While speaking at the Women’s Foundation of Colorado’s 30th anniversary gathering Tuesday night, Obama said she did not hide her feelings when she was called an “ape” or otherwise described unflatteringly.

Women’s Foundation of Colorado president and CEO Lauren Casteel said Obama “broke a glass ceiling by becoming the first black first lady.”

When asked to describe which one of the “falling glass shards from that glass ceiling cut the deepest,” Obama reiterated that racial slurs and having her body image criticized affected her most.

“The shards that cut me the deepest were the ones that intended to cut,” Obama said.

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“Knowing that after eight years of working really hard for this country, there are still people who won’t see me for what I am because of my skin color” was another problem she cited.

Obama said she can’t pretend the insults did not hurt, because doing so would give those doing the hurting a free pass.

“Women, we endure those cuts in so many ways that we don’t even notice we’re cut,” she said.

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“We are living with small tiny cuts, and we are bleeding every single day. And we’re still getting up,” Obama added.

Although she largely stayed away from politics, Obama did make a few comments perceived to be aimed at the current president.

While she reiterated that she would not be seeking public office, Obama said she and former president Barack Obama intend to stay in public service and make their voices heard.

Casteel asked Obama if she believed the country is falling apart, suggesting that President Donald Trump has played a role in such a condition.

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“The people in this country are universally good and kind and honest and decent. Don’t be afraid of the country you live in. The folks here are good,” Obama said.