Good day, fellow Americans. As we get closer to Election Day in November, a lot of you are wondering who you should vote for. The majority of Republicans are all ready to fall in line and vote for the Republican nominee, Mitt Romney. The majority of Democrats are ready to fall in line and back the current President, Barack Obama.
Most people aren’t happy with either candidate, but with Obama’s failed policies, many are ready to vote for Mitt Romney despite his record as governor. There are others who oppose Romney out of sheer spite for the Republican Party and are ready to vote for Barack Obama, perhaps not realizing that the two candidates share the exact same views. Considering all this, what are we all to do? Well, fear not; there is a 3rd option in this republic.
Most people aren’t aware of candidates’ voting records. They look right past them. All they see is what is on TV, and that is usually a guy in a fancy suit and tie with a big white pearly smile representing their so-called party and making promises of change, jobs, and economic recovery while telling the people how much of a wasteful spender the other guy is. They never get down to the real issues and never state how they are going to create that change. They just promise it.
Well, I promise everybody here a million dollars, but that doesn’t mean I have it, and it certainly doesn’t mean they’re going to get it. In fact, I believe what I’ve just done here is called “lying”, which is something you see in both parties, not just one or the other. They each have voting records to prove it.
If you were paying attention to the Republican debates earlier this year, you’d have clearly seen that Romney has admitted he supported the TARP Bailout, and he would have signed the NDAA as it stood. Not to mention Romney also has intentions to put tougher sanctions on Iran, a country that hasn’t attacked ANYBODY in over 200 years and send more money to foreign countries who are rallying against us, just as Obama and his Administration have done. So, where is the difference in these two candidates? The only arguments I’ve heard are that Romney is too rich and won’t release his tax returns, and Obama is a foreigner who refuses to release his birth certificate and various other forms of identification. Is this really enough of an argument to make anybody want to vote for these candidates? These seem to be junior high school debates! Hopefully not, and if not, then it’s time to look into another choice. Don’t simply throw your arms up in the air and scream “I’m not voting this year!”, or worse, “I’ll vote for the lesser of 2 evils.” They are both equally evil in this aspect.
So, who is this 3rd choice candidate I speak of? Well, his name is none other than Gary Johnson, the candidate for the Libertarian Party and a defender of the Constitution. Gary Johnson is working tirelessly to get into the national debates with Obama and Romney, with his name already on the ballot in 47 states. However, every corner he turns, the Republican Party is there to try and snub out Gary Johnson. Why? The answer is simple. Gary stands for the real change we all hope for.
Some real changes that could propel us to prosperity and freedom include returning to the gold standard, auditing the Federal Reserve (which Obama and Romney are both opposed to doing, although it was supposed to be a big part of the Republican platform), ending the war on drugs, bringing our troops home, strengthening our borders at home, equal rights to property and marriage, and putting an end to the corporate income tax system.
Anybody own a business that Obama claims you didn’t build? Gary not only says you built it, but you deserve to keep the profits from it as well!
These are just a few things he mentioned from a wide variety of problems facing our nation that he has a solution for. I’ve yet to hear this out of the mouth of either of the other two candidates.
If Romney and Obama really aren’t threatened by Gary Johnson, then why is each party trying so hard to keep him out of the national debates? It’s time for a real change, America! Anyone who says that voting 3rd party and for the libertarian candidate is just a waste of a vote really hasn’t done their homework. They are accustomed to watching a biased news station that will spin the facts of a story to favor their candidate.
If 51% of the people voted for Gary Johnson, how would that be a wasted vote? The only way he will receive 51% is if people actually listen to what he has to say for about 45 minutes and let him participate in the national debates coming up on October 3rd, 2012.
The choice is ours. The power is now in our hands, America! Do we continue on the path of the “same old- same old” where the two party system candidates barely have a lick of difference between them? Maybe it’s time to try something completely new… real freedom!
Learn more about the Libertarian Party. You just might be surprised at how closely the Libertarian worldview mirrors your own.
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Never has the very existence of our nation been in such peril as it is today (including The War Between the States, in my opinion). I respect your idealism but face it, the prospects of Gary Johnson geting 5% of the vote are slim, so please don’t talk about 51%. An Obama re-election spells doom for the nation. Please, a little pragmatism here: Romney (my last choice of all the Republican candidates) as president at least has the potential to be influenced by the populace and however many non-RINO’s we can get into Congress to do the right thing and he is obligated to repeal the country-destroying Obamacare. There really is no other rational choice, we must play with the hand we’ve been dealt, and if Gary Johnson had a real love for our country, he would withdraw and throw whatever support he has into backing Romney, even if you have to hold your nose.
