The American Conservative Union (ACU) and the granddaddy of all conservative conferences, CPAC, are endangered. Many of the traditional sponsors that supported the conference through thick and thin years have abandoned ship.
The issue over which the Media Research Center, Heritage Foundation, Family Research Council, and others have left the room is CPAC’s insistence that GOPProud, an organization of homosexual self-proclaimed conservatives, be given a booth inside the conference. For many conservatives, including us, this recognition of GOProud signifies an acceptance of the open promotion of the gay lifestyle inside the tent of conservatism. As a director of ACU, Floyd is acutely aware of the power struggles this controversy has unleashed inside the organization’s boardroom.
Donald Devine, in an excellent essay available on the ACU website under the title, “Why We are Conservative,” lays out the framework of ideas that built ACU and the modern conservative movement. Devine, a professor of political science, former Reagan administration official, and longtime director of ACU harkens back to the editorial debates at a small publication named National Review in the late 1950’s and early 1960’s.
Devine writes, “Before the 1950s, there were no conservatives. There were traditionalists and libertarians who opposed the dominant welfare state liberal ideology, and there were Republicans who were ‘do it slower-than-the Democrats,’ moderates. But there were no conservatives in the modern sense. Modern conservatism was invented at National Review magazine in the mid-fifties, primarily by editors, William F. Buckley, Jr. and Frank Meyer.”
And then Devine shares the brilliant nugget of compromise that launched the movement and helped it rise to prominence:
As befitting conservatism’s positive view of common sense and tradition, the new doctrine was not planned but grew from the interactions of its creative but divided staff, which needed some common ground from which to publish a coherent enterprise. Meyer dubbed it “fusionist” conservatism. Its highest value was liberty, but it was a freedom to be used responsibly as a means to pursue traditionally defined and virtuous ends. The formula was: conservatism equals relying upon libertarian means to pursue traditional ends.
Libertarian ideas were used to fight for virtue and traditional ends. Gays in the military, gay marriage, and the promotion of the gay lifestyle in the schools are not traditional ends.
National Review embraced the pro-life movement, standing against the modern culture of death represented most completely by abortion and euthanasia. National Review’s editor Bill Buckley spoke out against the modern movement for homosexual civil rights, calling his ABC News debating partner Gore Vidal a “queer” on national TV and then later writing of Vidal that his “essays proclaim the normalcy of his affliction and his art the desirability of it.” He is “not to be confused with the man who bears his sorrow quietly. The addict is to be pitied and even respected, not the pusher.”
No clearer words than Buckley’s express our own sentiment toward homosexuality. It is a sin, and the addict is to be pitied and accepted in Christian love — but not the pusher or promoter of the agenda. Our problem with GOProud and why we don’t believe they belong in the conservative tent is because they are the “pusher” of their alternative lifestyle.
Conservatism has long tolerated homosexuals in its ranks. We have worked with many on issues as diverse as gun rights and getting Ronald Reagan elected. Floyd learned from and admired Terry Dolan, the founder and genius behind National Conservative Political Action Committee (NCPAC) and many of the movements’ early election victories.
ACU and Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) were two of the founding organizations of this movement which first found its voice with Barry Goldwater, and then later Ronald Reagan. Floyd has served with homosexuals on both of these boards, and up until this time, both organizations have been stalwarts of social conservatism. ACU as late as 2010 passed a resolution in support of traditional marriage.
But the forces of the secular pro-gay culture that surrounds us are now winning and undermining the great compromise which brought social conservatives, free market advocates, and anti-communists together. And together they forged victories. Alone, they will be minority voices scrambling for relevance.
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They may be minority voices, but those voices are heard by millions and as the saying is, the squeeky wheel gets the grease. They have recieved so much attention has been their outspoken position on such an abnormal lifestyle. First called 'queer' meaning odd, strange, or curious because it was against the norm and people listened for the same reason we are drawn to look at a horrible wreck, it was something different and 'other-worldly'. Now they are 'gays' and it is accepted by many as common-place. However, it still does not represent a conservative style but a divisive style that would cause many to leave the Tea Party and other conservative groups which view such as very liberal.
Queers are not abnormal. That is a MYTH. Gays have been known from Biblical times. How abnormal can that be? It's not UN-NORMAL. It's just not LIFE affirming. This is why it is classified as a MORTAL sin. There is no MORTALS after that. It's completely selfish. Thus, a sin. It ENDS life.
A large component of conservatism is morality , homosexual behavior is the epitomy of immorality . The two are as incompatible as communism and the United States constitution. NUFF SAID !!!
