It’s called jealousy and hate. It’s called control by the elite, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. So many names come to mind. But the bottom line is, if we the people want to save our country we need not stand down, but STAND UP. Which you are doing Brian along with Sheriff Arpaio and so many others.
Keep the faith, pray for our country’s survival and we all need to stand on our faith and know and believe that this is all happening for a reason and a “season.” President’s, dictator’s, rogue governments and the like through history have all come and gone. Some are remembered for the good they did, and some are not, and some, well let’s put it this way we wished they would have never appeared. If you want something bad enough, think about it, speak it or write about it, and then sometimes it appears in your reality, as long as it is a blessing and for the good of ALL. Always ask God to show you the way and to give you strength to the end. Amen to that for sure. I apologize for the length of this blog and I am only voicing my opinion which “today” I understand I still have that right to do so because I AM an AMERICAN who loves God and my Country.
Love your writing, just beautiful. “Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.” ~Philippians 4:6
Excerpt from Guidepost April 2013, Page 36, A Man of Prayer, Norman Vincent Peale: “Don’t let your dark thoughts or fears strangle you, but share them with someone else. Then let them go and trust GOD.”
Thank YOU for sharing yours.
LOLOL Jenny_CW you think I am anxious…me anxious??? Well just a bit especially when I see half truths flying in the winds around here. It’s like so much is out of control in our country and yup when one is not in control of any of it, then for sure one could feel anxious at times. I know take a deeeeep breath and step back. LOLOL most of all PRAY on it, put it in God’s hands and stand on the truth. It sadden’s me deeply to see these “obots” that are blind in one eye and can’t see out of the other OR, deaf in one ear and can’t hear out of the other. But hey makes life interesting for sure.
“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. It is “impossible” to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.
by George Washington.
Success is failure turned insideout…boy I own that for sure LOLOL love it. God bless Jenny_CW
Understand fully. I wrote those words for me as much as for you. Empathy is one of the greatest character flaws of a Conservative. All we want is to make it right again. We deserve that much. It will never be right with leadership who condones and practices the teachings of madmen. God Help Us and Blessings to you as well!
Re Sheriff Joe:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors
….and 250 million firearms protected by the 2nd amendment…plus, I pray, enough true patriot veterans who will live up to their oath……..
Lets git er done
With the volume of misinformation she brings here, and the time our friend Ellen spends trying to defend the Usurper-in-Chief, we might be able to conclude that she voted for Barack Hussein in 2008 and 2012, and that she might even be living in the White House at this moment.
Could she be Mrs. Robinson, Obama’s mother in law ?
Re: “Could she be Mrs. Robinson, Obama’s mother in law ?”
No I am not, and I am also not the Washington Monument.
How I voted, or your voted, has no effect on the facts.
And it still is highly irrational (to say the least) to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (They weren’t. His American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his mother a low level employee in a bank in 1961, and his father came on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their pregnant only daughter ALONE (since WND has proven that Obama stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) at huge expense and risk of stillbirth (and of Yellow Fever in Kenya) to a foreign country—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii. (Oh, and the government of Kenya says that it investigated and that Obama was certainly not born there.)
The Four Candles
http://www.openmyeyeslord.net/thefourcandles.htm
Cold Case Posse’s Brian Reilly Details New Plan
Sheriff Arpaio, Brian Reilly & Mike Zullo
Excerpt: (March-19-13) “My contention is that there is now only one appropriate place to go with probable cause that crimes have been committed, and that is to the United States Congress.
I believe that the time is appropriate for Sheriff Arpaio to mail 435 certified letters to every member of the House of Representatives, demanding in no uncertain terms, that President Obama, as the direct beneficiary of alleged, criminally forged identification documents should now be Impeached for “high Crimes and Misdemeanors” under Article II, Section 4 of the United States Constitution.” — Bill Reilly CCP member [link]
I agree. If sheriff Joe is taken out the Mexican drug cartel will get the blame if someone beats them to it. If the House started impeachment, O’s lawyers would drag it out for many years wasting more taxpayer dollars. When it is all over the Senate would not approve it.
Due to voter fraud placing Obama in office 2 times I am sure the Democrats will take control of Congress after the 2014 election due to voter fraud again. Then Obama will appoint his Supreme Court Justices and that will be the last nail in America’s coffin. I do not think anything or anyone can stop the Obama machine. 99% of the politicians are scared to death of Obama
Re Sheriff Joe:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors
This is ludicrous, why won;t the birthers go get the Toepka ks records? Will it make their mission, irrelevant? And as for other documents, there needs to be a full investigation by Congress of a very broken Office of inspector general system that would allow any of the crimes and abuses go uninvestigated over the years. In the President;sv case, is al this is true about ssn;s etc,. then it far past the time to prosecute him. Pres Clinton;s perjury issue was a current case, not something in the past beyond the stature of limitations and . Orly Taitz has been able to end this since 9/22/12 and she didn’t ask fro the court order for the Toepka Ks birth certificate. The US senate is at fault for accepting an application for running for the Senate in 2004 and not double checking the applications. which are filled with them when one chooses to run for US Senator. Sheriff Joe gave up as he wouldn’t go to Toepka ks, why? What is the cover up in Kansas?. A former Republican Sec of State and current one, Kris Kobach who won;t admit they didn’t locate the records years ago when Pres Obama;s atty;s followed leads and clerks didn’t know to check an u off line system for a closed military hospital, Forbes Air Force bass where my mother took Ann, his mother to have him and was present at birth. Why won;t any one go check the newspaper archives for the birth announcement which was in the paper as my parents kept saying Obama and I Didn’t understand how to spell the name. Then there is the wedding announcement in the paper a couple of months before birth and later on he murder of his Dad articles .I;m thoroughly disgusted with those who have made millions off of a baby that wasn’t told the truth of his origins and should have been. Its not been easy coming forward as most eye witnesses are not appreciated by these folks. Its time for whole truth and some may not like what they find, so be it! He;s always been eligible, and the emphasis should have been on character and politics It beyond comprehension hat 9 months after I went public on my own sites, no one in the whole state of Kansas has been willing to assist and that includes the Toepka Capital Journal that has forbidden ther reporters to even check archives for the records. That;s the real cover up. What;s the matter? Someone who murdered the Pres; Dad and two others still at large and in charge? . REMEMBER: This Is an open murder investigation from 50+ years ago. Linda Joy Adams
Linda, did you see this yet? ~> http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/03/sheriff-joe-may-investigate-obama-cousin.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
In part: “The purported cousin in question is named Linda Joy Adams. Her blog is located here. She has been posting comments all over the place regarding Obama’s past for a long time. She claims to have birth announcements and other evidence that shows Obama was born at Forbes Air Force base in Topeka, Kansas. Carl Gallups mentions the Adams story towards the end of the video. Aired on WEBY.”
If this fraud ever breaks the censure of the national media, and Obama is Impeached, where are the national networks, and newspapers going to hide from the fury of the American people, when it realizes that the leftists media has been lying and covering up for Obama during the last five years ?
The discredit and shame would be of such magnitude, that they would never again be able to recover the trust of the American people.
Yes, but who really cares? They’ve always coddled and protected Dem politicians. The mindless will continue to watch them and believe their brainwashing. This is day #2 of the second Fox boycott and I feel wonderful. They’ve become almost as bad as the rest. They’re audited and instructed by the regime on what to say. Communist Russia is at our doorsteps. It’s our responsibility to stop it. Don’t watch, don’t buy advertised products, get your news from reliable sources on-line. Sorry for the rant, but they disgust me for withholding the truth.
Fox has it’s faults, but it is still the best of the three.
Agree, but they don’t have to reach too far to be better than the others. I don’t want to hear their half truths and disagree with Sean Hannity deliberately telling his staff NO calls on birth certificate, social security or Selective Service forgeries. This is an atrocity of the greatest magnitude.
Re: ” Sean Hannity”
The reason is that Sean Hannity agrees with Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter and the National Review (and Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan) that Obama’s birth certificate and social security were NOT forged. The Selective Service card that was posted was indeed forged. It was forged by the guy who posted it, who did not even claim to have gotten it from Obama or the Obama campaign or from any representative of Obama.
Have you ever been to Guyana?
You stated: “I do not post for your benefit but for any rational person who may be visiting this site and seeking the facts.” Wrong you are posting here to convince yourself not us. There is not one person here who has agreed with you.They do not agree with you because they know know you are wrong and they are tired of seeing the same posts over and over and over and over.. You need to find a site where you can converse with like minded. It is obvious you will not change our minds nor will we change yours.
No matter where he was born he is the worst POTUS ever!!!!
As I said I hope you get well soon.
I do not turn in my TV until 6 PM anymore. I watch the local news. Jeopardy and a few other progarms. I have not watched the the Fox News for a long time. I do watch the 5 and Red Eye at times. I get most of my news from the net.
Yes, I hear you, we also tune into Conservative radio. Think it’s important to hang with like-minded people as Glenn Beck suggested on his post mortem show on November 7. If you get a chance, it’s well worth the listen; his monologue is phenomenal.
Re: “here is not one person here who has agreed with you.”
That does not matter in the slightest. The facts are still the facts. And they show that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the 1961 Hawaii papers by the DOH of Hawaii all show.
Re: ” It is obvious you will not change our minds nor will we change yours.”
I do not post to change your minds but on the off-chance that a rational person may be visiting this site and seeking the facts.
It remains highly irrational (to say the least) to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (They weren’t. His American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his mother a low level employee in a bank in 1961, and his father came on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their pregnant only daughter ALONE (since WND has proven that Obama stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) at huge expense and risk of stillbirth (and of Yellow Fever in Kenya) to a foreign country—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii. (Oh, and the government of Kenya says that it investigated and that Obama was certainly not born there.)
Even if he was BHO was born in Hawaii, you have to understand that his purported father being a British subject , Obama, according to the 1875 SCOTUS decision of Minor v Happersett, is not a ‘natural born citizen’. The fact is that he is criminally using a stolen Social Security number, and that is an impeachable felony. The fact is, that he presented a fraudulent Selective Service application, is also an impeachable offense. But you still do not understand, that if everything goes according to the law of the land, and the Constitution, Obama, your Mesiah, would not finish his second term, so get used to that eventuality !!
Francisco, You are wasting you time on ellen.
She is a troll with mission of dominating the debate.
I went thru Minor-Hapersett with her over and over.
