31 years ago, the RNC entered into a consent agreement to settle a lawsuit brought by the DNC not to peruse suspected voter fraud or prevent voter fraud. The RNC has been held to that consent agreement to this day. Each time they go to court to remove the consent agreement, a particular judge comes out of retirement to rule against the RNC requests.
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New Jersey District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise, appointed by Jimmy Carter, ruled to keep in place a 30-year-old restriction against the RNC “which is national in scope, limiting the Republican National Committee ‘s ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention”
The judge cited voter suppression of minorities outweighing the impact of voter fraud.
There are serious reasons for concern of voter fraud:
1) Pew Research Center states in 2012 –
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“Voter registration in the United States largely reflects its 19th-century origins and has not kept pace with advancing technology and a mobile society. States’ systems must be brought into the 21st century to be more accurate, cost-effective, and efficient.
Research commissioned by the Pew Center on the States highlights the extent of the challenge:
- Approximately 24 million—one of every eight—voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.
- More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.
- Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
2) The American people support voter ID laws by an overwhelming 74% (Washington Post.)
Hispanic Americans support voter ID laws by an overwhelming 71 % (Pew Research Center.)
3) The presidential election of 2000 was won by only 500 votes.
4) Local elections can be won by just a handful of votes.
5) People who believe their vote does not count or will be canceled out by fraud are unlikely to bother to vote.
Multiple left leaning groups are being criminally investigated for voter fraud schemes in the swing state of Florida.
6) 160 counties in the U.S. have more registered voters than people living in those counties.
Question: Have you seen any documented examples of voter suppression?
They appear to only be in Michelle Obama’s dreams.
Judicial Watch challenged her accusation, but it went unanswered.
Scott Gessler, CO Sec of State stated: “These accusations are built on a foundation of sand,” referring to voter suppression. He also states that the opposition to voter ID is well-financed and organized. “Disenfranchisement hysteria is, frankly, silly”
During a 1981 gubernatorial election in New Jersey, concern was raised over voter suppression; and the Democratic National Committee sued the RNC. That one incident in NJ 30 years ago came with a “consent decree”, stipulating that the RNC was prohibited from pre-election “ballot security” activates:
As modified in 1987, the Decree defined “ballot security activates” to mean “ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy vote fraud.
One section is particularly disturbing. Areas where minorities are living are in particular off limits for voter fraud protection measures. What message does this send to the DNC? Answer: Voter fraud will be allowed in minority areas; please target your efforts in those neighborhoods as this court is giving you a get-out-of-jail free card:
(e) refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting; and the conduct of such activities disproportionately in or directed toward districts that have a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations shall be considered relevant evidence of the existence of such a factor and purpose;
It should come as no surprise that voter fraud issues are rampant in the swing states districts where minorities make up a large percentage of the population.
Furthermore, the Court held that the RNC was barred from asserting this argument because the RNC willingly entered the Decree as a means of settling the initial 1981 lawsuit and the RNC again consented to the Decree, as modified, in 1987. The District Court also held that the Decree did not violate the First Amendment because, under the Decree, the RNC is free to communicate with state parties about subjects other than ballot security. Additionally, the Court noted that the First Amendment applies only to state actions and does not prevent private parties from agreeing to refrain from certain types of speech.
Prior to the 2012 elections, the RNC again attempted to have the consent decree vacated. An Obama-appointed Judge Joseph Greenway, Jr. of the U.S. Court of Appeals, 3rd Circuit, denied the petition.
This past week’s ruling on Monday, January the 14th by the SCOTUS to refuse to hear the case brought by the RNC to end the consent order suggests there will be no end to rampant voter fraud; this ruling is an open invitation to the DNC and it’s affiliates to perpetrate fraud with no repercussions, accountability, or scrutiny.
Obama won the 2012 election by 400,000 votes in 4 swing states. All of these states had precincts that had statistical miracles of 99% of the vote going to Obama and voter registration numbers far in excess of their actual population counts. Additionally, all of these same states had claims of voter machine errors changing individual votes cast from Romney to Obama. With the RNC’s hands tied, barring them from any action to remedy the situation, we are bound for more of the same in the upcoming 2014 and 2016 election cycles.
No U.S. citizen should ever have to wonder if their vote was canceled out by a fraudulent vote. The system is set up to fail the legitimate voter; we demand integrity, full transparency, and accountability in our elections!