Another mindless follower who is incapable of any real critical thinking. It is too bad for our nation that we are now filled to the brim with automatons like you.
When clifton showed his lack of any feeling towards our military and obama not letting our troops have live ammo I say that he is an evil person like obama and wants only his own needs met and nothing involved with our country except the give me factor that you libbers have….You should be ashamed and I bet if you told your neighbors that has a member in the military they would say the same thing…Obama is making our pilots train the Muslime terrorist for the same thing they did on 9/11 and you are evil too.
I am with the ConserDave GAry Johnson is trying to undermine the country and is acting terrible uncaring for any one that has any values as the libbers don’t they kill babies and want the taxpayers to pay for every thing….and we have no money ….But they think like this clifton who has nothing to say except mumbling and grumbling with no substance….as they have none….
Hope Johnson steps down soon as it is hurting us all…..Sounding like a photo opper….He should have come out a long time before …..if he thought about this …..Paul had a better chance then he does…
Sloegin,
As usual it seems that nobody who supports Romney really has a clear cut reason backed by evidence as to why they must get rid of Obama. You guys keep spewing the same old tired garbage, about how Obama is a Muslim ( Nut job excuse #1) or Obama is not a natural born citizen (Nut job theory #2), or Obama will destroy the country (Irrational and possibly racist reason #3). I know Obama is a socialist (hypocritical reason#4). I like to hear logical excuses backed by a little thing called rationality and facts. Gary Johnson is the right guy, and I now he is because you are not going to vote for him. That makes him pretty decent in my book, considering how you probably have not read anything of substance in years until you read this article. I hope your brain cell doesn’t get to hot, but it must be just whirring away after reading this article. Good for you.
It is you and conservadave who are undermining the country by trying to force people to vote against their conscience. I cannot believe that you even have the nerve to say that I have no substance. I am still waiting for somebody to explain to me what the substantive differences are between Barrack Obama and Mitt Romney. I suspect I will never get an answer because BS like Obama is is a Muslim is what I expect from low IQ troglodytes like yourselves.
I will tell you this. This “Clifton” is a Libertarian. I don’t want to pay for abortion, or social security for socialist fools who didn’t have the sense God gave them when they were young to put money away for their own retirement. I don’t want to pay for military incursions into countries who are no threat to us so some ignorant backwoods, racist redneck can get their rocks off on killing brown people. I don’t support the war on drugs, but I do have a problem with rape, murder, or theft. Mitt Romney is just like Barrack Obama but even more bloodthirsty believe it or not, and we cannot handle four years of Barrack Obama or his vanilla twin Romney because they both want to steal our money and kill innocent people. Now if you can take a second to stop drooling on your keyboard, I would appreciate it if you would go to amazon.com buy some books, and magazines on capitalism, and freedom, and then actually read them. It is stupid people like you two who make my life so hard almost everywhere I go.
“Gary Johnson is the right guy, and i now he is because you are not going to vote for him. That makes him pretty decent in my book,”
I’m sure your “now” is meant to be “know”…even if not, though…that’s some real “rationality and facts” you’ve got going there.
Your overuse of insults and name calling do not help your argument either. I’ll tell you this, though. There are many things that I agree with in both Paul Ryan and Gary Johnson. There are also many things that I don’t agree with. The one thing that truly turns me off off both of these guys, however, is their supporters.
@tlisi,
We turn you off? I think you don’t seem to understand. The reason you are not going to win in this election is because you turn us off. You dissed us all year, then you cheated at the convention, and when someone says “hey why don’t you take a look at Johnson” you swarm in here telling us a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama. We don’t need you fools. Sell propaganda and immoral somewhere else, we bought enough of it from you the last 20 years. One reason I am not a republican after 20 years of voting republican is because quite frankly you Neo Cons, Sell outs, and band wagoners turn me off and you did a long time ago. We don’t need you, and we have nothing to lose. You on the other hand need us, and you are losing the election one vote at a time as GOPer’s wake up and refuse to go back to sleep so they can vote for your horrible candidate. Take a few puffs of that Chief.
cliftonwknox, you are completely correct! I find it sad that I have to sift through all of these alternative news sites with all of these sub-mental hate-filled irrationals. These people who can spell half as well and they can think, and feel the feel the need to make up stories to validate their ill will, when the truth provides more than ample ammunition.
