If you are over 70 and need stroke care, they are not going to treat you, they are going to give you “comfort care”. You must listen to this Neurosurgeon speaking out. It is scary.
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So now I am a unit. Not a mother, grandmother, great grandmother. How dare Obama to say I am not worth saving. I still have things to contribute. I have hills to climb and horizons to see. When Obama and his family get the same health care I might think different but I don’t think so. No one can tell me those who made these decisions are going by the same laws. I hope GOD will prove them wrong to think they are better than the rest of us.
You will find the answer to that last sentence in first John 3:1-21, then Luke 23:39-43 and finally Hebrews 9:27&28.
There is but one way of avoiding eternity with obama and all that serve the democrat, and that way is found in the first two references above.
I will make it easier! Here they are:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrstTHe8nwM
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaQapLjBCNo
p1 is 49:20 minutes long
p2 is 51:42 minutes long
I would like to ask if any of the elected idiots have moms or dads over 70 who this will apply to? If we the people have to use this garbage then why don’t the elected liars and crooks? I saw in our paper today that if a person is 60 or older you could end up paying up to $5,100.00 over the cost of your premium. They are targeting smokers and obese people and the law does not allow them to charge more for obese people. I live in the first state to have the death with dignity act that if you have 6 months or less to live you can choose to do what you can to get out of this world. I have a DNR in my Dr. office and with my kids and there is no way that this gay illegal American hating Muslim can make me just be a vegetable because I am over 70 and don’t deserve medical. Obama needs to be impeached and now before he completely destroys what is left of the greatest country in the world.
God bless you
Obama is the idiot unit
They need to be impeached and run out of office.
Praise God for honest people who believe in all our rights and freedoms.
check this out.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/neurosurgery.asp
This THING we have in the White House is Nothing But a Death Dealer!!! And these Republicans just sitting on their hands doing nothing about His Treachery is Just as Complicit in My Eyes!!!
If you wait for a part or congress or the courts to save you, you will die waiting.
They took the ‘offer’ they couldn’t refuse. Very few, if any, in ‘gov’t’ should be trusted–yes, they are complicit.
An interesting audio piece.
I am a retired Army officer. One very proficient in arms. I am nearing 70 years of age.
Allow me to direct this statement and pledge to any Hospital Administrator in my service area.
You do not have to obey an illegal order.
Furthermore, if I or any of my family over the age of 70 should be in your hospital and require emergency neurosurgery and you refuse to allow emergency life-saving surgery, but instead order “Comfort Care” – Know this: I will find you and perform emergency neurosurgery on you with my 1911.
With all due respect, as first an 0317 and then a 0230, I always learned and taught, kill the commander, not the pvts. you, sir, may go for the low level, maybe that’s what the Army does, But, I sir would suggest going for the head of the snake.
Amen – I think there are many who feel the same way as you do about this business
The next week to ten days will tell. Is there Scripture for what I see about to happen?
Yes: Judges chapter three. I thought Romney was at lunch with obama for just this but alas Romney like obama serves the democrat and there will be no solace or freedom coming from there.
GDub45, If you get caught, tell them you are just using your “cost saving” method of providing “comfort” for yourself!
Citizens from coast to coast are getting prepared like never before in history. It’s coming. The parasite oligarchs have been getting away with extortion, high treason and the selling off of the country. They magically get elected for their entire lives like the three witches here in kaliforniah. It’s sickening beyond description. The citizens should know every representative who betrayed them.
Every body in this Country should know that we have a dictator in the White House.
But, over 50% of the people receive entitlements from the Government and there is no better incentive
for them to to let him dictate .
When the day comes, and it will , that those entitlements are stopped because the US cannot borrow any more money, Then you will get the change that and they will also !!! BE READY, Just saying
I’m thinking, and I know this is wrong, but maybe only those who work should be voting? I mean, the leeches of society are voting for those who give them the freebies. Meanwhile, us working folks end up with less pay so the leeches get a free phone and everything else. Not talking about those truly in need or those who put in their work years. You never know when it could be you really needing the help. But these who sit on their asses, are here illegally and get benefits they’re not entitled to, these are the people who should not be voting. There were so many documented incidences of voter fraud and illegals voting more than once!
Yet nobody does nothing when the evidence of fraud is presented to them, NAMELY law enforcement!
Wow. Great report. I find it revealing that The New York Times completely missed and or ignored this story. Where are the real reporters, real journalists, and real investigative reporters?
