Lieutenant Colonel Terrence Lakin, a distinguished Army flight surgeon, is “certain” to be convicted of disobeying orders, according to his lawyer, Neil Puckett.
LTC Lakin will go on trial December 14 for refusing to deploy with his unit to Afghanistan. The senior officer questioned the legal validity of his orders because they originate ultimately with President Barack Obama, whose eligibility to serve as commander in chief under article II of the U.S. Constitution remains unproven.
“Based on the evidence available, his conviction is certain,” Puckett told WND. “He has no affirmative defense for the offenses he committed.”
“There is not much left to do” in defense of his client, Puckett said. Lakin’s previous defense counsel, Paul Jensen, already “sought discovery of documents, and to introduce evidence and expert witnesses, but the judge shut down all those efforts.”
During a September hearing, Colonel Denise Lind, the judge in the case, censored the last remaining arguments Lakin planned to make in his defense: motive and duty. Lakin had intended to explain his motive for disobeying the order and contend that it was his duty as a good soldier to disobey orders that he believed to be illegal.
Lind also rejected defense requests to call as witnesses Ambassador Alan Keyes and retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney. Keyes was to explain the constitutional issues involved in the case, and McInerney was to talk about the training soldiers receive regarding when they should question and even disobey orders.
Stripped by the court of all possible defenses that might have justified his actions, Lakin has no chance of prevailing at trial.
Lakin had intended, through a court martial, to resolve the nationwide dispute about Obama’s eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.
Knowing he was risking imprisonment and dismissal from the service, Lakin deliberately disobeyed his superiors in order to force Obama to produce his birth certificate and documents related to his citizenship status.
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This is really a sad day in America. Any military service member, or any veteran, myself included, who thinks that Obama doesn't hate us, is really naive.
The fact that Obama is willing to destroy this distinguished soldier's career for his own selfish ends is just one example of how fundamentally dishonest Obama and his administration are. I for one will be glad when 2012 gets here, and we can get rid of Obama for good.
We own LTC Lakin a big apology. We also own him his freedom. Anything less just isn't good enough.
Another patriot must fall on his sword. What will it take to end this madness, this tyranny? That's rhetorical, of course.
More and more, I believe that only massive civil disobedience, another assertive march on Washington, and, yes, even rebellion, if all else fails, appear to be our only hope for a restoration of constitutional order and justice.
I genuinely fear for the Repubic.
Ultimately, the military works for "We The People". If necessary, we need to remind them that we can TAKE BACK CONTROL. This, of course, is why the Obamanation is hell bent on that U.N. arms treaty.
People, you need to wake up and grow up. The bully only backs down after his nose gets bloodied. I think its time that "We the People" rearrange some noses. Remember, there are some 8 to 10 million patriots on our side. We have the numbers.
Jefferson was right on nourishing that tree of liberty.
People who feel the need to hide behind fake names even on blogs where almost everyone agrees with them don't inspire much fear of "numbers"–even if you hadn't invented the numbers.
It will take massive civil disobedience for the people to regain control of "Their" government from the communist dictators that view themselves as the elite ruling class and they conceive themselves as our masters.
Col. Lakin was never given his day and they have taken his right to discovery to prove his case. The whole court system is on the take and protecting the Imposter-in-Chief. For a court to rule that we the people have no standing proves this.
Obama's birth certificate has nothing to do with the issue of whether the order "go to Afghanistan" was legal. Afghanistan is a legal war, approved by Congress back during the Bush Administration.
It has nothing to do with the parasites birth certificate. It has all to do with the judical system which has done everything in its power to insure the parasite is not exposed.
The order "Go to Afghanistan" is a perfectly legal order that was given to Lakin by a superior officer. Since the order is legal, and the superior officer was not Obama, Obama's birth certificate is irrelevant to the case.
"It will take massive civil disobedience…"
Go ahead… you start, and see how many folks here follow your lead.
James,
You're right. Let's just fight back with endless commentary and blogging. That'll stop 'em in their tracks. Of course, I know you don't believe that any more than I do.
Frankly, I'm at a loss at to what to do. Awareness is one thing, but effectively organizing for action is another. There is one thing we could all do, and that is to deluge our congressional delegations with our anger and disappointment. But, I'm not even sure that will turn the tide.
Perhaps the Tea Party could lead the way, but that won't work because their patron saint, Glenn Beck, disparages "birthers" at every turn. So, it look like our only recourse is to burn the phone lines up with our congressional delegations. Any other suggestions to save LTC Lakin from this tyranny?
It is not tyranny for a court to convict an officer for disobeying an order.
There is no "saving" Lakin, in my view. He made a bad decision, may had had bad legal advice, and will pay the price. But he probably won't spend more than a year in jail–which he might consider to be better than a year in Afghanistan (esp. if it weren't for the dishonorable discharge that is likely to come with it).
What "birthers" should be doing (in addition to the writing and calling of Congress, writing letters to the editor, etc.) is trying to find a credible candidate to run against Obama in 2012, and devote their time and money to supporting him/her.
Dream on.
ELLEN GO BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK
This B*tch Lind should be tried for High Treason and EXECUTED.
What a joke!
What a travesty
It seems that the UCMJ has no purpose any more.
What ever happened to RULE OF LAW
Lind is nothing but Obama's whore.
I couldn't have said it any better! When barry soetoro goes down, she should go with him!
If the American Vetrans and PATRIOTS allow this to happen then we as a NATION will fall to the CORRUPTION of a LIE!!
As a nation we DESERVE to fall for turning our backs on the LORD!
Ipray that JUDGE gets her DAY!
Why can't we rebell and start an uprising,, get enough of the great ole american people together and take over washington. where is the people like lee harvey Olswold, and all the skin heads who would like to make a name for themselves. No military personell should protect the lives of such a traitor, lier. GOD BLESS AMERICA TO HELL WITH THE MUSLEMS.
"Why can't we rebell and start an uprising,,"
Maybe because you don't even have the courage to use your own name on a blog where most people agree with you? Or because you call for others to commit murder on your behalf, further demonstrating a lack of courage and a lack of sense? Maybe because you're a bigot?
Just guessing, of course.
LOOK WHO'S CALLING WHO A BIGOT. IS THAT LIKE THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK?
This is truly an injustice – American citizens (all of us are on a need to know basis about Obama's citizenship.) It's seems illegal that a judge should prevent qualified witnesses. More then ever with our country heading into financial destruction, we should have the right to insist that Obama shows proof of citizenship. So far, he's continued since his position in Illinois as Senator to obtain a get home free ticket. I hope Mr. Lakin knows that others are working diligently to bring the subject of Obama's legality to the table; those who have nothing to fear certainly don't run away and hide. If he in fact was proud of this country, we wouldn't be in the terrible mess we're in, which leads me to believe that he in fact isn't one of us.
The basis of Obama's citizenship is that he was born in Hawaii, as the official birth certificate of Hawaii shows, and Obama has both posted it and showed the physical copy of it to both Politifact and FactCheck. In addition, the Republican officials and Republican governor of Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed the facts on the birth certificate, that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.
This, by the way, is not relevant to whether Lakin obeyed a legal order. The issue in obeying a legal order is (1) was it given by a superior officer to Lakin, and it was; and (2) was it legal, and the order "go to Afghanistan" is certainly legal–and it was not given by Obama. The legality of the Afghanistan war was approved by Congress back during the Bush Administration.
You have seen only what you want to see, the only thing that has been posted anywhere is "A Certificate of Live Birth" which is a POS as far as proving who he is, what he is etc. We know WHAT he is, but he doesn't want us to know WHO he is.
We DO NOT have a legal system, including the Supreme Court that has the GUTS to act on this matter. Some day in the very near future all this WILL change.
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ELLEN YOU NOR ANYBODY ELSE HAS SEEN AN OFFICIAL B.S. FROM ANYWHERE SO STOP THE BULL S— YOU ARE TRYING TO PROMOTE
The Certification of Live Birth, which Obama has shown and the facts on which have been repeatedly confirmed, is the official birth certificate of Hawaii.
The Wall Street Journal said:
“The birthers have also misrepresented the law in the claims they have made about Obama’s birth certificate. In truth, Obama has proved that he is a native of Hawaii, and this proof would hold up in any legal or administrative proceeding.
In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues….
Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.”
Obama is a Natural Born US Citizen due to his birth in Hawaii, which has been shown by the official birth certificate of Hawaii and the repeated confirmations of the Republican officials and Republican governor of Hawaii.
WRONG AGAIN YOU DUMB ASS
You are simply calling names, not discussing facts.
Perhaps the only way out for Lakin is for the new administration to work on his behalf relentlessly in Congress.
Have you noticed that not one member of Congress has even mentioned it?
Why not? Because the issue of disobeying an order has nothing to do with the eligibility of the president. It relates to the officer who gave the order, was he superior to Lakin (answer: yes) and was the order "go to Afghanistan" legal (answer:yes since the Afghanistan War is a perfectly legal war, approved by Congress during the Bush administration.)
Yeah, good luck with that. I'll bet you can't get a single Congressman to back you. Maybe all 535 of them are also corrupt and should be executed, as some of the nitwits here (including one above with an especially appropriate name) suggest should happen with the judge?
I HAVE A FEELING I9F THE NEW CLASS OF REPUBS DON' START HOUSE CLEANING JAN. SECOND THE TEA PARTY WILL.
It's a damn shame that a Scam Artist can screw over a decent American like he has. There'll be a day of reckoning for Obamanation one day!
Army leadership needs to get off their knees and protect the US Constitution or get out of the business of defending it! Hypocrisy destroys, and by their own hypocrisy of aiding and abetting a proven usurper gives us true pause to consider their own treason against the American people.
So who exactly is the enemy again !?
The initials are "bho" aka "bs" – -(yes, that too)
The entire US military should refuse to serve in these jew promoted wars. They can't court martial them all.
Not all wars are "jew" promoted. You should be ashamed of yourself for discriminating in writing the way you did. Many wars are promoted by "oldtimers" who don't care about the lives of the young people that are sacrificed for their political objectives.
You'll find that Alzheimer blames Jews for everything. Unlike Barney the dinosaur, who blames women for everything. An interesting pair of "Christians," those two.
Same old rhetoric from McPissedoff. He, it or whatever can't stand the truth any better then the jews.
Remember the mossad motto, : " By Deception, Thou Shalt Make war"
Also read John 8:44.
Thanks for helping illustrate my point, Alzheimer.
If this is the way the military treats soldiers, why join up?
Those who think the can disobey direct orders from commanding officers because they don't like the Commander in Chief definitely shouldn't join up.
James,stick with subject's you actually know something about.from your comment, it's evident you don't know what You're talking about.
I don't think it has anything to do with like or dislike. It is the principle fact that Obama's eligibility is at question with most ALL Americans. I think when our soldiers commit to defend the Constitution and that's exactly what LTC Lakin did then he and we have a right to disobey someone in question. Why should Obama be any different that anyone who (and he did) take the oath to defend the Constitution then why is it any different for him than it is for our soldiers to question him. I think it is a crime what they are doing to this man of RESPECT..LTC Lakin. The US should care enough for the people in the Military to do something about it. The whole Military ought to say to Congress…either you get this thiing straightened out or we all walk and will support and protect our own shores. How does any of our soldiers know but what they might be being put right in the middle of an ambush. We don't trust Obama!!.
I'm quite certain that Col. lakin can and is willing to provide the court with a certified birth certicate. If
real justice it to be served Obama should be ordered by the court to do the same. Anything less will be a MISCARRIAGE of JUSTICE.
Obama's birth certificate has nothing to do with whether Lakin disobeyed the legal order "go to Afghanistan." Only if the Afghanistan War were illegal would that order be illegal, but the Afghanistan War IS legal, having been approved by Congress back during the Bush Administration.
Ellen,same advise to You.stay with a subject that you have knowledge about.Lakin had every right to refuse if He felt that A**hole wasn't eligible.
".Lakin had every right to refuse"
Yeah, that's why he's headed to jail.
Ellen this is still America and you are free to believe anything you want. The point in this case is that if Obama is not eligible to be President then his order to Col. Lakin has no standing. Obama has spent at least $80,000,000 with an international law firm (Power &Coie) hiding his college records, law school records and his birth certificate. Istead of being called "Commander in Chief" he should be called "Commander of LIES". My favorite lie is "My father served in WWII". An OBVIOUS LIE—–his father was 3 years old when that war began, and
his stepfather was 5 years old. Wakeup Ellen Obama is lying almost every time his lips move.
Re: The point in this case is that if Obama is not eligible to be President then his order to Col. Lakin has no standing.
That is silly. Obama did not give the order. It was a full col or a gen. If a col or a gen told a lt. col "sweep the floor,' the lt col would have to obey it. The lt col could not say 'no i won't sweep the floor, FDR or Truman (or what ever president) is not eligible." Actually, of course, he could say it, but they would put him in jail anyway.
There are only two elements in determining whether someone disobeyed an order; (1) did a superior officer deliver it (In this case, Yes), and (2) was it a legal order. The order "go to Afghanistan" is a perfectly legal order since the Afghanistan War is a legal war approved by Congress.
