Whenever the Fox Business Channel is mentioned one hears the familiar refrain, “If you don’t get it, demand it! This week proved why this is so: the channel, which challenges Republican Party orthodoxy, exploded with talk of impeaching Barack Obama for his non-recess “recess” appointments.
Rep. Bill Johnson, R-OH, started things Thursday when he told Neil Cavuto, “Tomorrow morning, I’m going to launch an effort to reach out to attorneys…to give me their views” about whether Obama had violated the Constitution.
“Whoa, whoa! You just buried the lead here!” Cavuto said. “That sounds like an impeachable offense.” Johnson replied, “Yeah. If they determine this is a violation of the Constitution, I’m going to ask them to represent me in a lawsuit against President Barack Obama to hold him in compliance and accountable with the Constitution.”
“If you are not doing something the Constitution says you should be doing, that’s an impeachable offense,” Cavuto responded. “What you’re telling me is that if lawyers agree upon investigating what you’re saying that the president has ignored the Constitution…what you’re telling me is that the president has committed acts that are impeachable offenses.”
Congressman Johnson stated simply, “If that’s what it’s called, if that’s the legal term for it, then that’s what it’s called.”
On Friday, Neil dedicated much of his show to the controversy. Cavuto said if the president is guilt of violating the Constitution, “that, my friend, is the technical definition of impeachment.”
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It’s funny you should ask!! Just early this morning I went to Speaker Boehners site, as well as my Congressman’s site and mentioned to them that America see what is going on, and we see Congress just sitting around letting this president do whatever the hell he want’s and not a Congressman or Senator doing anything to stop Obama from doing his criminal acts. It look as tho they are all afraid to do anything to stop the president. I am personally not going to stop putting pressure on them until this president is impeach, that is my only goal. Obama is a criminal for breaking the Laws of the land, and just because he is president doesn’t give him the right to break our Constitutional Law, and even if I am the only Citizen that does anything about Obama’s Criminal acts, than so be it,but I have a feeling I am not alone.
Michael11, You are one of the few people that say what you think. I admire folks who do that. In order to lead the orchestra you have to turn your back to the crowd. I’m am in your corner 100%. All people like you and me do is watch CONgress do nothing about everything every day. If we did that kind of crap on a job we would be shown the door. It’s time to show them the door. I want OJUDAS as far away from America as is possible. But first I’d like 5 minutes with him out behind the barn. What that arrogant smart ass SOB needs is a good old fashioned ass whoopin’. I will tell you this and on this you can depend. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Anytime you need back up I’ll help. I’m sick of watching all of this destruction happen to my country. I once upon a time took an oath and in the oath it states clearly that “I will protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies both FOREIGN and DOMESTIC.” There is no statute of limitations on that oath. It’s just as real to me as it was when I spoke it. OJUDAS is an enemy of the Constitution AND AMERICA. We MUST deal with that accordingly.
Thank’s Ed, at time’s when I read the comments, I can feel there hearts, but they are just like us we can comment, and comment, but until we get of our ass and start doing something a little more tangible, like at least contact the Majority leader of the Senate Harry liar Reed, the Speaker Boehner, and even Obama himself, this is just a start. The more people that contacts our rep’s the better they know we are on top of the issues. The whole problem has been when everyone is working, they don’t contact their rep’s, because everything is good, now everything is so damn screwed up that most still don’t do a thing except comment. Everyone need’s to be persuaded to contact everyone they can think of, or else join a resitence group, but that would have to be the last resort.
Eddie and Michael11, there is an organization called “the Oath Keepers”. You should join them. There are millions out there that are wondering also, why hasn’t Congress made Obama prove his eligibility!
I believe like you do that he is not a US citizen, he is a puppet of George Soros and others like him pulling the strings. If we don’t wake up and take action, he will destroy America as we know it. Don’t count on anyone in Congress to step forward on this matter and you can’t count on our court system to because it is as corrupt as Congress. Just look at the Supreme Court not hearing the arguments on this birther matter.
If the facts be known, there is a very serious question whether Obama is President.
There is no logical reason that our leadership in the Republican party who control the house shouldn’t do their constitutional duty and start a process to impeach Obama. There is enough outright abuse by him not withstanding the most recent going against the constitution in the recess appointment while the congress is still in process. Even if the Senate will not go along, at least we can bring up his eligibility fo be president since he is not a naturalized citizen. They can supena all his school records, his birthcertificate and many unanswered questions that would vettle him and admonish his unconstitutional actions once and for all before the election. He should not be able to run again regardless due to all the above.
