David Barton tells Glenn Beck that Obama will use the DOMA ruling to force military chaplains to perform gay weddings and compel Central American governments to legalize same-sex marriage.
Obama will not be able to force Catholic priest , in the armed forces, to perform gay marriage because it is an obamination to the Catholic Church and against our teachings. Obama doesn’t have as much power as he thinks he does. Some people actually have principals which HE can’t RELATE TO!!
The rules apply only to government marriages. No court or state has ever ruled that any religious group has to perform any kind of marriage.
What are “government marriages?”
Government marriages are marriages performed by a state official, such as a justice of the peace.
They are mainly marriages in states, but there may be some non-religious marriages under military law as well.
HOWEVER, there has never and will never be any order telling military chaplains (or any religious leader) whom to marry. If a chaplain or other religious leader does not want to marry someone for any reason at all, he has the right to not do it, and no one is ever going to challenge it. The Supreme Court’s ruling does not apply to religious marriages, and no future ruling would either—that is because of the separation of church and state.
That’s not entirely accurate..
Here is what the statement says: “The Administration strongly objects to sections536 and 537 because those provisions adopt unnecessary and ill advised policies that would inhibit the ability of same sex couples to marry or enter a recognized relationship under State law. Section
536 would prohibit all personnel related actions based on certain religious and moral beliefs, which, in its overbroad terms, is potentially harmful to good order and discipline. Section 537 would obligate DOD to deny Service members, retirees, and their family members access to facilities for religious ceremonies on the basis of sexual orientation, a troublesome and potentially unconstitutional limitation on religious liberty.”
In other words, the Administration is not forcing chaplains to perform gay marriages. It is objecting to a ban on the use of military facilities to perform gay marriages and a law that would prevent military chaplains from performing gay marriages IF THEY WANT TO.
(Some religions, such as the Unitarians, have indicated that they will perform gay marriages where they are legal.)
There is no such thing as “separation of church and state” in the Constitution. It is a lie perpetuated by the left as part of the goal to destroy America. It was intentionally misapplied from a personal letter written by Jefferson to a minister in an unofficial capacity and has NO weight of law or any other legal force. It is one of countless LIES put forth by the left, it must be exposed as a lie and exposed as being part of their plan to destroy America. Sadly, the SCOTUS has upheld that lie but those decisions are NOT lawful as any true, unbiased constitutional scholar will acknowledge.
Re: “There is no such thing as “separation of church and state” in the Constitution. ‘
So according to you the states and the federal government have the right to tell the Unitarians or the Catholics whom they have to marry? Or, perhaps, the states and federal government could forbid certain religions entirely??
The words read: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”.
It would certainly NOT be free exercise of religion to force chaplains to perform gay marriages, and it has not been suggested. But equally it would NOT be free exercise of religion to forbid chaplains from performing gay marriages.
If preachers believe in God and the Holy Bible, they will refuse to comply. This might destroy their career however it is better than turning their backs on Christ.
Then why do you have gay Catholic priest.These priest are an obamination also like obama is.
1. They are not “gay” they are HOMOSEXUAL. I will not allow you to misrepresent the truth by using the wrong word.
2. Every religion has homosexuals including Protestants. Your bigotry is showing.
3. Protestant ministers have been shown to be involved in scandals at a higher percentage rate than Catholics. Look it up. I did and it is factual.
4. Yes, homosexuality is an abomination, but that is not limited to Catholics.
5. Why is it that bigots like you insist on attacking religions to which you do not belong, especially when it has nothing to do with the topic being discussed? It is shameful as well as divisive.
not today, honey. I have a headache
Rational people will notice that stevor has not discussed the issues or the facts.
Go away, ellen. This is not a radical left blog.
It is a blog that welcomes both sides, and rational people would like to see the facts. I have shown the facts by quoting the White House’s actual statement on this issue. It says:
“The Administration strongly objects to sections536 and 537 because those provisions adopt unnecessary and ill advised policies that would inhibit the ability of same sex couples to marry or enter a recognized relationship under State law. Section 536 would prohibit all personnel related actions based on certain religious and moral beliefs, which, in its overbroad terms, is potentially harmful to good order and discipline. Section 537 would obligate DOD to deny Service members, retirees, and their family members access to facilities for religious ceremonies on the basis of sexual orientation, a troublesome and potentially unconstitutional limitation on religious liberty.”