What is the solution to this predicament? See my article Addressing Voter Fraud – A 14 Point Plan For 2013. Force action by your State Representatives and Governors, or be content to be obsolete.
The views expressed in this opinion article are solely those of their author and are not necessarily either shared or endorsed by WesternJournalism.com.

This is beyond unbelievable !!! Plain disgusting to take a oath to uphold the law and then do this, They all belong in prison !!! When the hell are we going to take charge of this damn mess ?!?!!? After they take our guns ???? I think we had better get on the ball and do something about this !!!
Believe it !
If the kenyan alien seemed to be an acceleration of Jr. Bush, check-in again about June… if we have not been removed from our computers, families, and homes with no access to a telefone.
The Consent Decree was entered into by the RNC 30 years ago. Obama was born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties in Hawaii, and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961all show.
There is nothing that can stop the Obama machine now! In fact I am sure being John Roberts is the deciding vote the SCOTUS will side with Obama, state he is a natural born citizen and fully eligibile to be POTUS. It will make no difference what much evidence Orly Taitz has against him
JUDGE ROBERTS WILL PAY DEARLY FOR GOING AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION….WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY. ” WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OFOtURSELVES FOR NOT STANDING UP TO OBAMA, WE JUST LET HIM DO WHATEVER, OUR KIDS WILL PAY DEARLY FOR THIS…IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT, IS THIS WHAT WE WANT FOR THE COUNTRY, CHAINED PEOPLE……..GOD HELP US.
How is Judge Roberts going to pay if he goes against the Constitution?
patti’s notes: so right,susanm621. we need to start standing strong ,together, get our country,back where it was, otherwise, expect complete socialism !!! i am not afraid to stand up for my rights !!!! even tell obama ,where to go !!! pl,orl,fla
The US Supreme Court is not even going to hear the case. It has only scheduled an ordinary meeting to decide which cases to take and which to reject, and Orly’s case is one of the forty or fifty on the list to be considered that day, and so far the US Supreme Court has rejected every single birther case. on October 1, for example, it rejected an appeal of a case in Georgia that had agreed that Obama is indeed a Natural Born US Citizen because the US Supreme Court had ruled in the Wong Kim Ark case that the meaning of Natural Born comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth—not to the citizenship of the parents of a US-born citizen.
People should accept the fact of large scale voter fraud when there are no limitations on voting. If you’re over 18 you can vote; Does anyone see anything wrong with this? Does anyone see how this can lead voter fraud? It was never meant that just anyone and everyone could vote. This is also the reason for the Poll Taxes and Jim Crow laws of the past. It wasn’t to limit a certain race of people from voting, it was to weed out people incapable of voting, of which, if being allowed to vote, would compromise the entire voting process leading to massive voter fraud just like you’re seeing today…
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
If there was any evidence that the US presidential election was stolen or that there was large scale voter fraud in it, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and such conservative leaders as Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck and the National Review would have said something about it, as would the Republican governors and Republican secretaries of state of the swing states.
@ellen
NO!
Not when those Republicans and people are part of the problem!
You fail to accept the fact that such people also has conspired committing voter fraud themselves. They are not gonna press the issue when they could be dragged into fray for committing similar acts and not reporting it. Are you now gonna say that Republicans don’t commit such acts? Ron Paul is a perfect example concerning having fraud committed against him by the Republican Party, and Romney was a big factor in making this happen this past election. (Voter fraud happened her big time.) You can start with Romney and how he has practically limited and cornered the true conservative of the Republican Party, by his reforms he pushed through at the RNC. People such as Ron Paul, Rand Paul and TEA Part conservatives no longer has much voice in the Republican Party and their positions in DC has been lessened. Your assertions holds no validity.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Please show any evidence that you have that the Republicans conspired in committing voter fraud. Convention rules, by the way, are different from voting fraud.
But let us say that MItt Romney did commit significant voter fraud. Is that evidence that Obama did? Answer: No. But, IF in fact he did commit significant voter fraud, then his actual vote might perhaps be less than what the results show, meaning that he did even more poorly than the record shows. So Obama still won the election.
But the bottom line remains, unless you can convince such conservative leaders as Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan and Ann Coulter and the National Review to say that there was significant voter fraud, you will not be able to convince any large group of people. Orly, by the way, did have a protest gathering at the Inauguration. It drew three or four people.