Busy kissing backsides.
I’m sure this wasn’t opened to the media because it was a medical seminar. Fox has reported on it but of course you know what repercussions that drew. Sarah Palin talked about it often and the MSM tore her apart. The only way this will end is if the Republicans take the senate in 2014.
At GDub45:
My former fiance is now 70. He did not believe anything I said about the evil person residing in OUR WH.
Notice I said former, he would not listen about the Palliative Care that was coming or the Death Panels.
I was not able to deal with his naive delusions so we mutually decided to split.
I will cry when it happens to him but it is no longer my problem to deal with any longer.
I would do as you plan to do if someone decided to not help any of my family or loved ones.
Thank you for serving our country, sir. I salute you!
Of course “Death Panels” target specific ages and people. The disabled are left to die w/o help. People are not persons, like in Nazi Germany, they are units. If a unit has a stroke or heart attack they are allowed to die without help. Anyone on medicare is not helped.
Yeah , democrats and who wrote this thing, should be called The New Nazi Party.
Demorats-progressives are the new name for communist.or facist.
I have read everything I could to find on “Sarah Palin’s death panel” and found out I am a UNIT 70! I have posted comments for months concerning the death panel and what being a Unit 70 means to me as an eighty year old woman. There are so many dumb and uninformed posters…one man answered my comments and told me I had nothing to worry about if I have a medicare card! Others tell me I do not have the slightest idea about what I am talking about…now, maybe those who rebel when the death panel is mentioned will open their eyes and their ears!!!!
83% of the doctors are either thinking about retiring or changing fields…I know some will not believe me…I ask you to google and find out the truth if you don’t believe me. With Obama adding so many to Obamacare…there will be a HUGE shortage in primary physicians!!!!!!
There is no reason to punish people 70 and older. This is evil what obama is doing. These older people deserve good health care. They are our moms, dads, uncles, aunts and our friends. They are our soldiers and all the other people who fought, protected and built this wonderful country. They deserve respect. The notion that those who get old and aren’t useful anymore is so evil that it makes me think of Hitler and the nazis who killed the mentally ill and the invalids. Obama is no different. What we must do is defy the wrong that obama is doing. Don’t be a useful idiot and go along with his unConstitutional laws. Obama is working to break the back of the world’s greatest country. He hates us because he is a Muslim and he believes in communism. Obama is a pathological narcissist just like Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Che and Mao.
According to http://www.truthorfiction.com, this is not true. It was aired on 11/23/2011 and the American Association of Neurological Surgeons (AANS) say it was untrue. Please, is it true or not? This makes a big difference!!!
My neurosurgeon that has done my 4 back surgeries told me that the information they’re getting appears to be so.
Open your eyes yes it is true obamacare does have death panels
april, a number of years ago, I saw a debate on CSPAN about euthanasia. This was during the Clinton years and the people at the debate included the Surgeon General from the Netherlands who said they had doctor assisted and doctor authorized euthanasia on the elderly patients who they deemed had no “quality of life” or were non productive. There was a woman there from the Clinton administration that had a senior level position with Social services and agreed with the Doctor from the Netherlands. She said it was appropriate to euthanize the useless elderly as a cost savings measure! I couldn’t believe what I was hearing but I DID hear it! I don’t know what came out of that debate but the fact that they even discussed euthanasia for our elderly made me wonder what the future holds under the Democrats. The MSM did not cover this debate. Most Democrats have no problem with killing the unborn so why would they have a problem with euthanizing the elderly? Wasn’t it Attorney General Janet Reno that sent in the army tanks against the “Branch Dividians” and killed innocent woman and children without a bit of concern and didn’t she keep the media at a distance so they couldn’t see what was going on?
It’s time for Obama & our congress to visit the Treason panel of WE THE PEOPLE and the firing squad
I have been saying that since the first week that man got into office. He is a usurper and a very very dangerous mentally ill latte person. He forgets that he is 50 and will also become 70 or 80 unless some lucky devil is a crack shot. Enough said/
The government won’t be on this insurance. They’re exempt.
I will do the same thing the first thing is to finds out whos who be fore you get sick. In a hospital you canno’t keep that secert. I will make somebody pay with every thing they hold dear. Thats all I have to say about that.
DA COMMUNIST NI66GER WILL ONLY TREAT the young skulls full of mush;; they will work their ignorant as666es off to pay for the Marxist pricks social agenda into oblivion;; useful idiots as they say.
