A retired U.S. Air Force lieutenant general who commanded forces armed with nuclear weapons says the disclosure of Barack Obama’s documentation proving his eligibility to be commander in chief is critical not just to the defense of an officer challenging the president’s status, but to the preservation of the nation itself.
The vehement statements came in an affidavit from retired Lt. Gen. Thomas G. McInerney, a Fox News military analyst, that was disclosed today by an organization generating support for Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin.
Lakin had invited his own court-martial because he is unable to follow orders under the chain of command with Obama at its head unless the president’s eligibility is documented.
A hearing is scheduled in Lakin’s court-martial case Thursday at which a ruling is expected on defense requests for the very evidence that McInerney is citing.
The general, who retired in 1994 after serving as vice commander in chief of USAF forces in Europe, commander of the 3rd Tactical Fighter Wing and assistant vice chief of staff of the U.S. Air Force, among other positions, said the chain of command issue is critical, since officers are obligated both to follow orders and to disobey illegal orders.
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General McInerney,
Sir, Where have you been so long? America needs you now more than ever before Sir. The gates of hell have opened up in our White House and the devil himself is now calling the shots there in our oval office. Like you Sir, I too have taken an oath to protect our people, U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, our borders and our Nation. Now it,s our job as Veterans and Warriors of America to stand up to this evil devil and his corrupt leftist commies that support him in destroying our Nation.
Sir, Not only will I but, all patriot Veterans and Warriors will follow you to the gates of hell and defend our Country and people from the devil himself! Lt. Col. Lakin has already stood his ground Sir, and he needs our honor and dignity in supporting not only him but, America itself. Please don,t let us down, we are waiting on your orders Sir.
God bless you Sir and all our brave Warriors, men and women of America.
Well said Native Veteran. I too am a Native Veteran and served my country in Viet Nam, and I was a police officer for 31 years. I took that oath twice my self. My son served three tours in Iraq and was seriously wounded as a result of the last one. As old as I am, (60) I am ready to do what ever it takes to remove this cancer and his allies from our lives. We need decorated men of character to demand the proof of eligibility, because I don't think he can produce it! McCain did. Thanks to both of you for your service, and God will see us through this!
These two Generals have my support 100%. I served in the United States Marine Corps during the Viet Nam War, and was proud to defend my country because I knew that the President of the United States was a legal citizen and the orders he gave to us were obeyed because they came from a President who was quallified to order them. This man, if you want to call a person a man knowing that he has no cahoons, has not proven to the world that he is qualified to be giving orders to our military personal, and until he does, Lt Col Lakin has every right to refuse to put himself in harms way.
We`ll see just how Honorable the US Military really is.
As of lately,I think not.
Anyone that has given thought to joining the US Military should monitor this case before they sign any papers.If Barry fails to prove he`s an American Citizen,and Lakin goes to prison…your little Military as will be no more than Government Issue,aka (GI)…just like a roll of toilet paper,or,a grease rag.Obama can`t even pronounce "Corpsman" correctly.
Obama will not send any documents to the court. He will not be asked for them. The reason is that they are irrelevant to the case. Lakin is accused of disobeying a legal order from a superior. All that has to be proven is that the officer who gave the order was Lakin's superior and that the war in Afghanistan is a legal war. Obama's citizenship could not make it an illegal war because it was authorized by Congress under the Bush administration.
Here is the court's ruling. As expected, the military judge ruled that the issue of Obama's eligibility is IRRELEVANT.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag…
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/02/birther.c…
Ellen! / James McPherson!
You may know something about media law but you are liking in the area of law pertaining to this case.The facts of this case as usual you are disputing with your own opinions & biases as usual. The court must allow the right of discovery in this case for it is the basis of LTC Lakins case. I suggest in the future that you should comment on actual law instead of just giving your opinion which is biased.
Live free or die
Maj.Gen. Jerry Curry : Obama's Eligibility Issue Moving Toward Critical Mass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TmTqvIhLig
In addition to the Military needing to see proof that Barry Soetoro aka Huessin Obama, is a legal citizen of the United States, Govenor Jan Brewer of Arizona is also pushing for him to show proof of the same, since he is trying to ruin the state of Arizona by allowing the illegals to occupy it, and wanting the UN to back him on this unconstitutional act of treason. Everywhere you turn, this guy is doing moe and more to prove that he isn't a citizen and is not qualified to be setting in the White House.