@ellen
I don’t have to show you anything and I won’t. I am NOT doing your homework for you so you can have the extra time to criticize whatever I post regardless to its’ merits. You’re only giving the typical liberal response and placing the burden of responsibility onto others that you should be taking for yourself. But then again you don’t wanna know anything contrary to what you think because you already know it all.
There have been several articles here TWCJ concerning fraud during the Republican primaries, including much that was specifically committed against Ron Paul. And what Romney and the liberal conservatives did in Tampa to the real conservatives being shut out is also extremely well documented here and elsewhere. All you need so is use YOUR time and NOT mine to check it out for yourself.
I can’t convince anyone of anything. I can’t convince you of anything no more than you can me. Romney, Coulter, Ryan, Limbaugh and many others already have their own opinions as to what they will believe as well as what they KNOW. As I said, there is no way such people as these are gonna to admit anything that would hurt a liberal Republican’s chances on winning an election and that includes speaking against real conservatives in their own party, including any acts of voter fraud in the Republican Party. It is only sensible that they not talk about such things because they wanna “beat the Democrats”. Yet they must first “beat” real conservative Republicans before they can do that, and they must do this without alienating Republicans of any type. Matter of fact I just finished a secession of comments on an article Kris Kristen titles, “TEA Party is Splintering…” or some similar title that addresses many of these same concerns.
You are NOT gonna pull your typical liberal tricks of making anyone here answer your own negative poised questions, eliciting a response just in order to attack whatever is posted. You’re setting up strawmen inferring them onto the commenter here, and then using that to attack one’s credibility. It ain’t gonna work here, sorry!
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
That is another reason I am an Independent. I vote for the person not the Party. It amazes me how many people will vote for a person who is a Republician or a Democrat. If Jeffrey Dahmer was a Democrat there would be Democrats who would vote for him. If Hannibal Lecter.was a Republican there would be Republican who would vote for him. Party means everything to too many people!
@bobmann101
That’s what the elite wants, a superficial polarization of the two parties, all the while both parties are working towards similar end goals. The only difference being each is taking a slightly different route in getting there. Sadly the people have been so dumbed down they can’t see the folly they’ve been led into and they play the game to their owners perfection. This is why we are seeing the split between TEA Party and other real conservative groups of the Republican Party. Some of those people actually see those problems we do.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Replying to Mike360000:
You said: “don’t have to show you anything and I won’t. I am NOT doing your homework for you ‘
It’s not a trick. For the benefit of any rational person visiting this site the issue was how could the election have been “stolen” if Mitt Romney, Ann Coulter, the National Review, etc—all did not say that it was stolen? After all, if they do not believe it, why should we?
Mike360000 claims that we should believe him on the basis of what he posted above and that “Romney, Coulter, Ryan, Limbaugh and many others already have their own opinions as to what they will believe as well as what they KNOW.” Answer. Well, of course they have their own opinions. The question is do those opinions hold that the election was stolen, and if they do not say so, how could we ever know?
Moreover, you had claimed that the Republican officials themselves had conspired in election fraud—which surely requires some evidence and some explanation of how that affects the election. It would seem to me that if the Republicans committed election fraud, then the actual result would have to be even worse than what the count recorded.
In any case, Obama won the election with 65 million votes, 4.7 million more than Romney. And he won Ohio and Florida and Colorado, in which the governors are Republican, and they did not say a word about the election being stolen.
@ellen
HA, I ain’t asking you or anyone to believe anything I say.
I am TELLING YOU to look it up for yourself, that I am NOT doing YOUR work for you. If you were as smart as you pretend to be, you would have already been aware of these things. Since you are trying to MAKE me prove something to you that I cannot, I can only say such an attitude points out your prejudice, which is your preconceived opinions. As I said, I can’t prove anything to anyone. A person must see, understand and accept a statement and fact based on their own reasoning, thoughts and beliefs, which causes them to prove something to themselves. I cannot think for you, therefore I can’t prove to you what you already think. You have to do that for yourself…
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Go back to sleep. You are waaaaay off base and do not know what you are talking about!
For the benefit of any rational person visiting this site, do you mind discussing the FACTS?