While I believe this is an Impeachable offence it is very minor compared to the many acts of TREASON he Holder and Napolitano have committed, all three of them should face a fireing squad and having served in the U S Army i would also like to be on that squad.
I read today at infowars that Obomination’s eligibility is going to be vetted at the Supreme Court. A group had gotten his school records from Occodental College and they showed that he attended as a foriegn student from Indonesia and used a government grant for foriegn students. If this is true (and I believe it is), then Obomination is guilty of spying, and Holder, Napolitano, Kagen, Sotomeyer, Pelosi, Reid, and a slew of others will be out of work and complicit in his actions. Such treason is punishable by death. It seems that prayers are being answered.
hijinx60, Good news, good post. We will see if some nay voters on the Supreme Court should be charged with treason. I’ll bet Sheriff Joe’s report is going to be the end of Obama.
I fear you’re looking at Obama disinformation that was rebutted as an April Fool’s joke.
I suspect that the original phony news dispatch and the “rebuttal” were by the same author, calculated to confuse birthers and discredit them.
We need official investigation, compelling sworn testimony in open hearings, and subpoenae of original documents, and real evidence such as DNA with a verifiable chain of custody.
I meant to add that a judge in Georgia has agreed to hear this same thing from Orly Taitz. She has tried to get a hearing for three years.
Good God! The world has gone mad! Grounds for long-overdue impeachment are being trivialized!
With all the overwhelming reasons for impeachment hearings, including the actual identification of Obama and resolution of his probable loss of American citizenship in becoming a naturalized citizen of Indonesia, why in the name of all that’s holy do people seize upon garbage like this to raise impeachment?
Hate to look a gift horse in the mouth. Glad for long overdue support for impeachment hearings from any quarter, for Obama is continuing to play the birthers and eligibility skeptics like a toreador plays the bull, but I wish people could think straight.
We’re on the brink of disaster and nobody will start an official investigation to find the relevant and material facts on Obama’s eligibility (including possible loss of his U.S. citizenship), the truly compelling grounds for impeachment such as obstruction of justice in concealing evidence of his true birth parents and his Indonesian citizenship, fast @ furious and similar criminal activities, and Obama’s true allegiance that would prove a false oath of office, a fundamental ground for impeachment. Even if the facts show Obama to be technically eligible as a natural born citizen who retained U.S. citizenship to this day (which is possible) there are grounds for impeachment – far beyond procedural niceties – that should have been acted upon months ago.
Thank the RINOs for selling out the country. The People gave House RINOs the power to do their duty and conduct a thorough investigation, taking the fight to the head of the snake, and the RINOs refused.
Obama is going to be tied to 9/11, that’s when all of this started. And that’s not all, the group behind Obama is going to be arrested as enemies. Get out of the UN, no to the NAU and NWO. Bring the troops home, stop these illegal wars and audit the Fed. One candidate only will do this, Ron Paul.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
We’re so far behind we need to catch up.
Official investigation of Obama will carry the fight to him and lay the foundation for removal by impeachment or otherwise, even if he is found to have technically retained U.S. citizenship when he acquired Indonesian citizenship.
Unfortunately, plaintiffs’ counsel are falling into Obama’s trap. They are quibbling about an alien father while Obama is sitting on an undisclosed original birth certificate showing two citizen parents, and ignoring the real issue, whether Obama lost U.S. citizenship by voluntarily becoming naturalized as an Indonesian citizen with the intent of relinquishing U.S. citizenship. By the time they get to the real issue, it will be too late, and we will be gored by Bush, et al. v. Gore et al., 531 U.S. 98, 108 (2000) ): “The press of time does not diminish the constitutional concern. A desire for speed is not a general excuse for ignoring equal protection guarantees.”
Incidentally, five will get you ten that neither of Obama’s actual birth parents is Negro, and that’s one of the principal reasons why Obama does not disclose his original birth certificate. The other is to distract birthers from the real issue of possible loss of citizenship by foreign naturalization. The hysterical fetishes that Obama must be proved ineligible at birth, and that his father was a Negro, completely corrupt the analysis of plaintiffs’ counsel. They are like a bull charging the toreador’s cloak.
What we need are the facts, which official investigation is required to disclose. But the RINOs in the U.S. House won’t investigate because they think Obama is half Negro, although investigation, starting with subpoenae of Obama’s DNA and vital records, will disprove that.
