A pretty, young, auburn-haired woman – mid-20s – drove down a lonely country road somewhere in Oklahoma. Appearing in her rearview mirror, at the back windshield, were two menacing orbs of light floating amid ashen dusk. The guttural roar of a souped-up big block shook the tiny Volkswagen Rabbit as a van-load of inbred thugs lurched left and drew alongside her. A ponytailed passenger taunted inaudibly and blew foul kisses between crude hand gestures. He pointed for her to pull over as the van repeatedly swerved dangerously close.
Inside the car, a man, asleep in the reclining passenger seat, was startled awake by the commotion. He rose and darted his head about, calmly assessing the situation. This only spurred the evil-bent goons. As they ramped-up efforts to run the car off the road, the man reached in the glove box, withdrew a military-grade, semi-automatic handgun – an “assault weapon,” if you will – and, with intentionality and great theatre, leaned across his young bride, pointing the gun out the open bay and directly between dirt bag’s booze-flushed eyes.
Van vanished amid a plume of gray smoke as wheels locked, tires screeched, and “assault vehicle” fishtailed – jerking to a halt with taillights aglow skyward from the ditch.
Not a shot was fired.
Back at the couple’s rural farmhouse, two boys – boys who would not be orphaned that night – played. We most likely played – my brother Pete and I – with assault rifles fashioned from sticks. I always love to hear Dad retell the story. He does it with an ornery, satisfied grin. “No one’s taking my guns,” he’ll say.
This might be a good time for me to add that no one’s taking my guns either. Period. And if Dianne Feinstein orders me from her lofty perch on the left-coast to retroactively register them with some federal autocracy, I think I might just forget I even have them. Tens of millions of law-abiding, God-fearing Americans just like me and Dad, I suspect, feel the same way.
I love guns. Grew up with ‘em. As a former police officer with 12 years in the U.S. military, I know how to use them, too – use them well. I plan to buy more – a bunch more. In fact, who’s to say I don’t already have a veritable arsenal?
Point is, it ain’t Big Brother Barack’s nor any other candy-keistered-liberal-cream-
See, the left’s totalitarian brand of “gun control” has nothing to do with controlling guns – or bad guys. Rather, it has everything to do with controlling – disarming – the law-abiding masses. It’s not about protecting the innocents. It’s about rendering the innocents defenseless.
Clichés become clichés for a reason, and the old cliché “If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns” rings as true today as it did whenever it was that some homespun fellow coined it.
I was disgusted – physically sickened, in fact – when Barack Obama, president of these Divided States of America, shamelessly exploited the Sandy Hook memorial service to lay the groundwork for his unconstitutional gun-confiscation scheme. It was slimy to the extreme.
I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised. That’s what liberals do. Every time some evil nutjob – pumped full of psychotropic drugs by NEA members who don’t want to deal with them – shoots up the place, the left’s collective mouth begins to water.
“Now, finally, now!” they say, rubbing together soft hands that have never felt the surprising weight of a Sig Sauer 45. “This time we have the political momentum for sweeping gun control. This time the American people will roll over and let us trample the Second Amendment beneath jackbooted executive order or congressional fiat.”
“Let no good crisis go to waste,” right, Rahm?
Well, not so fast, cupcake. As the U.S. Constitution guarantees – and as the Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed – “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
It ain’t “should not be infringed” or “shall finally be infringed once ‘progressives’ have assumed total dominance.”
No, “shall not” means shall not.
There’s only one way to take my guns, slick, and that’s through a constitutional amendment – an amendment that will never happen – ever. Try it any other way, and we have a problem.
And this whole “assault weapons ban” angle? Sensationalist propaganda. I prefer to call them “defense weapons.” Contrary to left-wing revisionist pabulum, the Second Amendment’s not about squirrel hunting.
Notice a trend here? What do Sandy Hook Elementary, Aurora Colorado’s Century 16 theatre, and Columbine have in common? They’re all “gun free zones.”
Places you don’t see mass murder and mayhem? Well, there’s a reason bad guys largely avoid shooting up gun shows, ranges, households with signs that say “This home insured by Smith & Wesson”, and Texas in general. It’s because they know – even while thick-skulled liberals don’t – that, as recently noted by the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre, “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”
Oh, that rather than “gun free zone,” Sandy Hook had a sign reading: “Staff heavily armed and trained. Any attempts to harm those herein will be met with deadly force.” Might some of those beautiful babies have still died if the P.E. coach and four MP5-bearing teachers had ended the bloodshed soon after it began? Perhaps. But how many precious lives could have been saved?
No, you won’t disarm me. You’re not going to neuter my household and tear away my ability to defend my wife and precious babies like Dad did all those years ago.
I really, really hope this president and his authoritarian cohorts in Congress will slow down, take a deep breath, and realize that right now, they’re playing a very dangerous game of chicken. If they try what I think they might, but hope they don’t, I fear this nation – already on the precipice of widespread civil unrest and economic disaster – might finally spiral into utter chaos, into a second civil war.
But then again, that may be exactly what they have in mind.
Matt Barber (@jmattbarber on Twitter) is an attorney concentrating in constitutional law. He serves as Vice President of Liberty Counsel Action.
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There are people, the ELITE that wants these things to happen. They manipulate events and uses the circumstances stemming from them to justify their predetermined agendas and goals. The elite could have been satisfied with either Obama or Romney in office as they owned both of them. But it was Obama that could do the most in attaining and meeting their agenda’s goals. Needless to say, it makes sense that Obama could do more because of his color alone.
From this standpoint Obama has done you a favor. He has given the public the opportunity to question everything concerning the Federal Gov and question our own selves in the process. The elite knows this and knew this would be the results of Obama’s actions. Therefore it can easily concluded that the elite wants this country broken apart or that everyone fall in line and do as they are told. This is EXACTLY the general scheme of things concerning madman Lincoln’s War 150 years ago. The elite wanted the country broken apart because as one nation it would be far stronger than any other on earth.
The elite took disagreements from two sides or multiple sides and expounded upon them, aggravating problems far beyond rational minds would tolerate. They baited both sides with offers of loans and aid, one side flatly refused while the other agreed for a while to pay interest rates of over 30%. Eventually those loan sharks were turned away and the government started printing greenback with NO interest. The elite swore revenge and planned an assassination for repayment for the person they backed for so long that eventually turned them down. As for the other side, when they refused any money, saying they had all the money they needed, the elite with-held any promises of help or aid from other countries, because there were no loans to cover. That is why England and France stayed out of the war.
As you can probably gather by now, you know who the elite are. They didn’t completely separate a country then, but they severely crippled it. It was never the same and the US Constitution became a document to mean whatever those who had the power meant it to mean. It became a living document. So they must finish the job that was never fully completed. Or if you choose, you can simply say I won’t oppose them and do as you are told. Then, Maybe, you will be allowed to work as slaves for your new masters…
Doesn’t matter to me, I can be as good a slave as I can be a good master. You’ll disagree with my comments, yet you have no idea why the country ended up as it did, where it came form, where it currently is, or where it is heading.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Very simple and well said. Hoping others will read and be enlightened to those that believe in our God given right and the reinforcement by the 2nd Amendment so that we can resist any tyrannical Government.
Agreed. You know that guns only have two enemies, that being politicians and rust. It’s time to take our guns off the shelves, clean and oil them well and take care of the other problem. We gun owners have given in enough to the gun grabbing wipes. Our right to own full automatic weapons, background checks, waiting periods and registration just to name a few restrictions of our rights. NO MORE!
Arrest Soros, members of CFR, and about 95% of these
commies and neocons that have infected government.
They no longer serve the people or Constitution.