CHRISTIAN HOTELIER TO LOSE HOME OVER “BIAS” AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS (Friday Church News Notes, January 28, 2011, http://www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) – The following is excerpted from the Daily Mail, Jan. 24, 2011: “Christian hotel owner Hazelmary Bull has certainly had her faith tested to the limit this week. Yesterday, she was planning to make a four-hour round trip to visit her desperately ill husband Peter, 71, in hospital, where he is recovering from a triple heart bypass and valve replacement surgery. How, she fretted, was she going to tell him that they were teetering on the brink of financial ruin? That there was little hope now of hanging on to the Cornish guesthouse they’d owned for 25 years; the home they’d poured not only their life savings into, but also their heart and souls. In the end, 66-year-old Hazelmary just couldn’t bring herself to do it. On Tuesday, Peter was undergoing a nine-hour operation at the exact moment his wife of 47 years was sitting in Bristol County Court waiting to hear their fate. In a landmark ruling, which will have far-reaching implications for many Christians in Britain, Judge Rutherford ordered the Bulls to pay civil partners Martyn Hall, 46, and Steven Preddy, 38, £1,800 each in compensation for refusing to allow the couple to stay in a double room at their hotel. The gay couple, IT workers from Bristol, sued the Bulls for £5,000 in damages under the Equality Act (Sexuality Orientation) Regulations 2007, after they were turned away from seven-bedroom Chymorvah House, near Penzance, in September 2008. The Bulls argued that, as devout Christians, they let their double rooms only to heterosexual married couples and that their beliefs prevented them from allowing same-sex couples to share a double bed–although gay couples could stay in single or twin rooms. This week, however, the judge ruled that the Bulls’ actions amounted to direct discrimination, on the grounds of sexual orientation, as there was ‘no material difference between marriage and civil partnership.’ … Hazelmary says: ‘We are not homophobic. Had Mr Hall and Mr Preddy booked into twin rooms or for a cream tea, we would have more than–welcomed them. For us, it’s a case of loving the sinner, but not the sin.’”
CHRISTIAN HOMESCHOOLING FAMILY BROKEN APART BY NEW JERSEY AGENCY (Friday Church News Notes, January 28, 2011, http://www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) – The following is excerpted from WorldNetDaily, Jan. 20, 2011: “It's every parent's nightmare. Army Major John Jackson and his wife Carolyn, devout Christian homeschoolers with a history of serving as adoptive and foster parents, had their five children taken away in April 2010 by the New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services–and despite the collapse of the evidence against the Jacksons, DYFS hasn't returned the children to their parents. During the course of a nine-month legal battle to regain custody of their children, the Jacksons say they have encountered prejudice against their religion and homeschooling as they fight a state agency determined to see the children adopted by strangers no matter what the evidence says. According to the Jacksons, DYFS employees, contractors and foster parents alike have demonstrated anti-religious bias, including one case supervisor who refused to allow the Jacksons to pray with their children as they wished, for the reunification of the family. ‘You can pray about other things, you can pray that they’ll be happy in their placements,’ said a DYFS worker identified by Jackson as Denise Hollerbach. Jackson accuses DYFS of fraudulently misrepresenting statements by himself and his children to build a case against him, ‘brainwashing’ the children by telling them they have been abused and ‘isolating’ them by not allowing them to be assessed independently by U.S. Army investigators. The father of five claims DYFS suppressed a medical report concluding that injuries suffered by daughter Chaya Jackson could not be proven with ‘medical certainty’ to have resulted from child abuse. Dr. Mark S. Finkelstein of the Alfred I. Dupont Hospital for Children wrote, ‘It is equally possible that this injury may have occurred in or around the time of birth or in the later post-neonatal period’–before Chaya was adopted by the Jacksons. ‘DYFS kept this out of the court. We had to get it and provide it as evidence,’ said Jackson. … ‘DYFS had the information to exonerate us before they removed our children, but they continued on to try to gather information to remove the kids,’ said Carolyn Jackson. ‘It's been difficult to work with them and try to walk in integrity and love when you know anything you say will be turned around and used against you.’”
This is about as far as conservatism as you can get. Saying these "guys" are conseratives are about the same as saying is comparable tos saying that Harry Reid or that Kenyan, The Leader (you can say it in German if you like) Obamanation is conservative. None of it would be true.
ENUFF is ENUFF!!!! I love the term "PUSHERS", that's exactly what it is!! There is one thing they will never change and that is what being a true conservative really is!! They are wolves in sheeps clothing.
