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Nuts just plain nuts. Every defect in the birth certificate and SS registration are easily explained as to how they were originally created and copied. There is something wrong with those that copntinue to chase this myth.
You sound like one of Obama’s “Willing Victims”.
Well Kivaari, if there is, as you claim, a legitimate reason which can be so easily explained for the defects in the birth certificate and selective service card of Obama, why don’t you provide an explanation? Moreover, why hasn’t anyone in the Obama administration provided an explanation?
Everyone has to write and call their local news paper and demand that they tell us the truth as to what is going on or don’t buy their paper ! Same goes for the TV stations !
Kivaari? Is that a muslim name?
This Effete Fatal, polished turd of an empty suit needs to go! He MUST be stripped of office and denied any benefits afforded past presidents. This fake is the greatest fraud ever pulled on the American people!
Not only is he a fraud, but he is truly dumb as a stump! Whenever he goes “off teleprompter” he is lost, confused and unable to express an intelligent and/or original thought.
How much more does this fraud need to do before action is taken?
how much more . i tell you a lot more as we have been conditioned to being called racest . we would all be stupid if we didn’t see whats going on with this fraud and all of his henchmen and women. nixion had to resign for a lot less than what these frauds are getting away with. at least nixon didn’t get anyone killed.
They both don’t know what makes a Natural Born citizen, hopefully by now they do.
The misinformation spoused in this program is just another reason why the American people don’t know the truth and the deception is allowed to continue. The parents do not have to be natural-born citizens or born in the U.S., as stated by Frank Gaffney and affirmed and accepted as true by Diana West. The parents merely have to be U.S. citizens. There is no question that all persons born to parents who are natural-born citizen parents are natural-born citizens. However, to be a natural-born citizen a person must be born to merely citizen parents, not necessarily natural-born citizen parents. The parents do not have to have been born in the U.S., but rather must merely be U.S. citizens at the time of their child’s birth. The term citizen parents does not have the same meaning natural-born citizen parents. There are several ways to become a U.S. citizen. However, there is only one way to become a natural-born U.S. citizen. Both parents must be U.S. citizens at the time of the birth of their child in order for that child to be a natural-born U,S, citizen.
Contrary to Gaffney and West, there most assuredly is a dispute about Obama’s parents. More importantly, the general belief that he is the son of Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama is a complete hoax.
Not all of the facts have been disclosed.
A mindless mantra is constantly recited, that Barack Hussein Obama, an alien Luo tribesman, is Obama’s father. This is not true. This is a hoax. Gaffney and West, like many others, have been duped by Obama’s claim that his adoptive parents are his birth parents.
The document proffered by Obama on 27 April 2011 is based on a partial picture of Obama’s amended birth certificate, showing his adoptive parents. His original birth certificate, showing his actual birth parents, is retained to guard against violation of the rule against consanguinity, the intermarriage of people too closely related by blood. The original birth certificate confirms that Obama was constitutionally eligible AT BIRTH. He refuses to consent to release of the original, though it confirms his eligibility at that time, because it shows that his father was not Negro. Certainly his father was not Barack Hussein Obama the alien black Luo tribesman; comparison of Obama’s Y-DNA with that of close male relatives of Obama the Luo shows it’s biologically impossible for Obama to be the son of Obama the Luo. Probably neither parent was Negro. It is likely that the father was Stanley Armour Dunham, and the mother an obliging native Hawai’ian wahine. Disclosure of Obama’s vital records and genetic analysis are essential to confirm Obama’s personal and racial identity. It is inexcusable that the House RINOs have not subpoenaed Obama’s vital records, referred to in Dr. Fukino’s press release of 27 July 2009, his original birth certificate and his amended birth certificate, and his DNA. People should have realized at the time of Dr. Fukino’s press release that Obama was a natural born citizen as shown by his vital records. Dr. Fukino had seen them. This excludes Obama the Luo as Obama’s birth father, for he was an ALIEN. This does not diminish the need for publication of Obama’s original birth certificate, for it both confirms his constitutional eligibility and gives evidence that his claim to the distinction of a black Luo father is a false pretense amounting to election fraud. He masquerades as half Negro to appeal for support and protection against investigation. While he’s not investigated, his secret of relinquishing his American citizenship in 1981, and thereby his presidential eligibility, remains safe, and he can continue his espionage, sabotage and subversion.
That is another reason for Obama’s refusal to release his original birth certificate. The birth controversy distracts everybody from the real cause of his ineligibility.
Obama is ineligible because he LOST American citizenship in 1981, as a young Comintern mole, through confirming his juvenile Indonesian naturalization to evade criminal liability for not registering with the Secret Service System in 1979, within thirty days after attaining the age of 18. Although a natural born U.S. citizen at birth, he can not be a natural born U.S. citizen any more, if he is no longer a U.S. citizen at all. Is there any doubt about this reasoning?
As a young Comintern mole, counseled and financed by Comintern moles Frank Marshall Davis and the Ayers family, and perhaps others, Obama went to Indonesia to confirm his juvenile naturalization as a citizen of that country, with the intent of relinquishing American citizenship. The American Department of State advises that foreign naturalization, like conviction for treason, is expatriating if done voluntarily and with intent to relinquish American citizenship.