She just replies the it is NOT true; Kim Wong Ark is the defining case according to ellen and she is perfectly wrong…. but that doesn’t stop her from mis-quoting.
Believe me, the best thing for you is to ostracize her/him/it
Re: “Even if he was BHO was born in Hawaii, you have to understand that his purported father being a British subject , Obama, according to the 1875 SCOTUS decision of Minor v Happersett, is not a ‘natural born citizen’. ”
As My911 points out, I have said, and it is true, the defining case is Wong Kim Ark, not Minor v. Happersett. Here are the words of the Wong Kim Ark case:
” thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.
III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”
As you can see, that says that the term comes from the common law (“by the law of England for the last three centuries”), meaning that it does not come from Vattel. And it says that it refers to the place of birth, no mention of parents affecting it at all, and it says that the same rule was in force in England, and in the 13 colonies and in the early states AND UNDER THE CONSTITUTION (and that means that it refers to Natural Born CITIZENS, not just to Natural Born Subjects). And, as you can see, it says that EVERY CHILD except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born Citizen.
Don’t believe the quote really says that? Well TEN appeals courts do, and not one of them says that the Minor v. Happersett ruling is the key ruling or that it applies AT ALL.
Here are some of the rulings:
Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling: “Those born “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency…”
Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 – Appellate Court) ruling: “Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”
Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling: “It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.”
Purpura v. Obama (New Jersey 2012) ruling: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.”
Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling: “However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that ‘[e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States. ‘Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion.”
Voeltz v. Obama (2nd suit Florida 2012) ruling: “In addition, to the extent that the complaint alleges that President Obama is not a “natural born citizen” even though born int he United States, the Court is in agreement with other courts that have considered this issue, namely, that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purpose, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”
Allen v. Obama (Arizona 2012) ruling: “Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, Arizona v. Jay J. Garfield Bldg. Co. , 39 Ariz. 45, 54, 3 P.2d 983, 986(1931), and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. … Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise”
Farrar (et al.) v. Obama (Georgia 2012) ruling: “In 2009, the Indiana Court of Appeals (“Indiana Court”) addressed facts and issues similar to those before this court. [Ankeny] v. Governor, 916 N.E.2d (Ind. Ct. App. 2009). … The Indiana Court rejected the argument that Mr. Obama was ineligible, stating that children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. … This Court finds the decision and analysis of [Ankeny] persuasive.”
Paige v. Obama et al. (Vermont 2012) ruling: “While the court has no doubt at this point that Emmerich de Vattel’s treatise The Law of Nations was a work of significant value to the founding fathers, the court does not conclude that his phrase–”The natives, or natural born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”–has constitutional significance or that his use of “parents” in the plural has particular significance. This far, no judicial decision has adopted such logic in connection with this or any related issues. In fact, the most comprehensive decision on the topic, Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana, examines the historical basis of the use of the phrase, including the English common law in effect at the time of independence, and concludes that the expression “natural born Citizen” is not dependent on the nationality of the parents but reflects the status of a person born into citizenship instead of having citizenship subsequently bestowed. The distinction is eminently logical.”
Fair v. Obama (Maryland 2012) ruling: “The issue of the definition of “natural born citizen” is thus firmly resolved by the United States Supreme Court in a prior opinion [US v Wong], and as this court sees it, that holding is binding on the ultimate issue in this case. “
ellen
The English Common law of 300 yearsa ago, is not incumbemt on the case of Minor v Hapersett, since the SCOTUS decision of 1875, even cites the english common law, to arrive at the conclussion that a natural born citizen, means, one in which both parents are citizens. And by that decision, a new Common Law precedent was established in this sovereign land.
By citing legal opinions from lower courts, and State courts, you in effect are saying that these opinions have overturned the 1875 decisions, but in fact I , not being a lawyer, would adduce that your reasoning is incorrect, for the fact that complaints were not brought to the attention of the present SCOTUS, does not mean that the 1875 Minor v Happersett decision has been overturned by these disparate opinions, and rendered in different lower courts within the USA. If there is a lawyer in the house, please clarify this point for Ms. Ellen and myself. In any event, you are a good lawyer, or one who is backed by the Obama’s camp lawyers, in order to spent your whole day citing case law, challenging the fraudulent nature of the documents Soetoro has presented, and all in all, trying to defend the indefensible. It has to be hard for a true believer like yourself, to find out that your Mesiah, has feet of clay. I understand your desperation.
Thank you Francisco. Well said. You can be sure you will be corrected by Ellen. If a lawyer did respond he is not as smart or as educated or can he/she ever win!!!
Wikiellenpedia RULES YEAH!!!
ellen
If you have read the 1898 SCOTUS decision granting Wong Kim Ark the status of natural born citizen, you still would find that Obama is not one.
That decision specifically identify children born of legal residents of the USA, but Obama Sr.. when he impregnated Obama’s mother, he was a transient in this country just visiting with a student visa. So legally he was not a permanent resident residing in this United States of America. I recommend the venerable lawyers that assist you, to look up other case law, for the one you cited is full of holes as you can readily see.
For those who would like to do some research on the subject, here are some links:
http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/the-natural-born-citizenship-clause-updated.html
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/#nbc
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/01/natural-born-citizenship-for-dummies/
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/02/an-open-letter-to-mario-apuzzo/
http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=21346
We need the WHOLE TRUTH and it all starts in Topeka Ks where he was born. Forget the Hawaii mess, its was done by his immediate fmaily soon after birth, whatever was done and then he was just another baby not told the truth of his origins, but few run for president later. The main media and even David Mariness now admits they knew aobut Toepka ks, but because the Pres was saying something else they shirked ther duty to the people and to even Pres Obama and did not confront him? When I was on the phone with the staff of the sec of State of Ks back on 9/14/12 after filing my affidavit with them in response to Orly Taitz lawsuit ( still pending 0 I found out that to access the Forbes Air Force base Hospital records, one has to ?log on to a separate data base as it was closed back in the mid 1960′s. Is it possible that the gasp I heard from them was for a request for records and the By his attorneys back years ago and a mistake made at the Sec Of State;s office in not locating the records. One would almost need to know it was Forbes adn not tone of the other hospitals in the City? The response I got was ” WE don’t think he knows?” One member of the staff was going to go to the Library and check for the birth and marriage and death records of is murdered Dad and promised to get back to me and she never did. So is there a cover up at the Ste of Ks sec of stat;s office for causing the birther movement in the first place.? WHO:E TRUTH IS NEEDED wherever it leads. Now, there is a legal mess, or is there. He is and always has been eligible, just the wrong state.. This is not a political endorsement, its a search for truth and for justice for three dead in the Kansas River.in a racist attack on his parents. who had sat down on the bank a to decide what do about ther ‘pregnant’ situation. They were never given the chance. And eye witnesses like, me have been shunned by all sides in this. Few of us have been allowed any access even i online. Start at the beginning Toepka Ks. and unravel many things some don’t want known about many things. Linda Joy Adams.
If all what you say is the truth why has Obama not have what you say investigated? I am sure he has heard and been told about your comments. I have not heard anything from the Kansas newspapers. So far YOU are the only one making these statement and claims.
Linda, I appreciate your telling of your story, but NO, he’s not eligible. Regardless of where he was born, Kenya, Hawaii, Kansas, he has lied, he has forged, he has bought the media’s silence, he has brainwashed many, many people with his lies. A forger is a felon. A felon cannot hold public office. These are facts. He no more belongs in our White House than the forger of the “Hitler Diaries.”
Dream on. If you cannot convince Mitt Romney, John McCain, Ann Coulter or the National Review of your claims, you can shout “forged” as much as you like, and you will not get anywhere. The facts, BTW, show that Obama’s birth certificate was not forged. Birther sites simply have not shown the numerous experts who say that it is not forged and the repeated confirmations of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii including the former Republican governor who have repeatedly certified ALL the facts on Obama’s birth certificate.
I was responding to Linda, not you Mrs. Robinson. I give you, and all the other mindless Dems, credit for the following:
DENIAL of the facts
DISTORTION of the facts
DECEIT as in fraud
DISTRACTION from the truth (you’re pros at that)
DISCREDITING of the sources (pros at this too)
DIGRESSION of society due to the
DEVIANT behavior leading to the
DESTRUCTION of America
Raise glass to lips and proceed to drink the kool-aid. Bottoms up!
Nevertheless, Obama really was born in Hawaii as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have confirmed, and that fact is believed by such Republican leaders as Mitt Romney and John McCain and Paul Ryan (and Gingrich and Santorum and Huckabee). And the meaning of Natural Born Citizen really does come from the common law and refers to the place of birth, and hence Jindal and Rubio and, yes, Obama, are all Natural Born Citizens).
It remains highly irrational (to say the least) to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (They weren’t. His American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his mother a low level employee in a bank in 1961, and his father came on a free flight) or stupid enough to send their pregnant only daughter ALONE (since WND has proven that Obama stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) at huge expense and risk of stillbirth (and of Yellow Fever in Kenya) to a foreign country—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii. (Oh, and the government of Kenya says that it investigated and that Obama was certainly not born there.)
Another noble decision made by your messiah to the detriment of our country. Rather lengthy, but everyone must know the background of this individual. Pay particular attention to the paragraph on Mr. Perez’s “attacks on election integrity.”
March 22, 2013: This Week’s Headlines (Judicial Watch)
JW Opposes Race-Baiting Perez for Secretary of Labor
“Last week, I alerted you about Thomas Perez, the scandal-ridden Department of Justice (DOJ) official who is now officially President Obama’s pick to head the Department of Labor. The Inspector General (IG) had just come out with a disturbing report proving what Judicial Watch has said all along, that Perez and Holder lied to Congress and have instigated a divisive and bitter race war inside the DOJ.
Without rehashing all of the details – you can read the post here – in summary, Judicial Watch demonstrated through documented evidence (and a U.S. District Court ruling) that Perez (and later Holder) lied in a congressional hearing when he said no political appointees were involved in the decision by the Obama DOJ to drop its voter intimidation lawsuit against the Black Panthers (New Black Panther Party), stemming from an incident that took place at a Philadelphia polling station in 2008.