@TexasVetgal
Those people never served the Constitution or the people. They pretended to and many other people believes them. They actually serve the Khazar bankers, first, foremost and always. That is the heart of and root of your problems, the bankers.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
All data related to the targets of your blame is freely available on the same internet on which we converse. That brings up the subject of failure of TV networks that solely shape the opinions of the majority of the populace dependent on their half truths and omissions. It should be obvious that the once trusted watchdog of the government has totally abandoned it’s public master that continues to feed the undeserving beast through its advertising. Bonuses are provided by billionaires that supply them with a treasonous agenda. Once the greater enemy of the uninformed public is identified many more questions arise as to who, what, where, when while why is crystal clear.by event frequency and probabilitiy alone.
An even greater unavoidable concern should be evident by the recent concern over overweight kids that instigated the move to remove canned drink machines from grade schools. The data showing parallel rises in childhood obesity and sales of high fructose corn syrup laden drinks was long available here but the compiling and graphing to demonstrate the cause and effect was performed in India. Only a complicit media would deny that any data available to investigative reporters concerning kids health is at least as important to parents as the daily stock market reports.
All patient information from every US hospital is monitored by health insurance company statisticians as a matter of prudent business. The same compiled information on stress relief and psychotropic prescribed drugs will indict all complicit in just one arm of the conspiracy with nearly 100% involvement in serial and mass murders dating back 100 years. The tragedy is kept alive by one of the most influential lobbies on the hill. Involvement of those on the hill invested in the monopoly enterprises protected by both patent and legislated corrupt government oversight agencies guarantees it’s secrecy but where are the investigations by journalists? Are they any less guilty by negligence ?
Violent side effects among its military veterans treated for PTSD is justified only by its $2 billion plus military budget item and even twice that amount for public consumption. With token mention of any drug related liability in recent mass murders only more control is sought by the very government that stands convicted by evidence already available but where is the TV media?. Are they also at ease among the tax paid neurotics on the hill?
It has recently been demonstrated that hell itself can remain concealed by executive privilege while they gather more data to use against whomever they choose while twisting the intent of the US constitution section by section.
The very tax and defraud tactics employed by federal government against selected citizens today are the same as
as those preceding the War for Secession in 1861. With more than half the states petitioning for secession today
will another ensue? Or will the TV audience continue to be mesmerized by reporting of US citizens being killed or captured abroad while the government garrotte swiftly tightens around their necks right here at home? Attempting to prevent one is futile in view of the priority of the other but a complicit media would never notice the difference.
@LocalYokel
Of course all the information concerning the things I mention can be found on the Internet. Yet here we are and people will out-rightly reject these things I say or you say. And all they need do is take the time to look it up on the Internet at their convenience. Why can’t people accept the fact that the Khazar bankers and their minions are at the heart of all our problems. They control all the things you mention in your comments as well as most everything else. Yet all I hear, day after day is the same ole BS about Obama and politics about Republicans are gonna save you and the Democrats are gonna to destroy you…blah blah blah….. and the poor souls won’t accept the fact that the bankers OWNS both parties, lock, stock and barrel.
I find it sad that people who claim to be so patriotic, wanting to do good, has so little time to actually focus on where their real problems lies. They would rather blame anything and make their own scapegoats rather than band together and attack the real foe.
The gun control debates while very important is actually a feign, a diversion away from the root causes of the problems. So is the Obama issues concerning healthcare and his own citizenship status being a legal president, plus many other things. All these things takes the pressure off where it actually needs to be directed, which are towards the Khazar bankers, specifically the Federal Reserve. If the people really and truly wants their country back for good, there is ONLY way to start taking it back correctly, and that is to KICK the bankers out, once and for all. Destroy the Federal Reserve and it will free much more than you realize.
My ancestor Andrew Jackson was once asked; what he thought was his greatest or proudest moment as president? Do you know what his reply was? I’ll tell’ya! He said it was when he got the American people their country back by kicking out the bankers. Does that tell you or anyone anything?
I ain’t your president. I wouldn’t have the job as it is beneath my dignity. I ain’t no Andrew Jackson either, but I can show you how to get your country back. Unfortunately most people will not accept the responsibilities needed, nor the attacks given in return for doing the right things. People does not want to be labeled and stereotyped as being against anything or anyone. People are too dumbed down to rationalize the logic needed to properly attack their opponents. They simply lack moral fortitude. The bankers knows this. They planned the dumbing down of America on purpose. Now you have no choice but to live with the results.
It is said government is the reflection of the people who elected it and I believe that to be so. That is also a good indicator of the mentality and spirituality of the country, and it all came from being purposely dumbed down. You have no choice but to live with the results or force your yourselves onto the ignorant for everyone’s benefit. But what you do concerning the bankers will decide determine what is to become of everything else.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
The Tuscon, Aurora, and Newtown shootings were all staged events to start the process of usurpation of our second amendment rights…the first amendment has been weakened greatly already, along with many others. Google Sandy Hook hoax and find a huge amount of info, including more than you ever imagined…
I’m not sure that they’re ready for civil war, but they’re close, much closer than the American people are, many of whom are still asleep. (Check the WND poll about more than 70% of the population seeing no problem with ‘law enforcement’ having military style equipment. However, with gun sales increasing, I have a hard time believing it.)
Okay, I’ll admit that I have been at odds with most of the people making comments on this website. At times, I have even been beligerant in my responses. However, most of you reading this must surely disagree with what this guy just said. He is claiming the whole Sany Hook incident is a hoax! Is anybody else here disturbed by that claim? Please tell me yes!
@subhub35
FormerLefty will testify to the fact that we also had a bad disagreement at first. Myself and another or two also claimed he wasn’t converted from being a lefty yet. Yet if you read FormerLefty’s and my recent posts, you will note we are on somewhat of the same wavelength. He’s learning and trying to apply himself. He’s being open minded enuff to explore other possibilities with keeping dogmatic viewpoints as you do. He is actually exploring the possibilities and shows a OPEN mind, NOT a closed one. It is his decision to conclude what he does from how thoroughly he studies the situation and how fairly he judges it according to his mind and standards. In order to do this he must have some basis and foundation for accepting Universal truths and Law’s of Nature that does not change. You are failing to accept and apply these things.
So NO I have absolutely NO problem in saying Sandy Hook is a hoax. Oh I believe people got killed and that at least one person did the shooting. But I know there is much more to it than the regular news media is letting out. I also know the government is connected to it, although I don’t think they purposely planned and targeted that school specifically. I am afraid you are gonna be disappointed in realizing the fact that most all the people here will share my sentiments more than yours. Like whick1 told you, read a lot, I mean a lot, and study much before you go making quick assertions you cannot defend. You’re talking from the standpoint of emotions, feelings and passion, leaving out all forms of logic and commonsense.
And NO, I am not gonna start answering your questions about logic and commonsense, except to say they are based on Universal truths which is the basis of morality, which gives use moral fortitude and commonsense, of which when a person knows all these things and understands how to apply them to new and vastly differing situations, then he also has developed wisdom, which takes years and years of study and practice.)
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
I believe these shootings are carried out by Nutjobs on Medications, or mentally disturbed People.
The Government however is right there to capitalize on the event.
Obama and his admin absolutely setup the Benghazi Fiasco to attempt to do a Hostage trade Blind Sheik/ Chris Stevens, it all went south when 2 Seals on a different missions intercepted the calls for help and responded, therby turning the plan on its head. Obama and his corruptocrats dare not respond with say a “C130 gunship” as they would be outed in their plan. So Obama sat on his hands and watched our People get Slaughterd. He is a Traitor, either way. He chose to do business with our sworn enemies, Just because Valerie Jarrett or Huma Abedin (Hillery’s Saudi muslim brotherhood connection says its ok, DOES NOT make it ok. They should all be brought down and charged for their crimes. Sedition, and or Treason. The fact that Nixon’s people could go to Prison for a Burglary, while these Miscreants can betry Amercian Secrets and collude with the Enemy, should tell every Amercian that our Government is “OFF THE RAILS CORRUPT”!