The Democrats and the GOP have completely sold out to huge monied interests who are successfully imposing their own brand of tyranny, while empowering their radical fringes to distract us with raging debates over overwrought trivia. It is ridiculous. So what choice do we have? Participate in a fake choice, or vote for what we know is right? Obama will neither end nor can he save our nation, and Romney, as an alternative, is a fake choice for the same bad policies (with a few minor tweaks to keep the distraction debates raging).
The Libertarian Party is the only choice. Gary johnson is a rational man, who can and will make rational decisions, with actual liberty and democracy as the core governing principle. The whole, “this is the wrong time” debate is fine and good, except, when is it the right time? It may already be too late.
Gary Johnson has my vote. If you think he is the best candidate, and you don’t vote for him, shame on you.
Spot on, ConservaDave…I couldn’t have said it better myself. Sometimes we are faced with a decision that we have to make for the protection of us…that time is now. I like Gary…and if he had done better all along the way, could have been a supporter of him. He did not: and I DO NOT want four more years of Mr. O, my vote, therefore, goes to Romney who, I believe, is a decent and good man, and will work everyday to try to make America what she once was.
ConservaDave has hit the nail on the head. Gary Johnson, Virgil Goode and all the rest are just going to suck votes from the Republican candidate. Each vote the Republican does not get might as well be cast for Obama. I don’t want to see the re-election of Obama, and I am sure you don’t either. So, please, do not waste your vote [and incidentally my vote] on third party candidates. If you need to hold your nose while voting, I can recommend a good clothespin. But VOTE FOR ROMNEY/RYAN, or the country loses. It’s important!
Have you ever considered the possibility that some of these third-party candidates might also suck votes away from Obama? I don’t understand your faulty logic of Obama getting each vote that Romney does not get. Please explain it to us who aren’t as wise as you that we supposedly need you to tell us who to vote for. I didn’t ask for your input on who to vote for. Obviously, conservatives only care about liberty up to a point; I’m sick of people thinking they know better than me regarding who to vote for or even not voting at all. They are just as elitist (at times) as the liberals they accuse of elitism. Talk about hypocrisy!
Oh dear, another automaton regurgitating useless political dogma, that was fed to them from their living room controller.
Amen….thanks for sharing….and notice this clifton and his embarrasing comments…..shows you what his mentality isn’t…..
Yes Sloegin, we see. I am fed up with brain washed fools. You know I am really glad that a part of your name here is Sloe. You did however spell it wrong. It spelled “S L O W”. Oh well what can I expect from a bunch of Neo Conservatives.
This election is the most important since they wrote the constitution. We have two ways to vote – with Obama or against Obama and we need 51% – we can’t afford any for anyone else. We get him out then we can begin to bring this country back around to God and Independance. The dealer gave us our cards and we must play our hand. With a Romney win, we can request a different dealer later. We can keep working for a better USA after we remove Obama.
I am curious how many hours a day do you watch fox news, and Glenn Beck? Do any of your opinions originate in your mind or are you completely dependent on televised news for your thoughts?
Well cliftton, since I lost my job two years ago and have run out of my unemployment I don’t have cable and that is the only way I would get tv….so you are wrong….and are you okay with our troops not having live ammo to fight against the violence that we sent our guys and gals overseas and you are okay with killing babies? I refuse to lower myself to your no substance but abuse toward humanity…showing you lack of intellligence Good bye..
Ahh Slow Gin,
Cheers!
As I matriculate through these posts I continue to notice you living up to the first part of your name. I am sorry you lost your job. I am rather impressed that you still have internet access. I bet you have a car, a refrigerator, even a phone. I had no idea that Obama sent our soldiers into combat with out ammunition. So I take it we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan with knives? I am even more impressed by the prowess of our military. I mean imagine that over 10 years in Afghanistan without bullets, no wonder we can’t win. I guess all of the “guys and Gals” are fighting on horseback as well? You know I am very angry you because you would think that for 750 Billion dollars we could buy a few bullets. I guess however when you are trying to kill everybody all over the world there would be shortages of ammo from time to time!