And that statement does not force chaplains to perform gay marriages. It objects to provisions that would prohibit them from doing so if they want to.
The Faker in the WH is about to find out that walking will be more difficult if you try and take those slippery steps when you find that your feet are now just bloody stumps below the ankles…….The stench of BO fills the air.
There is no evidence that Obama even wants to try to force Chaplains to perform gay marriage. And the Supreme Court ruling applies ONLY to government marriages. It has no effect on religious marriages whatever.
Ellen, you don’t know what you are talking about, do a little research. Chaplains have alreday been told “to get in line, or resign.” Here’s nother example: http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/05/nancy-pelosis-insists-that-military-chaplains-be-forced-to-perform-homosexual-marriages-chaplains-protest/
Re “get in line or resign.” There is no such provision under law, nor have you even shown one order that Chaplains must perform certain kinds of marriages.
Someone wanted there to be a protection against chaplains being ordered to perform such marriages and Pelosi indicted that she opposed it. Why? Because, duh, it is unnecessary. It is just as necessary as inserting into the Defense Appropriations Act that senior officers shall be forbidden to order Chaplains not to collect stamps in their spare time or not to eat chocolate. IF there was evidence that Chaplains had been ordered to perform certain kinds of marriages, then there would be a reason for such a provision. But there is no evidence.
The Catholic Church, by the way, is opposed to gay marriage. But it has never said that it worries about forced gay Catholic marriage because it knows damn well that no state (much less the federal government) has even proposed such a thing, and if it did it would obviously be unconstitutional.
Re: ” Chaplains have alreday been told “to get in line, or resign.”
But you have not shown it.
Unconstitutional??? Are you crazy. Most everything obama and his thugs do is unconstitutional. obamacare is unconstitutional but nothing is done about it.
If you say so! But BHO’s audacity of telling Ireland & others that Catholic education should end shows what he expects of the world! He is Muslim and believes we are beneath him! I a blast for him: Muslims are the very scourge of the earth.as far as people. What they do to their females and their marrying of very young females (8 and 9 years old) is pedophilia! They treat them worse than any animal and kill them for looking cross eyed at them. Read “Islam & sexuality” for a real education on this cult! How this applies to Michelle and their daughters, I don’t know…..I suppose they have their double standards as well. ??
Obama did not tell Ireland (actually, it was Northern Ireland) that Catholic education should end. Birther sites made that up. All that he did was recommend that more Catholic and Protestant students go to the same schools. He never said anything about “end” or “cease” or “terminate.” Nor did he say that there should only be public schools. What he said is that more Protestants and Catholic children should attend those public schools so that they could get to know each other.
Obama is a baptized Christian (Rev. Wright’s church) and so his his wife and his daughters.
Reallyi love the guy, doncha? Who told you obama was a baptized Christian? Did you hear what obama said about our Holy Bible? Apparently you do not listen to what you do not want to hear. All you want to hear is good things about obama. Well obl (obama lover), there are no good things. Wake up, do a history study.
Ron, 23 years US Army (Ranger Combat Veteran Vietnam). We did not fight for the likes of obama.
Sammy Davis Jr. converted to the Jewish faith.
YOU’LL full of crap you know that liberal tard.
Obama is a baptized Christian.
I do not see him being Christian acting in his life. He is a dipped nonbeliever, he spews as much hate and racism as that so called Rev Wright.
Ellen, have you been promised a lackey job or what? OPEN YOUR EYES, read Christian Doctrine and then try to tell everyone Obama is a Christian. You can be sprinkled or dunked, that does NOT make you a Christian.
Re: ” You can be sprinkled or dunked, that does NOT make you a Christian.”
True, but that is up to the person himself or herself.
