This is what really bothers me…
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You are right about the politicians not being honest. But that’s only acknowledging the root of the problem concerning legislators, both state and federal. The question is; what are people going to do about this? We’ve heard all kinds of statements in addressing this as well as pleas to vote for the right people, and to educate the public, all of which have fallen on death ears. So we know that activism and pleading does not work, and that is a cold hard fact.
Let’s look at other scenarios and options. Consider for a moment that even if you could get honest people elected again, you would need a majority before you could actually start reversing the damage already done. Consider how hard it would be to get any honest politicians elected from the paragraph above. It’s like the red verses the blue states in that the majority of the population resides in urban Northern cities and areas and on the West Coast. This makes about 15 or so blue states having more power in Washington DC than all the app 35 red states combined. So even if you got a majority of the states working together on the Federal level, that does not mean they would have majority of legislatures representing them. Not only that those red states will provide several federal legislators that will side with the blue states keeping their majority substantial. This will only become worse, more one sided as more illegals are allowed to vote and the flood gates opened even wider for new immigrants. It’s a no win situation for the vested American citizens, especially those that have a long ancestry recorded in this country.
Since ya’ll claim to be the “EXPERTS” and know so much more than us dumb ignorant redneck, incest created Southerners that you fondly call us, you tell us; What are your plans on changing and reversing this situation? What’ya gonna do about it, HUH? Personally I don’t think any of you are gonna do anything about it except spout off and blow off hot air just like the liberals said you would do. And when it is all over, you’ll do whatever the Federal Law says you are to do, just like the good patriots you so proudly claim to be!
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Mike, I am hopeful that the Judge in Florida demands that Obama releases his records at Occidental and Harvard along with his passport that he used at that time to gain admittance. If that goes no where, I am hopeful that in January 2013, that the Electoral College delegates will not endorse him as having won the 2012 presidential election. If that fails, I believe that America will soon have a new legal system to have to deal with and that legal system is Sharia law.
Gabor, I honestly and whole heartedly agree with you in what you want and what you see as some of the future results. At the same time I think there is much more that needs to be addressed, ugh considered in order that a better conclusion and judgement can be had.
It should be obvious by now that all the actions we see taken against Obama has been futile, regardless of the merit behind the accusations. At the same time it should be obvious that many people are behind the efforts to keep Obama in power and the country going in the same downhill direction. Finally it should be obvious by now that there are MANY Republicans and so-called conservatives that are behind these efforts also, even those that appears and publicly speaks out against Obama. Because of these obvious things and more I believe most of the efforts we see from many politicians in power, especially at federal level is nothing more than a charade, keeping the people entertained and appeased just enough that nothing will ever become of all the accusations no matter how justified they are. It’s just a show to keep the people from becoming too mad to do anything else, while deflecting attention from other important areas that society should be addressing.
As for the judge; what difference is he gonna make regardless to what he rules? Eventually any case can make it to the Supreme Court that is pushed long enough and backed with enough money. You know what will happen there. Or congress or the president could simply by-pass any court ruling and make any law they so desire, eventually getting it to pass muster before the courts and ram-rodding it down the throats of the public. The judge is only another dead end street in the totality of things.
As for sharia law, consider this: Of course you are right that Obama and many others are pushing to allow for this inclusion of Islam, Muslims and their practice of sharia law in the uS. These same people are also pushing for as much immigration as possible from any and all areas as possible in order to dilute and void out any vested and true conservative American’s voice in this country. What is not so much understood is that it is simply not a matter of them wanting illegals or legal immigrants or Muslims and their sharia law in this country, but for these politicians and men of power it is ONLY a means to an end. Pit all this influx of people opposing the true conservative American, them being Christian or Catholic American or the blue collar American, and what do you get? Sure you get conflict, confusion and the things we see and talk about every day, but the powers that be get much more than that.
It’s NOT that these powers that be wants sharia law. As I said it is only a means to an end. They do want the conflicts and friction between people in order to consolidate and gain even more money and power. They do this at our expense making us poorer and diluting our power and strength as it relates to government, and we are witnessing the results of this by the elections where liberals now have dominance over how the whole will be run and to the point they can ignore any past law or anything relating to our former Constitutional Government. Sadly this will only get worse and not better. When these people of power consolidate enough of their power and they feel safe enough, they will simply kick out and suppress the Muslims sharia law and any other group of people as they deem fit.
Another way to look at this is the powers that be are using one religion to destroy another religion or many other religions, and these powers that be are using the Federal Government to accomplish these goals.
This brings us back to my statements and questions from my 1st post; what are you gonna do about it? Sadly there is nothing you can do about if you try and follow Constitutional law playing in the system. The reasons are many and I have wrote entire articles on why this is so. I will try and post such an article below this post.