Every Governor and ever Sheriff and every patriotic citizen should DEMAND the LAW be upheld.
This is a Criminal Enterprise, not a Government, and I as an Oath Keeper and Veteran, am ashamed to call my self an American under the Despotic and Criminal Rule of this Scum in our Government.
I don’t think it’s a hoax, but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to discover that it occurred with some government involvement, just like Benghazi! With Sandy Hook, it was a well known fact that Adam was a problem and his mother was trying to have him committed. But the laws regarding institutionalizing an adult are geared toward protecting the sick person, not the public.
Concentrate on FEB 15th at SCOTUS PUT all your energy towards prayer, barring SATAN and his minions from the court, so that TRUTH prevails. Afterwards, we can spend the next few years sorting out these others.
@FormerLefty
Great reminder to everyone about looking at the Sandy Hook Hoax. I’ve seen it already and had already concluded much of that before the video. Liberals loves to use children in order to play on the emotions and sympathies of adults. That is a very immoral thing to do in itself. It takes the needed logic to properly understand something and pushes it aside, and that is immoral!
They’re ready for a civil war but they as anyone always hopes to accomplish more before it starts in order to help ensure victory. It is paramount that we take the war to them, but ya’ll won’t listen as to how. ATTACK the bankers, the Khazars and their minions. Start this by an all out assault on the Federal Reserve. Attack anything related to it and them. That is taking the war to them and they become very uncomfortable with that. It will force them to play their cards faster…
I’ve told you the truth in as short a way as possible here. One can question my motives and comments all they wish, until Hades freezes over and it won’t change the truth of the matter. ALL the information is available for one to read in verifying this if they are really concerned enuff and doubt what I say. But with my love and devotion to history, spending my entire life devoted to its’ study and for over 50 years, I think I know just enuff to make the statements I just did above.
I have posted this before, but will again because of its’ importance. It is a short, quick reference guide and history of the International Bankers, including a PowerPoint presentation on the Rothschilds.
Be sure and view all this, as it is one of the most important pieces of works you will ever read concerning your problems today.
Here:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Do you not have any respect for human life, Mike? Pull your head out and look around every once in a while.
@subhub35
I respect human life enuff to know that I would take a human life in order to preserve human life. Meaning I know in order to remain free and to have a life, I must also defend life; and that sometimes means taking the life of another human. I also know that this can also concern groups of people and governments controlled by bad people. Therefore I also know good people MUST be fully armed in order as a last ditch effort in saving life, that sometimes many lives and even governments must be destroyed. This is something you cannot fathom to understand, all because your basis of understanding lies in non-universal truths with no basis of anything ever staying true. therefore you base your beliefs on man’s abilities to attain the truth by letting him determine it, and this will always be subject to change. Therefore you have no basis to state anything of any lasting value. In short you are placing your faith in humanism. Get mad if you wish, but the facts speak for themselves.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
So it is “good people” you are trying to protect? What about the Constitution, Mike? I thought you were fighting for that. If John Locke rose from his grave and disagreed with your preaching, would you shoot him too? The most fundamental value of the American way of life has always been that we all have the right to living our lives the way we see fit, so long as it does not threaten our neighbors’ rights. You regurgitate pre Civil War rhetoric in an effort to add levity to your arguement. You claim to have an understanding of our nation’s most important documents, but all you do is pick and choose those parts that fall in line with your arguement. In another comment, you defended Formerlyleft and his claim that all those shootings were a hoax. That’s what he said, Mike, a hoax. You went on to claim that, although you believe they happened, you think it is a big conspiracy. Big surprise there, Mike. Why, do you suppose, would a Democratic-run government target such a strongly Democratic area for such an act? I’m sure you have an answer for that too. You say I should be open-minded when it is you who are spewing witless hatred. You talk like you are an authority. You are one voice, Mike,just like me. There are people in this country who agree with you, but there are many more who do not. Have you considered relocating? After all, it doesn’t seem to be “your nation” anymore. In fact, it never was.
@subhub35
You know, I’ve done figured you out by your last post. You are nothing but an antagonist here to disrupt otherwise like-minded people. I clearly see this in you as you show ABSOLUTELY NO intent of trying to consider anything anyone else has to say to say, except to criticize them. This another tactic specifically used by the Marxist, and you are doing a fair job of it, except it ain’t working on me or many others here.
You have no intentions of changing or wanting to learn anything other than espousing and testing your own dogmatic views by setting up strawmen and attacking them while inferring the attacks on those you oppose.
Previously I had written you in hopes of giving you the benefit of a doubt and I did. And you proved yourself for what you really are. And I wrote in order that others may learn how to identify and deal with tripe like yourself. And I would still continue to demonstrate this to others if they felt they needed to learn more. Other-wise this is my last post to you, as it wastes my time put to better efforts unless someone requests more form me (Not you) So good riddance, go test your your superior faith somewhere else and show your ignorance. I have no time for trouble makers…
G-day….
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
In your mind, anyone who does not consent to your way of thinking is an antagonist. I consider all rational viewpoints, and most of yours are not. I don’t have to set up strawmen, Mike. Your viewpoints are narrow, offensive, and hypocritical. I am simply giving you a reality check.
You don’t have the knowledge, ability, morality, commonsense, judgement, much less the wisdom to give me or anyone here a reality check. You are a completely packaged troll. But then again you thrive on these mud slinging contests. So I know you have no mentality other than to keep the BS crap flying writing back… Get over it, people here has already figured you out…
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
SubHub. Save yout reality chech for your progeny. They’ll need it if they hang around you very long.
When you have become aware of government propaganda employed to arouse public approval of US entry into WW I and its continued application through WW II,, Dallas, Waco, Oklahoma City and the Clinton blood trail to the white house it should be easier for you to seek documentation of proof of anything they present as truth with little objection by the TV media once considered to be the responsible watchdog of government. Hence the GFY attitude of both past and present administrations.
With endless biased ideology pushed by their front line TV media it is now easier than it once was to predict where their next international distraction will occur while they practice their customary acts of treason on the hill. Brazen defensive accusations and belligerent proclamations of direct threat of continuance have become their trademark. THey’re meerly remembering their unavoidable grave sites.
The only subversives that you don’t need to anticipate penned their directives in the early seventeenth century but their security is arranged in as many as five concentric circles with minimal overlap. They have continued to enjoy their success at the expense of future US citizenry by recent .bailouts and increased Federal Reserve participation in dollar devaluation when it was already down 95% since 1913. All that is easily recognizable are their chosen mouthpiece lawyers that strive to hide their revealing money trail. Having already accrued 85% of total world wealth their goal becomes population control. After all you’re breathing up their air.
The passing of the inflationary federal reserve act was complimentary to the graduated design of IRS tax code provided by the sixteenth amendment. The income tax was proposed as tax on investment income exceeding $700/ year was soon interpreted to include all wages complete with payroll deduction providing corporations with interest free investment money collected weekly and paid quarterly. High court judges have continued to warp constitutional intent to produce the kickback money they desire.
Do I distrust the government? Let me count the ways! The DEA alone had seized over $1 billion in cash and property without any filed charges 15 years ago because of the wording in its operations procedure allowing any funds derived from their activity to be used to further their cause.—–or comfort. It’s primary effects have been to provide plots for TV entertainment and fill the jails to capacity piling yet more expense on an overloaded public.