IF you have some evidence that the election was “stolen,” please show it. Then please explain why Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and the other Republican leaders and such conservative leaders as Ann Coulter and the National Review do not claim that the election was “stolen.”
@ellen
Again, I just told you why in my previous posts. In short they won’t do that because it would also condemn them, and I explained that earlier also.
But I did state that it had already been discussed by others, even at this blog.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Here is a start with a few links. Enjoy. BTW you still not have answered my question. “What has Obama done for you?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=Hbf3iaEbAuY&fulldescription=1
http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/04/colorado-counties-have-more-voters-than-people/
http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/did-obama-steal-the-2012-election/
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/forensic-profiler-obama-confessing-election-fraud/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/virginia-politics/post/cuccinelli-seems-to-agree-voter-fraud-helped-obama/2012/11/27/c117aa0a-38e2-11e2-a263-f0ebffed2f15_blog.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/virginia-politics/post/cuccinelli-seems-to-agree-voter-fraud-helped-obama/2012/11/27/c117aa0a-38e2-11e2-a263-f0ebffed2f15_blog.html
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/22-signs-that-voter-fraud-is-wildly-out-of-control-and-the-election-was-a-sham
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/12/In-Colorado-Ohio-and-PA-Some-Election-Results-Don-t-Quite-Add-Up
http://marketdailynews.com/2012/11/12/election-fraud-barack-obama-won-more-than-99-percent-of-the-vote-in-more-than-100-ohio-precincts/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/02/claims-increasing-switched-votes-in-ohio/
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/09/16/voter-rolls-in-ohio-are-bloated-experts-say.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/10/florida-vote-twist-more-ballots-voters/
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/26/is-voter-fraud-being-committed-in-ohio/
http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/what-luck-obama-won-dozens-of-cleveland.html
@bobmann101
You’re just doing for here what she should be doing. Now only you’ve given the time to attack you and the articles in general. She’ll simply dismiss the articles as being biased, slanted, or not worthy of any merits. Then she’ll attack you by posting such ridiculously biased links. She’ll find fault with everyone and blame you for posting them. It’s the way the liberal mindset works. And she can do all this and NEVER have to check anything, just simply start attacking you and your credibility for posting such non-sense.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Yeah I know Mike.I am retired and like to have a good laugh. I posted those links to give her the same treatment. Whatever she says does not bother me one bit. I will fence with her for the fun of it. Thanks for your concern.
Obama-appointed Judge Joseph Greenway,enough said
Only the RNC is bound by this agreement. Having been effectively neutered, and populated with progressives on top of that, it is time for the Republican party to be replaced. And I have always voted Republican to this point in some hope that the tides could be turned. Not that I believe that there is any longer a way out of the rapidly degrading situation through political means.
The RNC and all the non Democrats are to passive and allow all the left wing radical nuts walk all over us for fear of being labeled some sort of a name such as bigot, racist, hater or some sort of term such as that as they use this technique always to get their way. Fact is people need to quit worrying about the bogus labels.
Any rational thinking individual can see the absolute corruption in this Country and everything the Democrats have a hand in proves time and again the blatant corruption that goes unchecked and accounted for. The only way I see to restore honesty to not just our voting method but to our entire Governmental bodies both on the Federal and State levels is to infiltrate, capture and reclaim them with force if they are not willing to vacate their posts and positions. All methods of peaceful attempts to restore honesty and integrity of our Governmental systems have been exhausted, the only solutions left is to take drastic measures to demonstrate that we will no longer accept this form of corruption.
Our founding fathers implemented measures into our Constitution specifically for times such as these. The problem is, most of society will not band together for the common good of all men because we are living in a “ME” generation. Where people only lookouts for them self and cannot be trusted to have their neighbors back, So many people who want to make a stand and know a stand needs to be made, fails to because they do not want nor desire being the only one making the stand.
I would bet that it would take only a few instances of drastic measures of infiltrating these government offices and taking POW’s and holding them will send a strong message to these Democrats, and we will see an immediate turn about because they will not know who is next on the list. Infiltrate and take possession of their homes by which our tax dollars have paid for, and if Washington doesn’t get the message then we need to orchestrate a “FLASH MOB” on Washington DC and take control of the WH and Capitol hill by force if necessary, and flush out all the rats in DC. Our founding fathers knew a day such as this is inevitable, and that is why they wrote so extensively about it and implemented the measures empowering the people to take such measures to secure their freedoms and liberties by which they afforded us.