BOB: HOPE YOU COME BACK TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION …..WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT GOV. JAN BREWER WAS GOING TO CHALLENGE OBANA ON HIS ELIGIBILITY ?
I WAS HOPING SHE WOULD BE ADVISED BY HER ATTNY'S THAT ALL THEY NEED DO IS GO TO THE CIRCUIT COURT IN WAS D.C. AND FILE A 'QUO WARRANTO'…..SHE (HAS) "STANDING" THAT THE JUDGES KEPT REFUSING ON ALL THE OTHER CASES….SHE CAN TEAR HIM A NEW ASSHOLE…..GO GIRL…!!!
Big Jer,
I don't remember exactly when, but I heard it on one of the Fox News programs. They also said that if she were able to pull it off, she has bigger cahoons than all the men in Congres and should run for President in 2012. They said that she has the stamina to do it.
Lt. Col. Lakin is a hero in my book. Hopefully the General and other general officers can offer to testify for the Lt. Col. If the military does not allow the request for evidence, just as Justice Roberts has stopped the Supreme Court from taking the case of B. Hussein Obama's citizenship and especially "Natural Born Citizenship".
If the military court refuses, then when the Republicans take over the congress next year the investigations all the up the chain of command have to start. If the military becomes more corrupted than it is by the socialists in residence of the white house and congress then I would agree that young people should question if their sense duty is served by this military.
I am a conservative and disgusted.
Pray for the USA.
Time and again we have heard and seen that Obama doesn't have a clue about anything that has to do with administration of the governement or command of the military. I pray the Supreme Court (which is where I think LtCol Lakin's search for Obama's birth documents will wind up) has the fortitude to demand the president turn over a legitimate certified long form birth certificate to substantiate his qualification to serve as our president. If he refuses than, as far as I'm concerned, he convicts and disqualifies himself for the presidency. All legislation he has illegaly signed into law is rescinded and he must be impeached and thrown out on his ear. If the court martial board does not allow, rather demand, these documents be turned over by the president, then shame on them for taking away Lakin's due process under the law and expectation of a fair trial. thank you General McInerney for so forcefully stating your opinion on this matter. Active duty, retired and veteran members of the military are watching this case very closely to see if justice will win the day or if LtCol Lakin will wind up on the slaughter house floor as a political scapegoat for Barrack Hussein Obama.
Dream on. Obama's election was confirmed unanimously by the US Congress. The chance that they would even investigate is nil. This is particularly true because Obama's birth certificate is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii and most recently by the governor of Hawaii.
Ellen,
This i hope is the last time i have to respond to this incompetent statement which you insist on repeating as if it were so. A Certification of Live Birth is in fact computer generated & not The Official Certificate of Live Birth. Please Fact Check it! Further once Congress returns to the control of the Conservatives you can look forward to not only this issue being investigated but as well many in addition to it.
Answer: Of course it is a computer generated document. It is a modern document, not a photostat of the original. Hawaii has not sent out photostats of the original since 2001. The Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate, and it is used every year by thousands of people.
Moreover, Hawaii does not and did not in 1961 allow a birth document of any kind to indicate birth in Hawaii UNLESS there was proof of birth in Hawaii. Obama's birth certificate says on it that he was born in Honolulu, Oahu, Hawaii, and that fact has been confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii and most recently by the governor of Hawaii.
The Wall Street Journal dealt with the allegation that the Certification of Live Birth is not the official birth certificate in detail. It said:
"In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues.
”… If a court were somehow to take up the question of Obama’s eligibility, then, the birth certificate would almost certainly be sufficient to resolve the question in his favor. The opposing side would have to provide serious evidence calling into question the veracity of Hawaii’s official state records. Innuendo and hearsay would not be admissible.
"Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement."
LMAO! Ellen!
Your logic is about as intellegent as your Blaming Bush for all of Obama's problems.
We were not discussing Bush. We were discussing Obama's birth certificate. You claim that it is not official. I proved that it is.
Ellen!
You have proved absolutely nothing! My constant admoinishment of you for making erroneous beguile post & responses on this site is nothing more than a prescription for ad nauseam.
Once again you are just calling names, not discussing facts.
Here again is part of the quotation from the Wall Street Journal:
"The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues. '
Not only is it a legal birth certificate, but it is the only birth document that Hawaii has issued since 2001. And the officials in Hawaii and the governor of Hawaii have confirmed the facts on that document.