Without even touching on the religious aspects of this issue; biologically, humans are designed to reproduce heterosexually, NOT homosexually, and like it or not, reproduction IS the only real purpose for sexual behaviors; the rest is fluff we humans have added onto it over the millenia. Psychiatrically speaking, up through the DSM 3 homosexual behavior was listed as a behavioral disorder; it was removed as such from the DSM 4 NOT for medical/psychiatric reasons but because the homosexual lobbies and the ACLU led by Ruth Ginsberg threatened to tie the APA up in law suits for decades if they so listed it again; and they capitulated, wrongfully I believe. History shows us that EVERY society that has embraced homosexual behaviors as "normal" in the past has collapsed, but it also shows us that every time it's come to that, the society was already in moral decline, and that simply hastened the demise of the societal structure. It also shows us, if we're willing to look honestly, that the spread of STDs is greater where all sexual promiscuity is accepted, and that has always been a common trait of homosexuals, the promiscuity. Now, if that offends some, so be it. But the WORST aspect of "accepting " homosexuality as "normal" is that it opens wide a door for ALL other sexually aberrant behaviors to demand the SAME recognition as normal, and no sooner did the APA pull it out of the DSM 4 than NAMBLA, a group of men who are homosexually active with young boys, began demanding that right too. These men are PEDOPHILES. That also means rapists can demand the same right to recognition as normal as well, and society has NO grounds on which to deny any of them, because it has accepted the one aberration as "normal". Now having grown up in a household where I was sexually abused by both parents starting at a very early age, I have NO desire to see this happening, because I already know the destruction that behavior wrought not only on me but on my four siblings as well, and I saw its effects in our extended family besides. I don't want to see that protected by the laws and children and women being destroyed by it, just because 2-5 % of our population wants to wallow in their dysfunction and not recover from it!
I have to agree with you about the door being opened to other sexually aberrant behaviors. Lately children have been in the controversy spotlight. First, the controversy over kindergarden and sex ed and second "The Single Ladies routine" which you can view via youtube,click on the one that has the children in red two pieces. During this routine they do the old bump and grind motion, behavior that would excite PEDOPHILES and MOLESTERS. Honestly, I don't ever want to find entertainment like this entertaining, not ever ! I checked out NAMBLA'S website and I was at a loss for words. Have we reached " THE FINAL CHAPTER" ??
NAMBLA began campaigning for "alternate life style" status as soon as the DSM 4 came out without homosexuality listed as a behavioral disorder; that was the EARLY '70s; and now the DSM 5 is set to be released. What disgusts me is that these fool homosexuals DON'T care about the hornets' nest they're unleashing with their selfish demands to be considered "normal' when even anyone who's taken basic biology KNOWS they're not, and most people instinctively feel revulsion toward their behaviors. But that door is opened now; and there's not going to be any easy way to shut it again.
We need to take our podium BACK. IF gay people turn conservavtives away from this conference, they win.. Grover Norquist, a man who is busy islamizing our nation is allowed to interfere with conservatism by pretending that he cares about taxing.. When in reality, all he cares about is getting sharia into America.. Under sharia, there are no gays (they are KILLED).. That is TRUTH that he should have to answer to but we are so proudly politically correct that we will soon lose our nation to the trickery of islam.
How is it that we allow the progressives of all sorts to twist our message up? Using the political correctness that they themselves are incapable of living up to, they undermine our attempts to save this nation from the many enemies against it that have joined forces and are very close to accomplishing the goal of taking down the west for islam.
Islam uses taqiyya to spread its tentacles throughout the world. The muslim brotherhood, with their plan to conquer America for islam, outsmart us each day. Here they have managed to get conservatives to stay home so that CPAC will now be yet another place for them to lie, cheat and steal our nation, our values, our culture for islam.
2 Peter 3
1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Let me preface by saying I'm submitting this comment in good faith, and I hope it will be read so.
First, not all homos support gay marriage. I personally think the issue should be up to the states, and states should not have to recognize a union not defined in its laws. On that note, I wouldn’t support redefining marriage in Pennsylvania, but would support a civil union type of law.
Secondly, teaching about homosexuality, and the actions some homos participate in, has no place in schools. Let children be children, and if they feel they might be gay, let them not learn about it on the dime of their parents or others.
Thirdly, hate-crimes laws are anti-liberty and should be opposed for all so-called ‘protected groups’. We have our rights as individuals, not as members of any specific or vague group. Being gay, black, or female should not elevate your status as victim if a crime has been committed against you.
And fourth, I’ll be at CPAC, working at the GOProud booth. My comments here are my own opinions, and GOProud has neither denied nor confirmed support of these views. But I just say this to let you know, there do exist homos who want to help save our republic so we can go on living-and-letting-live. Hope to see you all at CPAC so a proper dialogue can be engaged in.
Not all gays are pro gay marriage and anti family. I shun gay pride not because I am ashamed of being gay,but because parading around in skimpy underwear and groping in public is nothing to be proud of. What we have lost sight of in this country,and this applies to many,many diverse issues EQUALITY IS NOT SAMENESS! Should there be civil recognition of inheritance, insurance, and power of attorney issues? Absolutely, but one cannot ignore the fact that procreation is naturally impossible for same sex couples.Not all couples can or choose to reproduce, but the point is they could, in most instances without medical intervention. There have always benn gay and lesbian people, there always will be. Persecution should be outawed,but prejudice and opinion cannot be outlawed. Let's get the civil equality done and everybody just live with the compromise. Conservatism is about FISCAL responsibility.The owner was out of line to refuse the two gentlemen unless she demands to see a marraige license from each and every heterosexual couple wanting to rent a room. It was a frivolous suit and the award should have been a free stay in a double room, nothing more.