Re: "Obama has spent at least $80,000,000 with an international law firm (Power &Coie) hiding his college records, law school records and his birth certificate."
Answer: BALONEY. This is all made up by birthers.
Re: "My favorite lie is "My father served in WWII". An OBVIOUS LIE"
Answer: He said GRANDFATHER, and someone edited the video.
Like I said Ellen you can believe what you want. I happened to hear the campaign speech
when Obama said his father served suring WWII. The gist of that speech was that Kenya took good care of their vets and that Obama would do the same for our vets. However after the election he wanted the soldiers to have their own insurance since those serving are all volunteers. You need to do some research before you argue with me. I am close to being an expert on the Messiah. I assume you know the difference between Obama and GOD——GOD never thinks he is Obama.
He said that his GRANDFATHER served in WWII, which is accurate. It is possible to cut out the "grand" from grandfather in a video.
Watch the video carefully —-if be the grand in grandfather had been edited out the movement of his mouth and lips would not match the video. Ellen you are impossible. As retired M.D. I suggest you get a PET brain scan because yours is not working right. Best do it soon because when Obamacare kicks in you will have to wait to see your doctor and wait again to see a specialist, then wait several months to get the scan. If you are old the scan may be denied. Plus the fact that I saw him make that speech and he said father!!!
It matches because they cut both the sound for "grand" and the video for the mouth movement for "grand.' Obama's grandfather fought in WWII, and that is what Obama wrote in his book. His father was from Kenya; that is also what he wrote. He did not mix up his father and his grandfather. He said GRANDFATHER.
Ellen you are impossibly naive. Obama has told so many lies in his life time I can't imagine how he remembers what he has said. Maybe he has teleprompter tapes.
Goodbye Ellen, I have much better things to do than to argue with you
The facts are that Obama's US grandfather fought in WWII, and that is what Obama wrote and SAID, and it is the truth.
The facts also are that Obama was born in Hawaii as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and as repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii and the Republican governor of Hawaii. If you do not want to discuss the facts, or are afraid to read them, then goodbye.
Ellen if you go to http://www.google.com and type in "show me the video where Obama said his father served in WWII" and click on the first hit you will see and hear him LIE. His father was born in 1936 and would have been 3 when the war started and 9 when it was over. And don't come back with that "MISPOkE" BS. A lie is a lie.
DOC THE FIGURE SPENT ON LAWYERS IS OVER 1.8 MILLION
Hey Guys this is Ellen….Someone got me mixed up with another person. Your answers do not fit anything I said and some are exactly in reverse to what I would say!!!! I never mentioned that Lakin disobeyed a legal order…how did my name get on the posting? Rebel 44…why are you writing me to stay with a subject I have knowledge of??????? Some of you used my name in error and accused me of projecting the reverse of what I feel. Shame on you!!!!
Ellen Humohrey: There is another Ellen—–no last name given. She's apparently an Obama lover and says he did no lie about his father serving in WWII. She probably wouldn't believe that he also said his father was a goat herder. His father was highly educated and was part of what has been called the crookedest government that Kenya has ever had.
Ellen H., the other Ellen has been posting here far longer than you have. No one is using your name.
We must not fail Lt. Col. Lakin who has put his all on the line for us He is an honorable man who stands in a main water leak holding back the tide to do us evil. If we let him go, we let ourselves go and the resolve we have to defend ourselves against tyrrany.
The powers must be shaken to their core so that they understand we mean business. WE ARE THE PEOPLE! and there is a lot of power en masse and with ONE mighty God!
You are right! One with God is a majority!
Or, put another way, "Allahu Akbar!"
James you need to go away!!!!!!
And give up all the intellectual stimulation I get here?
James, you are such a highbrow that I wonder why you even bother with these low-class, frustrated philistines who post here. How can you possibly get any kind of stimulation from the conversations here? Why… they are not fit to tie your shoes. It might be more of an arousal for you if you confined your gems of wisdom to …oh, let's say … the Huffington Post.
Thanks, James. Ahab tried to steal Naboths vineyard and Jezebel thought she could get by the law with false witnesses and make it legal to murder Naboth, The the Lord shut off the rain for three and a half years and now was the day of confrontation
"Allahu Akbar!" "Allahu Akbar!" "Allahu Akbar!" but where is the fire?
1Ki 18:24 And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the LORD: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken.
25 And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire under.
26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made.
Read the rest of the story and know what happened to Jezebel and also to Ahab. Obama is hiding behind a piece of paper while thumbing his nose at justice. The Lord did not stop the stoning of Naboth, neither did he subvert justice. Just because nothing happen immediately does not mean it won't happen The fuse is lit and the powder is dry.
LtCol Lakin is a MAN, and his attorney Puckett is as much a fagot wimp as Obama is. If Puckett is not going to stand up for a decorated Soldier, and give in to the Socialist, Communist, Muslim, Towelheaded obama, then he should have his license to practice law the same as the FRADULANT ASSHOLE setting in the WhiteHouse had his License revoked. How in the Hell ca the American justice system go along with obama, who is not a legal citizen ad go against LtCol Lakin? This Country is in SAD SHAPE. I am a retired Marine, and You can bet your ass that I would do the same thing LtCol Lakin is doing if I were still on active duty.
If you do not print my comment for the public to view, then you are as much of a wimp as Obama and Puckett are
Obama is a legal citizen, having been born in Hawaii as his official birth certificate and the repeated confirmations of the officials show.
Obama needs to be nullified and impeached. He is so intrenched in it may take a revolution. I'm Lakin's age and willing.
I really hate Obama – this is a travesty of justice and the judge, Colonel Lind is a traitor, to the
Army, the US constitution and the citizens of the US – she needs to be court martialed ASAP..
I'll second that motion!
Lakin's career is over because he called Barrys hand. Barry Soetoro is his legal name as far as can be proven. He was adopted and renamed Barry by his step father. There's no record of Barry changing his name back to Barack after his adoption. He is an Indonesian citizen first, and a British subject second. He also has citizenship in Kenya. The rule of law when Barry was born was that citizenship was inherited from the father. It's time to insist that he be impeached from office. Please sign the petition: http://www.petition2congress.com/2349/petition-to….
And remember to forward it on to everyone you know and sign it again after new years so that the new congress will have the petition too.
Obama was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate shows, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii (members of a Republican governor's administration) and most recently by the Republican governor herself.
Obama never legally changed his name to Soetoro, so he did not have to change it back. All the facts on the changing of names (he didn't), adoption (he was not adopted) and alleged Indonesian citizenship can be found by simply calling the Indonesian Embassy in Washington and asking (ask for the press officer). The answer is that he did not change his name, was not adopted and never was a citizen of indonesia.
When you are born in the USA you become a US citizen, and it was never the rule of law that a US citizen born in the USA inherited foreign citizenship from either parent.
Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)
Now everyone pay attention to Ellen because she KNOWS!! And she just loves to share her knowledge and expertise in these matters with everyone… notice all of her replies. We should petition the Supreme Court to make her their special consultant on very difficult cases.
You notice that Tessie has not discussed the facts. She just thinks that it is smart to laugh at the facts. She may not like them, but they are the facts.
Here is a photocopy of Obama’s official birth certificate. Notice the seal on the back. Yes, it is on Factcheck’s site, but the idea that they could forge such a detailed document and the seal is laughable.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_t…
Here is confirmation that it is the official and only birth certificate that Hawaii issues
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574320190095246658.html)
Here is the first of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.kitv.com/r/17860890/detail.html
Notice where it says that there is an original birth certificate filed. Well, in 1961 foreign birth certificates, even those from other states, could not be filed in Hawaii. So the birth certificate in Obama’s files must be a Hawaii birth certificate.
Here is the second of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-ob…
Notice where it says that the document in the files VERIFIES that Obama was born in Hawaii. So, not only is there an official Hawaiian birth certificate in the files, but it says right on it that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii has never allowed the Department of Health to issue a birth document of any kind that says on it that anyone was born in Hawaii unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii, and that is what the officials in Hawaii have confirmed twice.
And here is the confirmation by the governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican, that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/0…
Ellen you are welcome to your opinion but it is still opinion and not supported by the trigonometry of facts. You failed to dot your Is and cross your Ts. The base and height does not match the hypotenuse Recheck your log tables.
I notice that you are not discussing the facts.
Difference of opinion, Ellen, you have been discussing opinion rather than fact so the three legs of the triangle don't match. Certainly I have been discussing opinion with the intent to find out some of the facts rather than establish my opinion.
You keep playing the same old record as though that establishes it as fact but its still opinion.
It is a fact, not an opinion, that the Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate of Hawaii.
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574320190095246658.html)
It is a fact, not an opinion, that Obama published it and showed it to both FactCheck and Politifact.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_t…
It is a fact, not an opinion, that the officials in Hawaii confirmed that there is an official birth certificate in Obama's file:
http://www.kitv.com/r/17860890/detail.html
It is a fact, not an opinion, that the officials in Hawaii stated that the document in Obama's file VERIFIES that Obama was born in Hawaii:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-ob…
It is a fact, not an opinion, that the governor also confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii and stated the name of the hospital, Kapiolani, which had not been in the previous statements:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/0…
It is also a fact, not an opinion, that there is a witness who recalls being told of Obama's birth in Hawaii and writing home about it in 1961 (and indicating that the hospital was, as the governor [and Obama in his book] said: Kapiolani):
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/0…
IN addition, Obama's Kenyan grandmother never said that he was born in Kenya. She said in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family had heard of Obama's birth was in A LETTER FROM HAWAII.
These are facts, not opinions.
I am heartsick for Lt. Col. Lakin, and the disgust and rage I feel about the corruption of our government — from the marxist imposter in the Oval Office and all his commie tsars to both houses of the
Congress and the Supreme Court which has ducked its duty to act judicial for the people and not for the puppet installed and maintained by shadowy figures pulling his strings! Now the services, too.! The very last straw! Well, you only have to see how they knuckle under about the Left's demands for open homosexuality and other social engineering causes to realize they are now corrupted, too.
There was no way from the get-go that this honorable man was ever going to get a hearing. I knew that in my hear when I heard his "defense counsel" talk on record a few months ago. I am so sick of what is going on with my beloved country (I was a proud Navy wife for 28 years!) that words to express my feelings adequately simply evade me. And we are just now getting to a stage where the destruction wrought by the Left is going to become manifest — Dear God, I pray we make it through to a better country before being consumed by the New World Order and being reduced to just another third rate nation.
America, wake-up! It was over long ago! It was WE who established two plans for global new world order governments under "Marxism," first with Wilson and next with FDR! It is America, Israel by the real House of Joseph(Gen.48:16) that will produce the Anti-Messiah, nobody else! America has already produced plenty of Marxist Presidents, but out last on is also a forbidden foreigner(non-Israelite written about in Deuteronomy 17:15) for the first time ever! Next will come the Two Witnesses to punish u.s. for 3 1/2 years plus 3 1/2 days! This also finds another duality in the Bible, the first(Cain) will be last and last(Seth) will be first to be resurrected! Think of the voting block is Obama is THE Anti-Christ as he self-reports, a Marxist? Remember Eve? Will our tribulation begin in? September 2011, 2012, or 2013 is the question?
Adam was actually the one responsible for the fall of mankind. He was the one given responsibility and he was right there with Eve and didn't use his authority. The Bible says Eve was deceived but Adam wasn't. Adam KNOWINGLY disobeyed. He was the one who had the authority and didn't stop the serpent.
Lakin is an American patriot. He and all other patriotic officers should stand up and defend Col. Lakin. However, they lack the same fortitude and convistions that lakin embraces. However, it really doesn't matter where Barry Soetoro was born.
Barry Soetoro is his legal name as far as can be proven. He was adopted and renamed Barry by his step father. There's no record of Barry changing his name back to Barack after his adoption. He is an Indonesian citizen first, and a British subject second. He also has citizenship in Kenya. The rule of law when Barry was born was that citizenship was inherited from the father. It's time to insist that he be impeached from office. Please sign the petition: http://www.petition2congress.com/2349/petition-to….
And remember to forward it on to everyone you know and sign it again after new years so that the new congress will have the petition too.
Obama was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate shows, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii (members of a Republican governor's administration) and most recently by the Republican governor herself.
Obama never legally changed his name to Soetoro, so he did not have to change it back. All the facts on the changing of names (he didn't), adoption (he was not adopted) and alleged Indonesian citizenship can be found by simply calling the Indonesian Embassy in Washington and asking (ask for the press officer). The answer is that he did not change his name, was not adopted and never was a citizen of indonesia.
When you are born in the USA you become a US citizen, and it was never the rule of law that a US citizen born in the USA inherited foreign citizenship from either parent.
Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)
It's not going to work;the entire federal government is on trail here;PROTOCOL RULES;YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CREDIBILITY OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF THE UNITES STATES OF AMERICA.ANY THREAT TO THAT CREDIBILITY IS DEALT WITH REGARDLESS OF PERSONALITIES OR CELEBRITY STATUS.THE COLONEL NEEDS TO STAND DOWN NOW;HE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO;IF…and WHEN it is proven that the Democratic party and ALL WASHINGTON INSIDERS KNEW that Obama was not a natural born person;then we know we have already had a revolution …a criminal one.AT BEST;THE refusal to show the certificate causing suspicion at a terrible time in u.s. history is a vile ;arragant ;unwise and un-acceptable response;something you would expect from a royal family;not a republic.