Grab a search engine and dive in. When it gets dull they just enact another debacle with some poetic name and 2000 pages to hide both its money trail and overreach until the garrotte tightens around it’s victims necks..
I’m guessing LocalYokel is your real name. Congratulations for being able to surf the internet. Have you ever tried reading something without looking for a conspiracy? I have no doubt the government does many things of which I would not approve. It is a big government, and could be better operated in so many ways. Having said that, who in the world does it better? Tell me that, LocalYokel. Just because you are convinced the government has done wrong does not mean you should start assuming the government can only do wrong. You use a lot of statistics, but you do not justify or cite any of them. You just expect people to take your word for it. Maybe the fact that you cannot make a sensible arguement is yet another government conspiracy theory. It’s in the cheese you are eating. Mike, I can tell you are starting to like me.
Yes Mike, I’m pretty sure most of us here understand that most of these crisis are planned and perpetrated to cause such a deserved response in hopes that it will bring an unorganized knee-jerk reaction to the continued attacks on our Constitution and rights, assuming it would fail miserably and take most of the wind out of our sails and the fear of bloody death and defeat would settle in and their evil agendas will rule uncontested beyond that point. BUT WAIT!, what they’re not counting on are the preparedness of those who will exact such a toll on these usurpers and their forces as to make Gettysburg battlefield look like a schoolyard brawl. Unfortunately, civil war looks to be the only thing that these wanna-be dictators will understand. So-be-it! Let’s put an end to this usurpation NOW!
VERY well SAID! have NOT heard it articulated better!
We ‘ant’ ended yet. So you go ahead and be what you want to be, but I choose liberty and will continute to choose it unitl I draw my last breath. I am not alone.
Best article I’ve read in a long time. I could read it over and over. Let’s start picking on the Democrats and see how they like it. Make their stupidity very public. Loud and clear.
Does anyone realize how many people died in the civil war, or how it devistated this country? Using the term “Civil War Brewing” as a headline is inflammitory at best. We are not headed for a civil war, nor are we even remotely close. Gun control is not a simple black and white issue. Why can we not have some gun control, while maintaining our personal freedoms? I own a handgun, but I will never have need for a 50+ clip. I own a rifle, but I will never have need for a sniper or assault rifle. Does nobody else see the grey area? Must it really be all or nothing?
You sound like you might have a little sense, under your liberal brainwashing. Please spend A little time studying the Parallels between obama and Hitler, and the way the Germans were led down the primrose path.
Study all the actions of this administration, the fast and furious, GM take over, bengazi, obama’s now proven past, his nationality, his actions regarding foreign policy, and come back, lets talk.
I am not a liberal, Whick1. Are you threatened by people who disagree with you, or do you just posess the rare wisdom to know a person’s entire political perspective based on a few lines of text? Did you ever notice how horoscopes always seem to pertain to the people they are about? There are parallels between all things, past and present, if you take the time to look for them. How about you mark down this date on your calendar. Four years from now, look back at this issue and see how many of the “doomsday prophesies” have come true.
SIR you are ignorant AND offensive Study the points I suggested, if you work 8 hours a day, should take about 4 days, and come back with a rational argument, or not at all.
Whick1….excellent suggestion. Also keep in mind, we are not independent anymore…… google New World Order.
@subhub35
You stated the typical liberal response on ALL counts.
Yes it’s a brewing. Yes, it is very real and very close.
The low estimate of 620,000 deaths from madman Lincoln’s war will
PALE in comparison the one coming.
Yes it is as simple as black and white.
It’s not a matter of me needing a 50 round magazine, nor anyone else
needing one. It is a matter of simply, IF we want one!
You don’t need a lot of things, fancy homes, fancy cars, fancy toys,
fancy knives, but most everyone wants one. And everyone of those things
can be used to hurt people. It’s not the object that’s the problem, it’s
the person behind the object.
So you spoke like a true liberal…
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
It’s funny, Mike. I realize you are a different person, but what you said sounded exactly like what Whick1 said. Could it be that the two of you solicit the same solitary media source? You make a good point about the toys, though. They can be very dangerous when in the hands of a mass-lego-er. So your solution is to have no rules on guns, right? We are granted the freedom of speech, yet there are limitations to what a person can do because of how it could affect another citizen (protecting that citizen’s rights). Making an issue black and white means you don’t have to think about it, or listen to someone else’s opinion. Way to make it easy on yourself.
@subhub35
OK I’ll give you the benefit of a doubt and assume you’re telling the truth that you’re not liberal. That being said:
Whick1 and I are not the same person, but we share something, many things that makes us closely related in our faiths and beliefs. This process involves setting standards based on Universal Truths, or Inalienable Rights of man. Because our core basis of faith and beliefs are closely related and we’ve studied many of the same things over the years we can independently reach the same conclusions, over and over again, not only this but many things. It is something the humanist, liberal and Marxists have never been able to comprehend or explain. I read in your comments that you have MUCH difficulty in coming anywhere near to the same conclusions we did, people like myself and whick1, therefore it became apparent you had no solid moral basis, meaning no understandings of Inalienable Rights or Natural Rights in making your statements. This is a sign that the person is either a atheist, humanist, liberal, Marxist or anything other than believing in God or the Natural Rights and Laws that govern nature and man. That is why I called you a liberal. That is also why whick1 was giving you a hard time.
At best, since you *think* you are conservative, you *may* be a NEO-Conservative, but that is not a true conservative. As whick1 said, study for a few and then come back. Although I am still willing to give you the benefit of a doubt now, IF you ask me direct questions instead of stating your opinions.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
And now you are calling me an atheist. You are right about one thing, Mike. You and I come from a different school of thought. Are you this arrogant about everything, or just politics? Must be easy to coast through life, with God on your side, convinced you are never wrong. If only I went to church as much as you do.
@subhub3
No, I am not directly calling you an atheist. However I am saying YOU do NOT show true Christian knowledge and understanding as it applies to morality and God given rights, which are also Inalienable Rights and Natural Rights, or Universal Truths. ALL of which comes under the “Law’s of Nature and of Nature’s God”. Read John Locke concerning this. He is also the MAIN inspiration for the Declaration of Independence, The Articles of Confederation and the US Constitution. That would mean you *could* or *could not* be an atheist and I wouldn’t know any different.
You can’t weasel out by denying that you know nothing of what I speak. Fore, by you not knowing, you show you don’t know how to address simple issues such as, Christian morals, Inalienable Rights, Law’s of Nature, Natural Law, Universal Truths and self-determination. And you know too little concerning Scriptures to put any of it together.
You can call yourself anything you like, and you can fool yourself into believing it. But what you practice, the religion you practice, shows you to be a far different person. (Your religion, or one’s religion they practice, is the faith they have which is shown by their works.. What they say, do and act…etc…physically. Even atheists practices a religion. See the O’Reilly show a couple weeks back where Bill debates the president of the American Atheists Association. To satisfy your doubts about what I just said.)
Michael–Deo Vindicabamur
I had a LADY educate me the other day- The word is una LIEN able
As a lawyer, that should be ALL you need.
@whick1
—LOL— The point is taken.. It gets across either way. But I do prefer my Southern slang. After all, Southern inbreds are somewhat lacking..
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
I have been following this discussion, and you are lacking NOTHING I can see.
@whick1
Well gee, I’m at a loss for words……….