Sorry neo-cons, not this year, All support from Ron Paul supporters, independent voters, and Blue republicans is going behind Gary Johnson… Its you’re turn to follow us… Either vote Gary Johnson, and get him to 51% or enjoy an Obama presidency for another 4 years. The choice is yours. I WILL NOT VOTE ROMNEY and neither will my friends nor family… TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO WAKE UP
Then you are giving it to obama so why not just vote for him and save yourself the lies you are telling people….You don’t care that obama won’t let our troops have live ammo and you are okay with no God in our country as we have just seen the new coins with no God We Trust on them….Is it the religion? He is a Morman but obama is a Mulsim terroroist….and you should be ashamed that you don’t want any of these on your side….I remember when Kennedy was running and because he was a Catholic it was said that he would run the country….but you can consider yourself a baby killer and a terrorist too….And I really don’t think you want to be with some one like obama …do you have any idea how stupid you sound…We are a wake but it is losing we are afraid of and you are the problem for our country and not the solution. Go to Huffington Post you fit in with those people throwing your own self under the train…I don’t think any of the 3rd party candidates have ever won have they….and this is the most important time and you can be a stupid jerk some othe time but you need to get counseling….and your family too if they support not giving our people live ammo…..and you do…
Sorry Sloegin,
The republicans gave my vote to Obama when they cheated at the Republican Convention. I am voting for who I want to win, and if he loses so be it.
To those who claim that a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama: explain how a vote for Johnson magically becomes a vote for Obama after it is cast. What specific voter fraud is used to make that happen? Details, please.
In theory, if a party splits its votes between different candidates then the result will be a decrease for both of those candidates. The reduction of votes for one and the other means that there aren’t enough votes to gain the respective electoral college vote; ergo, the opposition wins…in other words, spliting the vote between candidates that hope to replace the incumbent (Obama) fail to do so and the respective electoral college representative votes for the opposition (it is in a literal sense, a vote for Obama).
If you actually think that your vote is a direct vote for your chosen candidate, I’m sorry to tell you that the reality is that you caste your vote for a candidate, but those ballots are counted at a local level and the winner of that is represented by the way that your particular electoral college representative votes on your behalf for the candidate that won the greatest amounts of votes in your local area. In turn, the electoral college votes are what formally elect the President.
Bangle,
I am sorry to say that it is not a literal vote for Obama. For many of us this year the Republican candidate is just not our guy. Asking us to vote for Romney is like us asking you to vote for Obama. He is not a true conservative or liberty candidate. From where many of us sit, a MItt Romney term as president is just as disastrous as an Obama term since they will both continue business as usual. Think about it; If I vote for somebody just as bad as Obama and it is against my principles then I have lost everything. I lose the election and I have lost my principles, and values. If I vote for Gary Johnson, even though Obama or Romney get elected I don’t lose everything. Since Obama and Romney are both bad candidates either one winning makes me a loser, but on the principles, I am winner because I am still a man of honor.
Sir, I’m not telling you to vote in which way. You asked a question and I answered, it boils down to the electoral college. Vote anyway you want, that’s your Constitutional right. Personally, I think that there has been a lot more mud slinging in this campaign than people realize, but that has only been extended as far as the candidates that we hear about on the news every day Romney & Obama. These other fringe candidates have received so little publicity, and done so little advertising that many Americans don’t even know who they are. Ergo, these guys could have just as bad of records as the ones you are pointing your finger at, or even worse; who knows? Not many have seriously looked into them. Due to those factors alone, it is highly unlikely that this particular cadidate would receive more than 5% of the total vote. However that translates to 5% less for the Republican candidate. Since 51% is needed, and discounting for the 5%, that leaves a potental 46%. That means for the Republican candidate to win he will need to receive an equal amount more votes to offset those voting for fringe candidates. This is a highly unlikely event to happen without voters that would usually tend to vote democratic, otherwise neither the Republican candidate nor the fringe candidate wins, putting the incumbent back into office.
Daniel…because it comes from the mouths of your own peeps:
“Sorry neo-cons, not this year, All support from Ron Paul supporters, independent voters, and Blue republicans is going behind Gary Johnson… Its you’re turn to follow us… Either vote Gary Johnson, and get him to 51% or enjoy an Obama presidency for another 4 years. The choice is yours. I WILL NOT VOTE ROMNEY and neither will my friends nor family… TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO WAKE UP” quote from ScottyElison
Scotty, you are sorry, you know, it would not surprise me if you were really for obama, boastng about how WE should wake up…….what a policy, I happen to be an independent, will always be now, but anyone who is so STUBBORN, that they would actually vote for a third party candidate is really wanting for obama to be elected. NO< it is NOT either gary or else, just remember your BULLHEADEDNESS is going to put obama back in and it will be YOUR fault that our country is completely destroyed by the commies now in power, The best thing to do would be to vote for Romney, THEN, when he is in, start campaining for your man or woman, and get out the passion of your candidate. Now is NOT the time to play spoiled BRAT. Oh and DAniel, if you cannot comprehend the very importance of this election and why, if you do not vote for Romney why is it a vote for obama, figure it out, Your prefered candidate does not stand a chance, can you comprehend that, the time to get backing for who you want would be better to now vote for Romney, because if obama gets back in, you can bet you bottom dollar this country will no longer have a Constitution, haven't you seen the famage obama has already done to that wonderful document, if you cannot, then I feel sorry for you, as you prefered candidate will NEVER have a chance of running again.