Well said. BTW, Does the woman in the above pic look like the woman bragging about getting an Obama phone.
Re: “the only solutions left is to take drastic measures to demonstrate that we will no longer accept this form of corruption. ”
Dream on. The last birther rally, Orly’s at the Inauguration, had a few people attending it. Before that the birther rally held by Philip Berg had a few hundred people.
I wonder why that may be so?
Maybe it is because the liberal media(ALL mainstream media, TV, radio, newspapers, magazines, and education.) will not call for proper identification to establish the truth?
Maybe it is because the liberal media instead of seeking the truth wishes to snuff out any dissenting voices?
Maybe society is not educated enuff to understand what is really going on concerning, or they don’t care?
Maybe it is because of the shear numbers of such people would be enuff to shut off dissension among those who would call for more checks because of the stigma any large group of people can impose on a minority?
The point being, regardless to people calling for better documentation or those in opposition to such calls, the fact remains that any righteous person would want ALL doubts settled to a problem when it is clearly defined that certain guidelines are to be met. Meaning it is in everyone’s interest to make sure a person has met all the requirements needed, and this is to the point of their not being any doubt.
Of course you will claim those requirements have been met, and I will say they have not. I say this because of the lingering doubt that is shown by Obama and many others close to him. There are so many pieces of evidence pointing to him NOT meeting the requirements that it continually brings up new assertions against him, all because he has said himself, that he was born elsewhere, and there are many others to support this contention. And of course you’ll claim ignorance wanting proof, to which I’ll just say the same as I’ve been saying in my other posts to you. Look for yourself and read the many pieces of evidence that points to Obama not meeting the requirements. Prove it to yourself, as I have already proved it my satisfaction, and many others here have also. It’s NOT what I tell you. It’s what you tell yourself from what you dare read.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Isn’t that the “ObamaPhone Lady” holding the yellow sign?
Looks like it to me. Hey maybe that is Ellen. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Democrats Progressives and Nazis and Commies cannot win an election unless they cheat. The last election there were 98 million registered voters, but 125 million people voted in Presidential Race. That is about 25% of the voters were likely fraudulent. Obozo the Commie won by 4%, way less than 25% fraud. If elections cannot be trusted by citizens, the only recourse is What?
Stalin said, “It does not matter who gets the most votes, it only matters who counts them.” Spoken like a True DemoNaziCommieCrat. But, I, by experience have discovered that liberals do not mind winning by cheating and Lying. They are perfect Sons Of Sat Tan and Stalin.
IF more people had voted than registered voters, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and the conservative governors and secretaries of the swing states would have said something about it, as would Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review. Not one of them has claimed that the election was won thorough voter fraud. Not one of them
. Not one of them has claimed that the election was won through voter fraud.
So because rhese people did not claim that the election was won through voter fraud, means there was no voter fraud. You need to go back under your rock. You believe you trump every expert and know more than everyone else. You are a very arrogant and ignorant person!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@ellen
I just answered this question/statement.
Not True!
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Are you saying that Mitt Romney, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review, and Paul Ryan did say that there was significant voter fraud? Or any one of them? If so, show it. If not, please explain why they do not make such a statement? Why should we believe YOUR claims of significant voter fraud, if they do not do so???
Re: ” The last election there were 98 million registered voters, but 125 million people voted in Presidential Race. ‘
Who told you that? Where did you get those “facts” from? Who told you that there were only 98 million registered voters????
There were 180 million registered US voters. About 129 million or 130 million votes for president were cast.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/oct/15/voter-registrations-us-election
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012
Here is my two cents! If the issue is that voter fraud is caused by out-dated registration records, then I propose the following to solve the problem once and for all:
Effective March 1st (pick a date) ALL voter registrations in all 50 (or 57 if you like) states are declared NULL and VOID! This means there are NO voters and all Americans will have to register anew with or without party affiliation. My one wish would be that it would have to take place in person at designated locations WITH proper ID in order to register. Just think, there would be no more dead people voting!! And no more 109% voting in a precinct. Go ahead flame away or give me your solution.
Re: ” Furthermore, my article is not about the 2012 election and a debate about who stole it, or even if it was stolen. I have made no claim that the election was stolen. ”
Answer: Excellent, it wasn’t.