Seriously, at most places I go, I’m a thread closer. I post and the thread is then closed. Or at best I’ll get a couple of half baked responses or those who just drink the Marxist Kool-Aid. I’ve been banned every major newspaper in my locality, with one of the editors calling me a terrorist. I’ve done a couple of news blips for TV and they were never aired. It was just too much for them to counter. I closed one thread today in Memphis newspaper. One post this morning and nothing since. Well I got one positive reply saying it was not possible for the NAACP and their supporters to comment against, as it was too condemning and accurate. I cover much more than just gun issues. When this over and we survive, I want ONE thing, I want my state and any state to simply be able to up and leave this united states forced union, no questions asked. I simply want the country (it’s not a nation any more) broken up for all our benefit. You can’t be free unless you’re free to leave……. And I didn’t sign anything stating I was in any union forever.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
.You have been posting to the libtards, they consist of the majority, unfortunately, due to unceasing propagandizing and the schools being taken over by the most extreme, indoctrinating our young minds filled with mush, as rush says. Plus, nobody cares, they go into the polls with NO information except political ads.
WE need to get back to a form of voting that allows ONLY people who care, have a stake in it, for instance requiring voters to be property OWNERS, free and clear, not mortgaged to the hilt, and pay a poll fee big enough to ensure only those who care enough to find out what they are doing to vote.. If you have a platform, can reach people, PLEASE inform them what is happening on FEB 15th, as the media are trying their best to make sure nobody knows
@whick1
I agree with you about the voting and taxes. However this will NEVER change until the government is forcefully changed. And then the state governments will have to be changed also in order to enact proper voting laws. None of this stands the remotest chance of happening with the government we now have. It’s not just the politicians that will oppose this, but the those people getting the free ride and this has been in effect for so long it has become accepted as the norm that such people be allowed to vote. And we’re not gonna change educate people into believing different because this is not a matter of knowledge but a matter of greed, lust and power and money. You definitely can’t educate sin out of a person. As I’ve said years ago, evil only understands one thing, the muzzle of a gun! Or you can say brute force… And that is what you’re up against.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
I hate to be a Pessimist But I agree we cannot change it at the voting booth, and short of a military coop- that is all we have. I think we are in the last days, and things are going to get very bad very quickly.
You up on bible prophecy?
@whick1
YUP, up on my Bible prophecy. Bible study is actually a type of historical study. I’ve read it through before and study daily. But I don’t study in the modern sense. I’m too old school for that… I try and avoid any commentaries less than 200 years old… Nothing really holding us back concerning Bible prophecy. What’s lacking can be concluded in a few days time.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
I AGREE! pleasure meeting a like-minded individual- GOD BLESS you and yours!
I use the king James version- that is what I was raised on. Sometimes I read commentary in a study bible- But I don’t really accept them as authorities, if they disagree with What the Holy spirit is revealing to me. I trust myself, my understanding, more than what anybody tells me. Jesus said HE (the Holy Spirit) will reveal all truth to me. and He would bring to mind all things God has said to me- I have hidden God’s word in my heart, and I trust it above everything.
We don’t want to inflame the people who are trying to destroy our country. We just want them to know what they are up against if they try to take our freedoms. You have to be ready to fight if it comes to that. I served in this country’s military to preserve the freedoms we enjoyed, and those freedoms are eroding every day from a domestic enemy that has been taking over while we were concentrating on the foreign enemies.
How about just having “some” Freedom of Speech, oh, maybe saying something against your local dog catcher is OK, but Obama and the Congress is off limits.
Or how about “some” Freedom of Religion, like , you can be a Muslim or Buddhist, but Christianity and Judaism are not OK.
Or maybe “some” Freedom of the Press, like New York Times, and CBS, but no others.
Or how about “some” Freedom to be secure in your property. You get to be searched every day, have soldiers living in your house, can be tortured until you confess to something, but they won’t be able to do that to me.
Do your rifle and your handgun have the ability to hold more than one bullet? If so, it is considered an assault weapon by the authorities. Turn it in now and avoid the rush. Assault weapon is a made-up term for a gun holding more than one bullet.
The Constitution is printed in black and white, there is no grey area. All or nothing has worked for over 220 years, and I see no reason to change it now.
There is nothing wrong with critisizing the president, or anyone else. This website is glaring proof of that. On the Constitution being “black and white”, you might want to look up the definition of “amendment”. This whole discussion is based on one, and there are several others. Each has addressed an important issue of its’ given time period. So you think the right to bear arms means there should be no oversight of weapons or ammunition? What about violent offenders, or the mentally ill? Shouldn’t they have the right to assault rifles? And your comment about firearms holding more than one bullet is false. Even the New York legislation, which I disagree with by the way, limits the number of bullets to be seven. This includes the vast majority of handguns and shotguns. You are being reactionary. I respect your opinion, but you need to listen to people before you discount them.
The US Constitution was NEVER originally meant to let everyone vote. It was originally a State’s Rights issue. This is the reason we’ve had Poll Taxes and Jim Crow laws in the past, and they varied from state to state, including the North. Each state was to determine qualifications for voting. Anyone restricted from voting would not have that right, which can also be applied in other areas. If a person is deemed mentally incompetent to vote, then it is only natural they could be restricted from gun ownership. What is to be determined is the mental capacity needed to disqualify one from voting and if the voters or legislatures wanted, this could be applied to gun ownership or anything else concerning Constitutional Rights. This is also why convicted felons are not normally allowed to vote and also why they are not allowed to own firearms. And this is still an issue that is left to the states although the Feds are considering actions in this area also. Same applies to minors. None of which enjoys FULL Constitutional protection/participation.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
I do not trust Obama or the people that back him. They do not have any morals from what I’ve seen, and power is their god. A President like Ronald Reagan might get some gun control support, but Ronald Reagan would never ask citizens to do that. Obama is EVIL…I do NOT TRUST him and give them an inch and they take a mile. It will continue to progress until you no longer have a pistol or a rifle (single shot). Obama is EVIL and I think wants to be DICTATOR. Are you willing to take the chance with your freedom that I’m wrong?
Unfortunately, subhub35, what you call an assault rifle or a sniper rifle are home protection and deer rifles to the vast majority of hunters where I come from. Virtually all fire cartridges vastly more powerful than the “high powered” .223 round fired by the AR-15 or even the 7.62X39mm AK-47 round. In fact the .223 is considered suitable for groundhog sized animals and even the bugger .243 is considered on the small size for local deer. What firearm ignorant people fail to comprehend is all these thousands of laws will only be obeyed by people who would never even consider murderous acts while the real criminals could care less how many laws you burden us with. All they accomplish is insuring the helplessness of the law-abiding. Just another serious of “safety in the workplace” laws favoring those who, by definition, do not obey laws. To paraphrase the definition of insanity all over again: To pass proven failed laws over and over again but expect a different result each time.
The one single most dangerous weapon any person can own is a shotgun holding 5 rounds. Just a normal hunting shotgun is MORE dangerous than any weapon *called* and assault weapon. I can point you videos on youtube that easily demonstrates this. The whole firearms debate is a sham, just being ONE step in banning and confiscating ALL firearms. You’ve fallen for the liberal’s tactics and tricks without fully documenting things for yourself. In other words you’ve sipped the liberal Kool-Aid! Now you’re getting high off it!
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
You are right, denoferth. I am not a weapons expert. Specific information about firearms and ammunition is very pertinent to this whole debate. Why is information like that not being used in the discussions? We can’t even get past the anger and name calling to talk about the issue.
Its a symtom of a bigger problem… Rights vs socialism… A story repeated around the world throughout history.. Defend tbe constitution.. Not the marxist sumbags attempting to overthrow it….
See how your argument to do nothing fits into your constitutional rights that are almost completely gone thru fiat legislation and NWO Agenda.
Where have you been? There are 2000 gun control laws on the books right now that has infringed on the second amendment.. It say`s shall not be infringed but has been infringed on for over 2000 times.