Hey, Independently…. shut up, and watch this video… Then come back and try to make logical sense of yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38
Scotty, NO I will NOT shut up, whats the matter you one of those macho men who think you can force YOUR views on me just because I am a woman, well guess what, I may be old, but it will take more than YOU to shut me up,,,,,,,,,,,,I read what was said, I do not agree with your Libertarian points of view, that is my right. If you think trying voting for him is so good, why the threats? Further more for you to think that Romney and Obama is the same shows your incapability to comprehend mere facts. I did not want Romney as a candidate, but, he will do much more for OUR country, while obama is the destroyer. Those are my thoughts, You do not like them fine,
I was wondering if you could explain to all of us what is so difference between Romney and Obama? What exactly Obama plans to do that will destroy the country. I need you to show some hard proof to back it up as well, because you know opinions are like a******s.
He’s SPENT more money than previous 43 presidents did in 233 previous years of government. He’s INCREASED our National Debt by 52% in 3.9 YEARS adding nearly $6 TRILLION in NEW DEBT. He was inaugurated with a $4.65 BILLION DEFICIT from Bush–added so MUCH DEBT through stimulus ($832 BILLION), Cash for Clunkers, cash for weatherproofing, etc–INCREASED that $4.65 BILLION to $1.4 TRILLION by end of first term–NEARLY 3 TIMES WORSE. It’s been TRILLION DEFICITS SINCE–he’s SPENDING a TRILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN FEDERAL GOVT. COLLECTS IN REVENUE. He has NOWHERE to go for more money–he will attempt to seize 401/Pension plans to nationalize for govt. use of those funds like the Social Security program–YOU will get IOU’s and YOU will not be able to withdraw YOUR OWN MONEY unless they allow you. He will attempt MASS AMNESTY, he’s already violated the U.S. Constitution–ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS UNDER CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY–the U.S. president has NO SAY–his “dream act” is clear violation of the separation of powers–Excecutive office has NO POWER to grant amnesty in immigration. “Under my administration, energy prices will NECESSARILY SKYROCKET”–OWEbumbler’s OWN WORDS–gas was $1.80 when he was elected, NOW $3.85-$4 a gallon because he’s VIOLATING Gulf oil drilling moratorium ruling from federal court by refusing drilling operations to continue, he’s REDUCED number of drilling permits, EXPANDED the amount of time taken to get permission, OBSTRUCTING the Keystone Pipeline that could add 20,000 JOBS for America and MORE OIL, he has NOT met with his JOBS council in over a year while his JOB council member, Jeff Immelt of GE, has closed a Waukesha, Wisconsin Xray lab and moved it to CHINA. GM received BILLIONS in the $80 BILLION auto BAILOUT–70% of autos built by GM are produced in foreign countries since the bailout–GM has MOVED 5 different production facilities to CHINA with their Research and Development Dept. the next phase to move to CHINA. He has the LEAST number of cabinet members with business experience than any president since Dwight Eisenhower and OWEbumbler HAS ZERO EXPERIENCE, it’s no wonder he can’t create JOBS or grow the economy–middle class families have LOST $4,000 in income SINCE THE RECOVERY “BEGAN”. America WILL NOT SURVIVE 4 more years of this corrupt, dishonest, deceitful administration.
Sigh, to start, have you seen what is going on with obama, he has a total LACK of respect for the meaning of our flag and our National Anthem, Obama was brought up with Communists, taught communism and marxism most of his life, He is an inexperienced person to be running this country, Have you not seen Communistic people he has on his boards, heck the Holder is a known commie, and obama named him to head the dOJ. and look at the damage he has done, To say nothing of the debt obama policies has put this country in, his always apologizing to our know enemies and insulting our allies. These are some of obama associates
After college Obama moved to Chicago to be part of the Jerry Kellman organization as a community organizer. [Kellman was a Saul Alinsky protege.] Among the primary goals of Alinsky was radical socialism and redistribution of wealth. Alinsky taught his proteges to “HIDE” their true goals by any means necessary. Lying was fine. The objective of Alinsky and Kellman was to turn people against the white establishment.