You sound like a fool just like the other 52 million fools that voted for the illegal, islam, muslim, alien, baby murderer. not an American citizen.
Certificate of Birth No.. 12018 from COAST PROVINCE GENERAL HOSPITAL, Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya follows: Child bearing name of BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA Sex: M: Full name of Mother: STANLEY ANN OBAMA, Maiden Surname: DUNHAM, Date of Birth: 11/29/1942. Full name of Father: BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, Date of Birth: 1936. on this 4th day of August, 1961 at 7:24 PM. Weight of Child at Birth: 7 pounds one ounce, Length: 18 inches, Width between shoulders: 6 inches. Residence of Mother; HONOLULU, HAWAII, UNITED STATES. Birth Place of MOTHER; WITCHITA, KANSAS, UNITED STATES. Birth Place of Father; Kanyaihiang Village, Nyanza. Occupation of Father: STUDENT. Occupation of Mother; STUDENT. Name of attending Doctor: JAMES G. W. ANG'AWA, Signature of attending Doctor:_________. Date:8/5/1961. Superintendent of Obstretrics: JOHN KWAME ODONGO, Signature: _____. Date: 8/7/1961, Copy of Right foot stamped in Bottom Left Corner.
You do realize you were responding to someone who agreed with you? Follow the arrows. On the other hand the fact that you keep reprinting details of a forgery doesn't really help your case even if you respond where you intended to.
But you do obviously have that who copy-and-paste thing mastered.
James,
Who are you to say whether Cobat Vet Korea 50 is right or wrong?
Your post & responses on this site are drapped in a bellicose manner.
I must compliment both you as well as Ellen the Bott for your acquired skill at copy & pasting.
Here is the WND article that proves that the "birth certificate from Kenya" is a forgery:
http://beartracks.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/1756/
"Who are you to say whether Cobat Vet Korea 50 is right or wrong?"
Just someone who knows the facts about the forgery–when even WorldNutsDaily has disproven the claim, it's time for CVK50 and you to give up on it.
Still, the question is weird, even for you. By that standard, who are you to say anyone is right or wrong?
James,
You know the facts? LMAO!
I am having constantly to correct you on issues!
Again, when even WorldNutsDaily has disproven the claim, it's time for CVK50 and you to give up on it.
James!
Incompetent one!
Never can you say that i conveyed verballly that the kenyan Certificate of live Birth was legitimate.
Get your facts straight!
Why are they afraid of President Obama? We need more men like Lt. Col. Lakin. The Col is right. He has to prove this eligibillty to be President.
If obummer really cared about Lt. Col. Lakin, he would produce his real birth certificate, but he doesn't care about anyone but himself. He has something to hide.
I would bet Obama wouldn't show his birth certificate to save one or even both of his kids lives.
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whats the matter? can't take the truth. all i said was true.
Sad when even the administrator of this site thinks you've gone too far, eh Bob?
JAMES,
I PERSONALLY PREFER BOB'S POST OVER YOURS!
YOUR POST ARE LIKING WHEN COMPARED TO HIS POST.
Please read it again, slowly, or have someone else explain it to you. Bob's post was deleted, so you can't know if you prefer it (unless you prefer the fact that it's gone). Also, (and God knows why I keep trying to help you), you might want to look up "liking" and "likeing" if you're going to keep using them.
James,
This may be your full time job & career but unlike you this is not my full time job or career! Why do you continue to play with words? Can it be that you have no serious comment to make therefore instead you choose to attack some one over a minor spelling error of which every one understands but you?You seriously can not think i was referring to a deleted post? Obviously you are mentally liking. It is clear to most of us that you are liking very much so in comprehensive skills.
"Obviously you are mentally liking."
I totally agree. I'm totally mentally liking the fact that you're so much the voice of the birthers here.
James,
So glad that you are acknowledgeing your own mental liking finally!
Ridiculous statement by you that i am the voice of the birther's on this site. That is almost as stupid as your comment that Russ Limbaugh was the voice of the Republican Party.
You might want to look up the definition of "liking." Or not–I'm enjoying your usage.
James,
Lame response! I am very complacent when it comes to spelling.
Lol! You know very well i intended to write lacking. As usual you love to play with words but never in fact but only fiction.
How would I know what you intended, when you've used the same wrong word at least a dozen times? Though you're right about one thing: I have noticed you're pretty complacent in terms of accuracy.
James,
Sorry! I forgot about your low reading & comprehension levels. As for accuracy i am sure most would agree with me that your post & responses consist of nothing more than spin & lies with little if any facts to substantiate them.