Obama was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate shows, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii (members of a Republican governor's administration) and most recently by the Republican governor herself.
Ellen this button is worn out, find a new one. By the way how much did Obama weigh and what was his length?: Shouldn't that information be on the Birth Certificate? I have yet to see any reference to this information. Obama was born. That we know but other than that the page is still blank. Belief is not knowledge nor can it be defined as fact. One side of this triangle is still missing and Lakin will not be allowed to search for that leg. Justice?
Whit…what are you talking about???? Obama's weight and length…Obama was born???Your answers do not correlate with my writings. You are about the six or seventh writer who has used my name and I believe you should have been using someone else's name. The writer Phyllisofical was truthful with me and said his writing was not for me and that he had made an error. I believe some of the rest of you are guilty in using my name or my name erronerously appeared somehow.
Since it is a short-form birth certificate, like those in most US states these days, the answer is NO, it is not necessary to show his weight or length.
However, it is the official birth certificate of Hawaii.
The Wall Street Journal put it this way:
"The birthers have also misrepresented the law in the claims they have made about Obama’s birth certificate. In truth, Obama has proved that he is a native of Hawaii, and this proof would hold up in any legal or administrative proceeding.
In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues…
Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement."
I did not write the above paragraph!
I did not write the above paragraph titled Ellen-6 hours ago!
Ellen Hujphrey, there seems to be some confusion here. I understand that the Ellen I was answering is a different person which has posted on other reports with the same strategy I see here, meaning there is a strategy which is being pushed for their own reasons, words that it is not a foregone conclusion they believe. Your post seem entirely different
I don't think you need to worry–it's probably clear to most people that you're not the only person commenting here named Ellen, especially since unlike most folks you do us the courtesy of including your last name. Thanks.
James I agree with you. America has more than its fair share of stupid people and many of them are in Congress. I think Einstein said it best;
"There is a difference between genius and stupidity, there is a limit on genius"
My head down, L. Col. Lankin deserves Medal of Honour. I was in the simmilar situation, as officer in the Czechoslovak Air Force, when I did refuse to sign new oath of alliance to Warsaw Pact after invasion of USSR into Czechoslovakia Aug.21, 1968. I was not even given cangaroo court, I was dishonoured from the Air Force, demoted to private and when the net around me was getting tight, I illegaly left the country and immigrated to Canada. Twenty years later the commies lost their power, I was fully rehabilitated and promoted. But I did believe that there is justice and democracy in the west. Obviously not with that cangaroo court with L. Col. Lankin, which denies him the crucial defence. Lets hope, that one day we will learn, that Obama was not Commander in Chief by the Constitution, wich I believe is sacred.
L. Col. Jerry Milek, CZAF, ret.
Lakin disobeyed the perfectly legal order "Go to Afghanistan" which was not given to him by Obama. Obama's eligibility has nothing to do with this legal order, which Lakin chose to disobey.
Hung up on legal, Ellen. Lakin did not follow the order becausse there is a question about it being legal, not about it being an order. Thanks to L. Col. Jerry Milek on that point How are you going to make that order legal or how can the court determine its legality if it never question what makes it legal.
Whit…you got the wrong person…you are about the sixth or seventh that has used the Ellen and it is not me. I never wrong anything about legality. Phyllisofical wrote me and told me he had made a mistake using Ellen.
There is no question that the order "go to Afghanistan" is perfectly legal.
Since he's not been given even the chance of a fair trial from Obama's collusionists, LTC Lakin
should absolutely refuse to submit to their "justice/discipline" (whatever form it takes), if "convicted".
Logically, he's come this far to make his point and try to force their hand-why stop now?? If he just
meekly submits to these vermin, they win (and he just gets swept under the rug-that's what they want)
Conversely, if he refuses to comply (and enough patriots STAND by him), they have a problem that
won't be stifled. It COULD be a thing of beauty!!!!
I believe he is waiting to see which of us stands for him in the days to xome. Who will take up the standard? He will not resist, but he is more dangerous in prison than free; martyrs always are.
I believe that our Creator always has the last word and as grim as this appears there is a blessing here designed to wake-up more American citizens out of complacency!
These judges and others involved with this man's prosecution should be ashamed of themselves.
Are we already China?? or Russia? A DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama's birth certificate has nothing to do with whether Lakin disobeyed the legal order "go to Afghanistan." Only if the Afghanistan War were illegal would that order be illegal, but the Afghanistan War IS legal, having been approved by Congress back during the Bush Administration.
Ellen, that button is about wore out. How do you define legal and how do you know this order is legal? That is the question, not that Lakin refused what is purported to be an order which this trial is doing all it can to doge that simple question. Got an answer?
Yeah…why are you writing me to ask how I would define legal. There are about six or seven posts on here that has used my name and I never wrote anything that would reflect your rebuttal to me. Get with the right poster!
There are very few illegal orders. Orders that violate the laws of war are illegal orders. The order "Go to Afghanistan' is certainly not an illegal order. It does not violate the laws of war. The order "Mop the floor" is not illegal either, and if a superior officer to Lakin had given that order, Lakin would have had to have done it–just as he had to report for duty in Afghanistan. Obama's eligibility has nothing to do with the situation.
Hey …this is Ellen and how did my name get associated with the article above? I did not write anything concerning if the war was legal or not. Get with the correct person and quit using my name!!!!
this is a crock of shit. the hussein obama guy dosen't have to prove citizenship. so how does the LCT have to follow an order from a non-citizen who is a phony so called president? this LCT should be reinstated and no court martial to follow. as americans we are raised to respect the president as he is the commander in chief. but if he is not an american born and raised he is a phony. they should be aborting his presidency…..
Obama has proven his citizenship by showing and posting the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed repeatedly by the Republican officials and Republican governor of Hawaii. This, however, is irrelevant to the Lakin case which is whether he disobeyed the perfectly legal order "Go to Afghanistan" which was given by a full col or a general, not Obama.
Welcome to NAZI Germany style kangaroo courts. We will have no justice in America anymore.
I am putting my trust in Jesus Christ my Saviour and look for perfect justice when he returns to rule.
Obama was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate shows, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii (members of a Republican governor's administration) and most recently by the Republican governor herself.
The reason for the multiple Social Security numbers is that the Social Security Administration hired lots of sloppy clerks over the years and hundreds of thousands of people have multiple SS numbers in their files.
Ah, I don't think so, Ellen.
The facts are that Obama has shown the official birth certificate and it has been confirmed. There are hundreds of thousands of errors in Social Security files often causing multiple numbers to be listed.
BUT, his grandmother said differently…don't you think she should know???? Your blowviating when you say Social Security Administration hired lots of sloppy clerks over the years…have you ever heard of deleting errors? Even I, as a forty-six year banker, knows how to do that. I don't buy your cover-up explanation.
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
Here is a transcript of the taped interview with Obama’s Kenyan grandmother after she is asked where was Obama born. ( http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads…
Quotes begin:
MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?
OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.
MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?
OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.
MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.
OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.
MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.
OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.
END QUOTE
A second interview in which Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that the first that she had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii is reported by the Tribune News Service in the Hartfort Courant, which describes how the Kenyan family received a letter announcing the Aug. 4, 1961, birth. The Tribune reporter noted an interview with Sarah Obama in which she said she was "so happy to have a grandchild in the U.S."
The actual quotation is:
“Six months after they wed, another letter arrived in Kenya, announcing the birth of Barack Hussein Obama, born Aug. 4, 1961. Despite her husband's continued anger, Sarah Obama said in a recent interview, she "was so happy to have a grandchild in the U.S." ( http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/world/chi…
This shows that the birth did not take place in Kenya, but that it took place in Hawaii because the family in Kenya had heard of the birth in a letter from Hawaii.
Re: "have you ever heard of deleting errors?'
Answer: Apparently they didn't, apparently because the errors don't have any real effect, they just pay the social security to the one right number in the end.
You are covering up a far-fetched mis-conception! Per the Office of the Inspector General of the Social Security Administration…person commits Social Security Fraud when they willingfully use a Social Security Number unlawfully and Obama using a SS# that is reserved for residents of Connecticut is a crime confirmed by the Social Security Administration Wednesday, December 1, 2010. There appears to be some of Obama's ruthless Chicago power being implemented????
There are multiple SS numbers in hundreds of thousands of files because the Social Security Administration was lazy and sloppy for decades. The fact that there are mutliple SS numbers in a file does not mean that a person has used more than one of them. The SS number from Connecticut comes because Obama's address in Hawaii was in zip code 96814 and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814. Notice how close 9 and 0 are together on the keyboard?
Ellen I have a hell of a deal for you. I own the Brooklyn Bridge and will sell it to you and only you for 1/3 of the cost of building it. I chose you because you believe everything Obama says. His grandmother said she attended his birth and she had never been out of Kenya at that time. A sister says he was born in Hawaii but has named two different hospitals. The Hawaiian birth certificate shown for him is only a certificate of birth. If you show up alive, you can get one of those. I am a retired M.D. and know what a certified birth
looks like and what information is on it. The one shown for Obama flunks that test.
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
Obama's sister was misquoted once, by UPI, but she–like he in his book and the governor of Hawaii and a witness who recalls being told of the birth–ALL said Kapiolani.
Here is a photocopy of Obama’s official birth certificate. Notice the seal on the back. Yes, it is on Factcheck’s site, but the idea that they could forge such a detailed document and the seal is laughable.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_t…
Here is confirmation that it is the official and only birth certificate that Hawaii issues
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574320190095246658.html)
Here is the first of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.kitv.com/r/17860890/detail.html
Notice where it says that there is an original birth certificate filed. Well, in 1961 foreign birth certificates, even those from other states, could not be filed in Hawaii. So the birth certificate in Obama’s files must be a Hawaii birth certificate.
Here is the second of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-ob…
Notice where it says that the document in the files VERIFIES that Obama was born in Hawaii. So, not only is there an official Hawaiian birth certificate in the files, but it says right on it that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii has never allowed the Department of Health to issue a birth document of any kind that says on it that anyone was born in Hawaii unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii, and that is what the officials in Hawaii have confirmed twice.
And here is the confirmation by the governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican, that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/0…
And here is the statement of a witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, in 1961:
http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495…
And here is a transcript of the taped interview with Obama’s Kenyan grandmother after she is asked where was Obama born. ( http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads…
Quotes begin:
MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?
OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.
MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?
OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.
MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.
OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.
MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.
OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.
END QUOTE
A second interview in which Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that the first that she had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii is reported by the Tribune News Service in the Hartfort Courant, which describes how the Kenyan family received a letter announcing the Aug. 4, 1961, birth. The Tribune reporter noted an interview with Sarah Obama in which she said she was "so happy to have a grandchild in the U.S."
The actual quotation is:
“Six months after they wed, another letter arrived in Kenya, announcing the birth of Barack Hussein Obama, born Aug. 4, 1961. Despite her husband's continued anger, Sarah Obama said in a recent interview, she "was so happy to have a grandchild in the U.S." ( http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/world/chi…
This shows that the birth did not take place in Kenya, but that it took place in Hawaii because the family in Kenya had heard of the birth in a letter from Hawaii.
Re Certified Birth Certificates. The Certification of Live Birth is the official and only birth certificate of Hawaii, the seal is on the back where it is supposed to be. It is a short-form birth certificate, but most states have now adopted short-form birth certificates as their official birth certificate. And ,not only is it the official birth certificate, but the officials and governor of Hawaii (a Republican) have confirmed the facts on it.
Re: "I own the Brooklyn Bridge." If you have bought the Kenyan myth, you have bought the Brooklyn Bridge.
Ellen, as I've told you before I' a retired physican and know what bhas to be on aq birth certificate. The image of Obama's birth certificate lacks the one thing that MUST be on a birth certificate is the name of the doctor who delivered the child. And that info is not on what is presented. Lastly, I'm done arguing eith you. I've read the book "How to argue with idiots" and i choose not to do that. Goodbye Ellen.
Have a nice life in Socialist Meximerica.
You are simply out of date. Most US States now are issuing only short-form birth certificates, which do not show the name of the doctor or the hospital. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_certificate
In Hawaii, the new short-form official birth certificate is called the Certification of Live Birth. That is the only birth certificate that Hawaii has issued since 2001, and it also does not send out copies of the original birth certificate anymore–not since 2001 even to people born before 2001. Thousands of people use the Certification of Live Birth every year. It is accepted as proof of birth in Hawaii by EVERY department in Hawaii (Yes, including DHHL; I checked), and it is accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department and the branches of the military.
The Wall Street Journal said:
“The birthers have also misrepresented the law in the claims they have made about Obama’s birth certificate. In truth, Obama has proved that he is a native of Hawaii, and this proof would hold up in any legal or administrative proceeding.
In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues….
Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.”