The fact is that Obama is a baptized Christian, as is his wife and his children. If you do not LIKE the way that he practices his religion, well too bad for you—your side lost the election on November 6, 2012, So the guy who was baptized, but the way that he practices his religion you do not like, is the president of the USA.
ellen, how many pieces of silver did the traitor Ovomit pay you to waste our time with your liberal lies? Ovomit may have, MAY have been baptized but that does not make him a Christian. He is the son of a muslim which by muslim law makes him a muslim. He works daily to remove Christianity from all aspects of American life, public and private. He publicly stated America is no longer a christian nation. He has appointed muslim brotherhood members to DHS which is treason. I could go on but you won’t listen anyway. Just go away and take you nonsense back to your commie friends.
I do not get paid a cent. Do you?
Re: “He is the son of a muslim which by muslim law makes him a muslim. ”
Answer: He is the son of an atheist (possibly two, but his father certainly was), does that make him an atheist? And conservatives constantly tell us that Muslim laws do not and should not apply in the USA, and they don’t—but then they think that because a religion considers someone a member of that religion she or he has to be. Well, it isn’t true. Having a father or a mother who is a Baptist does not necessarily make the child a Baptist. In fact, quite a few children of parents from one religion switch to another religion.
Re: “He has appointed muslim brotherhood members to DHS which is treason. ”
Sure he has. Why not try to convince you congressman and senators of that “fact,” and see if you can get even one of them to believe you. The USA is not a “Christian nation” because, duh, Jews and other religions can become president—and someday one of them will.
HEY BUDDY OVER THE TOP! One should NEVER threaten the president , I bet yoour gonna have a knock on your door IDIOT!
If so it will prove that obama lied again. He already faced the nation and informed such that they did not read e-mails or tap telephones.
A chaplain who professes to follow God will tell the illegal Kenyan to go catch fire. A chaplain who marries homosexual partners dishonors God. If I were a chaplain being told I had to officiate over an abomination, I guess I would be fired and get dishonerably discharged. Better that than to burn.
No one has ever ordered chaplains to marry homosexual partners.
Maybe he is going to announce that Michelle is really a man in drag , and that his lifetime membership in “Mans Country” the gay club he is a life member of !!! Lot of firsts here first un-American President, first semi black President (actually he is a Muslim) , first male “first lady?” first gay President ., Ya got people really picked a weiner this time !!
Why do you think he was so thrilled when that basketball player admitted he was gay???
And we got the whole package just by reverse discrimination. The country voted with their remorse and guilt instead of their brains.
No, they considered that Obama was better than John McCain in 2008 and better than Mitt Romney in 2012. That is all.
What ever happened to the separation between church and state !
Good point. Because of separation between church and state NO ONE has every ordered chaplains to marry homosexual partners. (in fact, no one has every ordered chaplains to marry anyone. Chaplains can refuse to marry two people simply because they are not of the chaplain’s religion or the two have different religions. So the idea that someone had ordered chaplains to marry homosexuals is truly nutty. It never happened. It will not happen.
I agree… There isn’t anything at all reliable about Obama “forcing” anyone to perform marriages of any kind. This topic is just the kind of bait that’s used to get people feeding off their own desires. To feed off of anything that goes along, no matter how inaccurate, with their preconceived ideas.
This simple minded Muslim must keep his nose out of religion!
This fagola Obama has to go Some have wondered if those kids are really his and his wife is a trans-sexual. You have to wonder. One thing for sure. He is a muslim Marxist.
will the muzzturds have to do the same?
No, muslims are exempt just like they are exempt totally from following the lie called Affordable Care Act.
No one of any faith should be “compelled” to do anything which they find goes against their beliefs. Any couple can get “married” by a justice of the peace, (a judge), a ships captain on a vessell or even a “lay” person who has an internet certificate giving them the tool to perform civil ceremonies. Gays obviously do not believe what Christians and Jews believe on the teachings of our holy books. Therefore, what “government” has mandated be put together, no man or woman of God, the Father, should be dictated to by said government to do! The government should keep its nose out of these types of matters. I do believe anyone can choose their beneficiaries.
No one is forcing anyone to perform any kind of marriages. Nor do gays want laws that force religions to allow them to be married (which would be unconstitutional if such a law were passed, btw.) The right of gays to get married applies only to civil marriages in certain states, not to the religious marriages in those states. And no one has required or will require chaplains to perform any kind of marriages that they disagree with.
This will prove to be interesting with muslim countries. What will obama do with homosexual soldiers in those countries?
aj………I hadn’t thought of that.