(As I noted last week, The DOJ’s IG report, entitled, “A Review of the Operations of the Voting Rights Section of the Civil Rights Division,” confirms JW’s findings: “We believe that these facts evidence ‘involvement’ in the decision by political appointees within the ordinary meaning of that word,” and that Perez’s statements, “did not capture the full extent of that involvement.” The report also documents that Perez does not believe in the race neutral application of certain civil rights laws.)
Judicial Watch has also been able to demonstrate that Perez has been a key official inside a DOJ that is flagrantly racist in its application of the rule of law, failing to respond to acts of discrimination perpetrated against non-minorities (to read, white people). Moreover, Holder and Perez were involved in the attempt by the DOJ to corrupt the voting process by attacking states that tried to implement voter integrity measures.
Of course, none of this is evidently seen by President Obama as reason to exclude Perez from consideration. Quite the contrary, says The New York Times:
Mr. Obama’s nomination of Thomas E. Perez, who has racked up record discrimination and housing claims as head of the Civil Rights Division at the Justice Department, generated criticism from some Senate Republicans who called him a divisive and political choice. But after pushing through other disputed nominees, most notably Chuck Hagel, the defense secretary, Mr. Obama calculated he could win another fight. It might even be a fight that he wants to have.
Some say this is a “risky” fight for Republicans, in part because Perez was confirmed in 2009 for his post at the DOJ. But that vote came before the Black Panthers’ scandal, and before the accusations of racism inside the DOJ, and before that damning IG report.
And no matter the “risk” for politicians involved, this is a fight worth having, as I made clear in my press statement in response to the nomination:
During his time as the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division of the United States Department of Justice (DOJ), Thomas Perez has shown a glaring inability to tell the truth and dispassionately apply the basic constitutional tenet of “equal justice under law.”
Time and again in recent years, Judicial Watch has exposed Mr. Perez’s repeated attempts to undermine those seeking to assure that the laws of the land are applied equally to those of all races. Mr. Perez’s attacks on election integrity measures such as voter ID were so far off base that he helped the DOJ earn a reputation as a partisan campaign arm for the Obama reelection campaign.
As Secretary of Labor, Mr. Perez would be in a position to push policies which broadly discriminate against American workers who failed to meet his own, thoroughly racialist worldview. Furthermore, based upon his relentless record both in and out of government, there can be little doubt that he would continue to put his personal preference for illegal immigrants above the rights of all workers of any race to equal employment opportunity.
Mr. Perez is a terrible, hyper-partisan choice for Labor Secretary. Honest Democrats and Republicans who want the Labor Department to be run well should look skeptically at his nomination.
Now the flap over racism inside the DOJ and Perez’s false testimony is serious enough to merit not only his removal from consideration for the Labor post, but also his resignation. But this isn’t the only Perez scandal that the committee is likely to investigate.
In 2012, Judicial Watch discovered that Perez may have colluded with St. Paul, Minnesota, officials to persuade the city to take the extraordinary step of withdrawing its cert. petition from the Supreme Court docket in a case involving “disparate impact” discrimination. Documents obtained by Judicial Watch under the Minnesota Data Practices Act showed that St. Paul City Attorney Sara Grewing arranged a meeting between Perez and Mayor Chris Coleman a week before the city’s withdrawal from the case, captioned Magner v. Gallagher. Following Perez’s visit, the city withdrew its case and thanked DOJ and officials at the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for their involvement.
Documents and a staff briefing with the House Committee on Oversight & Government Reform revealed in September 2012 that, in exchange for St. Paul dropping its case before the high court, DOJ stopped two whistleblower claims against the city with the power to restore $180 million in violated HUD grants to the U.S. taxpayer. The Wall Street Journal confirmed Judicial Watch’s concerns in an investigation of its own and noted that the issues are “likely to get high billing” at Perez’s confirmation proceedings.
More from Perez’s resume: He is a former president of the board of the radicalist Central American Solidarity Association de Maryland, CASA de Maryland, a group whose recent filings with the IRS describe its chief goals as helping all people “participate and benefit fully” in American society, “regardless of their immigration status.” In opposing the Perez nomination, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Jeff Sessions (R-AL), described CASA as “a fringe advocacy group that has instructed illegal immigrants on how to escape detection, and also promoted illegal labor sites and driver’s licenses for illegal immigrants.” (CASA even received funding from Hugo Chavez. Accuracy in Media has an excellent report on that group, which we are continuing to investigate here. Judicial Watch’s friend and litigation partner J. Christian Adams, who witnessed some of Perez’s misconduct directly at DOJ, had a nice summary piece of the concerns about Perez over at Breitbart.com.)
Only in Washington could a race-baiting politician – who lied to Congress – be given an opportunity for a promotion. It is important that you share any concerns you might have with the U.S. Senate, especially the senators on the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee (HELP) who will initially consider the Perez nomination. The committee is led by Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA). The ranking minority leader is Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN). Senator Harkin’s DC phone number is (202) 224-3254. Senator Alexander’s number is (202) 224-4944. If you care about fighting corruption in government and holding this administration accountable for its lawlessness, then activism on the Perez nomination is a must.”
Until next week…
Tom Fitton
President
“ellen”
Article 2 Section 1, Clause 5: Qualifications for office President,
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
See also: Natural-born citizen and President of the United States
By the time of their inauguration, the President and Vice President must be:
natural born citizens (including naturalization passed from parents)
at least thirty-five years old inhabitants of the United States for at least fourteen years.
Eligibility for holding the office of President and Vice-President were modified by subsequent amendments:
The Twelfth Amendment (1804) requires the Vice-President must meet all of the qualifications of being a President.
The Twenty-second Amendment (1951) prevents a President from being elected more than twice.
NOTE:
Naturalization passed from parents means they both have to be U.S. Citizens as well. They can not be foreign born citizens. This prevents a sitting president from having split allegiance to another country especially if one of the presidents parents is a citizen (i.e. British subject) of another country .
Being a natural born citizen also applies to the Vice President.
Also go see SCOTUS Opinion from 1875, Minor v Happersett, defines “natural born citizen”.
The meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the PLACE of birth. There is nothing in the Constitution that refers to parents and the US Supreme Court ruled in the Wong Kim Ark case that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen came from the common law and refers to the place of birth and that EVERY child born in the USA (and yes that includes anchor babies) except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born Citizen.
And so far TEN appeals courts have all pointed to that ruling and not one has called the Minor v. Happersett case relevant to eligibility at all.
The Economist Magazine put it this way:
” The opposing case rests on a willfully idiosyncratic reading of an 1875 Supreme Court case called Minor v Happersett. In that ruling, the Court wrote, “…it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinct from aliens of foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve those doubts.” In other words, Minor did not settle the question of who was and was not a natural-born citizen, as the plaintiffs claim it did, it deliberately left the question open (as does the constitution, which does not define the term). The Supreme Court has held and lower courts affirmed that natural-born citizen refers to anyone born in the United States.”
The Wall Street Journal put it this way:
“Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning.”
Edwin Meese, Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, had this in his book on the Constitution:
““Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.] “
Sanvan,
Some try to obfuscate the truth, as in pushing Wong Kim Ark which was decided on the 14th Amendment; with NO LEGAL result about a natural born citizen.
You might review
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2830605/posts
This is at least as reliable as other claims posted here
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…the only time the US Supreme Court ever did define the class of persons who were POTUS eligible under Article 2 Section 1 was in Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), wherein it was held:…………….
………………….. Minor v. Happersett is LAW. It has never been overturned – the case was decided unanimously. This law states simply that a Natural Born Citizen is one born in the country with two parents who are it’s citizens. This LAW means that Obama is a criminal usurper……………
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Minor v. Happersett did not say what you think (and what birther lawyers claim):
The Economist Magazine puts it his way: “The opposing case rests on a willfully idiosyncratic reading of an 1875 Supreme Court case called Minor v Happersett. In that ruling, the Court wrote, “…it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinct from aliens of foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve those doubts.” In other words, Minor did not settle the question of who was and was not a natural-born citizen, as the plaintiffs claim it did, it deliberately left the question open (as does the constitution, which does not define the term). The Supreme Court has held and lower courts affirmed that natural-born citizen refers to anyone born in the United States.” (http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012)
HOWEVER, the Wong Kim Ark case did rule that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth and that EVERY child born in the USA is a Natural Born Citizen. You and birther lawyers say that it didn’t. But you are wrong. So far ten appeals courts have all ruled that the Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court case really did define the meaning of Natural Born Citizen, and on October 1 of last year the US Supreme Court turned down an appeal of one of the ten cases, which like the other had said that the Wong Kim Ark case had defined Natural Born Citizen and that every child born in the USA is a Natural Born Citizen, and by turning down the appeal the US Supreme Court allowed the ruling of the lower court—and the other nine appeals courts—to stand.
Some of the rulings:
Allen v. Obama (Arizona 2012) ruling: “Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, Arizona v. Jay J. Garfield Bldg. Co. , 39 Ariz. 45, 54, 3 P.2d 983, 986(1931), and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. … Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise”
Farrar (et al.) v. Obama (Georgia 2012) ruling: “In 2009, the Indiana Court of Appeals (“Indiana Court”) addressed facts and issues similar to those before this court. [Ankeny] v. Governor, 916 N.E.2d (Ind. Ct. App. 2009). … The Indiana Court rejected the argument that Mr. Obama was ineligible, stating that children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. … This Court finds the decision and analysis of [Ankeny] persuasive.”
Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling: “Those born “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency…”
Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 – Appellate Court) ruling: “ Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”
Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling: “It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.”
Purpura v. Obama (New Jersey 2012) ruling: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.”
Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling: “However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that ‘[e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States. ‘Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion.”
So, Minor v. Happersett never ruled that two (or even one) citizen parent is required to be a Natural Born Citizen, and the Wong Kim Ark case, which was after it, did rule that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen refers to the place of birth and not to the citizenship of the parents.
For those who would like to do some research on the subject, here are some links:
http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/the-natural-born-citizenship-clause-updated.html
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/#nbc
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/02/an-open-letter-to-mario-apuzzo/
http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=21346
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/vattel-and-natural-born-citizen/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574322281597739634.html?KEYWORDS=obama+%22natural+born+citizen%22+minor+happersett
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen
http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-lincoln-republican/2012/12/10/is-marco-rubio-a-natural-born-citizen/
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf
‘FILTH’: HERE’S HOW SNUBBED MEMBERS OF KNESSET ARE RESPONDING TO OBAMA’S JERUSALEM SPEECH – Full story below:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/22/filth-heres-how-snubbed-members-of-knesset-are-responding-to-obamas-jerusalem-speech/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=Share%20Buttons
“It is simply astonishing that the leader of the free world would agree to speak against a backdrop of a murderous terrorist with American and Israeli blood on his hands. What kind of message does this send to America’s enemies when the president of the United States gives a press conference standing in front of a banner celebrating one of the most brutal terrorists in history? It projects a clear signal that Washington is weak in the face of terrorism, and it is an insult to the memory of those who died at the hands of Arafat’s terror network.”