James i must admit though at times i feel badly of picking on you due to your effeminate personality.
Obama has already shown his real birth certificate. The Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, used every year by thousands of people.
ELLEN! LOL! STICK A SOCK IN IT! NO ONE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO YOUR CANNED RESPONSES! YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A BOTT, A PATHETIC ONE AT THAT!
Here are the facts:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag…
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/02/birther.c…
Ellen! It is obvious you are a bott! If not you would have read my response above on these two limks which prove absolutely nothing!
Actually, you are right. The fact that Obama's eligibility is irrelevant to the Lakin case does not prove Obama's eligiblity. What proves his eligibility is the fact that he was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate shows and as the officials in Hawaii confirm.
Ellen! LMAO!Bott!
Obama's elegibility is the basis of the defense stupid!
Yes, it was the basis of the defense. Also, it was a stupid basis for a defense.
The eligibility of the president has nothing to do with the military crime of disobeying an order. If the president had directly given the order, then maybe. But in this case he didn't.
Imagine running a war with the soldiers having the right to refuse orders on the basis that they believed the president was not eligible. During WWI: "Soldier, attack." "I won't, Sir. Woodrow Wilson hasn't proven that he is eligible to be the president.' During WWII "Soldier, get in the boat. We are going to invade in Normandy." "No sir, I won't. FDR hasn't proven that he is eligible to be president."
I kmow that what these officers speak about Mr Obama is the whole unvarnished truth! The man is not an American. This Obama fellow should be tried under the "High Crimes & Misdemeoners" section of our United States Constitution. Let us not forget that the complete Democrat National Committee is also complicit in this phony election of a non-US citizen and they, too, should be tried right along with him! Americans are just not as stupid as some politicians would have us believe. Mr Obama will do something, I fear, drastic to attempt to "change the subject" in the near future. Without our military going along with Obamas "orders" he is an empty suit and a liar! We pray everyone who wears the armed forces uniforms understands exactly who this evil is and stands up solely for our Constitution and NOT for Barrack Hussein Soetro aka Obama! Where's his passport, his school records, his multiple social security numbers, his BAR exams paperwork, the bribing of at least two congressmen, etc., etc?
This illegal, islam , muslim, alien, baby mutderer, is not an American citizen. During his speech in Germany during the October beerfest, he tells exactly who he is. He said, "I am not an American citizen." " I am a citizen of the world." He deserves a firing squad!
In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.
The Grapes of Wrath
Now if he can actually show the TRUE BIRTH CERTIFICATE and not the phony one given to children to say they were born in Hawaii with the LIVE BIRTH on the top. That is NOT a true Birth Certificate and if he can't cough up the real one, he ought to be arrested and sent to Levinworth Pen. immediately where he should be now anyway. He'd pretty much screwed our country up and I think this trial couldn't have happened at a better time. COUGH UP THE KENNEL CERTIFICATE OR GET READY FOR THE RIDE OF YOUR LIFE, RAG HEAD!!!!!!
The Certification of Live Birth, which is the document that Obama posted, is the official birth certificate of Hawaii. It is used every year by thousands of people. It is a true birth certificate, and in fact the ONLY birth certificate or birth document of any kind that Hawaii has issued since 2001, and the facts on Obama's birth certificate were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii, and most recently by the governor of Hawaii.
ELLEN, BOTT! MORE OF THE SAME OLD CANNED RESPONSES BY YOU. JUST STICK A SOCK IN IT!
Here's the real deal!
Certificate of Birth No.. 12018 from COAST PROVINCE GENERAL HOSPITAL, Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya follows: Child bearing name of BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA Sex: M: Full name of Mother: STANLEY ANN OBAMA, Maiden Surname: DUNHAM, Date of Birth: 11/29/1942. Full name of Father: BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, Date of Birth: 1936. on this 4th day of August, 1961 at 7:24 PM. Weight of Child at Birth: 7 pounds one ounce, Length: 18 inches, Width between shoulders: 6 inches. Residence of Mother; HONOLULU, HAWAII, UNITED STATES. Birth Place of MOTHER; WITCHITA, KANSAS, UNITED STATES. Birth Place of Father; Kanyaihiang Village, Nyanza. Occupation of Father: STUDENT. Occupation of Mother; STUDENT. Name of attending Doctor: JAMES G. W. ANG'AWA, Signature of attending Doctor:_________. Date:8/5/1961. Superintendent of Obstretrics: JOHN KWAME ODONGO, Signature: _____. Date: 8/7/1961, Copy of Right foot stamped in Bottom Left Corner.