The area is only grey to those that fear being outgunned or simply volunteer to cede the rights of others in bit by bit infringement without understanding the superlative degree of the phrase “shall not be infringed”. Any variation of wording is infringement when only a mirror image of the amendment can exist without conflict of intent thereof. Don’t feel lonesome. Even Bill O Really feels outgunned with only a CCP for a handgun and is willing to give away the rights of others that foresee future need for items that you would deny them.. Guns commit no crimes but people suffering withdrawal side effects from doctor prescribed drugs do while suffering the same symptoms of those sworn to their oaths of office in total memory lapse while acting out a role to justify their abundant paychecks.
@LocalYokel
That was goooood………
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Attend all open government meetings in your locality unless you’re already familiar with bureaucracy.
Seek control by establishment of gun free zones in your own county or municipality without infringing on the rights of others who can simply stay away or comply when in your own little private world of imagination. You could even recommend a billboard at your city limit espousing your philosophy. If you don’t already know what the result will be then you’re very apt to discover a little excitement in your life.
Great article. I have some hope that all military and police officers feel the same as you do. Obama can do noting unless someone enforces Obama’s UN Constitutional EO’s. If blood is to be spilled over this, let it be those who are infringing on the God given rights of We The People.in the Constitution.
Mike360000, I agree. The division is seen.
Greetings Mike 360000 and @whick1. I have enjoyed following your posts in this thread and I agree with you 100%. The nation is divided and it is being done with malice aforethought. The media is a willing tool of the administration and takes every opportunity to exacerbate the division. The South, where most of the conservatism, moral values and true patriotism reside, is being portrayed, as Obama called us, bitter clingers. The Political Isolation of the South is in a full court press. They are coming for our guns and they are coming for us.
@Tac6
Yes, it is preplanned, premeditated.
I don’t mean to keep harping on the same subject, but people needs to know and understand who is behind this. Plain and simple, it is the Jewish bankers behind it, the Khazars. I can sit here the rest of the day and explain this to you in minute details. But does it matter? Does people really accept this as the root of the problems?
I’ve been here in threads that had several Jews in it and I ask them nicely; what do they think? Why do they allow other Jews to use their name in order to do things they oppose? I get no response, but I am ridiculed, attacked and insulted. Is this some kind of automatic self-defense mechanism? If it is they ain’t doing themselves any favors, but instead hurting all of us.
So if you want to take the battle to your opponents, take it to the Jewish bankers and the Khazars. The other Jews who are actually not directly guilty are still guilty by association by NOT opposing the Khazar Jews. Not only that they will defend those Khazar Jews if a non-Jew attacks them. Now you know where the root cause is at. If you want to attack that, good luck. But in the end they will be found out and exposed for what they really are. And for better or for worse the results is gonna be terrible bad for anyone identifying themselves as a Jew. And I don’t have to lift a finger or say another word concerning it, as time will bear this out. I’ve already followed this out, all possibilities to the logical conclusions. There are no other explanations….
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Here’s a fun strategy, laugh at them. Really, Libs aka “Libtardo-Rexus” don’t have what we think they have. They’re paper tigers really. You can tell this by their rapid-fire legislation technique, you know, same as a sucker-punch, or surprise attack. These are strategies of a small band of insurgents, nothing more. Pass all the laws they want, but enforcement, well, NULLIFY THEM.
Yep, Saul Alynsky’s “Rules for Radicals” was right about one thing, Rule #4A says: “Ridicule is the most potent weapon man has.” Let’s protest with “American Laugh-ins.” Laughter is not only fun, but non-confrontational as well. It trumps everything…Semper Fi
@giljones
I wished it were so easy as to laugh at them. I do shake my head in disbelief at them. But laugh, no. Try laughing at madman Lincoln in his day. It was a similar situation. They didn’t believe the South would actually leave. Thinking then as now, that they need us. They thought the South was bluffing and ignored all pleas for reason or consideration. So I ask ya’ll what would you do?
Upon accepting the fact the South wasn’t coming back, they got angry, their pride hurt and they fully knew they could not survive with no income. I ask you again; Now what would you do?
It is a very similar situation to a bad marriage; a drunken husband who does not work and is a bully. They live at the expense of the wife and use her at will. Yet being bigger having the ability to force his will upon her. A paper tiger it may appear to be, but behind that paper mask is a brutal giant who covers up his secret desires of infidelity while pretending to be the victim. Now you tell me one last time; How many bad marriages do you know that are under similar circumstances?
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Glad to see someone writing an article that makes sense!!
Good morning, Mike360000. Have you ever wondered why it is that your comments are not welcome in newspapers or on television? I’m sure you would say it is because the media is controlled by the libtards, or whatever you like to call them. You think your insights are so cutting edge that the truth is just too much for common people to handle. The truth is, your comments are not welcome because they have no relevance. When we started this conversation, you were making an arguement, albeit one I disagreed with. As the conversation progressed, your true colors came out. I don’t make a habit of calling people names or labeling them like you seem to at every corner. Suffice it to say that I am very glad your twisted perspective has no authority. You will, no doubt, spend the rest of your life jumping from one conspiracy theory to another, always forgetting that the last one never came true.
Tell me something, has anyone and I mean anyone ever heard the saying: “DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO”?
Well talk about calling the kettle black and a total DOUBLE STANDARD!!! “We the people” have a sitting president that is dictating to we the people” in order to get a gun you are demanded and commanded to have a complete background check including information relating to one’s mental capacity of being of stable mind, etc. all done by Executive Fiat and circumventing the “Congress, Senate and we the people” as USUAL??? OKAY great!!!
Come on people FLIP the table around and REVERSE the I.D. REQUIREMENTS to be effective to ALL American citizens and start at the TOP with the President and work your way down. PLEASE READ THIS response in it’s entirety and don’t skip a word. WE the PEOPLE can say OK you go first MR. President.
My suggestion is this:
1. Since the president is dictating “his agenda to we the people” I would like to say
ok YOU GO FIRST there boss. After all, what is good for the gooses
should be good for the gander. Set an “example to we the people”, go ahead
let’s see if you can pass muster on a BACKGROUND check. As the saying goes:
“live your life as an example to others (i.e. we the people).
2. We the people would love to know who you really are, where you were really born,
and why all of your purported, corrupted I.D.’s have been found to be questionable
or even be fraudulent and/or altered or SEALED. Go ahead it’s time for you to
comply with our Constitution. There is a scheduled Conference with Supreme
Court on February 15, 2013 and I believe it is all about your I.D. problems.
3. We the people would like to know why you have not complied with the 20th Amendment
in the Constitution under Article 3? per the following information supplied by an
Article posted on: http://www.freerepublic.com 01 14 2013
Tomorrow, Enforce the Twentieth Amendment, Section Three and OBAMA is GONE
U.S. Constitution ^ | January 14th, 2013 | Uncle Sham
Posted on 1/14/2013 9:58:24 PM by Uncle Sham
The Constitution does not allow someone who does not meet the eligibility requirements for President to legally serve no matter what the election results are. It’s right there in the Constitution under the Twentieth Amendment, Section Three:
“3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”
A few notes.
1. There is no such position as a “President elect”, legally, until such a time as Congress has accepted the results of the electoral college votes and a person is actually named as the “President elect”. This means that the term “shall have qualified” refers to something other than the results of winning an election. There is only one place left in the Constitution having to do with “qualifications” for the office of President, that being the eligibility requirements from Article two.
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
2. Since it is the duty of Congress to name an interim President in the event of a President elect’s “failure to qualify”, they, Congress, must know whether or not to do so. This means that they, Congress, must be aware of whether or not a President elect meets the eligibility requirements from Article two. It is the burden of the President elect to “qualify” or “fail to qualify”, thus NOT proving one is eligible under Article Two to Congress is the same thing as “failing to qualify.” Congress avoiding its duty to uphold Section 3 results in the same “failure to qualify”.