The only thing that you can do about this is to remove yourself from it and help others do the same thing, because there is absolutely no reasoning with these people. (Part of my article deals with this very thing.)
I could write for hours on this but with my other article, that should be than enough to give you a few questions to ponder.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Michael, great respond, question, how does one go about removing oneself from it, when one has children and grandchildren? There is no removing oneself from it, I agree with all that you wrote, expect the end as I stated above.
Obama and the “Chicago Machine,” lead by Obama’s Propaganda Minister, David Axelrod, who was also a Red Diaper baby, divided the country by turning the black’s against the whites, the poor against the rich, the citizen’s against the non citizen’s the homosexuals against the straights and he won, he won by dividing the country.
As American’s we need to do whatever we can that is legal to take our country back. We have to demand that Congress not affirm his eligibility to hold office until he releases access to the supposed birth-certificate hidden in the vaults of the Hawaii Department of Health. We need to demand that Congress order Obama’s Occidental, Harvard and passport records released and put onto public display.
If Obama is unwilling to do so, with all of the doubt swirling around him, Congress needs to remove him from office until he provides all of the above documents. I know that eventually the truth about Obama will all come out, however, it needs to come out now, if there is any chance left to save America.
Gabor,
I know and understand about the children. However the importance of our being a free people is dependent upon doing the right things. It boils down to what you actually want; A country that is run by Marxists, and you knowing that you didn’t have to sacrifice any blood or hardships in order that your children and progeny may live peacefully under Marxist rule. Or you can contend for the animated contest of real liberty and freedom, where your heirs can grow and live according their free will and self-determination, being free men in order to live as they wish. But of course this animated contest of freedom comes at a high price, quiet opposite that of Marxism. Your heirs must work for everything and they must be willing to fight and die for their Sovereignty, free will and self-determination to lead their own lives. Fore this is one of the most jealously sought after prizes that mankind has, the right to be himself and worship and do as he pleases as long as he does not directly harm or offend another. The reason it is so sought after is because it is the most profitable for those who can corrupt such a system and subdue such a people. For to accomplish this is to also conquer a large part of the human spirit and mind, gaining control over vast store houses of knowledge, talent, wealth and human resources that would be the result of achievement from a free and Sovereign society.
By finishing off the uS and transforming it into a full Globalistic state will give the powers that be more than enough power to control the rest of the world. I have also seen references to this by them in my past studies. If you or anyone thinks they are gonna turn the uS around and right any wrongs done by Obama or anyone else, you very sadly mistaken.
My reference to your options in my other post was simply this. You have only two choices. 1- Either submit to the Marxist and you and your heirs will become their slaves. Or 2- Separate from them by helping the red states secede for the Federal Government. Of course this too will be an uphill battle, but it is the only other chance and choice you have. Unless you have a plan that is actually more feasible and reasonable?
As for the historical connection. I keep on referencing Lincoln and his war against the South. The victors have completely rewrote the history to suit their needs and it has done them well. (To the victor goes the writ of history.) and (To the victor goes the spoils of war.) But in my sides own behalf I’ll say this, we knew this would happen and was going to happen. Southern historians and politicians of that era wrote much about these things that concerns us today. They predicted the outcome with the wrong side side winning, and they were 100% right! (I’ve had my own grand dad tell me stories related to this more than 50 years ago.)
So you study long and hard. ALL of you study long and hard. Think about what I have said and ask yourself; Is there another way to right the wrongs done by the government of this country? Is there a way to stem the tide of liberalism and Marxism from fully consuming everyone in this country, making slaves of the government and to society out of all people? Can you educate the non-believer and make them see the truth, the errors of their ways? Are you going to see justice done to Obama and the politicians who have cheated Americans and Southerners out of their wealth and now their lands? (You don’t really own your property any more, the government does.)
You don’t have real money any more, as that is gold and silver. You only have “Promissory Notes” which is only a promise to pay by your sweat and blood, and it is not real money, but only your promise to break your back in meeting your obligations to pay a false credit.) So ya’ll tell me; what exactly are you gonna do to gain back the uS government and reverse the tide towards Marxism that is being voted into place by a majority of voters? Afterall it is now you who appears to be the sore losers since you are the minority trying to change the rules and laws of the majority. The only legal and righteous way to change these rules is to secede…. That was the actual intent of it 150 years ago, and for the same reasons.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
The article I was referring to:
Collectivism by Force, The Mindset of Liberals in Relation to the Federal Government:
Most all people miss the deeper understanding of the liberal mindset, such as that of the past and present Yankees. Oh, I understand the liberal mindset perfectly and I know all the reasons they deny the truth that others so obviously see. But for me to tell you those reasons, or anyone, you have to believe and or accept some other concepts regarding man.