As for claims that elections can be stolen, of course they can. How to remedy it? So long as federal or state funds are available to GUARANTEE that no election line will take longer than 30 minutes for anyone who wants to vote, you can pass all the laws that you want to check IDs over and over again and to check the places of residence and check off the voter at that residence when she or he votes. (You realize, of course, that just checking voter IDs does not prevent the same person from voting multiple times)
But a one-minute check on every voter in a 100-person line will take 100 minutes, or more than an hour and a half. And busy people, particularly those with two jobs or mothers with young children, will be reluctant to wait an hour and a half on line—particular when it is raining.
This is why opponents of such checks fight so hard against the checks, because we know that the real motive is not to check the IDs, it is to create the long waits on line that reduce the number of working voters.
So, unless you get the supporters of voter ID checking to put right into the law that there will be, and must be funds and a guarantee that no line will take more than 30 minutes or so, we will fight hard against the idea. In principle, better ID checks have no harm and might do some good. Unless the idea is coupled with the resources to pay for reasonable length voting waits and to guarantee that will be so, we will fight you. The additional resources in terms of increased voting machines would probably not be very expensive. But, we notice that there has been no discussion of providing them. That’s why we think that conservatives are trying to make the wait longer and to reduce the number of working people who vote.
From the Author-
Arrests and convictions have been made for voter fraud; those accounts can’t be “biased” anyone can Google the mug shots. Furthermore, my article is not about the 2012 election and a debate about who stole it, or even if it was stolen. I have made no claim that the election was stolen. The purpose of the article is to remedy the voting system so ALL future elections do not have these issues or even have the perception of the potential of fraud.
These are the facts, and they are NOT in dispute. Going off topic to distract from the point of the essay does not make the acts or the facts disappear. If you are not concerned about the facts, than we can only assume you are part of the problem and desire the “get out of jail free card” to continue, as it is advantageous for your team. Your attempt to distract from the main theme is transparent. We will continue to unmask your misrepresentations, distractions, hypocritical reasoning, hidden agenda and intellectually dishonest arguments.
If Obama and the Dems are pushing cross checking among states for gun licenses, they are certainly capable of demanding the same for our voting system. Voting is the most basic right of our Country and the voice of the people, the integrity of each vote should be protected at all costs. Even the perception of fraud is unacceptable! All potential loopholes in our voting system need to be closed. It seems to me that medical records, gun registrations and every other item the Dems can think of to “modernize” and close loopholes is important, except protecting and modernizing our voting system with checks and balances. Ask yourself why, and how is that logical or consistent, why is voting the only subject left out of their demands to “improve” our infrastructure?
There are serious reasons for concern of voter fraud:
1) Pew Research Center states in 2012 –
“Voter registration in the United States largely reflects its 19th-century origins and has not kept pace with advancing technology and a mobile society. States’ systems must be brought into the 21st century to be more accurate, cost-effective, and efficient.
Research commissioned by the Pew Center on the States highlights the extent of the challenge:
• Approximately 24 million—one of every eight—voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.
• More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.
• Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
2) The American people support voter ID laws by an overwhelming 74% (Washington Post.)
Hispanic Americans support voter ID laws by an overwhelming 71 % (Pew Research Center.)
3) The presidential election of 2000 was won by only 500 votes.
4) Local elections can be won by just a handful of votes.
5) People who believe their vote does not count or will be canceled out by fraud are unlikely to bother to vote.
Multiple left leaning groups are being criminally investigated for voter fraud schemes in the swing state of Florida.
6) 160 counties in the U.S. have more registered voters than people living in those counties.
Question: Have you seen any documented examples of voter suppression?
They appear to only be in Michelle Obama’s dreams.
Judicial Watch challenged her accusation, but it went unanswered.
Re: ” Furthermore, my article is not about the 2012 election and a debate about who stole it, or even if it was stolen. I have made no claim that the election was stolen. ”
Answer: Excellent, it wasn’t.
As for claims that elections can be stolen, of course they can. How to remedy it? So long as federal or state funds are available to GUARANTEE that no election line will take longer than 30 minutes for anyone who wants to vote, you can pass all the laws that you want to check IDs over and over again and to check the places of residence and check off the voter at that residence when she or he votes. (You realize, of course, that just checking voter IDs does not prevent the same person from voting multiple times)
But a one-minute check on every voter in a 100-person line will take 100 minutes, or more than an hour and a half. And busy people, particularly those with two jobs or mothers with young children, will be reluctant to wait an hour and a half on line—particular when it is raining.