3. How was Obama’s eligibility proven to Congress without a valid long form birth certificate? He apparently does not possess such a thing or we would have seen it a million times by now.
4. The eligibility requirements start out with two simple words which forever preclude anyone who “fails to qualify” from serving as a legal president, “No person”. Someone who sneaks in because Congress failed to uphold it’s responsibility to enforce the Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 doesn’t legally exist. The Constitution cannot be fooled just because Congress didn’t act when it was supposed to. A President elect either qualifies or he cannot ever be President, period.
Thus it is that we have protection from someone who is ineligible to serve as President already written into the Constitution. Unfortunately, we also have a Congress that did not uphold it’s oath to support the Constitution and a usurpation of the office of President is the result. We know he is illegal strictly on the basis that we don’t know if he is eligible. If he “qualified”, there would be no debating the subject. The fact that nobody in Congress is able to say whether or not he is eligible means that he never proved to them that he was and thus has “failed to qualify”.
Now, as to who has “standing”. Any elected official at the state or federal level who took the oath of office in Article Six has standing, to demand that the Constitution be obeyed. This means that no judge can deny them the enforcement of their oath to “support the Constitution” if they have a question about whether or not any portion of that Constitution has not been adhered to. In this case, the Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 has clearly been IGNORED by the primary party instructed to act under it, Congress.
Tomorrow, January 15th, they get another shot at upholding their oaths of office or committing treason by ignoring the Twentieth Amendment, Section three. Perhaps someone will finally have the courage to do what is right. END of Article
Okay I am proud of all who have read this article to this point. Now, my next question is: why is it that we the people have been told and denied even in judicial court hearings nationwide the last FOUR years or more the opportunity to even be allowed to submit evidential proof to validate that our sitting President ‘s I.D.’s are fraudulent??? Just ask Sheriff Arpaio and his cold posse team. But we are allowing POTUS to eliminate our 2nd Amendment of whom we the people have been denied time and again know who he is???
What makes any citizen think in their fondest dreams that the current and sitting Congress and Senate that they will even follow through with Impeachment for the POTUS taking away our Bill of Rights, and now chiseling away piece by piece our Constitution???
I shed many tears myself over the loss in Newtown CT and I also realized that the guy that did it stole the guns from him mother who he also killed. I agree with people having to purchase a gun license and having background checks, etc. I also realize that each year that passes thousands and thousands of men, women and children are KILLED daily by drunk drivers. Our state alone has had upwards of 1,000 people per year killed by drunk drivers. So, in my thinking over 30,000 men, women and children each year are murdered by drunk drivers. So where is the national emergency to stop 30,000 plus citizens from being killed EACH YEAR? My grandfather and my father were both killed by drunk drivers and it was a horrible to our family to lose them. The executive gun fiats need to be addressed in the proper channels and eliminate the fiat’s. God Bless America.
Here’s another thought that should be looked into.
RICO act. Well, it looks to me like congress in its entirety and every person that works in it, the white house and every single person that works in it and draws federal paychecks, the justice department and every single person that works directly or indirectly and every single department there-in, and every single employee of the federal government of the United States of America regardless of job description is and has been involved in criminal activity as an organization and every member of congress, including pages, secretaries, mail runners and every single employee therein, every single worker involved in working for the federal government at every level, do I need to list them, should be arrested and charged under the RICO act as an ongoing criminal organization. They are all complicitous in the treasonous acts of lying, cheating, stealing and misrepresentation from/ to the general Natural Born Citizen Population, that would include every judge, bailiff, secretary, toilet cleaner, truck driver, mechanic and every single worker in the justice department nationwide is and has been committing crimes against the Natural Born American Citizens* of the United States of America and should be arrested, jailed without bond for 10 years until trial and convicted of the crimes they have committed. Upon conviction they should be sent to prison, general population, to serve not less than life without the possibility of parole. Just like the drug dealers and anybody else that has been charged under the RICO act. Their Crimes will start with Treason. They have been lying, stealing and cheating the Natural Born American Citizens* of the United States of America for at least 75 years. I can make this even more clear and to the point. Everyone directly or indirectly connected with the Federal Government that has not stood up and yelled out “I’m not gonna be part of this fraud” needs to be arrested, charged with Treason and jailed for life without the possibility of parole. I can’t see any difference between them and the Mafia, if there ever was such a thing, Gun Smugglers, Crooked Politicians, lying businessmen, treasury department employees at every level, bankers at every level, major corporation executives that outsource jobs from the USA taking away jobs from the Natural Born American Citizens* of the USA and every secretary that didn’t stand up and shout out “I’m Not Gonna Be Part Of This Fraud” or any RICO defined organization. When convicted ‘All’ their assets and I mean everything they own should be confiscated and put in the general fund to help the needy Natural Born American Citizens* of the United States of America. Everything they have was derived from their criminal activity while working in the Criminal Organization we know as the Federal Government of the United States of America. That includes all of their kids’ stuff and of course the wives and mistresses property. Seize; confiscate all property of any description. Freeze all bank accounts. Their sentences after a quick trial after sitting in lock down for 10 years and conviction will be Life in, General Population, Prison without the possibility of Parole. Creation of construction jobs for a lot of new prisons for these poor folks that have been sucking on the tax paying Natural Born Citizen Tit. Give the sons and daughters of these crooked politicians and government workers the choice of Prison for life without parole or Front Line Combat Positions to fight under the same wait till you are shot at before you return fire rules of engagement. Well, they get a choice. Then we can go after the middlemen that were involved in defense procurement and all procurement process middlemen that were instrumental in ripping off the taxpayers for the last 75 years and we can prosecute the dead criminals posthumously. Then we can go after the lobbyists and major corporate executives that have run this country into the ground with their excessive salaries and extravagant lifestyles while laughing at their customers. I will mention that all politicians at every level of any size government entity, every single lobbyist and every person that has dealt with foreign nations as a representative of this country was and is involved in criminal activity against the Natural Born American Citizens* of the United States of America should each and every one of them be arrested and jailed for 10 years then convicted of treason and crimes against the Natural Born American Citizens* of the United States of America and sent to Prison, general population, for life without the possibility of Parole. Of course this will include every single member of every policing organization from city, county, state and federal level, every governor and each and every member of every state government and every person involved in the operation of those states should be arrested and tried for Treason and crimes under the Rico Act and jailed for life without the possibility of Parole in general Population. Every member of news media that has not stood up and shouted “I’m Not Gonna Be Part of This Fraud” needs to be arrested and imprisoned for life for Treasonous acts against the Natural Born American Citizens* of the USA. Each and every single person listed above and many I didn’t name specifically are guilty of Murder, Rape, Robbery, at least and every other crime listed in any and all state and federal criminal statutes and should be dealt with accordingly, life in general population prison without the possibility of parole. And All Their Assets and I mean everything, Bank accounts, Children’s personal items and bank accounts and every item of their possession will be confiscated and sold to the highest bidder and the proceeds will go into a general account and administered to help the native Natural Born American Citizens*. By the way I used spell check unlike a lot of you IDIOTS don’t. I also reread this many times before I sent it and it may be a bit much but it’s the only way to get the point across. Hey Stupid, use spell check and proof read before you post it. You may be part of the problem in this country. I don’t give a sh*t about the rest of the world, they can go straight to…. Well, there’s a place for them and it’s not the USA.