Truth or Fiction says this isn’t true & why am I supposed to believe them? Maybe the caller wasn’t a “brain surgeon”! Who knows what to believe anymore? There is no truth & honor, just Liberal Lies, but if it is true, the entire “media” should publicly apologize to Sarah Palin for treating her like a psychotic loon for trying to inform the uninformed about O’Dumbo’s “death panels”!
Most of us know this “usurper” is NOT an eligible president & I seriously doubt that he won either election legitimately (probably 10% + was voter fraud); so why are we following ANY of his unconstitutional “orders”? Just because traitor, John Roberts & the other 4 brain fried justices SAID this “monstrosity” (that they admitted to not reading) was “Constitutional” doesn’t make it so! The Supreme Court no longer rules by Constitutional Law. They rule by their own AGENDAS. Most of us KNOW that everything any of our so-called “leaders” are shoving in our orifices, are unconstitutional; so WHY are we even considering abiding by them? If Ronald Reagan or George W. had even SUGGESTED anything this fool has, they would’ve been swinging from a tree on the White House lawn!
The doctors took an OATH to take care of ALL people: so they need to tell these “imposters” that they will NOT go against their oath & will NOT comply with this 3000 page piece of unconstitutional crap…period! The hospitals & other medical facilities should do the same (as well as businesses & everybody else)!
If our representatives won’t de-fund this nonsense, then WE, the people, need to de-fund it ourselves! We’ve all been whining about everything this Communist Regime has done & how our representatives aren’t representing us since they’re either afraid they’ll be called racist because this phony is HALF black or they’re terrified of this regime or they have the same agenda as this administration! So here we are, 4 years later, still whining & doing nothing to stop this!
It’s past time that WE do something to turn our nation back into the Republic it was founded to be. We’ve been waiting for someone else to wave their magic wand & fix this mess. In the meantime & 6 Trillion Dollars later, these left-over, brain-fried, revolutionary hippies have almost succeeded in collapsing our country. If these thieves were trying to “repair the economy”, WHY in God’s name would the “head thief” spend $7 million for one vacation? Why would they throw BILLIONS of dollars in Solindra & other idiotic adventures KNOWING they would fail? Why are they sending 20 F-16 fighter jets to Egypt, but trying to disarm its own citizens? Why are they advertising for even MORE lazy bums to take advantage of welfare, food stamps & other entitlements when they’re already bankrupting us? Why would they continue to send money to the UN & to other nations when they have to either “borrow” or send “counterfeit” money to them while America suffers? They do it to hurry along their “fundamental transformation” of the USA into their “own image” of the Third World crap hole they want it to be.
If we don’t unite & do something soon, the USA is going to be over & we’ll all be “put down” like terminally ill pets like millions of Jews were! Are we just waiting for history to repeat itself?
Commies MSM will NEVER Apologize, these are not mistakes by their journalistic investigations… They are intentional lies designed to decieve and provide cover for this marxist scumbag usurper sitting in the whitehouse… People need to understand the liberal commies in the alphabet networks are not Journalists… They are political hacks and shills for the progressive (communist) movement currenty overthrowing our constitutional form of government.