Ayers another associate of obama
This is an FBI Report on the Weather Underground Organization
This report details: WUO members’ extensive stays in Communist countries of Cuba, Vietnam and Russia; WUO’s goals to establish “world communism” and “overthrow capitalism” in “imperialist” America; murder conspiracy; involvement in US Vietnam-era Chicago riots; ties to the PLO, Quebec Liberation Front, SDS, Black Liberation Front and Black Panthers; meeting with North Vietnamese in Cuba; bomb factories; purchase of 50 pounds of dynamite; shooting down a US plane in Vietnam and wearing a necklace made of a piece of the plane’s fuselage; firing rifle shots into a Massachusetts Police Station; and a wide variety of other serious crimes and radical movements.
and then there are the obama promises, which he has not kept one of them.
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
NEVER HAPPENED
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
WHEN DID HE DO THAT?
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
5 DAYS,. HOW COME NO ONE HEARD ANY COMMENTS it was always snuck in as Executive order, congress not in session.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN, MORE PORK NOW THAN EVER.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
YAWN. yep
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”
HEALTH CARE ON CSPAN, NEVER HAPPENED, FORCED ON US.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration.”
NO LOBBYISTS? HA, THEY HAVE THE KEY TO THE WHITE HOUSE
“I’ll close Guantanamo.”
OK, but that is a minor problem, have to have somewhere to put the terrorists.
“I’ll resign if I don’t cut the deficit in half by the end of four years.”
NOW WE ALL KNOW HE DID NOT DO THAT EITHER, IN FACT HE TRIPLED IT IN TWO YEARS.
“I’ll unite the people of this great country.”
THIS COUNTRY IS NOW MORE DIVIDED THAN EVER.
NOW CAN YOU OBAMA LOVERS EXPLAIN WHY NONE OF THESE PROMISES WERE KEPT. NO YOU CANNOT.
· and what about TRIPLING the National Debt in two years.
do I go on,
sincerely
Sigh?!!? I ask for substance, you give a me the Obama story? You know if you took half the energy into some crap about where Obama has been, and grew up and read some books there is no telling where it could take you in life? Tell me exactly what Mitt Romney has proposed to do that is different from the current president? Oh yeah I know! He would have already started bombing Iran! So other than that he is white, and Obama is black. Both of them will keep the current welfare system in place. Romney isn’t going to completely repeal the healthcare law, and why should he, he designed it when he was the governor of Massachusetts. He is dead set on keeping the patriot act, and he will keep bombing anything that is brown. He likes the idea of a fascist police state and supports the patriot act, and NDAA. So he supports socialism, infringing on the bill of rights, constant and forever war all over the earth, and he likes much of the current healthcare law passed by Obama. So voting for Romney is going to save us how? What does he propose that is different? You guys are delusional at best. Coming on here with your crud about “A vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama”. It looks like to me a vote for Obama is a vote for Romney, or vice versa because you like everything Obama is doing. Your main problem is that a black democrat is doing it. When its a black Democrat “He is destroying the country!” Oh my god save us! If you can get a white Republican to do it then its a vote to “Save our country”. Get the hell out of here with your nutty crap.
A vote for a third party candidate in this election HANDS THE ELECTION TO BaROKE OWEbumbler. NO WAY Johnson can win, absolutely–take it to the bank and bet all your assets and potential future income, house, your wife and kids, even your pet. WHY would anyone consider casting a vote FOR a candidate that can’t win, but it represents a vote that WON’T elect an alternative to OWEbumbler? Ross Perot as a third party candidate handed the election and re-election to Bill Clinton, Ralph Nader got just enough votes in Fla. to keep GORE out of the WHouse–thank GOD, and Johnson will only help re-elect the WORST PRESIDENT IN OUR LIFETIMES. Just think about it–he’s given us 44 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS of 8% or higher UNEMPLOYMENT, 52% INCREASE IN NATIONAL DEBT in 3.9 YEARS, TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICITS for 4 CONSECUTIVE YEARS–what has he promised to do in the next 4 YEARS? He won’t tell you so I WILL: MASS AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS, HE WILL ATTEMPT TO SEIZE 401/RETIREMENT PLANS to convert to “GRA’S”–Government Retirement Accounts–FACT–two bills have already been introduced in Congress to accomplish this–he’ll use EXECUTIVE ORDER if he has to. MORE HUGE SPENDING/DEBT for Americans: Jan of 2013 YOUR income taxes will GO UP by 5%, $585 BILLION IN NEW TAXES COMING! HIGHER TAXES, energy, gas prices, groceries, EVERY PHASE OF LIFE!! Why would you sacrifice YOUR VOTE against OWEbumbler for a 3rd party candidate that CAN NOT WIN??