“This is in many respects an amateurish presidency, headed by a president who is frequently out of his depth on the world stage, and all too willing to appease America’s adversaries.” Full story below:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/22/filth-heres-how-snubbed-members-of-knesset-are-responding-to-obamas-jerusalem-speech/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=Share%20Buttons
This is interesting.]
http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/30/shocking-hillary-opens-up-about-obama/
Yup, she’s right, that’s what they get for voting in a community organizer who has “never been in government” No experience, communist ideaology, horrific combination. It is strategic for her to make the statements now because of her intent to run, God help us, in 2016.
“It is simply astonishing that the leader of the free world would agree to speak against a backdrop of a murderous terrorist with American and Israeli blood on his hands. What kind of message does this send to America’s enemies when the president of the United States gives a press conference standing in front of a banner celebrating one of the most brutal terrorists in history? It projects a clear signal that Washington is weak in the face of terrorism, and it is an insult to the memory of those who died at the hands of Arafat’s terror network.”
” As I’ve noted in previous pieces, President Obama’s first term was littered with embarrassing gaffes abroad, and it looks like his second term will be more of the same. This is in many respects an amateurish presidency, headed by a president who is frequently out of his depth on the world stage, and all too willing to appease America’s adversaries.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100208464/barack-obamas-arafat-blunder-is-an-embarrassment-for-the-leader-of-the-free-world/
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) among those unconvinced by President Obama’s outreach efforts to congressional Republicans.
“The Oklahoma lawmaker lashed out at his Republican colleagues for applauding Obama’s recent charm offensive, telling radio host Laura Ingraham on Thursday that the GOP should remain skeptical even as the president is reaching out.”
“This is the same guy that is … over-regulating all of our businesses, he has a war on fossil fuels, he is keeping us from being energy independent, he is defunding the military,” Inhofe said.
“So he’s destroying this country, but yes he’s charming,” Inhofe said. Full story below:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/288357-inhofe-obama-destroying-country-but-yes-hes-charming
Y’all listen here, worth the 15:09 of your time ~> http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/03/sheriff-joe-may-investigate-obama-cousin.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Carl Gallups: “The purported cousin in question is named Linda Joy Adams. Her blog is located here. She has been posting comments all over the place regarding Obama’s past for a long time. She claims to have birth announcements and other evidence that shows Obama was born at Forbes Air Force base in Topeka, Kansas. Carl Gallups mentions the Adams story towards the end of the video. Aired on WEBY.”
Have a great evening, ta-ta!
bobmann101
Thanks for the support given to a dilettante like myself, who is not a lawyer but a mere engineer.
But looking at the 1898 SCOTUS decisions on the case of Wong Kim Ark, the court found that Wong was a citizen by virtue of his having been born here, and his parents being permanent residents. In the case of Obama Sr., he was a transient student, with just a temporary student visa to study, and thus was not allowed to reside permanently on the United States, and therefore, Ellen’s claim, that this 1898 SCOTUS opinion somehow derogate the 1875 decision of Minor v Happersett, is in fact an invalid argument, since once Obama Sr. visa expired, he went back to Kenya in 1963. I think Ellen, besides trying to prove that Obama’s Birth Certificate is valid, and not a fraudulently fabricated document, as many renowned experts have already stated, she would have to prove that his putative father, was permanently residing in the United States as a legal and permanent resident. Her task to prove Obama’s legitimacy, as well as Obama’s lawyers, would be seem to be an herculean endeavor.
MODERATOR
I have the following question :
After reading Ms. Ellen long and tedious legal arguments in favor of BHO, I placed one by attorney Puzzo, which debunked the eligibility of BHO, and after a long moderation, it has been apparently erased, is there a double standard in this blog to permit this type of unbalanced moderation ?
They’re like all the other media, right down to a small town newspaper that selectively eliminates the facts of the atrocities perpetrated on the American people over the past 4 years. Soros has very deep pockets filled with dirty money. However, when the truth lava begins to flow, they’ll be no stopping it.
“And it is because he does not believe in this country, its origins, its traditions or its ideology that he is willing to destroy it.”
“Why then has there been no revolution?” Full story below, great piece:
Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/why-has-there-been-no-revolution/#ixzz2OOOAsOdA
Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Barack Obama: The De Facto President of the United States-Maybe a Born Citizen But Not A “Natural Born Citizen”
Barack Obama: The De Facto President of the United States-
Maybe a Born Citizen But Not A “Natural Born Citizen”
By Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
January 21, 2013
The U.S. Constitution
Barack Obama eligibility supporters maintain that he is an Article II “natural born Citizen” and therefore eligible to be President. But to do so, they have blended together, through ignorance or intent, “citizen,” “born citizen,” and “natural born Citizen,” and denied that there is a critical constitutional distinction between these phrases. These supporters and enablers, who I call the citizen/born citizen/natural born citizen conflationists, in constitutionally supporting Barack Obama to be president, have allowed our Constitution, the rule of law, and our nation to be violated. Allow me to explain.
In order to understand the meaning of an Article II “natural born Citizen,” we have to understand the constitutional distinction between a “citizen,” “born citizen,” and “natural born Citizen.” The first constitutional distinction is between “citizen” and “natural born Citizen.” In Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 the Framers provided in pertinent part: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President.” Here, we see the Framers distinguished between a “natural born Citizen” and a “Citizen of the United States.” There is no other type of “citizen” mentioned. So, our Constitution, Acts of Congress, and treaties, call “citizens,” or members of the United States, either “natural born Citizens” or “citizens of the United States.” As we shall see, the former are defined by American common law (the definition being based on natural law and the law of nations) and the latter by the Fourteenth Amendment (the definition being in part based on colonial English common law), Congressional Acts, or treaties. From this we can see that a “citizen” is either a “natural born Citizen” or a “citizen of the United States.” Because of the requirement of having to be born in the country to citizen parents, a “natural born Citizen” will necessarily also qualify under these sources as a “citizen of the United States.”
Article II refers to a “natural born Citizen,” but does not define it. In fact, the definition of a “natural born Citizen” is not found anywhere in the original or amended Constitution or any Act of Congress. Rather, it is found in the common law upon which the Founders and Framers relied at the time of the adoption and ratification of the Constitution. Under this common law, the three constituent elements of being a “natural-born citizen” are time (at the moment of birth), birth place (in the country), and birth parents (U.S. citizen parents), what I will call birth time, birth country, and birth parents. See Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167-68 (1875) (the unanimous U.S. Supreme Court explained that the definition of a “natural-born citizen” is not found in the Constitution and confirmed that “[a]t common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners”); United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 679-80 (1898) (the majority and dissent agreed on the Minor definition of a “natural-born citizen,” but they disagreed as to the definition of a Fourteenth Amendment “citizen of the United States” at birth). Given this settled common law definition of a “natural born Citizen,” these elements are both necessary and sufficient to make a “natural born Citizen.” In the definition, the parents have to have as a minimum the status of a “citizen” (“born citizen” or “natural born Citizen” is not necessary) in order to produce a “natural born Citizen.” Note that Minor said that at common law, if one was not a “natural-born citizen,” one was an alien or foreigner. This means that if these persons qualified, the Fourteenth Amendment, Act of Congress, or treaty could make them a “citizen of the United States.”
These historical and legal developments inform that at common law there is a critical distinction between a “citizen” and a “natural born citizen.” In fact, natural law and the law of nations have always recognized this distinction. See Emer de Vattel, The Law of Nations, Section 212 (London 1797) (1st ed. Neuchatel 1758) (“The citizens are the members of the civil society: bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/vattel/vatt-119.htm ). At common law, if one was a “citizen” but not a “natural born citizen,” then, except for the original “citizens” who became such by the Declaration of Independence and by adhering to the American Revolution, one had to have been alien born and become a “citizen” by naturalization statute. Natural law and the law of nations, along with both English and American common law, have also always recognized that a child gains allegiance and citizenship by either being born on the soil of a country (jus soli) or by being born to parents of that country (jus sanguinis). The Founders and Framers accepted the distinction between a “citizen” and a “natural born Citizen” and understood that birth country and birth parents produce in the child allegiance from the moment of birth. Because they expected the President and Commander in Chief of the Military to have absolute allegiance from birth only to the United States, they applied the distinction to the Office of President. In fact, they used it when they made the “natural born Citizen” clause a requirement of eligibility for the Office of President (the XII Amendment extends it to the Office of Vice-President) and for no other office, requiring, for those to born after the adoption of the Constitution and who would aspire to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military, that they be not only a “citizen,” but a “natural born Citizen.” (The grandfather clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 allowed “Citizens of the United States” to be eligible to be President, provided they had that status “at the time of Adoption of this Constitution.”) The English did not nor did they have to demand such allegiance from their would-be Kings, for their Kings did not have to qualify from among the people. Rather, they lay their claim to the throne by royal blood. Rejecting as a requisite to be President royal blood, the Founders and Framers instead settled with the natural elements of birth time, birth country, and birth parents, and made their distinction between a “citizen” who was also a “natural born Citizen” and a “citizen” who was not. And it was the combination of these three elements at the time of birth which assured them that all means of inheriting allegiance and citizenship (birth country and birth parents) were united at the moment of birth to produce in the child absolute allegiance only to the United States.
The next constitutional distinction is between “born citizen” and “natural born Citizen.” These same Obama eligibility supporters add the word “born” to the word “citizen” and want us to accept that combination as the definition of a “natural born Citizen.” But those who assert that a “natural born Citizen” is just any “born citizen” commit two errors: a textual error of missing the point (or by refusing to see the point) that the clause is “natural born Citizen,” not “born citizen” and a definitional error of not understanding (or refusing to accept) that “born citizen” is neither a definition nor a description of the clause “natural born Citizen.”
