Liz Cheney told Sean Hannity recently that the Benghazi 9-11 cover-up was probably one of the worst cover-ups in the history of the republic.
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o’bama is a total fraud, born under a lie and an illegal occupier of the white house. I’m not sure who put him in the office and why they did it, but it kind of now seems that it was done to give us a “taste” of his agenda (the Soros agenda for a Fascist New World Order run by the UN) but with full knowledge that he could be “contained” and later “thrown under the bus”.
Well, I think this Libya thing is THE “throwing” of him under the bus. I think he was purposefully misled (easy to do when he doesn’t bother to go to briefings and with that enormous ego of his) by the War Mongers (backers of romney) so barry could be “dethroned” and get back to PERENNIAL WARS that the banksters love because they want to own the whole world and continually make money by backing BOTH SIDES of all wars (that they instigate).
We’re in “deep doodoo” with no REAL choice that is “for the people”.
How is wonderland? You are way off the topic as the banks of the world did not participate in Libyan attack.
WELL stevor:: What is your problem with Banks? They refuse to fund your POT Plantation or your Poppy fields??.Sounds like something of that nature happened to give you such bad heartburn twoard Banks.
so, what kind of MORON are you?
No, I don’t take drugs, not even aspirin.
The banksters have for hundreds of years backed BOTH sides of most (if not all) wars and thusly made most “governments” indebted to them.
How about educating yourself as to the REAL cause of wars!
i AGREE STEVOR. wHAT A MORONIC STATEMENT.
aND HERE i THOUGHT iCEMAN HAD A BRAIN TILL NOW.
Is this the voter suppression diversion group of Occupy?
Iceman … I understand perhaps your confusion and/or lack of understanding about what stevor is saying.
Unfortunately, what he is saying about the Banks’ behavior in reference to most of our major wars is true. Just like most arms dealers, the Banks are willing to provide their services to both sides of the equation. From their standpoint they are out for a profit and that profit comes in regardless of who eventually wins. Further than that, they can make extra profit based on what amounts to “insider information” and have repeatedly done so.
Then there is a “minor” fact that the Banks’ can, will and do often assist these wars to get started or exacerbate the situation once they do. Similar to the “Drug War” in the US of A, very few people at the very top actually want to see these wars end. It is not they themselves who are on the front lines dying. It is not they themselves who lose. The Banks make a profit in either eventuality and that fact has only gotten worse with the “multinationalization” of the banking industry.
I grant you that it is weird … it seems wrong … but then when stevor is talking about “Banks” he is not talking about your local small town bank. He is not talking about the branch down the street. He’s talking about a system of multiple extremely large “Banks” such as those that own and operate “The Federal Reserve”. They don’t care about you or me or Nations or Green Energy or … All they care about is Power.
how is wonderland Alice the subject is Libya attack on the U. S. Consul.
So it seems from this reply and your reply to me, YOU seem to be an o’bama TROLL. How much do they pay you for your comments?
America has been the most prosperous nation ever in large part because it was established in liberty, free enterprise, entrepreneurship, equal opportunity and equal protection under the laws — not in socialism.
Voter suppression is not a part of this.
@stevor
Yes stevor, siquijorisland is a first class troll.
He’s followed me all over this site and I’ve seen him troll others just as he’s doing you now. Best just to pay him no attention as he’s not matured yet…
Michael
yes i know who mike is i have seen him all over the internet and he is the most active troll i have ever seen are you one also?
News flash . .
Fox news Sunday – Brit Hume challenges the investigative reporters to find the truth about Benghazi as he looked at Bob Woodward of the Washington post and Watergate fame . . . then he took on the issue of Biden and the WE statement that the WH did not know – Hume looked at Wallace and asked when you have “any” Administration person on like UN Rep Rice who gives you approval – Wallace had to answer – he did not like answering this but yes the WH issued the approval – so now how could they say – we were not told? BS by the truck load.
Unfortunately no different that Operation Fast and Furious, he and his henchmen and hench-women will continue to get away with all of their crimes, including murder. If things get too hot Obama will simply claim executive privilege, a prison term would be far too good for him.