Are you sure we should change your name from “Shavager” to “Lemming”? Part of those problems came from Bush as well my friend, and to be honest I want proof not just your opinions on what he may do. As far as I am concerned I will get the same thing from Romney that I am getting from Obama. Show me something substantial not conjecture. Will Romney for instance, end our massive foreign interventions? Will Romney support auditing or ending the FED? Will Romney do away with the IRS? Will Romney work up a viable method to keep Social Security for those currently dependent while ending it for young people? What exactly is it that Romney will do that is so wonderful, because I have to tell you I am not interested in discussions about how Obama will destroy the country when every Republican president we have had has paved the way for this one. The truth is the Democrats and REPUBLICANS have been destroying this country for quite some time now. Don’t vomit the BS at me that was fed to you by Fox News, CNN or NBC News. I want to hear good critical thinking from you if you are going to change my mind. You are the problem here. You have sold your soul to the system, and you actually believe that voting for Romney can save our country. I have a secret to share with you. Romney is going to destroy our country as well. That is okay my friend, I chose the red pill, and apparently you chose the blue one. As far as who I vote for well that will be Gary Johnson because unlike you I have principles, and conscious. Those of you who vote for the lesser of two “evils” do not really understand what that is.
I can’t believe ANYONE would take votes away from someone who is running against Obama. It is over if he is re-elected. WAKE UP AMERICA. A vote for anyone else is a vote for dictatorship.
This whole exchange is a waste of time. Reasoning with you is like reasoning with an Alzheimer patient. You should probably just go back to bed and stay there, maybe watch the Flintstones or something.
I suggest you listen to the debates to get a clearer picture of what Romney will do.
A vote for Romney is a Vote for a Carbon Copy of Obama. Did you even watch the video? I bet not… You stick your head in the sand and speak out of your butt… You wake up.
scotty, is that all you can say because YOU cannot get someone to believe that piece of propaganda you posted, ok, if that is how you see, but for your information, I NEVER speak out of my butt, now that was a crass statement and just shows that YOU are the one that needs to wake up.
YOU NEVER DO WHAT!? Well, maybe not but you certainly need to get back on your medications.
How are those facts Propaganda? Do you even know what “propaganda” is?…. You just sound ignorant as all get out…
Scotty you are very rude..and I do not believe anyone really cares what you have to say. You think it is cute being a smart a** to others? Really? Get lost and find someone else to argue with. Or better yet- go look in the mirror and argue with yourself
Also, I;m not trying to force my views on you, You telling me that if I vote for Gary Johnson, I really allow Obama to win just shows your ignorance. What if I was a democrat voting for Gary Johnson, then would i not be taking a vote away from Obama? THINK! Do you really want to leave your grandchildren with debt and a world consistently at war? You really need to think before you speak. I told you to shut up because you are repeating what you hear on Fox News, Its not your mind actually thinking. Its you regurgitating whatever you hear on the Main Steam Media. I’m still waiting for a DIFFERENCE between Obama and Romney… Not just what Obama has done and why he is evil…. WE ALL KNOW THAT ALREADY! we are trying to tell YOU that Romney is the same thing….
The first requirement to be Democrat is to value big government, so the ideological stretch between Democrat (huge government) and Republican (limited government) is probably the most we can hope for. They aren’t going to stand in the ballot booth and think, “What should I do?” A Libertarian candidate, who represents even smaller government than the Republican party does, will not appear to be the answer to Liberals, so are we really going to get Democrats to vote Libertarian? The Democrats I know who are voting Republican are doing so TO GET RID OF OBAMA, not because they’ve converted! They’re not convinced that the Democrat party is lost for good. They just want Obama out. And they know very well that voting Libertarian won’t accomplish that goal.
Those voting Libertarian are a very eclectic and tiny minority who consider their vote to be like their money. They want to buy what they want to buy with their own money, since “It’s my money, dammit, and I don’t want to buy what the other two are selling,” without considering that they won’t get anything in return by voting Libertarian except the smug feeling that they “did it my way,” Sorry, but it’s a selfish perspective at this point. If you’re not going to get anything for your money/vote, then try to make sure someone else does get something of value for your money/vote. In the case of this election, you will be making sure that an entire country reaps the benefit of your contribution, rather than throwing it into soil that can’t grow anything that will crowd out the noxious weeds consuming the land. We’re going to see something grow after this election – a plan to destroy the country and turn it into something unrecognizable, or some reasonable effort to run it competently and responsibly as the United States of America. Romney wasn’t my first choice either, but maybe Romney is the only one who has the resources to beat Obama. He sure picked the right VP! Ryan has given true Republicans hope that his administration can come much closer to representing our values than Obama, who has spent four years trashing every single one of them along with the country he pretends to lead. I don’t even care what a Libertarian candidate stands for right now. He represents no hope for this country because he will NOT to elected to implement a single idea and he may steal valuable votes that could have meant the difference between destruction and survival for a once great nation.