The evidence will probably show that a little over a half century ago, a man named Stanley Armour Dunham contrived to have a son, his heart’s desire, which his wife could not give him. Very possibly he arranged an in vitro fertilization procedure calculated to produce a male offspring. He arranged to have his daughter Stanley Ann Dunham and their communist friend Barack Hussein Obama the alien black Luo tribesman adopt the little b – out of wedlock child – d at birth. Stanley Ann absented herself from the island to conceal the fact she wasn’t pregnant. She probably went to Seattle. A story was concocted that she had gone to Kenya for laying-in and birth, hence the birth of the Kenyan birth myth. When she divorced the Luo, she produced a phony Kenyan birth certificate for the divorce court, the first of many phony Kenyan birth certificates, production of which has become of late a Kenyan cottage industry.
Well, the evidence might not prove all that background, but analysis of Obama’s DNA will prove that it is biologically impossible for Obama to be the son of a Negro father and a Caucasian mother. The original birth certificate will verify Dr. Fukino’s 27 July 2009 statement that Obama was a natural born U.S. citizen, both birth parents (of known genetic heritage consistent with Obama’s DNA, probably a Caucasian father and Polynesian mother) being U.S. citizens. No? Subpoena the evidence and find out. Both the original birth certificate and the genetic analysis will disprove the 27 April 2011 proffer of a “birth certificate” and the official autobiography in which Obama steals a racial identity that is not his.
Obama fraudulently claims his adoptive parents as his actual birth parents so he can pretend to be half Negro, and make racist appeals for votes while denigrating critics and opponents as racists.
If Obama is allowed to qualify on the basis of an adoption certificate, which he trotted out as an original birth certificate on 27 April 2011, it will corrupt and change the law. If it’s rejected, he can produce his original birth certificate under seal and subject to an order of no further disclosure.
Then, eligibility AT BIRTH having been adjudicated, people will conclude it’s all over and forget the question of whether Obama retained his U.S. citizenship. But Obama can’t be a natural born U.S. citizen if he is not a U.S. citizen at all, even though he was a natural born U.S. citizen at birth.
The State Department points out that foreign naturalization is, like a conviction for treason, a potentially expatriating event:
POTENTIALLY EXPATRIATING ACTS
Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. citizens are subject to loss of citizenship if they perform certain specified acts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Briefly stated, these acts include:
1. obtaining naturalization in a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA);
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7. conviction for an act of treason (Sec. 349 (a) (7) INA).
See http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizensh…
The invocation of public investigative authority, like a congressional investigating committee or a court, is necessary to get the facts. Obama will deny he became a naturalized citizen of Indonesia. Evidence that he has concealed or refused to disclosed will probably prove the contrary. He will deny his naturalization was voluntary or with the intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship. But the finder of fact can refuse to believe him. Why should the investigative agency believe a pathological liar who lied about the identities of his own parents, and his Indonesian citizenship?
Plaintiffs seeking judicial resolution of Obama’s eligibility should request the court of original jurisdiction take full time to conduct hearings of sworn testimony and subpoenae the documentary and real evidence necessary to determine whether Obama voluntarily became an Indonesian citizen with the intention of relinquishing U.S. citizenship. Perhaps a retired judge should be appointed as a special master to find the facts.
The facts elicited by a public authority such as Congress, a state legislature or a federal or state court are as important as the conclusion reached or action taken by the discovering authority. Those facts can be used by other authorities for their determinations. For example, secretaries of state can use them to determine whether to allow Obama on the ballot. Rank and file Democrats can use them to decide whether to re-nominate Obama. Prosecutors can rely on them to bring information or convene a grand jury to investigate criminal allegations against Obama and others.
Moreover, thorough investigation of Obama will almost certainly disclose his obstruction of justice and sedition.
And we are likely to get none of this with the current approach of plaintiffs’ counsel.
I’ve learned that counsel will not listen to me, so I will try to approach the court directly as a true amicus curiae, friend of the court, proposing the court of its own motion take over discovery, verify Obama’s eligibility at birth by subpoenae of his DNA and vital records, and conduct the necessary extensive fact-finding to resolve his current U.S. citizenship status. Thus the court can resolve Obama’s constitutional eligibility under Article II Section 1 of the Constitution without wasting a lot of judicial time on his status at birth and disabling itself from thorough consideration of the real issue, his possible loss of U.S. citizenship.
Sorry, this comment was really on another article, but it still explicates the urgent need for congressional investigation of Obama himself as a foundation for the U.S. House’s considering and adopting a bill of impeachment.
By the time a thorough House investigation is concluded, even the Democratic Senate will be ready to convict and remove Obama upon the return of articles of impeachment.