Perhaps he will invite them to spend the night in the Lincoln bedroom?
I am so glad I raised my four kids and they had a good Catholic school upbringing. They are fine productive men in their 20’s today with a strong Christian faith as their foundation. My heart goes out to the kids to come…they will be so confused on what is morally correct, because ANYTHING goes. Holder is trying to do away with HOME-schooling and Obama mentioned doing away with Catholic and Christian schools. Sharia law is what he wishes will dominate America which will take our country backwards to primitive barbaric times in the treatment of women. Obama fits all the signs of the ANTI-Christ. Forcing Christians into repression so he can push his Muslim Brotherhood agenda and Islamic religion. Try as THEY may, 80% of Americans are Christian; so as Obama, Holder and MUSLIM Valerie Jarrett try to do away with our buildings and Institutes that we worship in, “The Muslims” will NEVER be able to remove or destroy GOD fully because he is embedded in EVERY person’s heart who believes, THAT fact will never make Christianity die. Americans have been an open respectful people. We have made mistakes in our history of existence, but try humbly to correct them. We have ALWAYS tolerated and respects ALL peoples faiths and differences where we could all opening worship as we please. NOW comes Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood trying to undo our religous existence. FORCING its WILL and religion all all. It will get worse…but knowing that god and Jesus’s teaching are etched in my heart, knowing how he faced turmoil and hatred for what HE stood for, makes me be proud to stand up for him and his teachings when the time comes. Pray for our future children…the schools are indoctrinating them with their poisons. FAMILY becomes even MORE important then ever for their strong foundation as examples of what morality should be and truly is.
Has anyone decided to challenge the ILLEGAL ALIEN INDONESIAN EXCHANGE STUDENT who overstayed his student VISA to produce a REAL BC, SSR and SSN? All the Nazis in Congress are Traitors.
Oh, and he is a Crack Addict, Cocaine Dealer, Male Prostitute and Complicit to Muerduer. Just Google Larry Sinclair or read his book. The Kindle version is only #9.00 at Amazon. Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: cocaine Sex Lies & Murder.
Obama was born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices all show. And he was never an Indonesian citizen, as a call to the Indonesian Embassy will confirm.
As for the rest, dream on.
I know you really want to believe that Ellen, but there is a huge amount of conflicting evidence indicating forgery of the birth document he released, and his time in Indonesian schools and his citizenship at the time, the probability that he attended US school as a “foreign student”, confusion on his social security number, etc, etc, etc. One or two or even three problems you might ignore, but so many? And if there is “no fire” why is there so much smoke? Why has Obama purposely and expensively hidden and sealed all his background, education, and work experience? It appears to many of us that he is a fraud, but we know for sure Obama has less experience and qualifications than any president ever elected. He is a lightweight in the heavyweight division. The chaos and corruption in his administration demonstrates that. Plus, the US and Obama is now the butt of derision and jokes from other countries, including some of our allies. He gets no respect from them, and he deserves none.
“The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth, are people with something to hide.”
Barack Hussein Obama
Re: “huge amount of evidence.”
Then perhaps you will be able to tell us whether or not Obama’s mother had a passport in 1961? Why should we start to think “maybe he was born in a foreign country?” if we do not even know that she had a passport? And perhaps one in a million women traveled late in pregnancy in 1961 because of the high rate of stillbirths. Why should we start to think “maybe he was born in a foreign country?” if the odds against Obama’s mother’s traveling are so high? And the officials of both parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed Obama’s birth certificate.
Obama’s birth certificate is not forged. Only birther “experts” have called it forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
And it is irrational (to say the least) to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
(Oh, and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)
Re: “Why has Obama purposely and expensively hidden and sealed all his background, education, and work….”
Answer. He hasn’t. Those things are covered under the normal state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain did not show their educational records, passports or the other things that you mention either.
Did you ever wonder why obama has all his college papers sealed and he pays a lot of money to keep them sealed. Every wonder where he got his passport from? Every wonder what happened to that passport? By the way, what is your background in investigative work. I was a counterintelligence agent and a federal investigator. How about you?