First, regarding the textual error, as I have already explained in other articles such as Logic and Defining the “Natural Born Citizen” Clause, at http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2012/11/logic-and-defining-natural-born-citizen.html , we cannot define a clause by merely repeating parts of the clause itself. For example, if we wanted to know what the definition of a “natural born German Shepherd” is, we would not accept as a correct definition the answer that it is a “born German Shepherd.” To argue that a “natural born German Shepherd” is a “born German Shepherd” is tautological, for it only repeats part of the form of the clause and does not define the clause. Such an argument does nothing more than to state the obvious that a “natural born German Shepherd” is a “born German Shepherd.” Likewise, a “natural born Citizen,” is, of course, a “born citizen,” but saying so does not define the clause.
Second, in this “born German Shepherd” definition example, a rational person should also want to know what happened to the qualifier “natural” and its meaning. Does not that word tell us something about under what conditions the “born German shepherd” must come into existence? Likewise, those rational persons who want to know the meaning of a “natural born Citizen” should want to know what happened to the qualifier “natural,” and whether that qualifier also requires that certain conditions be met in order to have a “natural born Citizen.” Actually, these persons would be correct in raising such questions. Given the meaning of a “natural born Citizen,” with its three constituent elements of birth time, birth country, and birth parents, we know that the word “natural” when combined with “born citizen” demands that all three elements be satisfied in order to have a “natural born Citizen.” We might be willing to include others as “born citizens” and Congress has the naturalization powers to do so and has done so throughout our history. But that we are willing to tolerate by the application of some law certain persons as “born citizens” does not, given the applicable common law definition of the clause and its requirements, make them “natural born Citizens”
Regarding the definitional error, the clauses “natural born Citizen” and “born Citizen” are conclusions, birth statuses that do not provide sufficient factual information as to how one arrives at the conclusions or statuses themselves. Rather, to know if one satisfies the status of being a “natural born Citizen,” one must start with the definition of a “natural born Citizen,” identifying its constituent elements. If one satisfies those elements, then one is a “natural born Citizen.” And to know if one satisfies the status of being a “born citizen,” one must also start with the available definitions, however many there are and whether provided by the Fourteenth Amendment or Congressional Acts, of a “born citizen,” identifying their constituent elements. If one satisfies those elements, then one is a “born citizen.” But obviously, we are defining two different clauses which necessarily contain different definitions and requirements. The clause does not tell us how one arrives at being a “born citizen,” which process must be equivalent to the process by which one arrives at being a “natural born Citizen” if the two clauses are to mean the same thing. Hence, to simply use other legal mechanisms of citizenship which produce a “born citizen” and proclaim that they too produce a “natural born Citizen,” simply because they, like “natural born Citizens,” are “born citizens,” is to err. It is to err because being a “born citizen” is only a necessary consequent (a conclusion or status) of being a “natural born Citizen” and by itself, because it is based on a different definition, represents a different class of citizen, one produced by the Fourteenth Amendment or Congressional Act and not by American common law.
There is only one process or means by which one can be a “natural born Citizen,” i.e., by satisfying the necessary and sufficient conditions of birth time (at the moment of birth), birth country (born in the United States), and birth parents (born to U.S. citizen parents). Simply stated, any “born citizen” who does not satisfy these three conditions, while still being a “born citizen” under some legal mechanism (e.g., under the Fourteenth Amendment or Congressional Act), is not a “natural born Citizen” under American common law which is the natural law/law of nations-based law that provides the constitutional definition of the clause.
Minor v. Happersett confirms all this and United States v. Wong Kim Ark changes none of it.
Barack Obama maintains that he was born in Hawaii. With a dispute involving whether his birth certificate, social security number, and military draft registration are authentic still continuing and not having been definitively resolved through any legal process, we have yet to see conclusive legal proof of his place of birth. But even assuming for sake of argument that he was born in Hawaii, he is still not an Article II “natural born Citizen.” We have seen that the three elements of being a “natural born Citizen” are birth time, birth country, and birth parents. Minor; Wong Kim Ark. If Obama was born in Hawaii, he satisfies the birth country requirement. But while Obama was born to a U.S. “citizen” mother, his father never became nor did he strive to become a U.S. “citizen.” Rather, his father was born in the English colony of Kenya, was born a British citizen, and remained such until his death. Hence, Obama was not born to a U.S. “citizen” father. He therefore fails to satisfy the elements of being born to citizen parents at the moment of birth. This means that he can be a “born citizen” under the Fourteenth Amendment or Congressional Act, which provide a more relaxed allegiance standard , but he cannot be a “natural born Citizen” under Article II, which provides a more exacting allegiance standard for would-be Presidents and Commanders of the Military. This also means that because he is neither “a natural born Citizen” nor “a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,” he is not eligible to be President.
On January 20, 2013, Barack Obama was again sworn in as the President of the United States. But because he is not an Article II “natural born Citizen,” he is at best a de facto President of the United States, not a constitutionally legitimate one.
Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
January 21, 2013
http://puzo1.blogspot.com
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Francisco,
Standby for a rebuttal from ellen.
she will tell you that Mr. Apuzo is a quack… her view.
She will also tell you it is TRUE, just like obama’s birth.
She will ignore the FACT that the effective LAW in Wong Kim Ark was the 14th Amendment,
not the “dictum” ( side talk) about Hapersett
Just a warning for you…….be prepared….
…or…quit enabling ellen
my911
Thanks for your advice, on which I concur. At least, Mr.Puzzo’s article went through Moderation, and has already appeared. I have the same opinion of Ellen, but at least we have to admire her determination, endurance and her fidelity and veneration of the Usurper-in-Chief. Friends like her, are hard to find !!
Thank you. Very much appreciated. Here is an add on for people who read this. I am going to add it to more comments . I have the feeling the Supreme Court will not grant the writ of certiorari. We shall se how this pans out. I will not be holding mt breath!
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2011/09/17/u-s-supreme-court-confers-on-obama-eligibility-pelosi-supplying-altered-congressional-records-to-the-election-commission/
Thanks, Francisco, for posting this. It couldn’t be more explicit. It’s a saver. Abundant thanks to Mario Apuzzo, Esq., as well.
WELL,
I hope y’all are prepared for a complete denial by ellen.
ellen cares not about truth or logic…..only ellen
Instead of ostracizing ellen, just keep feeding her!
This party that spent a lot fo effort on natural born citizen and what it means has nothing to do with Pres Obama. Was he asked about Toepka Ks. and what it meant for a man form Kneya to marry a 7 month pregnant girl in Topeka ks and the real Dad is dead. There is such a thing as a reubuttable presumptiom of husband being the Dad. If one is going that way. That means that the husband isn’t always considered the father, Except in some states, like Louisiana which follwos french law, more. I though Ellen was against Pres Obama? If not why is she so opposed to the truth of his Topeka Ks Birth?. Techincially its Shawnnee Ks as Forbes air force base hospital was not in the city limits then. I cant’ believe that 10 months after I went public with my eye witess testimony, the reistance to getitng the real reocrds is so gross and overwhelming including the Topeka Capital Journal editor wo forbade her reporters from chacking the archives , too. I initially had just asked them for the news articles on the three bodies that washed up on the sand bar one of whichc was the real Dad. I knew him, but didn;t recall the other two names as being familiar and had forgotten them. yYu have to understand ‘everyone knew’ And a few phone calls I made was rmemberance, also, but scared to get involved, now. What kind of legal trouble would the president have if he didn’t knowingly put down the wrong state on an applicaton for the ballot? What would happen? Ellen? Linda Joy Adams
Linda, if you knew the real Dad, then what is his name? Ellen is a paid operative of the administration. We do not invite her responses because they are as false as the sky is blue.
You have to understand even if the father is an American citizen, he is not eligible due to the forgery of the Selective Service form, the use of a stolen Social Security number and identity theft of Harrison Bounel. Forgery in the first degree is a felony. Felons cannot hold the office of presidency within the United States.
I’m not paid, and Re: “Felons cannot hold the office of presidency within the United States.”–who told you that?
The meaning of Natural Born Citizen refers to the place of birth, not to the citizenship of the parents. (And Obama was born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties show, and as further shown by the public Index Data and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii—and only the DOH could send notices to that section of the papers).
The Web image of Obama’s selective service card WAS forged; it was forged by the fellow who posted it—and that was not Obama or his campaign, and the fellow who posted it did not even claim to have gotten it from Obama or from a representative of Obama. Obama’s Social Security number was caused by an error; there are millions upon millions of errors in Social Security files, usually caused by data entry errors by SS clerks.
Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a Natural Born citizen due to his place of birth. He did not commit a felony—and even if he did, there is absolutely nothing in the Constitution about felons not being eligible to be president. You of course can ask your congressman and senators to begin impeachment proceedings. But not one of them seems to be interested in investigating the SS number or the forged draft card, or for that matter Obama’s place of birth or the nutty theory that two citizen parents are required in order to be a Natural Born Citizen.
Dear Ellen
In Spain they have a saying, ” The worst of the blinds, are those that do not want to see.”
I think you are as blind as a bat, and I tell you this, with the utmost respect that needs to be accorded to a lady of your intelectual capacity.
Re: “In Spain they have a saying, ” The worst of the blinds, are those that do not want to see.”
You are referring to yourself. The facts that you do not want to see is that not one of members of Congress seems to be interested in investigating the SS number or the forged draft card, or for that matter Obama’s place of birth or the nutty theory that two citizen parents are required in order to be a Natural Born Citizen.
ellen
Go to the SCOTUS website, look under Orders, for February 19, 2013, and you would see that Dr.Orly Taitz case 12A606, dealing with the fraudulent nature of Obama’s documents, is still under review, taken under Conference on 2/15/2013. Out of more than 500 hundred cases in which SCOTUS has denied Certoriari, case 12A606 is one of a handfull that is still under consideration six weeks later.
If I were Soetoro, at this moment I would be wearing Depend pampers, for this does not vogue well for the Usurper-in-Chief.
Great job. You beat me to it. lol. Remember Ellen posts what SHE thinks is right not what IS right.
bobmann101
I think Ellen is living in a parallel Universe. She only states what her handlers in the White House tell here to say here.
She does not even know that at this very moment, two challenges against Obama’s eligibility are moving through the court system, and these deal with the matter of the ‘natural born citizen’ status of Soetoro, or the lack thereof, of this Impostor. Both Minor v Happersett and Wong Kim Ark, are part of the briefs presented by the Liberty Counsel, against Obama. Maybe that is why Obama is spending his own money, inviting congressional leaders to dinner, for as you know, once a president invites you to dinner, it is unethical to Impeach him, and then, find him guilty of high crimes and misdeamenors.