You are simply out of date. Most US States now are issuing only short-form birth certificates, which do not show the name of the doctor or the hospital. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_certificate
You are out of date. Most states have now gone to what are known as short-form birth certificates, which do not show either the name of the doctor or the name of the hospital. Hawaii adopted the short-form birth certificate format in 2001, and since then it has been the only birth certificate that Hawaii issues, and the only one that it sends out period–even to people who were born before 2001. It no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate. AND in Obama's case, the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed the facts on the document, that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.
I guess it doesn't make a lot of difference to many liberals or socialists where he was born I still believe he was born in Kenya. I might not really care if he was a good President. The things that bother me are too many to list here. The big ones are that his administration is corrupt and has spent us into bankruptcy. And the fact that you can't believe any yhing the government says about anything.. Example: Obama would have you believe that the recession is over—-BS—we're still bleeding jobs. The government is trading stocks to make the market look healthy. Go to Google.com and ask if the government is buying and selling stocks.You'd best get ready for the "double dip" and super-inflation. Printing money+government spending =
inflation. England will be the next Greece and then maybe America.
The Kenya myth is particularly stupid. Just going from Hawaii to Kenya and return by air in 1961 would have cost the equivalent of around $20,000 in today's dollars for two people. They did not have anywhere near that kind of money, and if they did, they would not have used it to travel while the wife was pregnant (lots of risk of still birth, not to mention that it is nicer to travel when you aren't late in pregnancy).
The National Review said: “The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”
Why is it so crazy? One reason is that IF a person were born in Kenya, she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. That would be either a US visa on a foreign passport or the change to his mother's US passport to include him. One or the other would have had to have been applied for at a US Consulate in Kenya and granted before the child would be allowed to enter the USA.
If such a document existed, it would be easy to find because the records of the application for the visa or for the change to the mother's passport would still be in the files of the US State Department, filed under applications for visas and applications for changes to passports in Kenya in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department until January 2009. No such document has been found. No such document exists.
Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii. Obama has already posted a copy of the official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth, which is the only birth document that Hawaii has been sending out since 2001. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate, only of the official birth certificate: The Certification of Live Birth.
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
IN addition, there is of course the official birth certificate of Hawaii, whose facts were confirmed twice by the Republican officials and republican governor of Hawaii.
The other issues that you mention are all valid reasons for voting against Obama in the next presidential election, and I would fight to the death for your right to do so. But Obama was born in Hawaii and is a Natural Born Citizen; that is why his election was confirmed UNANIMOUSLY by the US Congress.
Is that a certified birth certificate with seal on it or is it a certificate of birth which anybody alive can obtain.
IT IS THE OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, the certification of live birth.
In Hawaii, the short-form birth certificate is known as the Certification of Live Birth. It is the only birth certificate that Hawaii has issued since 2001. Thousands of people use it for passports and drivers licenses every year. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the long-form birth certificate, even to people who were born before 2001.
It has a seal on it, on the back where it is supposed to be (see the picture): http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_t…
You allege, wrongly, that anyone alive can obtain a certificate of birth. The legal name, by the way, is a CERTIFICATION of birth.
When Obama was born, in 1961, it was not possible to register a birth outside of Hawaii in the Hawaii Department of Health. That was not passed until 1982. Yet Obama's birth was registered in Hawaii in 1961. So the document in his file can only be a Hawaii original birth certificate.
Second, even today, it is not possible to obtain a Hawaii Certification (or in fact any birth document) that lies about the place of birth. Hawaii Certifications can now be issued to the children of residents of Hawaii when the children are born outside of Hawaii, but if the child were born in Boise Idaho, the Hawaii certification would have to say "Hawaii Certification of Live Birth: Place of Birth: Boise (or wherever)".
Obama's certification says on it very clearly that Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, and that is the fact that the Republican officials (two officials, the heads of the department of vital records and department of health) and the Republican governor of Hawaii have twice confirmed.
"The reason for the multiple Social Security numbers is that the Social Security Administration hired lots of sloppy clerks over the years and hundreds of thousands of people have multiple SS numbers in their files."
Ellen, surely you can do better than this. I have one Social Security number and I only signened up once. To have multiple SS numbers would require either theft or multiple signups and not sloppy work by the clerks. In the AACS radio shack on Biak, N. E. I. in 1945 we had two Robert William Fosters. They did not look alike and one was about 15 years older that the other.
At mail call we used part of their serial number to distinguish who the mail was for, We do have duplicate names but individual SS numbers so you have not answered Ellen Humphery's question. If you know the answer to the question please answer and if you don't know the answer at least say something sensible.
An interesting thing happened in a local plant—-22 men who worked there all had the same
SSN—-they were all found to be illegal aliens from Mexico.
If so you are lucky. I have three or four SS numbers in my file, and I also only signed up once.
Ellen Humphrey-Don't know the exact terminology, but you can call it "political collusion" (private citizen pelosi inspired and executed), acorn voter fraud, george soros (one-world-order) fraud. All kinds of conspiracies in this one!
For the benefit of the other "Ellen"- the "birth certificate" he showed was NOT an "official" document; those "officials" in Hawaii "showed" us nothing in the way of proof! "Anyone" will say anything "if someone pays them enough"! And just so you know, I've had the same social security number for 58 years, even tho' my name was changed! I seriously doubt that "hundreds of thousands of people have multiple SS numbers in their files", unless they're into "identity theft"!
The Certification of Live Birth, which Obama has shown and the facts on which have been repeatedly confirmed, is the official birth certificate of Hawaii. Thousands of people use it to get US passports every year.
The Wall Street Journal said:
“The birthers have also misrepresented the law in the claims they have made about Obama’s birth certificate. In truth, Obama has proved that he is a native of Hawaii, and this proof would hold up in any legal or administrative proceeding.
In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues….
Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.”
Re: "I seriously doubt that "hundreds of thousands of people have multiple SS numbers in their files", unless they're into "identity theft"! '
Answer; that is also a fact, caused by many sloppy clerks entering data over the years. Check your own file. I checked mine, and there are several wrong numbers in it.
It must be very discouraging to LTC Lakin to have his attorney broadcasting that his conviction is certain. If I was defending him, I would be proclaiming his innocence until it was no longer possible to do so. Only in America do we crucify those that are willing to stand up for the questions many harbor in their hearts but do not act upon. LTC Lakin is an American hero. He has been willing to stake his entire military career, personal reputation and a life of faithful service to call the question no other Senator or Representative or Judge is willing to engage. They are consummate cowards while Lakin puts them to shame.
It's nuts to say Obama's eligibility has nothing to do with this case. One would need to be a full kool-aid Obot to believe that is the case. LTC Lakin is an officer, not an enlisted man. His oath is to the U.S. Constitution, he takes no oath that requires him to follow an order that originates from someone who is not legally his commander-in-chief. In fact, his oath requires just the opposite, that he refuse to obey an illegal order, that is what he has done, and he is an American hero for doing so.
Obama, on the other hand, is a scumbag on his very best day.
An excellent article on this, please read:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag…
Until Lakin decided not to go to Afghanistan he obeyed all the orders that were given to him, and he even gave orders himself to lower level officers and enlisted men. Military law does not change the legality of a war when new presidents take over, nor does it allow officers or men to disobey a legqal order based on a claim that the president is not eligible. If it did, officers would be claiming that presidents are not eligible all the time. There are very few illegal orders, and the order "go to Afghanistan" is not one of them.
Gosh, maybe Lakin obeyed the orders at first because he didn't realize Obama was a usurper of the office? No hospital in Hawaii has any record of him or his mother ever being there. The online COLB is meaningless and purposely was displayed because it contains no traceable information, no hospital name, no Doctors, name, no registrars name, no signatures, no occupation of parents, etc. In short, it contains nothing that could be used to verify it's authenticity, it is in a word……USELESS. The HDH has never said they issued the on-line COLB. An election supervisor, Tim Adams, said recently that it was his job in 2008 to verify Hawaii citizenship for the election…….he called every hospital is Hawaii, no records of Obama being born at any of them. Up until 2006 it was common knowledge, and was printed in many news sources, both U.S., African and British, that Obama was "Kenyan born". His friggen grandmother has repeatedly said he was born in Mombassa, Kenya. Kenyan Parliament members have repeatedly said in their on-line minutes that Obama was born in Kenya. Etc., Etc.
Re Hospitals; There is no evidence that they have kept their birth records back 48 years, and if they did they could not say under federal privacy laws.
Obama has published the official birth certificate of Hawaii. It is a short form birth certificate. That is why the doctor's name and hospital's name is not on it. It is the only birth certificate that Hawaii has sent to anyone since 2001. Hawaii has not sent out copies of long-form birth certificates since the short-form certification became the official birth certificate in 2001.
The officials in Hawaii have confirmed the facts on the birth certificate twice, and so has the governor of Hawaii. That means at least four officials all say he was born in Hawaii, the clerk who filled in the form, the two who confirmed it, and the governor, and there is this witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, in 1961:
http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495…
Tim Adams did not have access to the birth certificate files, and in the five months since hi spoke his remarks have not been confirmed by anyone. http://kaystreet.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/honolul…
Re; "it was common knowledge, and was printed in many news sources, both U.S., African and British, that Obama was "Kenyan born".
Answer: Have you any idea what it cost to go from Hawaii to Kenya and return in 1961? About twenty thousand 2010 dollars for two people. Few people made that trip, and even fewer when they were late in pregnancy (especially since Kenya had Yellow Fever at the time.)
If a person were born in Kenya, she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. That would be either a US visa on a foreign passport or the change to his mother's US passport to include him. One or the other would have had to have been applied for at a US Consulate in Kenya and granted before the child would be allowed to enter the USA.
If such a document existed, it would be easy to find because the records of the application for the visa or for the change to the mother's passport would still be in the files of the US State Department, filed under applications for visas and applications for changes to passports in Kenya in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department until January 2009. No such document has been found. No such document exists.
The National Review said: “The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”
Give it up. The Doctor story you mentioned did not pan out, the doctor never said he delivered the baby, only that "Stanley had a baby" and records show he retired at least 4 years before Obama was born.
The college Tim Adams works for in Kentucky told him to stop talking about Obama's eligiblity…so he did.
The state department claimed Stanley Ann's pastport records prior to 1965 were "destroyed" in routine records destruction, which has turned out to be a proven lie.
It's absurd to believe the "president" could not get a copy of his own original Hawaii long-form birth certificate simply be paying a small fee and asking for it. Hawaii has stated that "none" of the orignal files have been destroyed. No one has seen an original Hawaii BC belonging to Obama because it never existed. They may have seen an original BC, but not an original Hawaii one. Lingle never said she saw it. No one has…how gullible can you be?
Bye
Re: "The state department claimed Stanley Ann's pastport records prior to 1965 were "destroyed" in routine records destruction, which has turned out to be a proven lie. "
Sure. The State Department is lying. The officials in Hawaii are lying. The governor of Hawaii is lying. The Indonesian government is lying. The Kenyan government is lying. Former VP Cheney is part of the plot since he did not call for objections. McCain is part of the plot since he did not sue. Obama's parents successfully smuggled Obama into America from Kenya without a visa, obviously because they bribed the immigration officials. It is all one great big plot.
Re; "It's absurd to believe the "president" could not get a copy of his own original Hawaii long-form birth certificate simply be paying a small fee and asking for it. "
Answer: Obama, like everyone else, cannot get copies of the original birth certificate anymore because Hawaii only sends out the new official birth certificate to everyone. For Obama to ask for the original would be to imply that there was something wrong with the official birth certificate and that the words of the two officials who confirmed and the governor who confirmed cannot be believed–which he would not do. And, it would be asking for a document that no one else gets, which would be unfair and so he would not do it. And, if he did ask for it, Hawaii might feel that it should not give it to him because the official birth certificate is legally sufficient, and with the repeated confirmations of the officials in Hawaii more than sufficient, and because we do not give it to anyone else, and so if we did give it to him that would be unfair, so why do it.
Re; The doctor. He did not have to be the doctor who delivered the baby. All he had to do was to know the doctor who did deliver the baby who told him and he told the witness. The key fact is that she REMEMBERS that she was introduced to an obstetrician and the name of the obstetrician (she did not have to look it up, she remembered it) and that this man said to her "Stanley had a baby.' It is a fact that Obama's mother's first name was Stanley, and that the doctor said it to her on August 4, 1961 and that she wrote home about it. This confirms the birth in Hawaii.
The governor did not say that she personally saw the document, but she did say "Kapiolani Hospital," which was not in the two statements by the officials (but happens to be the same hospital cited by the witness and by Obama in his book). Where did she get the "Kapiolani Hospital" from? If she simply got it from Obama's book, she would not be repeating something that she knew as a fact but only repeating Obama's claim, so unless she is part of the plot, she would not do that.
I am told that the attorney general of Hawaii is a conservative Republican. If he thought that there was anything wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, he could have taken action. But he didn’t. Part of the plot too, I guess.
The Wall Street Journal put it this way: "Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn."
Further to the State Department destroying records. It said that it had destroyed applications for passports. It did not say that it had destroyed the records of the passports themselves, which it has not done. The FOIA request by a birther asked only for the applications for passports, not for the records of the passports themselves. It has destroyed applications for passports; It has not destroyed records of the passports themselves. The FOIA request was for the applications. Get it?