One of those concepts is evil and sin. Of course full-fledged Marxists don’t believe in sin or evil as defined by Biblical standards. To not accept this difference automatically puts one in contempt of most everything John Locke ever wrote, which includes the basis of the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution itself. This also includes many other philosophers that one would also be in opposition too, including Aristotle, Cato as well as Hume. It also puts one in contempt of Western Civilization itself!
Another concept is the duality of man. And finally one has to accept the fallibility of man. These are the main differences distinguishing liberals from anyone else. (The religion and philosophy of Islam does not count as it is so radically different. Western philosophy and ideology cannot be applied to it in any way, which is why Islam and Muslims cannot and will not mix well with most Americans.)
Man has a dual nature, and that nature can be accounted for by God or indirectly by the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God. Man can be classified into two distinct categories: Good and evil, right and wrong, givers and takers, moral and immoral, righteous and self-righteous, reasonable and unreasonable, heroes and cowards, unselfish and selfish, meek and arrogant, and most any other opposing concepts. Sin is the result of evil. Evil is the thoughts all humans carry within them that contradicts good. Simply stated, if it’s not good, then it’s evil. Sin is evil stressed or shown by the physical results. To deny good by actions, even by words is sin.
In man’s sub-conscience there is a will, a philosophy so-to-speak, that identifies him as a person, a distinct individual. We normally only see a small part of man’s will as many factors precludes and limits him from showing his true being, but each person does in fact show bits and pieces of his innermost self, and we witness this by his actions and comments as well as how he personally upholds himself.
No man can reason with evil, we can only try and reason with the sin or at least confront it and limit it. Man still retains his thoughts of evil and the thought of evil denies the truth. Fore if this was not true than you could reason with anyone and they would accept the facts they could not disprove, or at least acknowledge them as being valid. Humanists in general are a good example of people who cannot be reasoned with. Yet on certain topics they seem to be most reasonable. The reason for this is, if a humanist is open to reason on a certain topic, it merely means the topic was favorable to him from the beginning, which means it is more of a matter of degree of the evil or sin being discussed than it is the morality or right or wrong of the topic.
Liberals cannot see, understand, or much less accept the facts of most conservative viewpoints and concepts because it is contrary, somewhere, in their sub-conscience, concerning their philosophy and acceptance of life. It matters NOT to the amount of facts presented or the logic involved, if a person wants and believes in something deeply enough, he will NOT change his opinion. In holding such a dogmatic view, what I would call a non-factual, non-basis dogmatic view of life, that person has to have deeper underlying motives that are based upon evil. Greed, selfishness, arrogance, power, money, self-righteousness, lust, you name it. If it’s a wrong, immoral or bad concept, its’ basis lies in evil and we see it as the denial of the truth.
So the question becomes: How can a person change these concepts in another in order they may see the truth and logically submit to it? You can’t, and no amount of arguing is going to change this. It’s simply because of the nature of that person and what lies within them.
I am referring to my critics and opponents as well as anyone who supports the Federal Government over the Sovereignty of States. They can’t see themselves in the article above, but yet there they are supporting the collective over the individual rights. Self-Determination becomes a collective principle. It’s easier to think of these people as “takers” and “self-righteous”, as they claim with their self-righteousness the collective rights to take at will by a common vote, anyone who produces anything. They claim the Federal Government as the highest authority because as a collective the Federal Government can take and redistribute your wealth at will by a simple vote. And this is the same thing Lincoln done in 1861 in order that the Federal Government survive its’ crisis. They looted the wealth of another country by force in order to keep their government afloat. Only difference was, Lincoln done this without any vote.
Today the results of this are clear. There is no doubt that Lincoln changed the fundamental basis of interpreting the US Constitution and what relationship the states played in relation to the Federal Government. He set the precedents for a collective society to emerge which eventually would completely negate all aspects of the US Constitution and all principles that pertained to the original Republic, replacing it with a Democracy that would allow the takers to vote themselves all the largess of the government, and to the point of bankruptcy.
Now you attack me, the Missouri 10th and every other pro Sovereignty based organization in order that you can keep on taking what is not yours. You want it all, even if it means genocide against all those that oppose you. Nor do I mean oppose you by force but rather opposing you by simply wanting separate from you peacefully while taking what is duly ours. It never registers with you that you can survive just as well with half the land area that we both now have. That is because you are the takers wanting it all for yourselves just as you took from us app 150 years ago. It is easy to see where you fit into place from my reference concerning man’s dual nature, from the top of the article. You and your kind are takers, evil, wrong, immoral, self-righteous, unreasonable, cowards, selfish, arrogant and any other negative concept that one can add. Oddly even most liberals don’t see the connection that they are following the humanistic teachings of Marxism. But would they care, regardless to it being Marxist? NOPE, because they “want” too badly to care about what it is called! You cannot be reasoned with, so we MUST separate, as our faith, lives, heritage and culture depends upon it.