Yeah, sure.
James,
Inept response to Combat Vet Korea '50's post!
Your post & responses continue to be increasingly insipid.
Here is the WND article proving that the "Kenyan birth certificate" is a forgery:
http://beartracks.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/1756/
Ellen! Bott!
Stop repeating your same old canned responses!
Seriously they have become very old & dull to every one.
Carol Obama will become desperate & will over step his authority or try to impose martial law to stay in power. At that point in time the military will step in & a Coup d'etet will occur thus removong him from office. The military will retain power & order until new elections can occur. Everything for Obama is begining to unravel now!
Obama will not submit any evidence to the court, and the court will convict Lakin. That is because only two things have to be proven in showing that someone disobeyed a legal order. First, the person who delivered the order has to be a superior officer to the one who received it. Second, it has to be a legal order. The order was given by a superior officer to Lakin, and it was not Obama specifically who ordered Lakin to go to Afghanistan, and Afghanistan is a legal war. It was authorized by Congress under the Bush administration.
Thus the issue of Obama's Natural Born citizenship is irrelevant to the case.
Obama, of course, IS a Natural Born Citizen. That is the reason that his election was carried out by the Electoral College and confirmed by the US Congress. If Obama's Natural Born Citizen status were relevant to this case, the facts would be presented that the Electoral College had voted and the Congress had confirmed, and that would be that. But, since Obama's status is not relevant, even this will not be required.
Ellen..silly thing, confirmed by congress…ha do you realize his records should be public, and there are members of congress who still question him and his records? So please clarify for me just how you come to this conclusion. We were able to see McCains records publicly. And btw, if not hiding something why spend so much money TO hide something? Might I add it is extremely important to our military to have access to these records for it is THEIR lives at risk just so you are allowed to even speak you mind freely. So please do not lecture to us about what is relevant for WE know what is relevant, and that is the TRUTH!
"there are members of congress who still question him and his records"
Only those who are trying to appeal to birthers. But none actually "question him" directly or state–as do many loons here–that he is not qualified to be president. They just let you folks think they might think that way, hoping to get your vote. After all, a misinformed vote counts as much as an informed one.
JAMES,
SO BY BEING A MISINFORMED VOTER WAS HOW OBAMA WAS ELECTED?
SOUNDS RIGHT TO ME!
I don't disagree (for a change)–Obama certainly wasn't my first choice–though far better than McLame/Falin' would have been.
James,
Please learn how to spell McClain & Palin !
Why i even waste my time with responding to your poor post at times is a mystery even to me!
I am sure Hillary was your first choice!
Who is "McClain"?
LOL!
McCain!
See you are a bad influience! Damn you are starting to even effect my spelling!
ELLEN!
STICK A SOCK IN IT!
Once again, you are not discussing the facts. You are simply asking that someone you disagree with should go away. Well, other people deserve to see the facts.
ELLEN!
REALLY! YOU'R A BOTT! NOT A VERY INTELLEGENT ONE AT THAT!
Here are the facts:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag…
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/02/birther.c…
Thanks for the links, Ellen, though I suppose now your critics here will say wnd.com is a biased liberal website, since you linked to it.
James/Ellen who ever you want to be!
These links you refer to prove nothing!
The Juge's ruling on disclosure is in fact being appealed to The Army Court of Criminal Appeals. This is a on going case!
If this bastard squeaks through and gets crooked judges to side with his illegal, islam, muslim, ass, there are hundreds of other cases wating to put this bastard in Guantanamo with his islam , muslim, terrorist buddies.
Yeah, sure. Cite one, that has won at any level of jurisdiction.
James,
Do not respond in such a Impetuous manner!
Combat Vet Korea'50 may just depose of you once these cases are in fact won on appeal & tried in a court of law.
Dream on. When 66 or so rulings have held that there is no standing to sue, it is likely to be the law that there is no standing to sue. (If you don't like it, change the law. But that is the law.)
Maybe you can get the Republicans to change the law on standing once they are in control. But they won't because people would just use it to bring lawsuits against them. But, you can dream. Dream on, and on, and on.
"Depose" of me? You might want to check the dictionary. Unless you're declaring me king of the blog or something.