This is Ellen…I did not write the above…there have been six or seven writings with my name and I did not write any of them. Only one person has notified me of his error….he had used my name by mistake!!!!
The U.S. Constitution is supposed to be the Supreme Law of the Land, not the President/Commander-in-Chief, or even the U.S. Supreme Court!
Our Founding Fathers established Article II, Section I, Clause 5 for the purpose of national security! Leutenant Colonel Terry Lakin was in his Constitutional right to question orders from Obama, the so-called POTUS/Commander-in-Chief. Obama has continually refused to be willing to show any and all necessary documentation to proove his constitutional eligibility, starting with his long-form birth certificate and not a fabricated, computer-generated, false certificate of live birth.
Shane on the Democrats for sneaking him in as a presidential candidate and shame on the Republicans for NOT vetting Obama while he was running for the presidential office, even though the Democrats made Senator McCain be drilled by the Senatorial committee!!! They fell asleep at the wheel!!! Because of their laziness, this country is in the worst mess it has ever been!!! And with the U.S. Supreme Court not hearing this case, as well, it will take GOD'S GRACE (A MIRACLE INDEED!) to let the TRUTH be made known and something actually done about it!!!
PRAY, AMERICANS!!! PRAY HARD AND PRAY FAITHFULLY!!!
Obama has shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the Republican officials and the Republican governor of Hawaii.
It is computer generated because it is supposed to be computer generated. It is not a copy of the original birth certificate, which Hawaii stopped sending out in 2001. It is the new official birth certificate of Hawaii which everyone in Hawaii gets. Thousands of people use it to get passports every year. Hawaii has not sent out copies of the original birth certificate since 2001–that is Hawaii's decision.
The Republican officials in Hawaii and the Republican governor of Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed the fact that Obama was born in Hawaii, and there is even a witness.
Here is a photocopy of Obama’s official birth certificate. Notice the seal on the back. Yes, it is on Factcheck’s site, but the idea that they could forge such a detailed document and the seal is laughable.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_t…
Here is confirmation that it is the official and only birth certificate that Hawaii issues
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574320190095246658.html)
Here is the first of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.kitv.com/r/17860890/detail.html
Notice where it says that there is an original birth certificate filed. Well, in 1961 foreign birth certificates, even those from other states, could not be filed in Hawaii. So the birth certificate in Obama’s files must be a Hawaii birth certificate.
Here is the second of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-ob…
Notice where it says that the document in the files VERIFIES that Obama was born in Hawaii. So, not only is there an official Hawaiian birth certificate in the files, but it says right on it that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii has never allowed the Department of Health to issue a birth document of any kind that says on it that anyone was born in Hawaii unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii, and that is what the officials in Hawaii have confirmed twice.
And here is the confirmation by the governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican, that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/0…
And here is the statement of a witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, in 1961:
http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495…
The copy you are showing is a Hawaiian short form COLB which any foreign born child can apply for and obtain. The form you show has no notary or authenticating stamp of any kind and does not have a Doctor's signature and is not the long form birth certificate. It seems as though there have been conflicting reports pertaining to Obama's birth…even that officials in Hawaii have refused to comment on Obama's birth. Have you ever heard of misrepresenting the facts under coercion? All you know, as well as I, is what you have read in the papers. Case closed!!!
The short-form birth certificate that is shown is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, and it is the only one that Hawaii has sent to anyone since 2001. Thousands of people use it to get passports every year. The stamp is on the back, as it is supposed to be. Look at this picture again: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_t….
There is no doctor's signature or doctors name because it is not the long-form birth certificate, but Hawaii does not send out the long-form birth certificate. It only sends out the short-form birth certificate.
Hawaii does not allow a birth certificate or birth document of any kind to lie about the place of birth. Thus, though birth certificates can be issued to persons born outside of Hawaii, they must state the actual place of birth. So, such a birth certificate would read; 'Hawaii Certification of Live Birth: Place of Birth: New Jersey (or wherever)" Obama's Certification says on it that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, and that is the fact that the officials in Hawaii and the governor of Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed.
Hey….you don't have to continue to us the word "Republican this and Republican that"…I have been a registered and voting democrat for almost sixty years.
My point is that they are from the other party and have not the slightest motive to lie about what they saw. Moreover, if they did lie, they would never get jobs in the Republican Party again. In addition to the two officials and the governor (all from the republican party), the document was, of course, seen by the original clerk–and we do not know what party she or he was from.
Lord, let me be thankful for the fool who is posting against my postings, but for without him performing as a fool , I could not succeed!
P.S. You are arguing with newspaper clippings…you are arguing with newspaper clippings…you are arguing with newspaper clippings…you are arguing with newspaper clippings………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………!
They are the truth. They show the facts. If you ignore them, you are dreaming.
God is with you, LtCol Lakin. It is times of trial that test men of courage and conviction. You may count yourself honored to stand in the ranks of such as Saint Paul, St Peter, and others who likewise stood firm on truth and weathered the storm of wicked men.
You are in my prayers.
"{My point is that they are from the other party and have not the slightest motive to lie about what they saw. Moreover?"
They are politicians. aren't The Democrats say Bush lied and he is a Republican. You keeo acting like you don't even believe what your write.
Yes, Bush lied. But he didn't do so to help Obama. That was the point–why would a Republican lie to help a Democrat become president?
The Manchurian Muslim President Barack Obama Is The One That Should Be On Trial Dec 14 Not Col Lakin, Yikeess, The Military Judge Col Denise Lind Must Be Court Martialed Or Dishonorable Discharged For Breaking Her Oath To "Protect The Constitution Against All Enemies And Domestic," Col Denise Lind Who Has Been Appointed By Obamas Colored Goons Chi-Town Style, Refuses To Let Col Lakins Lawyers Present Any Evidence Against Pres Obamas Legallity As Commander In Chief, Because It Might Be Embarrasing To Show That The President Is Also a Fraud Born Out Of The USA, And Carries A Fraudlent Social Security Card, Yikeess, Sounds Like Col Lakin Can Not Get A Fair Army Trial. Follow The Money And Up Jumps George Soros The Snake
Ellen, I agree with you. But we have to fight smart. The elite is just looking for an opportunity to institute martial law and confiscate guns. If we revolt physically, that will be their justification.
Sorry, this comment should have been related to MJI's posting, not Ellen's.
Phyllisofical…I appreciate your honest mistake and you telling me. I have gotten six or seven different posting addressed to me and I do not have the slightest idea what they are talking about! Thanks for correcting your mistake and being honest with me.
It is evident that Obama owns the Department Of Justice, in any case that has to do with Obama a very liberal judge will be appointed. This is not justice, this is a "KANGAROO COURT". Justice is not blind, Justice is dead in this country. Look at his appointments to the Supreme Court!
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. IT IS A KANGAROO COURT….THE JUDGES WE HAVE ON THE BENCHES TODAY ARE LIBERALS AND WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT. THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY PROTECTING OBAMA. OBAMA IS JUST AS BAD AS THE JUDGES ALSO. OBAMA COULD FORK UP HIS BIRTH CERTIF AND CLEAR THIS MATTER, BUT HE REFUSES. WHAT MAKES LAKIN ANYMORE WRONG FOR DISOBEYING AND ORDER AND OBAMA REFUSES TO SHOW HIS BIRTH CERTIF????? OBAMA SHOULD BE IN COURT AND FORCED TO PRODUCE IT.
I can agree with you except about owning the Department of Justice. No your not wrong I just think it takes a bit more than Obama has to give, therefore we are battling a greater power than Obama, himself but the one we serve has the greater power, Ellen keeps calling that order a legal order when Lakin is challenging its legality. If he is not allowed to question the legality of the order how can the trial be fair? To my mind it take more that Obama and his charisma to keep everyone in line, including Ellen and James but I am not close to being convinced they believe what they write. Ellen has pushed that same button so many times that is is worn slap out and it always gives the same unprovable answer, The Lord does have power to throw a monkey wrench in the gears of kangaroo justice but maybe He wants to judge many more who give their support to this injustice in which case LTC Lakin will be convicted as I was before the Lord threw the monkey wrench. But when he tossed the wrench in the gears it sure tore thing up. Trust in the Lord and he will direct thy path.
Judge Lind, another spineless, gutless, anti-American. Who will stand up to this Muslim Traitor Barack Hussein O. He must be impeached before he divides Americans and black and whites !!
When even justice becomes unjust because the judges are corrupt what is there left to do ? They know perfectly well that Obama is ineligible they are covering up for this masquerade.
What do you all mean by "we are letting this happen" ?? Obviously Lakin and many others have tried again and again to put their lives at risk to fight against this deception but of no avail. What can you do with powerful judges and congressmen who live in bad faith and corruption. They should all be convicted of treason but instead laugh at us and get away with it. And then they CONVICT the just !!!
I THINK THESE JUDGES SHOULD BE REMOVED. I THINK ALSO OBAMA SHOULD BE IN COURT FORCING HIM TO FORK UP HIS BIRTH CERTIF. OBAMA HAS NO MORE RIGHT TO HIDE HIS BIRTH CERTIF THEN LAKIN DID REFUSING AN ORDER. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO SEE OBAMA BIRTH CERTIF, AND HE REFUSES, AND HE SHOULD BE IN COURT HIMSELF FOR THAT AND IMPEACHED. LAKIN SHOULD NOT BE COURT MARTIALED. OBAMA SHOULD BE IMPEACHED FOR DISOBEYING AN ORDER FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SHOW HIS BIRTH CERTIF.
Obama has already shown his official birth certificate, and the officials in Hawaii and the governor of Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed the fact that Obama was born in Hawaii.
So because a man who claims to be eligable to be President refuses to prove that he is; a good man believing there were questions to be answered is going to prison for doing what a large percentage of Americans feel themselves. THEN and ONLY THEN will all of us know the truth. I strongly believe he is NOT. There's too much evidence to suggest he isn't. The bottom line is…….what the h*ll is wrong with government today?
Obama has already proven that he was born in Hawaii by showing the official birth certificate of Hawaii and the officials in Hawaii and the Republican governor of Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed the facts on the birth certificate.
Here is a photocopy of Obama’s official birth certificate. Notice the seal on the back. Yes, it is on Factcheck’s site, but the idea that they could forge such a detailed document and the seal is laughable.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_t…
Here is confirmation that it is the official and only birth certificate that Hawaii issues
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574320190095246658.html)
Here is the first of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.kitv.com/r/17860890/detail.html
Notice where it says that there is an original birth certificate filed. Well, in 1961 foreign birth certificates, even those from other states, could not be filed in Hawaii. So the birth certificate in Obama’s files must be a Hawaii birth certificate.
Here is the second of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-ob…
Notice where it says that the document in the files VERIFIES that Obama was born in Hawaii. So, not only is there an official Hawaiian birth certificate in the files, but it says right on it that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii has never allowed the Department of Health to issue a birth document of any kind that says on it that anyone was born in Hawaii unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii, and that is what the officials in Hawaii have confirmed twice.
And here is the confirmation by the governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican, that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/0…
And here is the statement of a witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, in 1961:
http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495…
If You Want To See vWhat A Rope-A-Dope President Obamacare Is Just Follow The Bouncing Ball, This Is The Way Chi-Town Politics Gets Into The US Army, First They Pay Off Anyone In The Way, Then They Get A Colored Green Horn Col Military Puppet Judge A Joung Lady Denise Lind And Tell Her What Must Be Done As Judge Of The Trial Of A War Veternan. Now Even Terrorist Get To Apply A Defense, Not Col Lakin, What And Why?? Because It Is The Scum Of The Earth Barack Obama The Chi-Town ACORN Organizer Deluxe, Which Means Pay Off And Lie Is OK. Col Lind Takes Her Orders From Washington Obama Goons. Yikeess, First Step Reject Defense Requests To Call Witnesses Ambassador Alan Keyes, What?? Then Second Defense Witness Lt Gen Thomas McInerney, Keyes Was To Explain The Constitutional Issues Involved In The Case And General McInerney Was To Talk About The Training Soldiers Receive Regarding When They Should Question And Even "Disobey Orders". So Lt Col Lakin A Combat Veternan Is Treated Worse Then The Muslim Terrorists, This Is Another Black-Eye For The Obama Goons And All Proud Americans Must Stand Up And Not Let This Happen.
What's the matter with this stupid judge? A lot of people don't believe that obummer is eligible
to be president. He must be a democrat and got paid off by obummer.
All 535 members of Congress voted to confirm Obama's election. It was unanimous.
The Col and every man serving can no longer question the fitness of his superior to issue orders or that superior's qualification according to the SCOTUS. Americans will not tolerate this adminstration for much longer, the decrees and intrusions into the freedoms we all know to be true are being eroded by incremental infringement into our very rights without ever making transparency or legality a issue. The very freedoms we cherish are disappearing.