His college papers are not “sealed.” They are protected under the normal US and state privacy laws, and neither Mitt Romney nor John McCain nor any president has shown their college papers—–so why should Obama. Obama has a US passport, and the White House has even showed a copy of it. (and for him to have come to the USA from Indonesia on any other kind of a passport than a US passport would, duh, have required a US VISA on that passport, and that would have had to have been applied for in Indonesia, and there is no record of such a thing happening).
Hitler lied to the Germans on a daily basis, too, as you do.
Ellen….you’ve never lived in Hawaii have you. The aloha spirit is alive and well in personal lives, business and government…..whether your agenda is right or wrong. They are very, well, what is that popular term…oh yes, ‘user friendly’. I love the place and respect myself….so I do things right…it’s always the best way to live your life…..also no lies to have to remember or get caught up in.
“Oh, the tangled mess received when first we practice to deceive.”
No, I never lived there, but I visited for about a week. I agree, it is a lovely place and the people are very nice and kind and racially mixed—so what’s wrong with that? None of that proves that Obama was born in any other place than HAWAII. The officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the short form and long form birth certificates to Obama and that the facts on the image of the BC that the White House has published are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.
For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:
(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank, and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;
(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);
(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).
If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.
So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?
Add TRAITOR to your list of his crimes and it will be more complete, though not totally.
Why not try to convince your congressman and senators that Obama is a “traitor”–and see whether they laugh at you, or simply ignore you.
Approval of Gay marriage all boils down to-what do you say and what do you tell children when you see two men holding hands and kissing?-What does a public school teacher say about a husband and a husband? How does anyone comment on the marriage of,or engagement of two men? What does anyone say about children having two mommies or two dads? Do all school texts and story books have to be discarded and replaced with alternate terms for husband and wife-even male and female (if transgendered). What do pastors and priests say and do about marriage,and how do all of the cake and any businesses having to do with weddings react? How are state and federal marriage laws now changed and affected by using tax money paid by those who disagree with the violation of our religious beliefs?
Finally, how does God, who blessed and aided the establishment of our great Judeo/Christian nation react to this satanically inspired mis-interpretation of secular and yes,Biblical principles?
Re: “What do pastors and priests say and do about marriage…”
Answer: They will do exactly what they have been doing for thousands of years. The ruling about gay marriage applies ONLY to government marriages, not to religious marriages. And the stuff about “Obama to force chaplains to perform gay marriage” is made-up crap.
What’s next? Don’t ask; don’t tell. But, I will envision, anyways.
The White Hut messiah will be forcing clerics to perform human/animal nuptials.
‘Mary had a little lamb.’ — That’s what she gets for sleeping in the barn with the ram.
Neither Obama nor anyone else ordered chaplains to marry homosexuals or to marry people of different religions. It did not happen, and it will not happen. This site is simply pulling your chain.
Loved it dusel1………… can’t stop laughing.
Guess he thinks he’s God now…….
There are only a few Muslim Chaplains in the US military. Nevertheless, one wonders if Obama would force them to perform ceremonies for same sex couples! Homosexuality is an abomination in Islam. But, if he forces other Chaplains to perform such duties, Muslim Chaplains should do the same. He would probably say, “That is a non-issue since it is unlikely there are two homosexual Muslim military members, and they would certainly not attempt same-sex marriage!” [ If they did, they might be quietly executed because they profane the Prophet and bring “dishonor” on the community.]
I am still trying to figure out how does one insult a man, the so-called prophet (may pig fat be upon him eternally) who is a pedophile, murderer, liar, polygamist, thief, plagiarist, bigot, and more?
Nobody is forcing chaplains to perform any kind of marriages.
The Muslim Chaplains can perform these. Christian Chaplains WILL NOT perform them if they are True Christians.
You can bet the farm that Muslim Chaplains will be exempt. The Gay life style is a terrible sin by Muslim teachings and is often punished by death in Islamic countries.
Maybe we can use these dam DOMAzzed rulings to arrest Obama.
The plan is to demoralize the Military, Churches, schools, the American people in general, have the Mexicans come in to compete with the blacks for freebies, a tribal war between the Mexican and blacks who are both supposed to gang on the whites. Then barry Shebazz/Sotoreo (or womever) can scam the blacks into all joining the Muslims, until the brown ones fight with the blacks ones and and dupe them into doing the scud work because they are not born Muslims. Barry knows exactly what he is doing. He will NOT do it, because the Conservative White and Black Christians will stop it. It is time to run the the traitors on the right and left out of Washington.