This is why opponents of such checks fight so hard against the checks, because we know that the real motive is not to check the IDs, it is to create the long waits on line that reduce the number of working voters.
So, unless you get the supporters of voter ID checking to put right into the law that there will be, and must be funds and a guarantee that no line will take more than 30 minutes or so, we will fight hard against the idea. In principle, better ID checks have no harm and might do some good. Unless the idea is coupled with the resources to pay for reasonable length voting waits and to guarantee that will be so, we will fight you. The additional resources in terms of increased voting machines would probably not be very expensive. But, we notice that there has been no discussion of providing them. That’s why we think that conservatives are trying to make the wait longer and to reduce the number of working people who vote.
Re: “Question: Have you seen any documented examples of voter suppression?’
Answer: Yes. An attempt to impose a check of IDs that would take one minute on average (or even 30 seconds) is an attempt to increase the waiting period on line. If there are 200 people on line, a 30 second average check of IDs adds one hour to the wait. Working people with two jobs and mothers with young children will be reluctant to wait that long on line, particularly in the rain. That is a form of voter suppression.
Another one, of course, is when the state attempts to clean the voting rolls of people who have died, and “by mistake” they eliminate some of the names of people who are alive too. That has happened in Florida, if I recall, and it can happen anywhere. The solution, of course (though I have not heard of it from conservatives) is a bi-partisan group to clean the voting rolls. I wonder why this has not been suggested?
I live in Florida and it has NEVER been a problem to show my ID to vote in Seminole County. I even ask the poll workers everytime if it has ever been a problem for them or those standing in line. Their answer has always been a resounding NO! I would much rather stand in line waiting for all legitimate votes to be cast than to hurry up and have even ONE fraudulent vote occur. As for “cleaning” the records, that is why I strongly suggest wiping the entire slate clean – all existing registration records reduced to zero and start clean – clean being the operative word – no more felons, dead people or “:undocumented workers”. Then let’s see if you continue to win over the American voter. Seems only fair. One last item – we use paper ballots in Seminole County and our count is always done accurately in minutes of polls closing – unlike Palm Beach, Broward and Dade that give our state a black eye every cycle and drag us into the following days – too close to call. I would like to see ALL counties hold their results until some deadline when they are released to Tallahassee simultaneously – that way the blue counties don’t know how many votes to manufacture for an outcome! If you are confused – see Allen West results!! Talk about stolen.
Re: ” … and it has NEVER been a problem to show my ID to vote in Seminole County.’
What do you mean that it has never been a problem? Are you saying that the checking process, both seeing the ID and checking off the names of those who have already voted, takes less than 30 seconds a person? If not, then if there are 200 people on one the wait must be one hour. That, you say, is just fine by you. You are delighted to wait, even in the rain. But other people have other responsibilities. Women with small children have the right to vote, but then they have the responsibility to pick up their children from school or childcare too—so they usually cannot wait an hour in line (or it has often been considerably longer than an hour in some places, and more diligent checking would only make the wait longer).
Re: “As for “cleaning” the records, that is why I strongly suggest wiping the entire slate clean – all existing registration records reduced to zero and start clean – clean being the operative word – no more felons, dead people or “:undocumented workers”.
No doubt the fewer people who actually vote is to your side’s advantage. That is why our side, who wants the workers to vote and to make it easy for them to do so, opposes what you suggest. Only the dead and felons need to be removed from the voting rolls, and unless it is done by a bi-partisan body, there is a good chance that significant numbers of voters will be removed too. What kinds of voters? Well, in conservative areas it would be liberal voters and in liberal areas it would be conservative voters. So it has to be a bi-partisan effort.
Alan West lost fair and square.
Re: ” if there are 200 people on one…”
That should read, “if there are 200 people on line…’
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/new-documents-show-department-of-justice-coordination-with-acorn-connected-project-vote/
Here is proof of the coordinated efforts by the left and those in power to take advantage of the loopholes.
Gee….. ya sure can tell who this Judge voted for, can’tcha….. OBAMA….. no less