OK Obama did run for POTUS and won. Tell me what you think is his experience and qualifications are to be POTUS?
Re US Supreme Court Docket Number: 12A606
This shows that Orly Taitz’s only motion, an application for a stay, was referred to the full court on January 9 and denied by the court on February 19, what makes you think that that means that court is still considering it, when it threw out her only motion?
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/12a606.htm
Re: “She does not even know that at this very moment, two challenges against Obama’s eligibility are moving through the court system, and these deal with the matter of the ‘natural born citizen’ status of Soetoro, or the lack thereof, of this Impostor.”
Answer: Our legal system allows people to bring as many lawsuits as they want. The fact that there are still two of them, if true, is only proof that two cases were filed. So far ALL the birther cases were lost by the birthers, and in particular, ALL the cases that claimed that two citizen parents are required were lost by birthers. So far, ten appeals courts have all considered the question of whether the Minor v. Happersett case is relevant to Obama or whether the Wong Kim Ark ruling is relevant, and all TEN of them ruled that the Wong Kim Ark decision, which said that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth and that EVERY child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born US Citizen. AND, on October 1, the US Supreme Court turned down an appeal of one of those ten cases, the Farrar Case in Georgia, which had ruled that every child born in the USA is a Natural Born Citizen. By turning down that appeal, the US Supreme Court allowed the ruling of the lower court, and the other nine appeals courts, to stand.
Re: “Tell me what you think is his experience and qualifications are to be POTUS?”
Answer: Since the election is over what is the point? He has the two necessary legal qualifications to be president (1) he is a Natural Born US Citizen, as ten appeals courts and the denial of an appeal of one of them by the US Supreme Court have all determined; and (2) the voters of the USA determined in 2008 and 2012 that they preferred Obama to McCain and Obama to Romney.
By the way, regarding Minor v. Happersett, that ruling did NOT says that two citizen parents are required, and in fact no US Supreme Court ruling has ever said so. the Wong Kim Ark ruling, however, did say that EVERY child born in the USA (Yes, that means including anchor babies) is a Natural Born US Citizen, except for the children of foreign diplomats.
You said the people of the USA elected him. May I add my two cents (sarcastically, of course, because I know he’s a fraud)… Yeah, c’mon, Obama got a fair 125% of the vote in many districts, and 100% or more of the vote in 26 districts. So, yeah, fair and square, the people* voted for him. In some districts, he got more votes than there were people registered! Do you see any problem with that? Probably not. If you can’t figure out that a Birth Certificate done in crayon is a fraud, you probably think there’s some reason he can receive over 100% of the vote in 26 districts, too. (That’s why the word Libard was “invented” – because the words clueless, retarded liberal didn’t quite cover it!)
* The phrase “people of the USA” is defined by liberals as illegals, dead people, union people who vote 10 times, ya know, all those people. And the pimps, whores, and welfare brats of course.
AlwaysRight
The perverse socialist agenda is being fed down our troats, by either the way of fraudulent elections, or by the court systen, as we saw in the later example, when SCOTUS affirmed by one vote, that Obamacare was Constitutional, that the mandate was a tax in reality, even though the law originated on the Senate and not in Congress, as is required when a new tax is levied.
The case 12A606, that is in review by SCOTUS, adduces, with evidence at hand, that in California alone, more than 1.5 million registrations were invalid, by the laws of California.
I wonder how many of these illegal registrants, voted for Romney ?
Yeah, I know. Imagine if illegals were known to vote predominantly Republican. Democrats would be sealing that border and kicking ‘em out every day. Instead, they use our taxes to pay for stations in the desert that provide shade, water, maps. And when they get here, they give them free healthcare (no exagerration – democrats literally just voted no on the legislation that would have prevented illegals to get free Obamacare!!!), free SSN, free education, in-state college education, and so much more. It’s sickening. If you read/watch videos on NUMBERSUSA, you’ll see that even legal immigration is no longer good for USA at all. Google search the 15-minute video, one with some big charts, another with marbles. They should be mandatory for all congress and POTUS. I know I switched subjects, but whatever!
Obama wants to take care of illegals so he can recruit them into his army
bobmann101, yeah, you’re probably right. Even if it’s not a thought-out plan, it certainly is what’s going to happen when all hell breaks loose. He’ll give them all amnesty, and millions more will flood across, then he’ll tell them that “these stingy racist republicans want to take away your free stuff” and then provide the illegals with the 1.6 billion rounds of ammo, support from the 3000 street sweeper tanks, and so on. And the UN will go house to house and disarm all law-abiding American citizens. And the really scary part – he’ll take control of the airwaves/FTC and internet (somehow?) so that nobody can communicate what’s going on so he’ll be the only source of information, always proclaiming as he does that “all is well”.
Hey btw, do you watch the show REVOLUTION? Great show. It’s back on tonight.
Here is my main post as to what I think will happen.
I believe the national security force he is talking about will be the Muslim Brotherhood, the people in the terrorist training camps, here in the US, the illegals who have been given amnesty and you can be sure he will give amnesty to anyone who comes here to join his army, along with about 100,000 Bolsheviks, Obama will make promises to give them more incentive to join his army. I believe he might even tell Mexicans “Come here and join my army and help crush the US I will you your land back we stole (bought).” Bring in Chinese troops that want to protect their investments of our land and resources.
The New Black Panthers will be directing traffic, handing out pamphlets as to where to go to get sworn into his army, get their battle gear and taken to a modern compound where they will be issused guns confiscated from Americans and ammo compliments of the DHS. There will be blood flowing in the streets of America in time!!! Scary times ahead for us all and we have Nancy Pelosi and our “Do-Nothing,” Congress. Be prepared!!!
Yes I watch Revolution. I also am anxious for Homeland to return.
I’ll answer about tall the forgery allegations. As an employee of SSA who has extensive experience with the SSN process, much of what is out there is not plausible. and if occurred would be beyond the time to prosecute which is a major problem in the politicized office of Inspector general federal law enforcement system in the last 30 years and there is bipartisan support in Congress to abolish OPMM and set something else up that works better. Originally criminal investigiations were more under the professional prosecutors i out of the US Justice dept. much as they are in counties and states crimes. If he is sing someone else;s SNNS now which has been obtained off the street’ then that; needs to be investigated., etc. Its what should have been the focus all along if the main media had just confronted the candidate Obama with the Topeka ks info which they had. I have provided ( name of Dad) the name to the Se of State of Kansas and to the Attroney General of the US as well as to Sheriff Joe;s investigator. T
I do not know if the Dad;s family ever knew of the pregnancy, nor if the {Pres knows. I think the parties listed as living in Topeka ks now are some extended famioy members and how would you like to have Westboro Baptist show up at your door screaming awful things and egging things on whihc led to the gossip frenzy that ended with three dead. This is a cold case murder investigation. I did igive the name to some reporters at the Toepka Capital Journal but his editor would not permit him h even to check the archives which I wanted to get the names of the other two dead that were in the paper as I don;t recall knowing the names at the time. But I could do nothing but go ahead after much sprayer and discussion with family. Its the same reason I have not published pictures of current extended fmaly members on Flickr at Linda Joy Adams but have focused on those infividualsaround at the time hing it will jog some memories and they will help locate the records out of Topeka. Also, you want to know the name help me find the articles as the ‘whole states of Kansas was talking’ but those in Tpepka stopped talking when the bodies went under the water. It did result in a new sheriff getting elected, a relative of Speaker of the House Boehner. Maybe he can help get some records. Linda Joy Adams
THE Dad: There is an ethical and human deciency issue here and an etended fmaily in htat side.
I understand your dilemma and appreciate your honesty. Boehner, Holder .. they’re both in very deep, as are many, many others. I’m confident the entire truth will be told and justice will be served. Americans deserve nothing less. Thanks for responding.
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Jenny, I admire your enthusiam, but
We are STIIL trying to get the truth about McCarthy, Kennedy, Nixon, Clinton.
Who cares……..just dump the current crooks
Agree. The mooches and the takers are smothering us. Combine this with their masterful manipulation of the elections, how do we dump ‘em? May have to be by force. That’s all we have left.
And yet another Social Security #. “Taitz Crashes Social Security Administration Office: Obama Used Another Social Security Number Assigned To Deceased Mother Of Chief Actuary Of Social Security Administration” http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/03/ssa-crashed-obama-used-another-social.html
That’s Mario’s OPINION. It is not the opinion of the US Supreme Court which on October 1 turned down an appeal of a case in Georgia, the Farrar case, which had ruled that the US Supreme Court had ruled in the Wong Kim Ark case that every child born in the USA is a Natural Born US Citizen. Buy turning down that appeal, the US Supreme Court allowed the ruling of the lower level court and those of the other nine state and federal courts all of which ruled that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen includes EVERY child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats standing. That is the law, and it will remain the law unless and until the US Supreme Court takes a case and reverses a ruling that says that EVERY child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born Citizen or unless a constitutional amendment is passed stating that the definition of Natural Born Citizen refers to the citizenship of the parents. Currently it simply says “Natural Born Citizen”—which the American writers at the time and the US Supreme Court in the Wong Kim Ark ruling and Ronald Reagan’s attorney general and Black’s Law Dictionary and senators Hatch and Graham and former senator Fred Thompson all agree refers to the common law meaning of the term, meaning the place of birth.
That should read: “By turning down the appeal…”
Ellen, Barack Sr. was a transient student and fornicator, that did not even had a permanent immigrant visa, but a student one, and in 1963 he left for Kenya after his temporary visa expired.
And you still believe BHO is a ‘natural born citizen’, in contravention of the SCOTUS decisions of Minor v Happersett and the Wong Kim Ark. You are really a follower of our Mesah !!
Obama’s married in Topeka, Ks arranged by my Dad so he could stay in USA ans she to have a marriage certificate as real Dad of Pres had been murdered in a racist attack on his parents which left three dead. They never lived together. Do you have the documents on this. Sounds like the ruse didn’t work and I knew if Immigration showed up where Ann and newborn son, Pres jived they wouldn’t be fooled as she had one twin cot to sleep on at the live in job at the catholic text book store and warehouse on Kansas Ave in Topeka ks Linda Joe Adams
Linda
Thank you for the information, now everything makes sense !