The Gay movement that ram-roded this decision can now join the ranks of useful idiots. They could be in for a very rude awakening. The Gay and Woman’s movements better enjoy your same sex marriages and your woman’s rights while you still can. Some simple research will show a small up and coming group. Their numbers are growing everyday. Some have already gotten into our Congress and the courts. Democrat Representatives Andre Carson, from Indiana and Keith Ellison from Minnesota. We also have Judges Mark Martin from Pennsylvania. David Turfe from Michigan. Sohail Mohammad from New Jersey. Halim Dhanidina from California. David Shaheed from Indiana. The list goes on. What the two congressmen and the judges have in common is that they all are Muslims. Representatives Carson and Ellison want the public schools to model the Madrassas and the Koran as their foundation. Carson made that point on May 26 last year in one of his speeches. A little research of their cases will show that the Judges try to impose Islamic Shariah Law in their decisions when ever they can get away with it. Some will say that the two Congressmen are juniors with no real power. True enough but I would remind them that Chuck Shummer, Harry Read, Nancy Pelosy, the President and many others all started out as juniors with no real power. Gays should pray to all that is holy that Shariah Law never takes over our court system, or it’s back in the closet for them. The Gay or homosexual life style is a terrible sin by Muslim teaching and such activity is often punished by death. The Woman’s movement will loose everything they have worked so hard to accomplish and will become subservient. Liberal Christians, Jews, the unions, the apathetic non-voters, and all the useful idiots will also be in for a rude awakening when they are no longer needed. I say be afraid. Be very afraid. Just because some liberals in our government seem to want to allow same sex marriage, how do we know that isn’t just appeasement? I pray that I’m wrong. To those who don’t believe that it could happen, I have two questions for you. What if I am right? Can you afford to take that chance? Wake up America.
sarge, it won’t be the closet. It will be stoning.
All the Chaplains should form a letter to BO with all their signatures and tell him to drop dead. If this happens they should all quit in mass protest. It’s decades past time to start getting in the face of these perverted parasites in gangsterment and have it out with them. Our side needs to grow some nuts and quick.
I think what people are failing to see is that this is being promoted as a win for the liberals when in fact its not a win for anyone… The supreme court justices simply said they didn’t think they had a constitutional right to oversee this case and placed it back to state’s rights where it was before. What happened next is the Gays and Libs all began to promote the idea it was a win because in their mind if you participate then you get a participation ribbon and therefore everyone is a winner… Everything is as it was before and States don’t have to recognize another state’s ruling of gay civil unions.. I say civil union because Marriage is union of one man and one woman before the eyes of God and no matter what bills or laws they pass… it will always be that in my mind…
“David Barton tells Glenn Beck that Obama will use the DOMA ruling to force military chaplains to perform gay weddings and compel Central American governments to legalize same-sex marriage.”
Read what it says there….. Just that line…. It doesn’t say Obama has done this. It says that David Barton (of the Wallbuilders) says he will……. I read the references some have posted too….. No game there either…. I have a sneakin’ hunch that Obama won’t do it either ! We’ll see…… In the meantime, at least quit bringing anyone’s family into this hosed up mess. That’s the lowest of the low. Regardless of how you may perceive a family member of a politician, it’s plain wrong to go there !
Why do you need a chaplain to marry these people ,why do they not just march to congress and get obama to marry them ,they seem to get what they want , A chaplain is a person that marries A MAN TO A WOMAN, they want to get there own kind to marry them ,there are enough GAY chaplains and preist , let them do it. GAY MARRIAGE = GAY CHAPLAIN, simples.
No one has told chaplains that they HAVE to perform gay marriages. However, if a gay chaplain (or for that matter a straight chaplain from a religion that allows gay marriage such as the Unitarians) wants to perform a gay marriage, that is different.
Will obama force muslim clerics to marry gay people , or just behead them ?.
He cannot discriminate against the muslim faith.
Obama will not force chaplains or clerics of ANY religion to marry anyone.
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