Answer to Stevor Blogger: It is obvious Susan Rice should be fired as she is at top; any further up, is Hilary then Obama. Should we fire all three? I say “Yes” resoundingly on November 6, 2012, by Everyone in America, who cares about our country, and WHO IS REGISTERED TO VOTE, AND VOTES. Further facts of a crime by all, they knew the security was lax, were asked time and again for more and heavier security, and got the answer, “that’s all you get, you don’t need more”. Yet, looking at this complex in middle of desert area, it is obvious “game” for the “animals”. Obama just did not CARE! Another point here: When SEALS asked repeatedly since March before, to go into secret hideaway of Osama bin Ladin’s, Obama did NOT want to, repeatedly. When it came to a crisis stage to take advantage of situation and “get” him, guess who signed the “go ahead and get bin Ladin” papers/permission? Leon Panetta. It is all out there on Internet under Western Journalism.org website. Remember pic of Obama sitting alone in chair near West wall with his golfing jacket on, staring, eyes bugging, at mic’s and sound? The room full of Administration are all to left of Obama, as he had been pulled off of the golfing course to come hear the happenings by SEALS. Again, Obama had consulted with Jarrett his closest mentor, and told NOT to go get bin Ladin, and again, Jarrett was probably behind Obama NOT sending more security to Benghazi.
It seems all too coincidental that there just happened to be two heroic ex-Navy Seals within the area of the location at which the ambassador was taken.
When I look at the rabble of jihadists running amock in the courtyard of the building swinging RPG’s around like so many untrained idiots it just doesn’t make sense that members of that group may have employed coordinated mortar fire accurately and effectively. I am a US Army veteran. Two of my Military Occupational Specialties (M.O.S.) were 11-Charlie (Heavy Mortar) and 13E-(Artillery Fire-Direction Control Specialist).
There is a defensive tactic taught in Army training manuals called the “Final Protective Fire, (FPF).
The FPF is a pre-plotted fire mission. The mortar squad or artillery fire-direction-control center plots a number of coordinates to basically lay down a wall of steel rain or even an impenetrable white phosphorous cloud and prepares firing data such as the elevation and deflection of the mortar tube or artillery piece, the size of the explosive charge to put behind the rounds to be fired–all pre-determined to fire quickly and accurately on a position or dangerously close to a position occupied by our troops intended to give those troops a window of opportunity to escape, continue holding their position or to counter-attack.
Consider this: the group that is on film attacking the embassy don’t look organized to the degree that they may have had leadership on a radio directing the fire of mortars onto the buildings in which our personnel were held up, and even if they had that level of communication and coordination with a mortar team, small mortar fire would have been ineffective and not broken through the roof of –and I am assuming that the building was a hardened construction– a hard target; heavy mortar fire would have left far more devastating destruction which would have been clearly identifiable as indirect fire destruction upon the scene than what we observe on film taken of the location after the attack.
It is my contention then that the mortar fire employed, as reported from the scene of the incident, was Final Protective Fire delivered by the two Navy Seals who had been held up in a safe house with a mortar tube laid in by compass or even an M-1 Aiming Circle and X number of rounds pre-positioned with pre-determined cheese charges (plasticized nitroglycerin) already cut for firing.
The mortar was probably emplaced in a basement which had windows facing in the direction of the embassy because when the first round is fired from a mortar the base plate is driven sharply into the ground, so whenever they laid-in their mortar they would have fired at least one round and adjusted the firing data on that mortar at that time in a manner not unlike zeroing one’s personal weapon called a registration mission. It works roughly like this. A target is chosen, let us say a tree in a field. The target’s location is plotted on a map. The distance to the target is determined and the difference in elevation between the target’s location and the gun position is determined. With a compass the mortar is emplaced in a general direction of fire. The difference between the Grid North on the map and Magnetic North on the compass is compensated for so that the direction in which the mortar tube is facing equivocates to the same direction on the map. That way, the Forward Observer (FO) reporting adjustments and the person computing the firing data with a Map or a Chart are on the same ‘sheet of music.’
When the firing data is provided which, in a perfect world, SHOULD hit the target, and the round is fired, the FO watches for a “splash,” of dirt in the air where the round hit, or if an air burst, the air burst, so that he can relay the message back to the mortar position how far up or down or right or left the fire needs to be adjusted. The data is computed to determine adjustments to make on the elevation and deflection of the mortar tube and the amount of explosive charge to be used. The mortar can fire again for further adjustments onto target or simply apply the corrections obtained in the registration mission to their future computations of firing data which will be more accurate on account of having registered the tube, or in the case of artillery, the gun or piece.
Information has been released that several communications were made from the embassy building under attack.
I believe that the evidence shows that one of those calls was to a nearby mortar position which had been clandestinely emplaced in order to provide Final Protective Fire on the embassy’s position in case of a breach of the positions perimeter.
Had such an emplacement not been established those responsible for the local security of that embassy would have been remiss in their duty.
I believe that, after firing the last of their prepositioned FPF rounds, the two heroic ex-Navy Seals advanced upon the enemy attacking our embassy.
This is just a theory, but it explains a lot. Why the two men happened to be close by and why accurate indirect fire was reported as having been employed in the attack on the embassy.