Hey, I try to follow these posts but I do have to go to work and have a life and stuff… can you bring me up to speed? Seems there are a couple liberal libtard spewing nonsense and presenting themselves as being knowledgeable about stuff. What’s going on? WTF? I can’t keep track, so many emails!
AlwaysRight
The plot is very complicated, apparently, Obama’s putative father, and his mother, were not married in Hawaii, but in Kansas, the Land of Oz, they slept in separate beds, and the marriage was a sham, for BHO being the Mesiah, his conception was made through insemination of the Archangel Gabriel, the only black of the whole group of Archangels, so to cover the form, they got Obama Sr. , who was studying in Hawaii at the time, to marry Ann Durham, so as to coverup the Immaculate Conception of Soetoro.
That is why I told Linda, that all of the pieces now fell into place. Now you know, why his followers tell us that He could walk on water.
Re: “in contravention of the SCOTUS decisions of Minor v Happersett and the Wong Kim Ark. You are really a follower of our Mesah !!”
Minor v. Happersett did not say what you and birther lawyers claim that it said:
The Economist Magazine puts it this way:
“The opposing case rests on a willfully idiosyncratic reading of an 1875 Supreme Court case called Minor v Happersett. In that ruling, the Court wrote, “…it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinct from aliens of foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve those doubts.” In other words, Minor did not settle the question of who was and was not a natural-born citizen, as the plaintiffs claim it did, it deliberately left the question open (as does the constitution, which does not define the term). The Supreme Court has held and lower courts affirmed that natural-born citizen refers to anyone born in the United States.” (http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012)
The Wong Kim Ark decision ruled that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen came from the common law and refers to the place of birth, and that every child born in the USA is a Natural Born US citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats.
MODERATOR
Tosay, at 1:11 PM (PST), I inserted an legal opinion written by Mario Puzzo Esq. , dealing with Obama’s ineligibility to be president, and is now in MODERATION. This article is about the same length as many that Ms. Ellen, an avid supporter of President Obama, has placed here, in which she bring the legal reasoning she sustain, to prove the contrary of what Mr. Puzzo adduces in his own article. I tried to place a longer version before, but it was erased, and therefore, after shortening it considerably, I do hope that this time the article written by this distinguished legal scholar is now permitted to appear. Thanks
Francisco Fuentes
Francisco,
Congrats.
your post was posted.
WJ has blocked this twice, here’s my third attempt (it’s well worth the read): http://vineoflife.net/2013/03/23/the-washington-post-hits-obama/ (Was actually from The American Thinker)..
Senator Trey Radel published on 1/16/2013: “Obama Impeachment Floated By GOP Congressman Trey Radel Over Executive Action On Guns” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/obama-impeachment_n_2488966.html
“Congressman Steve Stockman pushing Obama impeachment likens president to Saddam Hussein”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/16/congressman-pushing-obama-impeachment-likens-president-to-saddam-hussein-video/#ixzz2OacpRFXY
Stockman better check with Ellen first. She will set him straight!
The two things I admire most in Ellen, are her tenacity and endurance, in her endeavor of defending her Mesiah, BHO.
We do not find that type of veneration, even amongst our family members.
I have a feeling Ellen has a friend or two helping her. 98% of her comments are copied from her documents folder. I said to her one time “Tell me what you think is his experience and qualifications are to be POTUS?”
Here is her reply
Answer: Since the election is over what is the point? He has the two necessary legal qualifications to be president (1) he is a Natural Born US Citizen, as ten appeals courts and the denial of an appeal of one of them by the US Supreme Court have all determined; and (2) the voters of the USA determined in 2008 and 2012 that they preferred Obama to McCain and Obama to Romney.
According to her as long as a person is a Democrat, 35 years or older and has lived in the US for 14 years that is all the qualification he needs. GEEEEZE!!!
Re: “According to her as long as a person is a Democrat, 35 years or older and has lived in the US for 14 years that is all the qualification he needs. GEEEEZE!!!”
I repeat, the election is over so there is no need to discuss his experience. That was discussed during the election process and a MAJORITY of American voters considered that his experience and policies were better than those of Mitt Romney. That is what I think too.
Obama was born in the USA and that is what makes him a Natural Born US citizen. He also fulfills the 35 year age requirement and the 14-year residency period, and he was elected. Those are all the Constitutional requirements to be president. He is (1) eligible and (2) was elected. BTW, millions upon millions of Republicans also have the eligibility requirement—and they have a chance of being elected in the next presidential election, but not till then.
I repeat, the election is over so there is no need to discuss his experience.
You are right because Obama has NEVER had any experience or qualification to even be hired at a McDonald’s. He would not be able to pass a background check or E-verify. He has had his expences paid for all his life by other people. He is a leech and a parasite. If he had to live like a common person he would be on the street begging because he would not be able to find a job.
If a person apply’s for a job they need a resume. Gee why is that? Because the employer wants to know if you have experience and are qualified for the job. Obama was placed in officeby voter fraud. He keeps on betraying the American people, yet you insist on defending him. I am sure you will be happy when he is placed in office for life. I hope he will reward’s you with a nice tent in a FEMA camp. Then when the MUslims take you can either move, convert or be beheaded.
Re: “You are right because Obama has NEVER had any experience or qualification to even be hired at a McDonald’s. ”
You are one of many people who do not like Obama, but you lost the election. The 69 million people who considered Obama’s background and policies to be better than those of Mitt Romney won.
If course I do not like Obama. I do not like him because he is unqualified,an illegal, phony, lying, deceitful, manipulating, arrogant, narcissistic, socio-pathic, racist, bigot, half breed, bi-sexual, foreign national, Muslim pararsite. Which BTW are the same reasons you like and defend him. If O was a Republican would not be defending him!
Correction to this statement: “You are one of many people who do not like Obama, but you lost the election. The 69 million people who considered Obama’s background and policies to be better than those of Mitt Romney won.”
That should read: “”You are one of many people who do not like Obama, but you lost the election. The 65.9 million people who considered Obama’s background and policies to be better than those of Mitt Romney won.”
Sorry.
Yes Ellen I agree you are sorry!
Re: “If course I do not like Obama. I do not like him because he is unqualified,an illegal, phony, lying, deceitful, manipulating, arrogant, narcissistic, socio-pathic, racist, bigot, half breed, bi-sexual, foreign national, Muslim pararsite. Which BTW are the same reasons you like and defend him. If O was a Republican would not be defending him!”
Actually, until the Iraq War went bad, and they could not find WND, I spent a great deal of time defending George W. Bush, whom I considered a rational Republican, and I went to liberal sites and pointed out that Bush really did win the election against Gore and that while the US Supreme Court stopped the count, it did not give the election to Bush—and that according to subsequent counts by the AP, Bush really did win.
Re: “If course I do not like Obama. I do not like him because he is unqualified,an illegal, phony, lying, deceitful, manipulating, arrogant, narcissistic, socio-pathic, racist, bigot….”
Answer: Okay, you do not think he is qualified, and you think that he is racist, etc. But you were one of the losers in the election. The other side won. Obama is certainly not an illegal because he was born in Hawaii as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 all confirm.
Re: ““Congressman Steve Stockman pushing Obama impeachment likens president to Saddam Hussein”
And even he is not calling for impeachment based on the nutty idea that Obama was born in a foreign country or the legal theory that Natural Born Citizen status requires two citizen parents.
Congressman Steven Stockman pushing Obama impeachment likens president to Saddam Hussein
“… Most executive orders are really meant for the executive branch. He’s using it really for legislative and skipping the Congress. That’s a violation of the Constitution.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/16/congressman-pushing-obama-impeachment-likens-president-to-saddam-hussein-video/#ixzz2OakbVn00
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/16/congressman-pushing-obama-impeachment-likens-president-to-saddam-hussein-video/#ixzz2OacpRFXY
“Gohmert, a Tea Party favorite who recently claimed an assault weapons ban would have to include hammers, charged that the president’s action is “illegal” and grounds for impeachment. “The American Revolution was all about fighting such a monarchy — and that is not what the Constitution anticipates. It’s not something a Constitutional president would do,” Gohmert lamented.”
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/01/16/1457871/meet-the-republicans-who-want-to-impeach-obama-over-gun-regulations/
http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/ – 1.6 BILLION BULLETS BY THE DHS NUMBERS
“Bottom line, the numbers don’t add up anyway you look at them. They simply cannot use that much ammo, nor do they need that much ammo for their normal enforcement activity.”
“He was sold to us by the media.” “He comes from a hate America background.” “Anti-everything we stand for.”
http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-dr-chuck-missler-rips-obamas-background-identity-document-fraud/
Taitz Fights to Recuse Obama’s Justice Dept. Attorneys
Will Eric Holder’s DOJ Attorneys be Disqualified in Obama Eligibility Lawsuits?
(March-24-13) Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. is fighting to disqualify President Obama’s Justice Department attorneys and boss Eric Holder due to their perceived conflict-of-interest in filing claims on behalf of Congress, who had absolutely no idea what was being done on their behalf.
Excerpt: “U.S. Attorneys office/Department of Justice appeared in court as an attorney for the U.S. Congress, but went behind the backs of the members of the U.S. Congress and kept them in the dark in regards to Obama’s use of forged IDs and a stolen Ct Social security number.
PRESS RELEASE
When served with subpoenas, members of the U.S. Congress chose a different attorney to represent them: Chief Counsel of the House of Representatives. Attorney Taitz, who is representing the Presidential Electors and Presidential Candidates moves the court to recuse the Department of Justice from acting as as defendants’ attorney in the case due to fraud, due to unethical conflict of interest and due to filing pleadings in the case without any knowledge of the parties they claim to represent and taking a position diametrically opposite to the position of their clients.” -Orly Taitz [link] ~> http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=405928
http://benghazi-truth.blogspot.com/ (for full update) March 25, 2013
Excerpt: “And who defends the birth certificate? A mocking press and online ideological trolls with not one shred of analyses of the same document to back up their defense.
It’s becoming clear that Obama cannot possibly sustain this degree of scandal. Sometime soon the democrats are going to start to throw him under the bus to save themselves, as many Republicans did to Nixon, and when that moment comes, don’t be surprised if I write four simple words:”
“I told you so.”