Michael—Deo Vindicabamur
Thanks for all of your valued comments! Hopefully God will look after us and will soon remove this evil force, that lives in Washington.
All those in the U.S. House and Senate are a bunch of wimps. cowards, traitors and liars — guilty of treason. If and when Obama is brought to justice for his crimes against America all these politicians should go down with him. He and they are all guilty of treason. What did they do to people guilty of treason in the 1700s?
The same thing that they do now, execution, that’s what!
@christian
Do you really think that there is any chance that Obama will be impeached or tried on charges of anything? It’s absolutely NOT possible when all of congress is working with Obama, even when they pretend NOT to be. Boehner and McCain are good examples of this. And then to top that off, ALL the Federal Courts are controlled by Obama also. You should know that since the Federal Courts are part of the Federal Government, they are NOT designed to stand in opposition to the Federal Government, but rather to enhance it. Think of it this way, the SCOTUS and its’ ruling on ObamaCare was not against the people, but rather it enhanced the Federal Government in it helping the people it owned. It is not the purpose of the SCOTUS to help people. Its’ purpose is to enhance the laws as they apply to people and the Federal Government. It’s all a matter of the way one looks at it. The Federals can see this and claim they following the US Constitution with a straight face.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Mike, you are right, all of congress and the courts are complicit with the federal government. I mean, they all take an oath of office to uphold the U.S. Constitution and protect this country from foreign and domestic enemies. But, they don’t live up to it any more. It’s a shame.
RIGHT AGAIN!!! THE SENATORS, ETC. ARE ALL BEING “PAID” (OR THREATENED TO KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT) BECAUSE THEY HAVE SECRETS THAT CAN “UNSEAT” THEM, TOO. THIS GOVERNEMENT IS NOTHING BUT A “COLLAGE” OF CROOKS AGAINST AMERICA WHILE KISSING THE TERRORIST’S A$S BY STANDING BY HIM AND LETTING HIM DESTROY AMERICA AND NOT FILING CHARGES AGAINST HIM FOR POSITIVE PROOF OF ELIGIBILITY. THAT IS CALLED AIDING AND ABETTING CRIMES AGAINST AMERICA WHICH IS TREASON AND THEY SHOULD ALL BE ARRESTED AND SENT TO GITMO WITH HIM, ASAP. THE TERRORIST WOULD BE CHARGED WITH “TERRORISM” AGAINST AMERICA, NOT TREASON BECAUSE HE IS ILLEGAL AND NOT A CITIZEN OF AMERICA. CRIMINAL ACTS (AND ANY TERROR) AGAINST AMERICA AND ITS CITIZENS IS TERRORISM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT IS CALLED TERRORISM OR TREASON.
(ONE OF THE SENATORS IN ILLINOIS TRYING TO GET JESSE JACKSON, JR’S SEAT WAS ARRESTED TRYING TO BOARD A PLANE WITH A LOADED GUN. HE WOULD NEVER CONVINCE ME THAT IT WAS “A MISTAKE” AND DIDN’T KNOW IT WAS THERE. MAYBE HE NEEDS SOME TREATMENT IN THE SAME INSTITUTION THAT JESSE JACKSON, JR. WAS A PATIENT. IF HE IS SO FORGETFUL THAT HE FORGETS A “LOADED GUN” IS IN HIS POSSESSION SOUNDS LIKE A SERIOUS PROBLEM TO ME. SOUNDS LIKE A CRIMNAL OR MENTAL PROBLEM AND EITHER NEEDS SERIOUS ATTENTION.) POLITICIANS THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW.
CONGRESS NEEDS TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THIS THUG IN THE WHITE HOUSE INSTEAD OF “CHILDISHLY PLAYING BULLY ON THE PLAYGROUND”. THEY HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THIS THUG IN HIS TRACKS AND SEND HIM TO GITMO, BUT NOT THE “GUTS OR SPINE”. THESE GUTLESS, SPINELESS , LYING CROOKS WHO ARE EARNING $MILLIONS AREN’T DOING THEIR JOBS BY PROTECTING AND “LOOKING OUT” FOR AMERICANS AS THEY WERE “HIRED” (VOTED IN) TO DO. DO THE JOB, GET OUT GRACEFULLY OR GET THROWN OUT. THUGS AND CROOKS STICK TOGETHER AND ARE CALLED CARTELS AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE RULING AMERICA. CONGRESS NEEDS TO PROVE OR DISPROVE THE DICTATOR RULING AMERICA’S ELIGIBILITY, ASAP. COWARDS OR HEROES? GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Mystic 11, truer words have never been written!
obama & congress are guilty of treason, and must be dealt with by U.S. law