It is the wish of millions that this un-credentialed person serving as a POTUS be served notice that he lift the legal restriction on all his personal records and that we the people have that right to inspect and decide his legal status and ability to serve in the capacity he now holds illegally. The SCOTUS, is the highest legal word in this matter and either they submit to the will of the people or they too will be subject to investigation and removal by a growing representation of those in the congress. There is no doubt now that the will of the people is being obstructed and denied. When in the event it becomes necessary…….
Is there an appeal? I assume this will go to the SCOTUS and if they decline to hear his case we should take to the streets. This can NOT be allowed to stand.
The SCOTUS has already proven repeatedly that they will not touch anything related to Obama's obvious ineligibility.
This case is different from any that have been brought before. A man's life hangs in the balance. They will have a difficult time refusing to hear this appeal and if they do I believe there will be demonstrations.
Hell, even if they won't let him defend his position, he has every right to refuse orders he believes to be unconstitutional/illegal. It should be THEIR responsibility to prove the orders legal.
We can;t go to the streets we are the wrong color and would be called racist . The judge is a nigger and will stand up for ths half breed son of a white trash communist whore. The courts are now null and void if it is a case of white against black that was proven when the pink panthers were not allowed by the DOJ to be brought to trial and were told by Holder that they will not hear cases of white vs black
Is it possible that the damned federal judge in this case is a relative of the American TRAITOR and Taliban member, John Walker Lindt? It would certainly seem to be the case. Lakin is an 18 year career officer with a sterling record who's only crime is to question the legitimacy of a sitting President; the ONLY one as far as anyone knows in our history, to have never been properly vetted
prior to being allowed, erroneously in my opinion, to be elected to and retain that office. The Cowards in the Supreme Farce, have decided NOT to hear or adjudge the case on the grounds apparently that they have not the moral courage or the duty and obligation to do so in behalf of the citizens of the United States.and it's CITIZENS! Armed insurrection is not far off. When it comes; I for one, will be a partisan for restoration of our Constitution, the rule of law and our way of life; NOT what we have as a travesty, currently.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder No Longer in D.S.M. – NYTimes.com
It's interesting that since Obama has been pretty widely defined as a narcissist that narcissism has been removed from the official list of psychiatric disorders.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/narcissi…
"WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"
WHERE ARE THE COLLEGE AND LAW SCHOOL RECORDS?
Obama has posted his official birth certificate and the facts on it were confirmed by the officials in Hawaii.
Obama does not have to publish his college or law school records, and no president has.
Frankly, I have had it. I am ready to march. Someone please tell me where and when. I am 76 yrs old and have nothing to lose. I will gladly die before I will spend the rest of my life on my knees. Now for those of you who are ready and willing to do what has to be done let's roll, and if you don't, then stop posting all your b.s. to make yourself feel better about your cowardice. Now, Who is ready?
Enjoy the walk, wherever it is that you're going. Of course, you'll need to tell people who you actually are and where they can find you to join up with you.
Just think about West recently elected from Florida. He was cashiered for doing his duty and now ellen an company decry LCT Lakin for demanding a hearing on legality. If it was illegal for West to get his information the way he did maybe we should all challenge the authority of our government to issue unconstitutional edicts of which there are many.
I AM 74 YRS OLD AND I WOULD GLADLY JOIN YOU IN THE STREETS. I KNOW THE MILITARY HAS STRICT CODES TO FOLLOW AND DISOBEYING AN ORDER IS SERIOUS, BUT THIS CASE REQUIRES ATTENTION THAT OBVIOUSLY THESE LIBERAL JUDGES DO NOT WANT TO BRING FORTH BECAUSE THEY ARE PROTECTING OBAMA. I PERSONALLY FEEL WE HAVE THE WORST JUDGES IN THIS COUNTRY THEN EVER, AND ALSO THE WORST PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY AND THEY ARE ALL RUINING OUR LIVES AND TRYING TO RUN LAKIN'S CAREER. I THINK THE JUDGE SHOULD GIVE LAKIN THE CHANCE TO DEFEND HIMSELF AND BRIING FORTH HIS DEFENSE, AND ITS A SHAME THESE JUDGES REFUSE TO DO THAT.
OBAMA REFUSES TO SHOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HIS BIRTH CERTIF….THE JUDGES REFUSE TO HEAR THE CASE, AND LAKIN REFUSES AN ORDER UNTIL HE KNOWS OBAMA IS LEGALLY RIGHT TO ORDER HIM…….. I STAND WITH LAKIN, AND THE OTHERS ARE THE ONES WRONG AND SHOULD BE REMOVED.
never,never,never,never,never,quit—–never make it easy for the EVIL to prevail—-in the END evil is defeated forever. In the end there is Heaven or Hell. Pray for the people who enjoy the evil to repent because they do not realise how BAD Hell is.Hell is forever.
I BELIEVE THE JUDGES IN THIS CASE ARE PROTECTING OBAMA. I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY WILL NOT HEAR THE CASE OR LET LAKIN USE WHAT HE HAS AS A DEFENSE. IT IS SHAMEFUL AND THE JUDGES ARE SHAMEFUL. ITS SAD THAT A GOOD MAN SUCH AS LAKIN WHO HAS SERVED THIS COUNTRY FOR YEARS IS BEING TREATED LIKE THIS AND GIVEN NO CHANCE TO DEFEND HIMSELF. OUR JUDGES AND COURTS HAVE BECOME DISGRACE.
He chose not to obey a perfectly legal order, and he must take the consequences.
It is not a lawful order when the one giving the order does not have the legal right to give it. This half breed is not the legal president because he has never brought forth the proof of any kind ,no college transripts no law degree no BIRTH certificate. Until he does that he can not give an order
"he can not give an order"
Actually he can give lots of them, just as he has, and those who ignore them can go to jail. Of course in this case he didn't give the order that was ignored, anyway.
Obama did not give the order. It was given by a superior office to Laking, a full colonel or a general. The order was "Go to Afghanistan," which is a perfectly legal order since the Afghanistan War is a legal war, confirmed by Congress back in 2001. Ever since that time, the US military has been ordering people to go to Afghanistan, and the situation did not change when the presidency changed from Bush to Obama.
Obama's eligibility is thus irrelevant to the Lakin case. However, Obama has already proven his eligibility with the official birth certificate of Hawaii, the certification of live birth, which is the only birth certificate that Hawaii has issued since 2001. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the long form birth certificate to anyone, even to people born before 2001. It only sends out the short-form certification of live birth.
Like McCain and Bush, Obama did not show his college or graduate school records. No president has shown detailed records (a few showed grade point averages).
This is proof we need more idiots in the justice system , military or civilian , we need social justice instead of equal justice , we need social law instead of constitutional law , we need more absurd laws instead reasonable laws , we must all bow to the king of fraud and his useless idiots that do everything they can to protect him .Colonel Denise Lind and other socialists like her are right in line with the fools that could not legitimitley judge are pickle canning competitution . It makes you realize why many believe women should be kept barefoot and pregnant in the kithen .
What a shame. Judges, even the Supremes, are afraid to go under the thumb of Obama. This domino effect strongly suggests that our nation is no longer 'of the people, by the people, and for the people'.
Don Krueger
It takes only four votes by justices for them to take a case. That means that at least two of the four conservative and one swing justice must have voted not to take the latest case (and all the earlier birther cases too). At least one, possibly more than one, but at least one of the following four justices must have voted not to take the case.
Chief Justice Roberts
Alito
Scalia
Thomas
And I'd bet that all except maybe Thomas voted against it., if they even took a formal vote beyond Roberts saying something like, "Anyone think this is worth considering?"
Forget the birth certificate, what about the clause regarding both parents are to be native born, US citizens. His father is not. What is the matter with the judges in this country that they are ignoring everything? It is incredible. I am so disgusted. This last one based on this clause is being postponed. They know he is in violation of it. Pelosi knew when she vetted him. He is illegal based on that. This is just an insane world and it must be stopped.
There is NO clause in the Constitution requiring parents to be native born or even citizens. The original meaning of Natural Born Citizen refers only to the place of birth.
Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) {Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan's attorney general}
“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT),
It is past time that American's begin to remove Judges who do not have America's best interest and our Constitution in mind – ALWAYS. I am so disgusted.
What I find so VERY frustrating is that the government seems to be in a glass bubble and appear to know NOTHING of what American's with half a brain are aware of.
May God Bless Lt. Col. Lakin. He put up a good fight and this woman just blew him away with the "rule of law" that was not created for the types of people this nation is NOW having to deal with.
I think we who have read all this and believe that Lakin is right and that the question should be answered, need to raise our voice and stand up. It's stand up time folks. Jerry O'Neal jerbear1@centurytel.net I for one will be calling my Congressman and Senator. I will pass this story on.
"appear to know NOTHING of what American's with half a brain are aware of"
Listening to people with half a brain doesn't seem like a great idea.
It is easy to see who tells Obuma what to say and do.
http://alturl.com/w9up5
Romans 1:18 (New King James Version)
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness
and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness…
Hey all you poor loosers – I got over the AWOL who deserted at a time when our country was at war only to have the Supremes appoint him Liar-in-Chief who then lied us into the mess in Iraq and ordered thousands to their deaths and/or wounded. Where were you all then?
Did the Col suddenly decide that 7 years of a bogus war for the great military-industrial-complex he now has a moral backbone or is it a black Democrat can't give him orders. Is he saying only white AWOL Deserter Republicans can tell HIM what to do in this man's army?
You are more than likely some dumb ass liberal black that got his ass kiked out because you were to stupid to make itor you slithered through BECAUSE YOU WERE BLACK at least Bush was in the millitary this half breed did not even try to go the low life Muslim Communist can't even give a five word speechunless has some body write it for him Ispent six and a half years three of that in combat lost the use of my legs to see some half breed son of a white trash cvommunist whore and aMuslim America hater end up stinking up the White House!
"at least Bush was in the millitary"
He got into the National Guard to avoid service in Vietnam–and skipped out on even that.
Thank you for your service. Sorry about the loss of your legs, and, if you ever had it, the loss of your ability to deal with others with common decency.
You apparently don't write often do you or is your spelling that bad as well as your english. I'm none of the things you claimed, But you keep watching Fox Faux News and Glen Beck for your "fair and balanced" news and do keep listening to Druggy Rush – only time will help you escape being delusional. Reading history should bring you around hopefully.
I fear for the Republic as well. When a sitting president isn't required to show proof of citzenship or being "natural born", anything will be accepted. This situation is both dangerous and criminal. Although I doubt they will take it on, or only hope whatsoever in the next two years is that the Republican Congress (house of Representatives) will take this issue on. It may get through the House, buit it will die in the Senate because it is still Democrat controlled. Sadly, the Supreme Court will shirck their dury, and sidestep the issue as well. This country is in big big trouble.
As I understand natural born it means someone who understands the Constitution and respects its moral foundation. We now have evidence that not all United States born citizens would meet this definition and there is no evidence that Obama could meet this definition. We have a number of citizens serving in the House and Senate that does not meet this definition even though there is no question that both them and their parents were born in this country. For this reason we need to reassess our definition of natural born. The framers of our Constitution tried to set conditions so that one who had no allegiance to the principles of our Constitution would not be nominated, much less elected president. Yet, for the first time in our history we turned our back on all these checks and balances to elect a foreign spirit to run our nation and to defend that choice with all their might, As a result we have lost our strength even as Sampson when his hair was cut. The strength was not in the hair but in the obedience.
“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT),
I hate to say it but the reason there were fraggings is now obvious.
"I hate to say it."
Yeah, your reticence is obvious.
I don't hate to say it I know why most of them happened, too bad you weren't around to find out
LOL , still no clue what drives people to find truth, "eh" jim?
"The laws of man may bind him in chains or may put him to death, but they never can make him wise, virtuous, or happy." J.Q. Adams
So which do you lack jim, wisdom, virtue or happiness? Or is it all three?
I definitely do not lack happiness, and I'm willing to let God and others decide about the first two. I suppose you're convinced that you're overflowing with the first two, while clearly lacking the third?
But what your comment has to do with advocating murder, I don't know. I assume you're just trying to change the subject.
This is the last time I will be posting on this site! Six or seven times my name has been confused with ? and the rebuttals should have gone to someone else. Phyllisofical was apologetic and told me he had missent his rebuttal to me by mistake. Thank you Phyllisofical!
Are all Judges including Military, Democrats and afraid of disfavor or maybe even physically afraid? This whole thing really smells bad
Why is it that every court treats the Obama eligibility question with contempt? Maybe one of you bots out there could explain it. Most of us were raised to do no harm, never lie and never hide the truth. So far we've seen so many judges behave in a way only the true criminals they pass judgement upon behave. That doesn't say much for justice when it is so easily denied and perverted.
When the courts throw out about 66 cases because the plaintiffs did not have standing, it is highly likely that the plaintiffs did not have standing.
I see, refusing to hear a case makes the contested action legitimate? Just like refusing to remove illegal entrants from our country who have been remanded to jails for violating the law is legal , just like refusing to profile for illegal entry of terrorists, voters and spies is upholding the constitution to the best of ones sworn ability.