THIS BLACK RACIST, ILLEGAL, NAZI, DICTATOR,COMMUNIST, MARXIST, RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORIST, TYRANT (THE EIGHT FACES OF AN EVIL, PSYCHO-PATH) IS DOING EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID SINCE 2007. FROM THE MINUTE THIS RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORIST STARTED RUNNING HIS LYING MOUTH, I KNEW WHAT HE WAS BECAUSE I HAD SEEN HIS FACE AS BARRY SOETORO IN NEWS CLIPS WALKING AROUND IN HIS MUSLIM HEAD WRAP TEACHING MARXISM. IT WAS PUBLIC SO I DON’T SEE HOW ANYONE COULD NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS AND IS. THIS NAZI, MUSLIM TERRORIST AND JEWS HATER AND SOROS, THE NAZI WHO HELPED KILL JEWS HAVE PLANNED FOR YEARS TO DESTROY AMERICA, KILL ALL AMERICANS AND YET THE IDIOTIC AMERICANS SIGNED ON (VOTED) TO HELP HIM. HIS OBAMACARE WAS DESIGNED TO HELP IN THE KILLINGS. I ALSO WROTE WHEN OBAMARE WAS FIRST SIGNED THAT IT WAS NOTHING BUT A DEATH PANEL LEGALIZATION. I ALSO THINK THAT “HOSPICE” IS A DEATH PANEL. A LOT OF INNOCENT DOCTORS WILL BE KILLED BY LOVED ONES FOR NOT HELPING PEOPLE 70 AND OVER. OF COURSE, THE DOCTORS SHOULD REFUSE TO AID AND ABET (HIPPOCRATIC OATH) THE TERRORIST AND HIS CRIMES. CONGRESS SHOULD BRING CHARGES AGAINST THE TERRORIST AND STOP ALL THIS INSANITY THAT HE HAS BROUGHT ON AMERICANS BUT WE KNOW THEY ARE A BUNCH OF MILLIONAIRE CRIMINALS AIDING AND ABETTING (HIM) WITH NO DAMN GUTS BECAUSE THEY LOVE STEALING FROM THE TAXPAYERS FOR THEIR “HEALTHCARE”. EVERY IMBECILE, ILLITERATE, DONKEY, ASS WHO VOTED FOR THIS TERRORIST NAZI SHOULD BE ARRESTED (ALONG WITH HIM) FOR AIDING AND ABETTING TO DESTROY AMERICA, SENT TO GITMO AND ALL SHOT BY THE FIRING SQUAD. THIS NAZI TERRORIST TOOK HIS FIRST STEP TO DECLARING DICTATORSHIP BY THE OATH TODAY AND LYING ON TWO BIBLES. WHERE WAS THE QURAN (KORAN)? HE PROBABLY TOOK THAT SECRET OATH WITH HIS MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD EARLIER. HE ISN’T FOOLING SOME PEOPLE. EVERYONE (CONGRESS) IS WORRIED ABOUT THE “DEBT” BUT THIS TERRORIST NAZI CAN HAVE A $BILLION INAUGRATION!!! IDIOCY, CONSPIRACY AND TERRORISM AGAINST AMERICAN TAXPAYERS AT ITS FINEST!!!!!!!!! WHERE ARE THE PROTESTORS “FOR” AMERICA? THERE’S PLENTY OF PROTESTORS “AGAINST” AMERICA. GUESS ONLY THE PATRIOTIC AMERICANS WITH GUTS ARE 70 AND OVER AND THAT’S WHY THEY WANT TO KILL THEM OFF BECAUSE THE TERRORIST HAS REALIZED THAT FACT AND FEARS THEM!!! THIS NAZI TERRORIST SHOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED BEFORE HE TOOK THE OATH AGAIN. THE “GENERIC HONEY” THAT “DRIPS” FROM HIS LYING LIPS IS REALLY “DEADLY VENOM” AND HIS A$$ LICKERS ARE SO BRAINDEAD THAT THEY KEEP LICKING IT. TRUE, INTELLIGENT AMERICANS NEED TO WAKE UP AND TAKE AMERICA BACK BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
The irony is lost on the libs and obots on the Obozocare issue.
Obozo and Sebillius has already achieved what they intended from the affordable care act. That is to charge MORE and provide LESS… Typical government bait and switch, always to prop up their self serving corrupt system as they exempt themselves from its effects while they impose it on the people.
And to think that approximately 90% of we the people (approx 350 million) are paying for 10% (approx 30 million) of the people that will be on Obummercare…w0w now that is a disgusting and depressing thought. Let alone the total debt to we the people will be at least 100 times larger than that which was originally guesstimated for the expense/debt of Obummercare was going to cost. How does one put a price on a 70 year old person? Now, there are rumors of raising the retirement age to 70!!! So, my guess is if D.C. does this, the retiring person has a ZERO chance to live long after working for say (52) years in the public workforce as a TAX SLAVE. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT HUH??? WOW My grandmother was born on Christmas in 1896 and she passed in 1997 at 101 1/2 years young. All of her life she was a dedicated lady to family, she owned hotels, restaurants, she even went to college and was an RN. This grand lady had more value to all of her family members in unlimited ways (i.e. love, caring, and a dedicated Christian), as well as employee’s that she employed through her lifetime.