Homosexuals prey on children.
33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7).
There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.
Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19).
73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).
Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22).
Because homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting "TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT" in their homosexual parades. A group called the "Lesbian Avengers" prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print "WE RECRUIT" on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren't as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert.
"Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, "
Doesn't it follow, then, (if true) that means the other 77% are committed by heterosexuals?
And what's the percentage of AFA members that have an unhealthy obsession with gays?
There is no such thing as a "healthy" obsession with sodomites.
Indeed.
The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8). [This is a reduction in the length of life by 44% (33/75 = 44%)
What method was used to make this determination and who made it? I think you'll be disappointed to find out.
This info is accurate.
God's calls homosexuality an ABOMINATION.
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts oftheir own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, andworshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them upunto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also themen, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. Romans 1: 24, 25, 26, 27.
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: forall that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 22:5.
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner,giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forthfor an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 7
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit thekingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, noridolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers ofthemselves with mankind. 1 Corinthians 6: 9.
Knowing this, that the law is not madefor a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and forsinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers ofmothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselveswith mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be anyother thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. 1 Timothy 1:9,10.
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put todeath: and ye shall slay the beast. And if a woman approach unto any beast,and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surelybe put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Lev 20: 15, 16.
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, aswith womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Leviticus 18: 22, 23.
It's great that you write of liberty and freedom, but it's disappointing when you undermine that with the unspoken caveat "(but only for certain people we like)". About 30% of gays voted Republican in the last election. You (and I'm not singling out Mr. Brown, here) could have so many more standing with you for liberty, freedom, fair taxes, strong national security, fiscal responsibility etc., but you're so hung up on what folks do in their private lives. You could have so many more people willing to fight with you.
Most of us want exactly what I listed above. Conservatism is good for gays. Not all gays go to the bars, not all of us go to the parades, not all of us vote democreep, not all of us support ENDA (thought crimes) and most of us would accept a civil union that protects marriage. The reality is that we're not all pushing any "gay lifestyle" (whatever the hell that is). Most of us just want to live in piece in the greatest country in the world and help to maintain it, and if we help to raise the property values, so much the better.
Montana Restaurant
This is a great story! The radios station America FM was doing one of its "Is Anyone Listening?" bits this morning. The first question was, 'Ever have a celebrity come up with the 'Do you know who I am?' routine.
A woman called in and said that a few years ago, while visiting her cattle rancher uncle in Billings , MT , she had occasion to go to dinner at a restaurant that does not take reservations. The wait was about 45 minutes, and many ranchers and their wives were waiting.
Ted Turner and his ex-wife Jane Fonda came in the restaurant and wanted a table. The hostess informed them that they'd have to wait 45 minutes.
Jane Fonda asked the hostess, 'Do you know who I am?' The hostess answered, 'Yes, but you'll have to wait 45 minutes.'
Then Jane asked if the manager was in. When the manager came out, he asked, 'May I help you?' 'Do you know who we are?' both Ted and Jane asked. Yes, but these folks have been waiting, and I can't put you ahead of them.'
Then Ted asked to speak to the owner. The owner came out, and Jane again asked, 'Do you know who I am?'
The owner answered, 'Yes, I do. Do you Know who I am? I am the owner of this restaurant and I am a Vietnam Veteran. Not only will you not get a table ahead of my friends and neighbors who have been waiting here, but you also will not be eating in my restaurant tonight or any other night. Good bye.'
Only in America , is this a great country or what?
The conservatives / Republicans should be spending their time worrying about our country and fixing its problems, massive spending programs, illegal immigration, export/imports, huge debt with China and Japan, Obamacare, etc. Let's fix the financial position of the USA to be the strongest nation ever. I'm afraid that while the republicans are sitting around worrying about who is sleeping with who, the democrap party is givng the country away. Why do we care what people are doing in their private lives, isn't that part of being a free nation, no government intervention. We're going to wake up one day and be ruled by another nation due to our inability to keep our financials in order.
ha ha ha!
There is no such thing!! There is one word for that “hypocritical”
And you “ThatGuyConservative” You don’t understand about numbers! should we explain you with apples?
Gay people said anti-gays are selfish because we don’t accept them 100%, but I think they are the selfish ones, they only care about his “style of life”, they don’t care about a healthy future.
Is true we need to work about economics and environmental problems, but we need to take care of our morality and soul too. How we want our future for our kids to be? From who we really want to be surrounded.