Regardless, people who hid behind fake names and who can't get even basic facts right don't worry me much–even if there was a remote chance any of these cases would be "won on appeal and tried in a court of law."
Thanks for another chuckle, though.
James,
Lol! King of the Blog! You sound just like a Obama want to be! You are mentally challenged but not so far gone that you did not realize i meant disposed.
As for fake names no one on this site has more aliases than you do. I have noticed that you are relying on your Bott Ellen now even more than before.
When it comes to basic facts i have proven time & time again that you have none just spin & lies coupled with disinformation & opinion only.
Oh yes i do worry you very much so! You do not like my making a Jester of you constantly on this site!
You chuckle about any of the cases being won on appeal or tried in a court of law.
Only time will tell as to which of our opinions will be proven to be correct.
Fake names? Again? Really? Like that wasn't a stupid claim the first few dozen times you said it? Even if it were possible, why would someone do that, especially about the only person here who uses his own name?
It you are referring to Obama's birth certificate however. Obama has already shown it. The document that he posted and showed the physical copies of is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed by the officials in Hawaii and the governor of Hawaii. ____What do you expect the Hawaiians are going to say after their lives are threatened?__You can espouse all the BS, but you have no truth. Here is where this illegal, islam, muslim, alien, baby murderer was born. FYI: The State Department comfirmed this illegal, islam, muslim, alien, baby murderer has dual citizenship, which is illegal.____
Certificate of Birth No.. 12018 from COAST PROVINCE GENERAL HOSPITAL, Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya follows: Child bearing name of BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA Sex: M: Full name of Mother: STANLEY ANN OBAMA, Maiden Surname: DUNHAM, Date of Birth: 11/29/1942. Full name of Father: BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, Date of Birth: 1936. on this 4th day of August, 1961 at 7:24 PM. Weight of Child at Birth: 7 pounds one ounce, Length: 18 inches, Width between shoulders: 6 inches. Residence of Mother; HONOLULU, HAWAII, UNITED STATES. Birth Place of MOTHER; WITCHITA, KANSAS, UNITED STATES. Birth Place of Father; Kanyaihiang Village, Nyanza. Occupation of Father: STUDENT. Occupation of Mother; STUDENT. Name of attending Doctor: JAMES G. W. ANG'AWA, Signature of attending Doctor:_________. Date:8/5/1961. Superintendent of Obstretrics: JOHN KWAME ODONGO, Signature: _____. Date: 8/7/1961, Copy of Right foot stamped in Bottom Left Corner.
The "Kenya birth certificate" you refer to has been proven to be a forgery by WND. The very date formats that you show (8/5/61 for example) follow the US format for dates (month/date/year0 and not the British/Kenya format (date/month/year). The guy who claims to have gotten the document is a convicted felon, and he never even showed that he had gone to Kenya.
Ellen,
I myself along with many do not give you credence on this or any other issue! You simply have no credibility nor have you provided actual facts to back up your poorly written & may i also say vague post & responses.
Here is the actual article that crushes the "Kenyan birth certificate." :
http://beartracks.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/1756/
Notice where it says: "The document does not look remotely like the 1961-era birth certificates used in Kenya; infant footprints were not displayed on Kenyan birth certificates in the 1961-era."
Ellen the Bott
Give it a break before you overload!
Same old! Same old! Canned & programmed response by you.
Having difficulty dealing with the facts?
What gives you the absurd idea that the officials in Hawaii had their lives threatened? The first of their two confirmations was BEFORE THE ELECTION. The clerk, the first one to look into the file, filled in the form in 2007.
Several historians have reported that Thomas Jefferson received full citizenship from France. Full citizenship, not just honorary citizenship, by an act of the French legislature. That would make him a dual national with France. And his dual nationality occurred when he was an adult, not when he was born.
In addition to this historic fact, US law has always held that dual nationality has no effect on US citizenship whatsoever. In particular, it could have no effect on the Natural Born part of Natural Born Citizen. The original meaning of Natural Born, the one that Americans used at the time of the writing of the Constitution, was simply "born in the country." A foreign law can no more affect that geographic fact than a foreign law could make someone who was born in Ohio not Ohio-born.
Ellen,
No one but you yourself are having difficulty with the facts.
You, however, never discuss the facts. You only call names.
Ellen,
I do in fact discuss the facts! You are just to metally lacking to understand the facts.
Your post & responses are hopelessly hackneyed.
Sure you do. Here is a fact. Discuss it.