Obviously Presidential orders and Congress feel that death panels are needed for the soul purpose of not wasting money on people that have no value to pay into their open ended coffers anymore, and that order comes from a sitting prez whom we the people don’t even know from whence he came? other than HE_ L. We are in serious trouble here folks and I personally will be blogging or watching cartoons on tv today since there will be nothing of interest on any of the other deadbeat soros owned main media channels worth watching. I recently read soros owns 1/3rd of the stock for Time Warner Cable no wonder we have so much violence, biased news and garbage on tv nowadays. I also read soros owns most of the newspaper outlets nationwide. Why not? huh?
The internet is our only source to find out real news and communicate so far without too much gov interference and now that is being worked on too thru the U.N. to control and/or shut down, and I also heard that O is on the security board at the U.N. and that Panetta recently said at a commissioned hearing that he and O will take their orders from the U.N. for any international military emergency that appears and not get Congresses approval. Talk about open treason can’t get much bolder. Amazing on national tv he did say that.
Again we are in serious trouble people, and the gun grab as well as an unstoppable prez and his minion czars, cabinet, etc are all going to kill whats left of our Constitution. Our beloved Bill of Rights died with NDAA. I recently listened to a Lt. of a police dept (face hidden of course) for over 30 years from N.C. who said right now the local police, marshals, and military are training for marshal law to be instilled within the next 45 to 90 days or less, aha beware of the ides of March as the saying goes. In his voice I heard nothing but fear. God help us all. Apparently, after the first election and now the second stolen election in which 10 to 12 million Christians opted NOT to vote AT ALL…amazing, their votes helped put us where we are today, and well I guess none of us that don’t fall in line with open arms and praise to the current marxist regime will have to worry about death panels at age 70. It will be the FEMA camps that have been established all over this country in remote areas. I watched a documentary on the History channel as well regarding FEMA camps with thousands and thousands and thousands of plastic coffins stacked very high row after row after row. Why so many??? Well guess why.
The reality is there is not going to be any particular group or organization that will form to aid, protect and defend we the citizens or our States. The Dick Act of 1903 certainly speaks for itself for each States National Guard will not be allowed to protect it’s own citizens in their perspective States, if I read that law correctly. I AM open to correction here. How does a State defend itself against F16′s, tanks, (which have been shipped by the hundreds on rail for the last couple of years to various places in many States), now the rumor of supposedly 30,000 drones??? That averages out to 600 drones per state OMG, and that is based on FIFTY (50) states not 57 as some foreigner said about five years ago. Good luck with that huh??? Certainly a single shot rifle or ten in a clip of a handgun is a no brainer non contest against such equipment that the feds have at their discretion to use against it’s own citizens…look at Syria, now that’s a prime example. Talk about a reality check and a very very sad situation and future and/or for our children, grand children, parents and grandparents. Tears here for sure to think about how our beloved country in a matter of just forty eight (48) MONTHS has literally gone down the porcelain goddess. Sure someone will tell me I am a fear monger, talking doom and gloom about things to come, but convince me otherwise that we the disarmed (by Exec Fiat) and the unarmed citizens can take a stand or even have a chance in HE_L to defend ourselves. And to think that WE the PEOPLE paid taxes to our local, State and Federal governments to turn against us and on us with our names on those hollow point bullets. Now, that is something, huh? WOW …God bless us please one and all.
When treatment is withheld and the person dies, will the family be allowed to sue for malpractice and a wrongful death?
Are the trial lawyers going to stand down on this? This is going to cut into their wallets a bunch.
Does that sick piece of shinola in office get denied brain surgery, not that it would help, when he has something happen to his brain????
Next, I am waiting to hear that Obama has a mandate for all 70 year old registered Republicans or Libertarians who are sick to allow to die and refuse them treatment, but progressive socialist dems try to save…
So everyone on the left demanded Free Healthcare so that those who could not or would not afford it had it. Well there is an old saying, “Be Careful of what you wish for, you may get it.” Well folks here it is. You will be denied care if you are of a certain age or have had health issues or even life sustaining Medications. Next it will have to be based on Race, who will have preference.
The Lawyers are going to have a field day with this. If a Doctor makes a mistake, he is sued. Now he is told that he must deny treatment when he knows he can save someones life or prevent further damage. Lawyers know what is medically possible and they are going to make Billions. This panel will not stand for long
No, the lawyers won’t have a field day with any of this because, according to the ‘healthcare reform’ regulations, nobody will be able to bring a lawsuit against any doctor or anyone concerning this ‘reform’. So no matter how bad the ‘care’ may be, our rights to sue for malpractice or any other injustice will be gone.