Re: ““And who defends the birth certificate? A mocking press and online ideological trolls with not one shred of analyses of the same document to back up their defense.”
Obama’s birth certificate is not fake. Only birther “experts” have called it fake, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
And it is nutty to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii. (Oh, and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)
Same old BS you keep posting over and over.
They are the facts. Your calling it BS will not convince any rational reader on this site that the facts do not exist. The facts are quite clear that only birther “experts” have claimed that Obama’s birth certificate is forged, and that birther sites have not shown the real experts that I have cited, and that Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck and the National Review and Karl Rove and Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan do not believe the birther “experts”.
All of the rational people on this site are not on your side and they know the facts which you will not except. You remind me of a story my grandmother told me. A woman went to her son’s graduation from boot camp. As they marched by se saw her son was out of step. She said to the woman next to her. Will you look at that, All are out of step except my son John. You thonk all your BS is the truth. You have not posted the truth yet. Only what YOU want to believe!
Re: “they know the facts…”
Well, for the benefit of any rational person visiting this site who wants to see the facts that confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii, here are the links to the documents and articles that show the facts:
. Here is a short link to most of the documents:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/heres-the-birth-certificate/
That shows the short-form official birth certificate, known as the the Certification of Live Birth, in detail.
Here is the long form birth certificate in the photographs taken by the NBC reporter Savannah Guterie, and which she stated she had felt the seal on:
http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1024&bih=607&tbm=isch&tbnid=foQm3EVc9VfpUM:&imgrefurl=http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/06/savannah-guthrie-busted-again-hawaii.html&docid=iT_K26HN6hkJMM&imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dBWb0nPzjwY/T-0OEMY0QqI/AAAAAAAAFI4/xWAkN5UIo98/s640/SavannahGuthrieObamaLongFormHUWAII.jpg&w=600&h=450&ei=0PHlULPXBcrN0AH414HoAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=4&vpy=184&dur=1419&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=126&ty=85&sig=104976085004652425434&page=1&tbnh=143&tbnw=182&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:93
Here is the confirmation that the short form birth certificate is the official birth certificate of Hawaii and the only birth certificate that Hawaii normally issues:
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574320190095246658.html)
Here is the second of the confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm
Notice where it says that the document in the files VERIFIES that Obama was born in Hawaii. So, not only is there an official Hawaiian birth certificate in the files, but it says right on it that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii has never allowed the Department of Health to issue a birth document of any kind that says on it that anyone was born in Hawaii unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii, and that is what the officials in Hawaii have confirmed.
And here is the confirmation by the former governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican, that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html
And here is the statement of a witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, in 1961:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm
Here are the birth notices of Obama’s birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php
(And as you can see the section of the paper is called “Health Bureau Statistics”. Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)
Here is the Index Data file:
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html
Re allegations of forgery. It turns out that ONLY birther “experts”—who have not shown that they are even experts, and who CERTAINLY have not shown that they are fair and impartial—have CLAIMED that there is anything wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, and birther sites have not quoted the numerous real experts who say that there is nothing wrong with it. Besides, for the claim that the birth certificate being forged to have any effect, it would have had to have been forged and inserted into the Hawaii DOH files, because that is where the officials of both parties have stated that they saw it (and that document is the one that the clerk in Hawaii used to enter the facts on the form that generated the short-form birth certificate), and what are the chances of that happening? Besides, even that would not account for the teacher who wrote home or the birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961.
Hawaii is THOUSANDS of miles away from the nearest foreign country, and women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days. And Kaiploani Hospital is confirming that Obama was born there (want to see the two citations of that?) and Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii and she said in another interview that the first that her family had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
March 25, 2013 – Right from the losers mouths: “Natural Born Citizen ~> Born on U.S. Soil AND Both parents U.S. Citizens”
It’s despicable the way they joke about citizenship while America is being decimated.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/03/shock-audio-us-supreme-court-justice.html
For readers who would like to do their own research on this subject, here are some links:
http://www.fredthompsonsameric…
http://www.economist.com/blogs…
http://tesibria.typepad.com/wh…
http://tesibria.typepad.com/wh…
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org…
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org…
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/…
http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?…
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“Don’t just ask them to hold a special committee but demand that they hire a special prosecutor with no ties to the federal government, that was done in the case of Watergate.”
http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/congress-is-getting-the-message-on-benghazi/
Mark Levin had excellent fill-in last night (3/25/13). It was refreshing to hear someone speak of the election fiasco. He said: “DEMOCRAT PARTY HAS VOTE THEFT DOWN TO A SCIENCE.”
Nuff said.
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/13/is-it-time-to-roll-up-the-welcome-mat-here/
To all who “feed” ellen.
You are like the no-info nozombies……
ellen has been id’d many times over as an operative troll for nobummer.
ARE YOU on the same team?
I usually don’t respond, but incorrect facts (likely done with intent to decieve = lie)
and convoluted language cannot stand
Firstly, nobummer did NOT get 69 million votes are reported. That report is incorrect, misleading, false.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012
Secondly, that people voted on his background and policies is pure conjecture; unsubstantiated by any reliable neutral source.
With equal conviction I can report that people voted for nobummers promises of free everything.
So, wise up and ostracize ellen or confess that you are on the same team.
Case 12A606, now under review by SCOTUS, Dr. Orly Taitz Esq., through an expert who signed an affidavit about his findings, she identified that under California own electoral laws, and the registration requirements found therein, 1.5 million registrations still on the books, were illegals. If that is in just one state of the Union, we could easily extrapolated and see , how Mitt Romney lost the election. Voter fraud, combined with the 47 % of the takers, and the low-information voters, that Mitt commented upon, gave the election to the usurper.
At this pace, and with a DOJ that had the gall to sue the States that required photo IDs to be able to vote, in order to supress the prevalent fraud that ocurred, no one should wonder why in each future election, electing a Conservative to the presidency would become the Mount Everest of the American Elections.
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/13/is-it-time-to-roll-up-the-welcome-mat-here/
Ellen
The expert who reviewed the California voter registration files, signed an affitdavit, in which under the penalty of perjury, swore that according to the California registration law, 1.5 million registered voters, were breaking those laws.
From people who were dead who were still on the files, people who gave place of birth as the USA, instead of City and State, some with no first name given in the registration, all in all a panoply of irregularities, which for you might not matter, and which do not give any importance, as to how a proper election needs to be conducted.
But to those of us, that believe in respecting the law where we live, these idiosyncracies are quite important, if we ever going to respect the result of an election. Go to Dr. Orly Taitz Esq. website, and open the evidence files submitted under case 12A606, and those documents would give you a hint as to you how wrong you are, as to your assumption of the purity of the 2012 election.
How can someone be so naive? If it’s 1.5 mil in California alone, can you imagine the true number of illegal voters throughout the country? Really mind-boggling that they defend the indefensible. And now we learn that voter registration appears within the 61 page 0bamacare application…pandering to the underclass again.
Re: “If it’s 1.5 mil in California alone…”
Yeh, IF. If cows could play basketball, would they make it to the Sweet 16?
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/13/is-it-time-to-roll-up-the-welcome-mat-here/
I have no idea. Would they make it to sweet 16? You have all the answers.
To anyone who is tracking this case:
Please post relevant updates
my911
Case 12A606, taken under Conference on 2/15/2013 by SCOTUS, is as of this moment still awaiting an Order of Certiorari from that Court.
Even though more than 500 cases reviewed on that date have been denied Certiorari, 7 weeks later, the Dr. Taitz case is still under review.
Go to Google, write SCOTUS, you would see the Web of the Supreme Court, access Orders on the left hand, there press Order List, and go to 2/19/2013, where the cases reviewed on 2/15/2013 were given an Order for Certiorari, or Denied such an order. You would see that more than 500 cases have been denied Certoriari, and on the first page you would see case 12A606 without an Order as of today.
For those who want to view the brief and the evidence presented to the Court, go to Google, write Dr. Orly Taitz Esq., and her website would appear. Over her picture you would find at the upper part, links written in red. Go to the one that says Grinols Orders, Summons, TRO, Complaints, hit it, and three links would appear, where you can review the brief , evidence submitted, and affitdavits of experts, attesting that the SS, BC and Selective service application of BHO, are false documents, and fraudulently manufactured.
Good luck, and pass it on to your family and friends, this information needs to be diseminated throughout the USA, and thus end the news blackout imposed by the Obamamedia on the nation.
Thank you Francisco. I am going to paste this in Facebook. Stand by for Ellen’s BS. HAHAHAHA
Below, I believe you can navigate to the brief and evidence of Case 12A606, as explained above.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=dr.orly%20taitz&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orlytaitzesq.com%2F&ei=owJSUbf0MsPS0wGivICYAw&usg=AFQjCNGjFzWPbfiXL8V0OXOYdg6x6cc7Kg
Francisco,
You link took me to Taitz’s website.
It is loaded with stuff but I couldn’t find what you are talking about.
I did google and found a link to the Supreme Court……..
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/12a606.htm
… but it seems to stop on Feb 19 with a note………denied.
Please provide a more current, direct, link.
To all fellow Patriots:
By Jim Campbell, Citizen Journalist, Oath Keeper and Patriot.
“Numerous patriots, Donald Trump, and Sean Hannity among others have agreed to pay to keep the White House Open for the visitors and Children.”
“Barack Benghazi need not lie, he fools no one, all know he lies when he speaks on any topic dealing with his role in the government.”
“Obama is dead set on making We the People feel the pain of his lied about sequester so not he is attempting to turn his lies into his self fulfilling prophesy.”
“Indeed the White House is the People’s House in spite of the vermin currently occupying this hallowed residence.”
But Jenny, O needs that money for his daighters vacations and other various expences.
Oh yes, it’s Bahamas this week, Atlantis on Paradise Island. Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to even take one vacation in a year? Can’t remember our last vacation…
To all Patriots: PPSIMMONS
23 minutes ago (March 26, 2013)
Lt.Mike Zullo To Be On FREEDOM FRIDAY – TAKING QUESTIONS!
Lt. Mike Zullo will be on Freedom Friday With Carl Gallups THIS FRIDAY – March 29th from 5:30 – 6:00 PM CENTRAL TIME ( 20 minute segment ). Carl and Lt. Zullo will be giving a live presentation of their CPAC trip, the Col. Allen West debacle, and their plans on pursuing the Obama criminal investigation.
source: P P S I M M O N S