Gun Appreciation Day was celebrated by taking my youngest son to a gun show. He’s 13 years old; and his possessions include four firearms, a variety of knives, and some useless electronic devices. It is one of the larger shows that occur in my neck of the woods, and it is for a good cause: a fundraiser for the high school hockey team. The high school where it was held was packed shoulder to shoulder by the time we arrived. I didn’t really anticipate making a large purchase but stopped by the bank for some cash just in case I saw something that I couldn’t live without. We spent several hours perusing the tables, talking to vendors, seeing some old friends, and participating in a culture that progressives don’t believe in and liberals vilify.
I consider myself a novice collector of material possessions with varied interests. I am the constant deal seeker. I thought just maybe, I might find a 1911 to add to my collection. A knife with a double-edged blade and leather-bound handle caught my interest. I pulled it from its sheath and noticed a maker’s mark from England. It was about 16” in overall length and reminded me of something a British soldier used in a movie I saw once. It was WWII era, but not military, probably a personal weapon sold to a British soldier to augment their issued equipment. The knife had but one purpose: slide the flat blade between two ribs to the vital organs. It definitely met the cool, unique, and historical factor; but it was more than I wanted to spend, so I moved on. I was also looking for ammunition, as my supplies are dwindling; and I was planning on stocking up a bit. I didn’t make a purchase, unless you count the butterfly knife my son added to his personal collection. In all, it was a good show for a good cause.
I heard lots of people asking vendors about background checks and what information they reported back to the government on firearms sales. It got me thinking about a new term that is being used to describe a solution to the gun show loophole.
What does the phrase “universal background check” mean, and will it really close the gun show loophole? First, you have to believe that a loophole actually exists. I will speak to that in a minute. When a government official uses the term “universal background check”, they mean that prior to the transfer of personal property from one private individual to another, a background check would be required; or the act of such a transfer would be illegal. The only legal method to complete the transfer of ownership would be to visit a federal firearms dealer or to complete ATF Form 4473. The use of this form would associate a person with a firearm and store the transaction in a database, which is a whole different subject.
When I contemplated the possible abuses, my memory reverted to Randy Weaver, the abuses of the government, the resulting death of a federal agent and Randy’s son Sam, the standoff known as Ruby Ridge where the Weavers lived, the subsequent government-authorized murder of Randy’s wife Vickie, and then the ensuing trials. Would enforcement of Universal Background Checks include federal agents visiting yard sales, posing as upstanding private citizens with the intent of capturing private party gun sellers? Would history repeat itself with illegal warrants, standoffs, and death?
The term “gun show loophole” actually makes me angry. The media makes it seem like all these people are using a gun show to circumvent having to do a back groundcheck through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. Gun show or not, licensed dealers are required to do the same background check at a gun show that they have to do if they were at their store. Private citizens can rent tables at gun shows to buy, sell, and trade private property (no background check required).
So now the argument comes down to the ability of a private citizen to transfer property to another private citizen. It’s been going on for years at flea markets, swap meets, farmers markets, and gun shows. It is a right of ownership. It is legally owned private property, and the government has no place regulating it. Some states like California have a different view and require ATF Form 4473 for private party gun sales within their state. That is a states’ right issue covered under the 10th Amendment, so it is up to the people who live there to take exception to that state law and change it if they so desire.
So how is the Federal Government involved in what seems to be a state issue? How do they plan on finding the authority to regulate the transfer of private property? Generally, most federal gun laws are tied to the interstate commerce provisions. So unless the Federal Government forces states to pass the California Law, it really has no authority over private property transactions that do not meet the interstate commerce criteria.
The term “private property” means something to everyone. Our possessions are ours to do with as we please. No matter how valuable it is or how trivial it may seem to others, we possess it. The accumulation of assets starts at an early age, usually special little toys. Sometimes we trade them with our siblings or friends, and they become someone else’s property. If you have ever seen a homeless person pushing a shopping cart full of possessions down the street, you can understand that this human element is so instinctive in our nature that no matter what the circumstance, we all need to have something that we can call our own. It is mine, and you can’t have it, from the early days in our lives to our grave. Some people thrive at obtaining property. Others are content with the basics. We earn money to buy it and sometimes die protecting it. We eventually pass on our most prized possessions to our heirs, those whom we love, or those who we think will value and respect the property that we have accumulated.