Several historians have reported that Thomas Jefferson received full citizenship from France. Full citizenship, not just honorary citizenship, by an act of the French legislature. That would make him a dual national with France.
Ellen,
Lol! Get real! Why would i care to discuss Thomas Jefferson with a bott?
Obama is the one in question not Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson was born April 13,1743 in Albemarle County Virginia.
Therefore he is a Natural Born Citizen. He was only a Honorary French Citizen.
France awarded Honorary Citizenship to a number of our Founding Fathers & to name just a few George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Paine & James Madison.
Now THIS is interesting! Obama is hiding MANY things~~An obvious person who infiltrated the White House throught misinformed voters choice. This is just too sad that one person in concert with other Marxist Islamist leanings can bring down the greatest country on this planet. Hitler couldn't do it with his war machine, and Obama can accomplish the task in a very short period of time. Something is terribly, terribly wrong~~~
Ah, a heady mix of Godwin's law and misinformation. "Something is terribly, terribly wrong," indeed.
JAMES!
LOL! EX- MAKE BELIEVE FAKE JOURNALIST WANT A BE!
WHAT IS TERRIBLY, TERRIBLY WRONG INDEED IS YOUR LAME PATHETIC RESPONSES WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING OR LITTLE TO SAY!
AS I HAVE TOLD YOU NUMEROUS TIMES YOU CAN STICK GODWIN'S LAW UP YOUR ASS!
"AS I HAVE TOLD YOU NUMEROUS TIMES…"
Why would anyone care?
James,
Because you are mostly unliked by others on this site!
I suspect that makes two of us. And I also suspect that I'm happier about that fact than you are.
James,
It doesn't bother me that you are a dispical vile low life liberal. Why would it? That is but your own personnal problem & not mine.
We are not related.
As you know, I never call names. I never imply motives or discuss motives. I only state the facts.
ELLEN,
YOU WOULD NOT KNOW A FACT IF IT STRUCK YOU IN THE FACE! HOW COULD YOU? YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A BOTT! A POOR ONE AT THAT!
You never do anything but call names. You never discuss facts. In this case, the facts are that Obama has published the official birth certificate of Hawaii and the facts on it were confirmed by the Republican governor of Hawaii and two officials. But these facts are still irrelevant to the Lakin case, which is an issue of whether Lakin disobeyed a legal order from his superior officer. The order to go to Afghanistan is legal because Afghanistan is a legal war, authorized by Congress.
LOL! ELLEN GET EDUCATED ON THE FACTS! THEN COME BACK! UNTIL THEN DON'T WASTE OUR TIME!
Obama by hiding all his records bring all the no believing on himself. Only people that have something to hide act as he does. From all his actions there is no way to believe anything that he or any of his people say. To much water over the dam now.
ELLEN,
CHECK THE FACTS! STOP THE SPIN & LIES! EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE A BOTT YOUR FACT CHECKING LIKES GREATLY!
I am so disgusted with what has happened to Dr. Laken I get sick to my stomach. I was a patient of Dr. Lakens many years when we were both younger and it is hard for me to except the treatment given him for asking for proof of this president's eligibility to order men and women to put their life on the line and not produce the evidence we all want to see. Dr Laken is an example of a patriot and I pray God will make a way for him to escape the trouble being brought to him. We owe our service men more than this kind of treatment. I can't except that this country has come to this. Why are all those men and women loosing their lives and going througe hell? For this type of injustice? Mr Obama should be on trial for refusing to give the documents so many are asking for. He has much to answer for. What a mess he has made of this beautiful country.
"It completely deprives us of any opportunity to present a defense in this case," Lakin's attorney said.
Duh. I wonder if she told her client that before now.
James,
Lame person! What a dumb post!
Disclosure has always been Lakin's sole defense!
And then he'll be gored by a unicorn and eaten by a gryphon.
No James!
He will go down in history as the worst president ever.
Well, the second worst of the 21st century, so far, anyway.
No James!
Obama is #1 & Jimmy Carter is #2.
Uh, you might want to check on when the 21st century began.
James! Dummy!
Read my response very carefully!
Your comprehension & reading skills continue to erode.
I made no comment about the 21st Century!
HISTORY!
And yet you keep acting as if you have it.
James,
Why must you be contentious when in fact it has caused a conundrum politically for Obama.
How do you know that Combat Vet Korea' 50 does not have it? Can you corroborate that in fact he doesn't? No you can not!
Eh?
James,
Glib & flippant respose by you which has become the norm.