It is my contention that the indirect mortar fire was our own FPF, fired as a last ditch effort at stalling the attack. I don’t know this to be a fact, but the likelihood seems more reasonable than to expect that the jihadist attackers who looked most disorganized in the films of their incursion onto the embassy grounds had employed the three coordinating elements of the indirect fire team: the men on the gun, the fire-direction control personnel and a Forward Observer, in their attack. Again I suggest that small mortar rounds would have been nearly useless against a hardened target and larger mortar rounds would have left far more evidence of their employment on the property.
The only useful employment of indirect fire in the attack on the embassy in Benghazi would have been as the firing of the Final Protective Fires upon the jihadist attackers. Small mortar rounds detonating with Variable Time (VT) fuses–as opposed to timed fuses or point detonating (PD) fuses–, that is to say about 20 meters above the ground with a mixed assortment of high explosive charges and white phosphorous (which their seemed to be a lot of spread about the compound burning) would have been a typically pre-planned FPF and as a 13-Echo and an 11-C, two of the three coordinating elements of the Indirect Fire Team, that’s what it looks like to me in the video’s that I’ve seen of the area of the attack.
This information is most probably being withheld from the public due to the fact that Final Protective Fires are an element in setting up a defensive perimeter taught in the Dept. of the Army training manuals and are surely ready to be fired on a moments notice at a great many highly dangerous government outposts within areas of operation highly susceptible to attack by Muslim jihadists.
Actually Lincoln’s coverup of his attack on Fort Sumter has been this country’s biggest coverup. Followed by the “reconstruction” of the whole country following that war. Then the coverup from FDR and his plans for antagonizing Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, which brought the US into WWII in order to help the British and the bankers. Then you have the coverup from Woodrow Wilson and congress in order to fight Germany in WWI, again in order to help Britain and the bankers. All these are larger coverups than anything Obama has done so far.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Is this the voter suppression, diversion group of Occupy?
The Bankers…..
What you didn’t know and never asked…
This is the best outline and article on the Khazar Bankers I have ever read.
It covers practically everything in a timeline.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Bankers.htm
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
thanks for the link.
No time to look at it now but I’ll look at it later
America has been the most prosperous nation ever in large part because it was established in liberty, free enterprise, entrepreneurship, equal opportunity and equal protection under the laws — not in socialism.
Look this up later also for a fresh perspective on the truth.
And the Rothchilds Timeline here. In PowerPoint
http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/RothschildsTimeline.ppt
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Truth and obama does not go together. He is a muslim terrorist and does everything to help their cause, even to the extent of killing our officials overseas. Congress is not much better. They should have at least attempted to impeach him but for whatever reason they are protecting the worst person in the white house ever. It will be interesting reading 10 or 20 years from now what historians say about this imposter. When obama gets out of office it will be interesting reading about all the lawsuits against him.
That would depend upon the twist that they want to put on this piece history.
Here’s another thought that should be looked into.
RICO act. Well, it looks to me like congress in its entirety and every person that works in it, the white house and every single person that works in it and draws federal paychecks, the justice department and every single person that works directly or indirectly and every single department there-in, and every single employee of the federal government of the United States of America regardless of job description is and has been involved in criminal activity as an organization and every member of congress, including pages, secretaries, mail runners and every single employee therein, and everybody that works in the white house and the justice department, every single worker for the federal government at every level should be arrested and charged under the RICO act as an ongoing criminal organization. That would include every judge, bailiff, secretary, toilet cleaner and every single worker in the justice department nationwide is and has been committing crimes against the Natural Born Citizens of the United States of America and should be arrested, jailed without bond until convicted of the crimes they have committed. Upon conviction they should be sent to prison, general population, to serve not less than life without the possibility of parole. Just like the drug dealers and anybody else that has been charged under that act. There Crimes will start with Treason. They have been lying, stealing and cheating the Natural Born Citizens of the United States of America. I can’t see any difference between them and the Mafia, if there ever was such a thing, or Motorcycle “Gangs”, or Gun Smugglers, Drug Smugglers or any RICO defined organization. When convicted ‘All’ their assets and I mean everything they own should be confiscated and put in the general fund to help the needy Natural Born Citizens of the United States of America. Everything they have was derived from their criminal activity while working in the Criminal Organization we know as the Federal Government. That includes all of their kids’ stuff and of course the wives and mistresses property. Seize, confiscate all property of any description. Freeze all bank accounts. Their sentences after a quick trial and conviction will be Life in, General Population, Prison without the possibility of Parole. Creation of construction jobs for a lot of new prisons for these poor folks. Give the sons and daughters the choice of Prison for life or Front Line Combat Positions. Well, they get a choice. Then we can go after the middlemen that were involved in defense procurement that were instrumental in ripping off the taxpayers for the last 75 years and we can prosecute the dead criminals posthumously.