Quoting from the U.S. Department of State:
POTENTIALLY EXPATRIATING ACTS
Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481), as
amended, states that U.S. citizens are subject to loss of citizenship
if they perform certain specified acts voluntarily and with the
intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Briefly stated, these acts
include:
1. obtaining naturalization in a foreign state [my italics] (Sec. 349
(a) (1) INA);
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7. conviction for an act of treason (Sec. 349 (a) (7) INA).
ADMINISTRATIVE STANDARD OF EVIDENCE
As already noted, the actions listed above can cause loss of U.S.
citizenship only if performed voluntarily and with the intention of
relinquishing U.S. citizenship. The Department has a uniform
administrative standard of evidence based on the premise that U.S.
citizens intend to retain United States citizenship when they obtain
naturalization in a foreign state, subscribe to a declaration of
allegiance to a foreign state, serve in the armed forces of a foreign
state not engaged in hostilities with the United States, or accept
non-policy level employment with a foreign government.
Conclusion of quote from State Department.
See http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_778.html. The Department indulges itself in further administrative presumptions against loss of citizenship, but these are not binding on anybody.
Either Obama successfully shed his American citizenship in 1981 (with relation back to the time of his juvenile naturalization) in which case he was no longer liable for dodging the draft in 1979, or he did not lose it, in which case he was criminally liable for not registering. The fraudulent registration, with the forged date stamp reading “80″ in the date field, does not cure the original crime; it is a separate additional crime.
During the Indonesian sojourn, and as part of the naturalization process, Obama probably swore to the renunciation of all other citizenships, as there is an absolute Indonesian legal doctrine against dual citizenship on the one hand and statelessness on the other. He probably collected proof of Indonesian citizenship to support applications for school admissions and student aid, and an Indonesian passport, useful to a mole in traveling internationally without making a record on his U.S. passport (which he probably retained, or a duplicate of which he retained).
It now appears that the RINOs have refused to investigate Obama for fear of a challenge to Mitt Romney’s eligibility, and in the hope and expectation that the Obama cabal will not dare to challenge Mitt Romney’s place on the ballot. This is profoundly stupid and dangerous to the Republican Party and the nation. Defects, if any, in the U.S. citizenship of George Romney, Mitt’s father, can probably be cured by a nunc pro tunc filing with the American Embassy in Mexico. Through a spurious presidential candidate funded by George Soros and his ilk, the Obama cabal is likely to challenge Mitt Romney (and any VP candidate with one or more alien parents at the time of his birth, like Marco Rubio) off the ballot in many states. Obama can defeat a challenge based on his alien “father” by proving to the chief election official that his real parents were both U.S. citizens. He would try to make his proof under seal, pleading his right to confidentiality, supported by a judicial non-disclosure order. Even if forced to release his original birth certificate, October 2012 will be too late for Obama’s opponents to marshal evidence of Obama’s voluntary relinquishment of American citizenship for meretricious purposes in 1981, especially as Obama has conspired with Indonesian President SBY to purge or sequester (probably sequester) Obama’s Indonesian naturalization records. Obama opponents will be gored by Bush v. Gore. It will also be too late for Obama’s masquerade as half Negro to sink in with the electorate. It will be drowned out by the hubbub of the Obama cabal – that native Hawai’ians are people of color, too, and such people are sore oppressed and must stick together, and this business of ineligibility at birth was nonsense all along! It was, if the facts were known.
It is painfully apparent that Gaffney and West are dangerously behind the learning curve on this matter. The United States is in grave danger of another presidential election’s being stolen by a Comintern mole who shucked his American citizenship, and with it his presidential eligibility, to avoid criminal prosecution decades ago, who has never borne true faith and allegiance to America, and is fanatically dedicated to weakening, sabotaging, subverting, subjugating and destroying the United States of America.
For years I have urged that the Indonesian connection be investigated to find at least enough evidence to prompt investigation of Obama’s naturalization and conspiracy to conceal the records of it. Nobody can seem to get their minds around this matter, and understand and support this last chance to prove that Obama is ineligible, as he surely is, from loss of citizenship, not from being born ineligible.
I will try to ship Gaffney and West this analysis and some others that are far more extensive. Some is too sensitive to be spread on the internet.I will ask them to talk to me, and ask any questions they might have to clarify my remarks. Time is short. General notions are dangerously wrong. I’m dismayed by the the extremely low level of critical analysis in the public debate. Even very smart people are being very stupid on this matter. As a result, the very existence of the country is put in grave danger.
I cannot understand whats going on here , I am an American Citizen and served in the Marines but if I used a social security number that was not mine , or a bogas bitrh cirtificate , I would be in prison yet this guy is doing it and everyone is aware of it and he continueing to thumb his nose at the US Constitution, as well as the citizens and all that has died to keep this countryt free !! Even if he is brought up before Congress for impeachment , ther will be no riots ,, the simple reason is the blacks are tired of his lies as are everyone else…Lets call for immediate impeachment now , If we wati we will be burdened with having to fight Obamac are and a lot of other lame acts he has signed with Presedential orders, Let stop makeing a mockary of our Country and it’s laws , While we are at it lets get rid of Biden, Pelost and a few others !!