Tell me ellen, how do we try a murderer in a court if he is innocent until proven guilty? If he is assumed innocent then the court's job is to weigh the evidence is it not? If the court refuses to operate then we are quickly inundated with all manner of crime which it sees fit to allow. That is why we have a constitutional right to hold government, the courts are part of it too, accountable. Read the first amendment, the "capstone" amendment, and tell me where it says we shall not seek redress when we have no standing. Show me any law congress has passed that says we the people have no standing to pursue actions in a court.
This is entirely different than allowing an accused criminal to subpoena documents irrelevant to her or his case. Let us suppose that one of the 911 terrorists is brought to trial and says that he acted because Bush had done X or Y. He cannot demand to get records from the White House on the subject of X or Y.
The issue of standing has to do with whether a plaintiff was actually harmed by an action. A person who was injured by an oil spill can sue. One who was not affected cannot. Merely being a citizen does not show that you were harmed.
This is clearly the law as shown by the 66 or so cases decided, and yet no one in Congress is hollering to change the situation. If you feel that the law is bad, fight to change the law. That is your right, and I will fight to the death to preserve that right. But, unless and until the law changes, that is the law.
Have any of you called your Congress and Senate persons and ask why they Failed YOU ~and the country by not vetting Barry Soetoro????
Or that your states Governer and Attorney Generals Failed you in the same way??????????
Have any of you done that???
Have any of you called your Governor???????
Your state Attorney General??????????/
Have you asked them why they allowed Barry Soetoro on your states ballot???????????
What they failed to VETT Barry Soetoro?????????
If you wish to help Col Lakin get off your FAT ASS'S and get busy NOW!!!!!!!!!!
What the bloody hell is wrong with all you people, have you no clue how to speak up for yourselfs, this man has laied it on the line for your LAZY FAT ASS'S so get busy……..
I think you'll find that most people fear being identified by their oppressors. They are the silent majority for a reason. It is hard enough to keep your head above the water without having the government torpedo you. I know a number of my friends and family do government contracting work and will not criticize it out of fear of losing the job. Look at how many people that involves. Some of them go along with what they know to be wrong just to stay on the gravy train they couldn't find in the private sector.
That is where the voices have gone. Never mind them and look to the process of creating what will untie their tongues before it is too late.
America's BEST & WORSE!! F R E E THIS AMERICAN PATROIT-LAKIN!!! IMPRISION THE USIPERA
I would like to know how a judge can deny a defendent the right to discover the evidence he needs to defend hiself and why that this halfbreed son of a white trash communist whore is allowed to keep thumbing his nose at the American people of which he works for . McCain was investigated and turned over everyting the democraps demanded ,we ask for proof from Barry and we get some fraudulent peice of toilet paper and the bird. Myself I would like to see this Kenyian userper get a 50 call impeachment Enter text right here!
Imean a 50 caliber impeachment pardon the spelling
Because Obama's eligibility has nothing to do with the perfectly legal order "Go to Afghanistan." Obama has already shown that he is eligible with the official birth certificate and the confirmations fo the officials in Hawaii, but the military court does not have to see that proof because it is irrelevant to whether the order "Go to Afghanistan" is legal. Obama did not give that order, it was given to Lakin buy a full colonel or a general, and it is a perfectly legal order since the Afghan War was approved by Congress and the US military has been sending people there since 2001.
ELLEN ITS DUMB ASSES LIKE YOU THAT THAT DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT CREATE PROBLEMS THERE IS NO OFFICIAL B.C. THAT ANYONE HAS SEEN TO DATE. IF THE FAKE B.C. ON THE WEB WAS REAL DO YOU THINK A MILLION PLUS PEOPLE WOULD STILL BE DEMANDING THE REAL ONE. YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE
The Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people every year. The facts on Obama's birth certificate were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii and by the Republican governor of Hawaii.
Only two guys who would not give their real names have claimed that the birth certificate was forged. The McCain campaign checked out the allegations of forgery as they checked out the allegations of birth in Kenya, and found them false.
It is easy for a million people who do not like Obama to cry for anything that they think will hurt him. But the reason that Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck all call birthers crazy, and the reason that the US Congress voted to confirm Obama's election UNANIMOUSLY is that no one responsible believes the allegation that Obama was born outside of the USA.
When Lakin is convicted,all true Ameracans should support a national effort to get him pardoned by the next President. Realize to accomplish this we must battle the Liberal media and elect a man that is honerable,God fearing,and truly loves the USA and the Constitution of the USA.This will be very difficult because it is the Liberal Media ,the Communists,the money and power of Soros,the Gay Agenda and the Abortion Agenda that are the real enemy–obama is just a tool of the EVIL.The battle will be Great and can only be done with the help of God.The real enemy is The EVIL.But,if we try,maybe God will Bless America again.The battle is just beginning.
One of the best (and most predictable) things about this site–you can always find plenty of folks who will discredit the whole birther movement with racism and by advocating the solving of problems through murder.
I agree, James, murder does not solve the problem, only acerbates it. Of course that does not make Obama innocent nor does it justify his supporters, The Christian way is to withdraw support. While not to probably, it is always possible that Barak Hussein Obama will see the error of his ways and make ammends.
"Of course that does not make Obama innocent "
Nor guilty, of course.
"nor does it justify his supporters,"
You mean that majority that voted for him?
You are really confused aren't you jim? Watch the lefty news and then tell us that it is unfair to rally against those who seek to violate our rights, those of freely associating and speaking or defending it when the government itself violates it. You are a real wizzard of wit just like Obama. The problem is you are so transparent that your motives bely your every twisted remark well in advance. You are an educational tool for the undecided to watch. It is a childs first lesson, how to avoid a troublemaker. It just takes them a little time to realize that these people indeed grow up and look for jobs where they can be the bully they were denied as playground punks. The all seek government employ, union power, foreign subsidy or a podium or they just simply closet their sociopathic tendencies until they can safely exploit a victim of their choosing.
Why do you fear the light of truth Jim? A courtroom is for justice not perverted manipulation of laws and secreting of eveidence.
"tell us that it is unfair to rally"
I've never said any such thing, of course. But a "rally" that advocates murder is more comparable to a lynch mob than to anything resembling "justice."
And by the way, I actually I fear many things, such as idiots who drive while talking on the phone, far more than I do anything related to paranoid birther conspiracies.
That judge should be thrown off the bench or shot. I am really pissed that someone does not prosecute Obama and all those behind him. Is America a bunch of wimps now? It is time the people do something about this. Kepp your guns please. I am sure War is coming and the white house will probably be the first to go. We must not let Obama win! We must get rid of Obama! Why is he still in the Whitehouse?????? Has everyone gone Brain dead? We must fight back as American's anyway we can! I am so pissed Obama could drop dead and I would jump for joy. I truly hope he dies. Maybe his plane will crash!
Thanks, Suzy, for taking all of nine minutes to illustrate my point.
Pr 24:19 ¶ Fret not thyself because of evil men, neither be thou envious at the wicked;
Ps 37:7 ¶ Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Study this whole Psalm. This is far more effective than violence for we accumulate the wicked before we fall into trouble through their wickedness. When we withdraw our foot from the wicked way and others follow suit then the evil dries up and blows away. We do not have to lift a finger but when we confront evil with evil, evil is retained. This comes down to personal decisions and is not a question of government law which cannot promote peace or provide freedom. The best it can do is provide an environment where these things can flourish.
First Section of Two because my comment is long and I have to break it up to send it: last year while working at Emeril's Delmonico in New Orleans I called in on Jeff Crouere's radio show Ringside Politics – AM 990 – and opined regarding the imposter, Barry or Barack Hussein Obama's, ineligability for the office of the President and the next day recieved a visit from the United States Secret Service at work! Tru-Dat. Agent Kirk was one of their names I only remember because I'm a big fan of the original Star Trek series. Funny thing is – just by coincidence – the big headline in the Times Picayune the day after I called the radio show and "took the gloves off" as they say on the show's commercials was something like "Obama coming to New Orleans or something to that effect with a big, big picture of him smiling. I guess they were just checking out that I wasn't a threat. Lieutenant Colonel Lakin is a great American hero. His name should be written in our history books one day along side the names of men like President George Washington.
Your point is understood. Short posts keep topics singular in nature as you now know why based on ole jim ,the pick on detail punk, has shown you. It is LTC Lakin V Obama period. Does LTC Lakin have the right to demand the constitution be upheld as his sworn oath states he does?
Second Section of my comment: Ironic – isn't it – that our first great President should have been named George Washington and our last legitimate President should have the same name George Washington Bush! When honor is restored to the office of the Presidency of the United States of America and a legitimate President is legally elected once again the unconstitutional error in our history of electing a foriegn national who illegitimately and illegally ran for office shall be righted and like sin in our individual lives from which we repent shall be covered over but with lasting consequences.
Actually it would be closer to "ironic" if it were closer to true. Besides the whole legitimacy farce, there's the fact that the the "W" stands for "Walker" (as in the guy who walked out on his National Guard service), not "Washington."
Last Section: The entire illegitimate administration of Barry Obama (as his mother called him – who knows what his real, legal name is????) shall have to one day be abrogated for every single action taken by this administration is illegal for they were conducted while in the commision of a crime. The crime of false representation and fraud. Interestingly enough the anti-constitutional succession of (not the Southern Confederacy) but the state of West Virginia from Virginia – with Abraham Lincoln's blessing upon it! – should make for good comparative exploration of the travesty of constitutional justice and implications for our country's future when we once again have a legitimate Commander in Chief. thank you L.C. Lakin and may God richly bless you and yours and may God bless America. Chris Farrell unbontir@hotmail.com
His real legal name is Barack Obama because he never legally changed it..
Lt.Col. Lind if you fail to allow Col. Lakin "Discovery 'in the forthcomming trial,you Col. ,are a disgrace to the United States Army.. That is, unless the Army is supporting you in this"kangaroo" trial that appears to be shaping up!
Being allowed Discovery, is the onlly means of defence this man has! Please ,do not let this country become a third world disaster.
Consider this,is the preservation of the constitution of any value to you or do you place any value on your oath of office?Do you find embarrassing a questionable president more important?
It's your call!
It's a sad day in America when an officer in the armed forces can't get a fair trial because of a judge backing a communist MUSLIM president who is not even eligible to be president. Obummer hates God and America. He's (or should I say the taxpayers) spent millions to keep his records sealed. Actions speak louder than words!
"Actions speak louder than words!"
Thank God for that, considering most of the words offered in comments on this site.
Hurrah for you Ellen Humphrey. You are at least three times smarter than the other Ellen, Obama is
our President because the unions knew he would take care of them and because many naive young people have believed everything their far left college professors have told them. Our founding fathers are protrayed as morons and religous zealots. Only 26% of Americans can tell you why the Revolutionary war was fought. Most Americans don't know what is really happening in America. If you want the truth you must watch Fox News especially Hannity, Cavuto, and Glenn Beck. The other media are in bed with Obama and spin everything in his favor.
Glenn Beck, along with Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly, have all called birthers crazy.
Ellen you might bas well keep your inane opinions to your self because I WON"T bother to read them. Look around on this site and see that you as an Obama lover are essentially
ALONE. Goodbye for the last and FINAL time.
If you are afraid of the facts, then do not read the facts. But your fear does not change the facts. And the facts are that Obama was born in Hawaii and has proven it with the official birth certificate and the repeated confirmations of the officials and the governor of Hawaii.
This is a travesty and just stomps on our Constitution. Judge Lind is wrong and the whole thing smells of dirty Chicago politics and worse!
Somebody ought to try and convict the judge. She is worse than an embarassment to her profession… she's a walking, breathing INSULT to judges everywhere!
U.S. Congressman, abolitionist, "Father of the 14th Amendment" John Bingham, confirms understanding & construction Framers used re birthright & jurisdiction
House of Representatives March 9 1866:
"I find no fault with the introductory clause which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that EVERY HUMAN BEING BORN within the jurisdiction of the United States OF PARENTS NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANY FOREIGN SOVEREIGNTY IS,in the language of your Constitution itself,A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN"
That was before the Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court ruling.
"Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan's attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization)
“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT),
37th Congress 2nd Session House of Representatives 1862
Who are natural born citizens?
All persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentlemen can find no exception to this statement touching natural born citizens except what is said in the Constitution in relation to Indians The reason that exception was made in the Constitution is apparent to everybody
THIS -via B.Obama.Jr's own website;"Fight the Smears" He sanctions for wide-dissemination the following from "Factcheck[dot]org":
"As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children."
The British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.
The Citizenship of Obama's father has no effect on Natural Born Citizen status. That is why Obama's election was confirmed by the US Congress UNANIMOUSLY because not one in 535 members thought either that Obama was born outside of the USA or that the citizenship of his father has any effect on Natural Born Citizen status.
Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan's attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization)
“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT),
NOBODY ELSE KNOWS WHERE HE WAS BORN YOU MUST BE PSYCHIC
The reason that the US Congress confirmed Obama's electon UNANIMOUSLY (all 535 members) is that not one single one of them believed that Obama was born outside of the USA.
Obama was born in Hawaii as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii (members of a Republican governor's administration) and by the Republican governor herself.
obama will never have to produce documents to prove his citizenship he has to much power behind him the congress will not push it neither will the senate it seems to me the judges are afraid of him lakin is being lead to the slaughter he is being denied a defence my prayers go with you [LTC LAKIN]
Then the course of action is to change congress, which we did to a great degree. Patience is a virtue we must hold to while changing the rest of congress and courts by application of law as well as the vote.