From sandbox to grave, our possessions are ours. It is a principle of freedom: the right to own, trade, and barter your property for someone else’s goods or services; the right to leave your possessions to another upon your death; the right to gift property to a friend or loved one. It is a primal principle, a God-given right enshrined in our Constitution; so no government can infringe upon it, and no institution can tell you what to buy or what you can do with it. We need to look at closing the “executive order loophole” that is infringing upon our Second Amendment and personal property rights.
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VERY well written. I agree.
Well said.
I too am for “free enterprise” and think that a NICS check for PRIVATE sales is “invasive”. But right in my back yard on 12/24/2012 a CONVICTED FELON killed two firefighters with ILLEGALLY OBTAINED WEAPONS. It turns out a neighbor got these for him. SHE is going to spend some SERIOUS JAIL TIME! I hope! This being said, how do you determine that the “person” that approaches to at a gun show for a PRIVATE SALE isn’t a CONVICTED FELON? There are “means” on the Internet to check a person’s background providing of course they give you their ACTUAL identity. Is a “NICS Booth” at a gun show a “good idea”? Perhaps. Should it be “MANDATORY”? I’d have to say “NO!”. It goes back to “know who you are selling firearms to”.. KNOW THEM WELL!
excellent point, know who you are selling to, obviously felons do not have a tattoo on their forehead, but not all felons are restricted from owning a firearm. just like all felons are not restricted from voting. Your point about the firefighters is a good point in that the person who acquired the firearms broke the law when he took possession of them, the person who got him the firearms could also have broken the law depending on how she acquired them and under what means. My point here is that laws were already broken and didn’t stop the crimes that took place. Finally, if the seller at a show has any questions as to the integrity of a buyer, all he would have to do is ask one of the dealers to run the purchaser and transaction for him. Dealers and private collectors are always trading back and forth and usually are on a first name basis with each other or willing to help each other out.
Why are gun shows more enticing than a regular gun shop… They have guns there too and can order one if they dont have what you want. Is it cause you can bargain the gun shows down to a level you want to pay for a gun or what. Is it cause there are no papers to sign saying you bought it… What if someone at the show was selling a stolen gun… Aren’t you taking a change in buying such a gun.
Local Yokel answers some of the questions you have in the following post. Gun Shows are typically swap meets for guns. Some people bring guns to trade with vendors, or those people that rented a table, like at a flea market. Gun dealers do the same background check that they would do in their store. Private tables rented by private people are mostly people that buy, sell or collect firearms. People are go to shows to see and purchase firearms, parts, and ammo that is not always available in a store. You just cannot go in to a gun store and order a model 61 Winchester, or a Colt Python. Firearms have very unique characteristics, stocks, barrel lengths, grips, ect. Additionally, dealers rent tables to sell their wares, generally, no table is even remotely the same. Most private tables are respectable law abiding citizens and they can refuse to sell or make a deal based on their comfort level. Most criminals do not buy at gun shows, nor do they try to sell stolen firearms at gun shows. And finally, no you are not taking a chance if you know what you are buying. If not, stick to a gun dealer, pick a good one who will treat you right.
Finally, a lot of people go to look, remember history, or see something interesting. Why do people go to car shows or museums? It all depends on your interests. I hope this helps.
What one should consider is where they may stand when they have the option to either honor or cross a line drawn in the sand by patriots with honorable intent to survive.whether in uniform or not. The results of the next scheduled meeting of the CSPOA in February may offer council for a proper decision.
While reporting any stolen property to authorities cannot render you guiltless in it’s acquisition the act may well cause suspicion of withholding information and your having prior knowledge before the fact.and complicity in a felony.. Just keep in mind that both those having booths at gun shows and those attending the CSPOA are not likely to be at their first rodeo as you may be.. Perhaps perusing methods outlined in “The turner Diaries” could be of help in your personal survival guidance while questioning the integrity of others as suggested by your comment of uncertainty of motive of others enjoying the same constitutionally guaranteed rights available to you.