Questions?
When will you cease to bring ebarressment upon yourself?
Better still when will you tire om my making such a Clown of you?
Correction: tire of my
How Dare The Entire US Govt Will Stand With The Manchurian Pres Obama, Who Has Spent Millions Of Tax Dollars To Hide Behind Something As Simple As His Long Form Birth Certificate, And Phony Social Security Card, With All The Evidence In Col Lakins Corner, This Is A Disgrace To A Superior Veteran And Makes A Mockery Of Our Constitution, Plus Every Veteran Should Stand With Col Lakin Until This Paperless Pres Obama Is Vetted And Proven A Imposter. Yikees, Please Call Washington D.C. And Donate To The Col Terry Lakin Fund, God Bless Terry Lakin.
Or you could just send him a cake with a hacksaw blade baked into it.
James the mentally retarded & androgynous one on this site!
The more you post or respond on this site the more callow you appear to everyone. Personnally i think you have some serious cerebral problems.
And everyone here so highly values what you think.
James,
According to the negatives people give your post compared to the positives that my post receive i would say overwhelmingly they value my comments over yours.
"a like of fair dialogue"
"Personally i believe you are a Bott."
Then why would you respnd to her? So which is it: Are you lying about what you believe, or do you always respond to robots?
I'd also be interested in how you think Hobson's choice applies to her comments.
James,
Why is it a Presumed (FAKE) News Reporter, Journalist & Professor of Media Law can not make a intellegent post or response? Do you even know the definition of Hobson's Law? No you do not or you would not be asking how it aplies to her comments. Simply put her post do not allow for a possible choice or alternative. Did you read my entire response? You must not have! I will not give Ellen whether in fact she is a real person or your Bott a free pass to spin lies & misinformation on this site.
The choice that I offer is vastly worse than Hobson's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobson%27s_choice).
Hobson's Choice is "take it or leave it." With the facts, there is no choice at all. They ARE the facts, and they must be accepted. I suppose you could say that you have a choice between accepting the facts and dreaming, but that is not a logical choice.
The facts, which simply must be accepted, is that Obama has proven that he was born in Hawaii. This is shown by his official birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials and witness in Hawaii and by Obama's Kenyan grandmother. These facts are accepted by such zealous conservatives as Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck, and of course they were accepted by all 535 members of Congress.
The facts are not accepted by you, but you have not given any facts of your own to disprove them. You give the impression that you prefer to keep on dreaming.
Ellen you are in fact dreaming!
This judge is in the pocket of Obama and the liberal establishment. The illuminati is in the military as well aparently. I hope you illuminati have a good plan because when you fail you better have a place to hide.
Don't you know, the illuminati are everywhere, controlling everything? How can they fail?
Juat as Aolph Hitler failed!
Lol! Getting too late!
Correction! Just As Adolph Hitler failed!
sob was never eligible to be POTUS, most of the ruling class knew it, banks and big business ceo's knew it, gw and his admin. (traitors) knew it, congress knew it, SOCTUS knew it, our legal system knew it, trilat's, berger's, masons, eastern stars, illum's, cfr's, msm and many others ALL knew the fix was in for sob to become usob. Now with this many people in the know about usob, there is not one who tried to stop it, instead they have been hugh obstacles, to American patriots everywhere, in subverting or delaying the inevitable. sob has stalled, DELAYED, avoid, and lied to give him and his cronies more time to destroy America and bring in the NWO. It's all a STALL technique to give them time. Give them time for what? The final blow? Martial law? Financial meltdown? Whatever it is millions will die. I hate obots, they are the scum of the earth. The ignorants who voted for sob should lose their voting rights.
Time Is Wasting As Dumbo Fl.ys Around The World Hiding Behind His Big Mouth With Telepromter Attached, Yikees, President Barack H. Obama Is As Phoney As A Three Dollar Bill, Yet He Just Keeps Spending And Using His Phoney Social Security Card For Identification, Yikees, SSI Investigator Susan Daniels Stated "There Is Obviously A Case Of ID Fraud Going On Here By President Obama, I Have Never Seen The SS Administration Make A Mistake Of Issuing A Conn SSN To A Person Who Lived In Hawaii, There Is No Family Connection That Would Appear To Explain The Anomaly, Yikeess, Plus His SS Card 042—-4425 He Is Using Is That Of A Conn Man Over 100 Yrs Old, Yikees Not Even Close Buckwheat.