One correction to your comment: WE'VE paid millions to hide his records. He's spending our money to screw us. I guess that's a double-screw.
Obama makes Tiger W. look like a beginner!!!
The "millons" is another birther manufactured myth. There has never been a lawsuit against Obama just for his birth certificate or just for records. In the latest birther Supreme Court case, the Supreme Court did not even ask the federal government to comment (and so no money was spent at all).
Obama has released the official birth certificate of Hawaii and there was never a lawsuit against Obama just to get the birth certificate.
In our legal system, you have to fight all law cases against you, no matter how stupid they are. The money for the birther cases that Obama fought is virtually all from left over campaign funds, of which there are millions.
Ellen when Kagan was Solicitor General her job was to submit law suits to the Supreme
Court. At least nine times she did not bring any of SIX suits brought against Obama concerning his birth place. Appointing her to that court was PAYBACK. As far as Obama using left over campaign funds to pay legal exspences, that is absolutely against the law.
Raqngel is still in trouble because he did just that.. You really need to do some research.
Using campaign contributions for legal expenses is perfectly legal. That is what the money is given for, for expenses.
It takes only four justices on the Supreme Court to call a case, and so at least one conservative must have voted not to take the case, most likely a lot more.
One reason is that by far the majority of cases was before the election, trying to stop the election. Then there were cases before the inauguration trying to stop the inauguration or stop the Congress from confirming his election (which it did, unanimously). All these Obama fought. In our system, you have to fight every case against you, no matter how stupid.
I received a mailing from one of my sources detailing and explaining fraud on the court where the judge ignores the law and relies on his own opinion or has a vested interest in his own decision. A number of references to court cases stated that such decisions had no force or merit. It pointed to a number of descripencies these post deal with here and was quite interesting. It is too long to post here but I would think a little research on fraud on the Court might be worth some time. There is little question that this is not taking place on a regular and extended basis. I believe that is happening with LTC Lakin.
We all know by this time that Barak Hussein Obama was "officially" born in Hawaii. The problem is that we do not know what the actual facts are. Indications are that Obama believes he is a citizen of the UN rather than the U. S. which, at the least, would make him a dual citizen. Since all his support seems to be coming from those who trust in a lie that supppport is hardly credible. Maybe the officials have seen the real birth certificate but it is not a public document at this time.
The officials, members of a Republican governor's administration, have seen the original documents in the file and confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii. They have issued the official birth certificate and confirmed the facts on it. That is all that they can do since they no longer send out the original birth certificate to anyone.
Neither dual citizenship nor the citizenship of the father has any effect on Natural Born Citizen status, which mainly comes from the place of birth.
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’st attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
Patriots how can we be so incessed by the injustice being handed down by this judge as she is only following the protocol of our liberal "justice" system. Our constitution has become irrelevant our rights nill! Unless we rebel against the gangsters we call government the injustices will prevail. Extortion we call federal Income tax intended, as long as we pay, to protect us from our own government. Conviction of a soldier for daring to ask for the validity of a president who is asking for him to kill for the cause we call freedom? It is insanity! The whole idea of a government for/by the people is so far from reality its pathetic. I for one was not born to be a subject and until scores more Americans realize that we are already nothing more than that and continue to comply, IT WILL NOT CHANGE!
Lakin is not being convicted for "daring to ask." He will be convicted for disobeying the perfectly legal order "go to Afghanistan' given to him by a superior officer, a full colonel or general, and not by Obama. The Afghanistan War is a legal war, approved by Congress during the Bush Administration, and its legality remains the same regardless of who is the president.
We would not be in ANY war without the direct approval/order of the POTUS which,if he is not legally qualified to serve makes the order invalid and in my opinion unenforceable. If there is no problem with our presidents documentation then why seal all records from view/scrutiny by those who he is supposed to be serving/protecting? Produce evidence and all this goes away..very simple!
Nice thought, but ith the lunative fringe–left or right, radical Christian or radical Muslim, "birther" or "truther"– no evidence is enough and nothing "goes away." Paranoid fantasy just builds upon paranoid fantasy.
The only "fantasies" being perpetrated are coming from the "sky is falling" liberal left. If all those crackpots want a government controlled/managed society please LEAVE AMERICA go to your "perfect" place and transform some other society I will take my chances in a free market society and hope that 2011 is the beginning of the end/reversal of the liberal attitudes that have shaped law/policy and put the greatest nation on earth in the toilet! Further, one of my favorite quotes is "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean "they" are not out to get you"… unknown.
"coming from the 'sky is falling' liberal left"
That's funny, especially on this site where most of those commenting seem convinced that Obama is bringing the end of the world.
I am thankful for the BHO "ascension" it has engaged a lot of folks who have just been sitting back and taking it up the backside for… well, all the decades of my life and before! I just hope there is a tax revolt the likes of the American Revolution! These policy makers are nothing more than mafia gangsters forcing the American people to "pay" in the form of dollars for their "freedoms". You do everything per their instructions/regulations and you want to work ,you pay, you want to own property,you pay, you want to drive, you pay, you want to eat , you pay, you want to vacation, you pay, you want to communicate, you pay, you want to be entertained, you pay, you want a luxury item, you pay, you want healthcare, you pay, you die, yes, even then you pay! So tell me what freedoms do I enjoy? I for one have decided I am through paying@ least in prison I get three squares a day and recreation time! To quote Anthony Hopkins character in the movie "Legends Of The Fall", "Screw the government!" …I am no man's subject!
"I for one have decided I am through paying@ least in prison I get three squares a day and recreation time!"
I doubt that anyone believes you–true martyrs are willing to use their names.
Best quote of the year, author unknown:
"If you want to keep our nations secrets 'SECRET"—–store them where President Obama stores his college transcripts and birth certificate"
This would be funny if it wasn't so true.
Obama has shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed by the officials in Hawaii and the Republican governor of Hawaii.
NO president has ever shown his college transcript.
HERE GOES THE DUMB ASS AGAIN THE OFFICIAL B.C. HAS A HOSPITAL A DOCTORS NAME THE HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATORS NAME A FOOT PRINT AND MORE. DO YOU SEE ANY OF THOSE ON THAT FAKE PIECE OF PAPER?
No, it doesn't. The Certification of Live Birth is a short-form birth certificate. In fact most US States are now issuing only short-form birth certificates.
The Wall Street Journal said;
“The birthers have also misrepresented the law in the claims they have made about Obama’s birth certificate. In truth, Obama has proved that he is a native of Hawaii, and this proof would hold up in any legal or administrative proceeding.
In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues….
Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.”
I am amazed at how few liberals are posting comments. Just a few months ago most of the comments posted were from liberals and socialists. Now poor ELLEN seems to be almost the only Obama lover in a forest of Obama haters. Most people do eventually awaken or get their head out of the sand, but the sudden change is almost unbelievable I'm pleased to say
"I am amazed at how few liberals are posting comments."
Hey, I'm trying to keep up.
But it is true that I comment on less of the "birther" stuff, since everyone here pretty much has all their lines memorized it seems a bit silly to keep rehashing the same old stuff.
Post to me again in 3 months or so—-it takes longer for some people to figure out that Obama has us on the road to socialism. I don't know about you but I have no desire to be a serf. I do care where he was born but I am more upset by his total ineptness.
Neither loving nor hating changes the facts. The facts are that Obama was born in Hawaii.
There is a rally for Lakin in Arizona tomorrow-12/6 in front of McCanin, Kyle's offices. You can help by phoning the aides and telling them they should support Lakin You would have to call the Arizona offices.
Ask McCain whether he supports Lakin, and you are likely to get a big NO.
This is so wrong in every aspect. What is wrong with our judicial system, has everyone become
deaf and blind to the truth. When a person like LTC Lakin stands up for a Constitutional Right and is refused that right, something very evil, dark and ugly is going on in this great country. A Muslim has more rights in this country for doing nothing but killing than an honorable person like LTC Lakin.
I wish the entire Military would stand with him and back up what he is trying to protect.
LTC Lakin, I will pray for you, you are a brave man to stand up against all the odds of corruption.
NO one has a right to introduce irrelevant evidence in a trial. Obama's eligibility has already been proven, and confirmed by the US Congress UNANIMOUSLY, but this fact still has nothing to do with the Lakin trial, and that is why the judge ruled that it is irrelevant. The order "go to Afghanistan" is a perfectly legal order, given to Lakin by a full colonel or a general–not by Obama. "Go to Afgahnistan" is a legal order because Afghanistan is a legal war, approved by congress, but the order could also have been "Mop the floor'–which also would have been legal. Obama's eligibility has nothing to do with either of them.
Patricia Obama and his iodotic Congress has lied to we the people so often that I doubt anybody knows the truth now. We've been lied to about the jobless numbers, Obamacare, the rate of inflation, our national debt, illegal imigrants and the efforts to stop them. the GM bankruptcy, etc.For an administration that was going to be "transparent", it is truly opaque. Obama is the only thing transparent. He has made it clear that he hates America and is trying his best to destroy it. I believe
Americans are starting to catch on and they'd best because soon it will be too late.
These are all reasons for voting against Obama in the 2010 election, and I would fight to the death for your right to do so. I may even vote against him myself. But these reasons do not mean that Obama was born in Kenya or that there is anything wrong with his Hawaii birth certificate, which he has shown (the official short-form birth certificate, the only one that Hawaii has sent out since 2001) and the facts on which the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed.
Well, it's going to be interesting knowing he WILL be convicted for disobeying orders from his immediately supervisors. He simply should have obeyed the orders given to him by his immediately chain of command. It's that simply.
Senator McCain of AZ and all the Supreme Court judges are plain cowards. They are ALL afraid of the horrendous ramification of the truth of Obama's birth place coming out in the open. Pathetic for the U.S. What does the Supreme Court got to lose by demanding that Obama provide his authentic long form birth certificate to the citizens of the U.S. who want the truth to come out? Of course, the reputation of the U.S. is at stake. At the sacrifice of the truth, public authorities would rather not expose the President of the U.S to the whole world .!!! Sad!!!!
Obama was born in HAWAII, and he has proven it with the official birth certificate and the repeated confirmations of the officials in Hawaii. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the long-form birth certificate. It only sends out the new official short-form birth certificate, which is the one that Obama published and was confirmed by the officials and the Republican governor of Hawaii.
Remember the recent "contrail" over the Pacific near California. It has been definitely identified as being caused by a missile fired from a Chinese nuclear submarine and Obama was told that. but is lying because the system that is supposed to detect submarines failed. And that syswtem has failed before. Go to "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GofjDDWX_M" for a video
There were NO aircraft in that area at that time. Oh well, what's one more LIE—-our safety, that's what.
Somebody please tell Ellen (no last name)
If true, what does this have to do with Obama's being born in Hawaii? He was born in Hawaii, and he has shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii and the officials in Hawaii (Republicans) have repeatedly confirmed the facts on it.
Yet another goofy Farrah conspiracy theory: http://www.smartplanet.com/technology/blog/thinki…
Items hidden in the Obamacare bill: A provision which make it possible for the government to confiscate your gold. Tanning salons must charge a 10% EXCISE TAX. Chain resturants must disclose the calories in each menu item. Businesses with 51 or more employees must furnish a room where nursing mothers can pump their milk for up to a year after birthing. Good news—-you can keep your doctor, but 46% of doctors say they will retire, so get ready to wait. 183 new committees and agencies were created. Doctors will be told what treatment protocol they must use, if they use a different method, even if successful they will be fined $200,000. If they do that again they will serve some prison time. Don't believe me—-look it up, it is the TRUTH, and that's something you'll never hear from Obama. Somebody please tell Ellen.
Obama has succeeded in bankrupting America. At his proposed rate of paying off the debt it is eatimated that it could be paid off in 389 years. Now by sticking to his oil drilling moritorium he will bankrupt MANY Americans. With the printing of money Bernannke has done and will continue to do you'll need a wheel barrow to go to the grocery. Obama's approval rating is in free fall mode. I predict that 6 to 8 months before the 2012 election he will rescind the oil drilling moritorium— BIG DEAL!
How many of you have had a $35,000 a plate dinner lately?? He will have over a billion dollars in his campaign fund and with rhe help of ACORN, unions, and the liberal media he just might get a 2nd term. If he does I will bid you welcome to the Socialized States of Meximerica. Get ready to become a serf. He MUST NOT get a 2nd term. WAKE UP AMERICA it is getting late. Or maybe you should put your money in Canadian bonds. That's what Bernannke has done.
In Hawaii, the short-form birth certificate is known as the Certification of Live Birth. It is the only birth certificate that Hawaii has issued since 2001. Thousands of people use it for passports and drivers licenses every year. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the long-form birth certificate, even to people who were born before 2001.
The Wall Street Journal said:
“The birthers have also misrepresented the law in the claims they have made about Obama’s birth certificate. In truth, Obama has proved that he is a native of Hawaii, and this proof would hold up in any legal or administrative proceeding.
In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues….
Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.”