Hey, in the midst of all your argue-fying about “splitting” votes, and all that, may I remind you of something? Does anyone remember ROSS PEROT? Does anyone remember how that turned out? Give that some thought, then get back to me about your Libertarian 3rd Party candidates. Don’t misunderstand me, I agree 92% with the Libertarian platform, and I have ABSOLUTELY no use for Mormons, but reality is what it is, so make the best of it. BTW: Romney/Ryan itself is not the answer, but getting a solid conservative majority in Congress that would be WILLING to actually reduce the size of government would go a long way towards realizing our goals. Remember, if gov’t wasn’t involved in so much crap, there would be fewer favors for sale….
I feel sure that everyone here understands that the President is not elected by a popular vote of the people, but rather by the number of votes he/she gets in the Electoral College. That procedure is mandated by the U.S. Constitution, and that procedure will remain in place unless/until the Constitution is properly amended per Article V and ratified by 2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of the States, and at this point in time, that process of amendment has not even been begun.
I have been a staunch Ron Paul supporter for over 20 years, and supported him with both my efforts and my money in his 2008 campaign and again in the 2012 campaign, and in spite of many people’s best efforts, Ron Paul is no longer a candidate in 2012 election unless someone wants to write his name in on their ballot, which will be a wasted ballot essentially.
As I stated, in 2008 I supported Ron Paul, and when the GOP failed to select him as its candidate, I refused to support the GOP candidate John McCain, considering him to be an Establishment, Big Government Neo-Con who had been in Washington long enough to be considered part of the existing problem, and therefore was not going to be part of any solution we may need. Therefore, I refused to once again be forced to vote for a “lesser of two evils”, and instead I decided to vote either for Bob Barr of the Libertarian Party or Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party.
As the 2008 election approached, I kept my eye on both the Libertarian and Constitution Parties, and much to my dismay, I found that as election time neared, only 45 of the 50 States intended to have Bob Barr’s name appear on their ballots, and only 36 of the 50 States were going to have Chuck Baldwin’s name on their ballots, making it statistically impossible for either of these Third Party candidates to be competetive. Nonetheless, since Bob Barr had a greater statistical chance than Chuck Baldwin, I voted for Bob Barr who ultimately received approximately 4% of the popular vote, and ZERO Electoral College votes. I realized then that as well-meaning as my intentions were, given the present status of Federal election laws, which, afterall, were written and passed by GOP and Democrat politicians to protect their chances of retaining their congressional seats, voting in a national presidential election under such laws meant that I had to select between the GOP candidate or the Democrat candidate, because no other candidate had a chance. The deck was stacked against Third Parties!
That being the case, let me ask those of you who refuse to support “the lesser of two evils”, which is obviously Mitt Romney, and insist on voting for an unelectable Third Party candidate such as Gary Johnson, HOW MANY ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES DO YOU REALISTICALLY PREDICT THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY WILL WIN IN THE 2012 ELECTION? Afterall, as the 2000 election between George W. Bush and Al Gore clearly showed, it matters not a whit who gets the most popular votes……only the Electoral College votes matter when it comes to winning the presidential election.
If you can be honest with yourself and recognize the fact that in the end, only the GOP or Democrat candidates are going to take any Electoral College votes, so only one of them will end up being President, what possible purpose other than as a political protest can come from voting for a Third Party or Write-In candidate. Frankly, Mickey Mouse as a Write-In candidate has a great a chance of election as does Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, or any other non-Democrat candidate, so a vote for ANYONE other than Mitt Romney is one less vote AGAINST Barack Obama.
My new credo is “Always vote for the most conservative candidate WHO HAS A REASONABLE CHANCE OF WINNING!”, and that is why, as much as I like Ron Paul, I will be voting for Mitt Romney, and will hope for a more conservative candidate to pick from in 2016.
What you fail to realize is if Obmney wins, you wont get a chance to pick another Conservative candidate in 2016. That was the whole point to the delegation rule change this year… Pretty much, if Romney becomes president, He can pick and select the delegates that show up at the RNC in the next election race. You people are so blind… If you were once opposed to the status quo, now isnt the time to give up and say HEY its time to vote for evil. Thats what sheeple do.