* Natural Born American Citizen is a child/ person born to 2 natural born citizens, of the United States of America, of the opposite sex, that being one male and the other being a female, the mother of the child will be older than 18 to bestow upon the child her Natural Born Citizenship of the United States of America. The father will be of an age that he is eligible for military service to bestow upon the child his Natural Born Citizenship of the United States of America. It should not and will not matter where the child/ person is born on the planet as long as it is documented with witnesses of the birth. That child will be given a United States of America Natural Born Citizen Birth Certificate. Without proper documentation the child will be labeled a naturalized citizen. All proper medical testing will be administered to qualify any child for citizenship of the United States of America.
Holy moly, jazzridez. I don’t think you missed anyone. So you would be arresting pretty much everyone then. Natural born citizens, huh? Just like the first people that immigrated here from Europe. Wait, that doesn’t make sense, does it? I guess the Native Americans get the country back under your system.
And just what do you find wrong with that conclusion, white eyes? Not a single Native American tribe was exempt from the tyranny of government deception and abuse proven when the bounty for their scalps dropped from one dollar to 50 cents per scalp in an attempt to have the fund outlast the available scalps. If George Armstrong Custer’s brazen luck had run out behind Cemetery Ridge at Gettysburg instead of at the Little Big Horn things would definitely be better today and Harriet Beecher Stowe would still be considered an author of fiction rather than a historian.for government propaganda.
@LocalYokel
Man you got that down pat!
You spit fire at him that time!
Problem is, he’s so brain dead off the Kool-Aid it flew right over the top of his head. (He didn’t pay any attention to anything you said.)
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Mike
The screen name was chosen as bait for nitpickers such as exhibited here by those that prefer to avoid the main course of discussion in the same manner employed by TV media. With neither any convicting evidence nor edited history offered to whet the appetite of patriots seeking truth. Exposure of the TV saturated sponge they consider as an open mind provides a glaring truth for all to witness. Like the TV media when they have no news they simply manufacture it with live cameras and meaningless rhetoric laden with innuendos
As with all commentary on network media the use of the term “Having said that” indicates the reinforcement of their agenda with only more short term memory stitched to it. Ron Dellums was a master of the tactic in lacing his final statement of prose into the first with in an elegant five minute exhibition of verbosity without ever having used a single word of specific meaning. Little more is required today with teleprompters and the same speechwriters on tap through four administrations.
Such is the desert for sponge minds of all that prefer to remain neutral when the lines in the sand are being drawn separating patriots from all others. I omit my usual coined negation that it isn’t for a game of hopscotch since it’s not likely to ever be explained on any TV monitor. They simply stand in awe at the barrier and wait for hope of deliverance from inevitable fate in refusal to learn from those that have been there and done that.
Inadequacy of logic becomes apparent by their diversion from subject of conversation when they revert to nit picking with loaded questions in lieu of either logical defense or substantiation of otherwise psychotic position.. Neither do they seek truth nor understanding that would threaten their paper castle.charade. Observing their reactions today is as entertaining today as it was forty years ago while gathering data for prosecution of pharmacists selling class 4 anesthetics out their back doors. It’s hard to beat the adrenalin rush experienced by an unknown unpaid undercover narc with no training driven by curiosity with only self protection. But the reward was well worth the loss of sleep and funds in learning that those to whom you entrusted information were less dependable than your sources whether for political of selfish motive and where to not waste ones breath on saturated sponges in uniform or out. They are all suffering from the illusion that they already know all their sponges can retain and psychotic loss of ability to differentiate between imagination and reality.
I can only hope that your posted websites will reveal truth to those that seek truth. For some, only when they can feel the wall behind their back and no further agenda progression possible are they likely to accept truth with their already saturated sponge as seen in associative psychosis. Early diagnosis and cure for such psychopathy included lobotomy. Its much easier today with guaranteed results by medulla longatta copper application. Maybe it is best that they continue to volunteer as subjects on the lists required in proposed legislation as threats to themselves.
@LocalYokel
You’ve made some profound statements that, sadly few here can pick up on. So yeah I can see you getting humor out of what many of these guys write and comment on here. You made an excellent comparison concerning the “entrusted information”. And another excellent one with the “sponges”.
The way I understand the average American’s knowledge today is, they have been sent and taught at public *dumbing down* institutions since early childhood, so they were first *imprinted* and as you say, as a sponge, but it was given muddy water instead of pure and clean water. That sponge was imprinted with contaminated substances that is very hard to squeeze and clean out, simply because that is all there is in there. Very few sponges can be cleaned and imprinted with pure and clean water, but it is only those that will turn loose of all their contaminates. And yes, it can humorous looking at the contaminates that can be squeezed out of the human brain, but it is also sad that so many are lost due to no causes of their own.
They haven’t a clue as the political games they take so serious is actually playtime in order to keep the contaminates mixed in the sponge. The work they do is actually playtime breeding more contaminates for more sponges to contaminate. Sadly they multiply faster than they can be cleaned and given pure water.
So what do we to do; just merely laugh at them and also pretend as you, it is a game? Maybe I do waste my time with them, but my words are still valid as long as they live in cyberspace and someone willing to read them, as is yours also. If someone were to read this 100 or 500 years from now; what would they think about what you and I said? Would they laugh or cry, or would they be amazed or indifferent?
Whatever the case may be, there is always someone somewhere who can relate to it in some way. If you reach them, you done something of merit.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Mike called me an antagonist the other day because he thinks I am here to stir up trouble. You claim you created the username “LocalYokel” as bait to expose nitpickers. Seems pretty antagonistic to me that you would attempt to entrap people by deliberately creating a username that is susceptible to shallow insults. Coincidently, have you noticed how many people on this website routinely employ childish slander? Sounds like you are fishing for your own toe. By the way, I do not watch television on a regular basis, nor do I consider it the best source of information. However, making the claim that you can judge a person’s media consumption based on that person’s speech patterns is reaching, even for you. Did I ask you a loaded question? Of course I did. That’s what happens when you make an offensive implication in a debate, but lack the courage to come right out and say what you mean. You get called on it. I have never heard Ron Dellums speak, but I understand he is a Socialist. No doubt, the only reason you have ever heard of him is because you need people to demonize, and he is a convenient lightning rod. I am not a Socialist, Communist, Marxist, or even a Liberal. You compare me to him in an effort to align me with his politics, but what have I said in this entire discussion that would make anyone think I am a Socialist? I have disagreed first with Mike, them with you. Rather than counter my arguement, you go the easier route and label me. This way, you don’t have to consider anything I say, because I am “the enemy”. You talk about “inadequacy of logic”, yet it is you who keeps running away from having a real discussion. You crawl back into your ideological den, making indirect comparisons and inuendos, assuming they will fly over my head, and acting like your own viewpoints are immune to critisizm. You think my position is psychotic? You and Mike make outlandish claims about what the government and the liberals are doing to this country. You base these claims on top secret information that evidently only a select few have access to, and you are not willing to cite. I am an active participant in American society. I listen to others when they have something to say, whether I agree with them or not. You think reality is sitting firmly on what you already know, hands pressed tightly over your ears. Your solution to conflict is to give your opponents a lobotomy, rendering them submissive. That is your mentality, and you have the audacity to call anyone else a Marxist? The two of you are drama queens. You are so wrapped up in political paranoia that you are blind to the fact that, in many other countries, you would have been executed long ago for critisizing your government. Here it is your right to do so, and it always will be, so long as people like you remain an insignificant minority. Mike, you are just two bigots away from making a boy band.
Are you referring to the Delaware chief, or is that some hillbilly term? As far as George Custer goes, how familiar are you with Cemetary Ridge? Custer did not need any luck that day, because it was a slaughter. It would be more accurate to say that, if Pickett had luck on his side, things would have been different. Even that, however, would be inaccurate, The Confederacy did not have the resources to sustain the war. Even if they had taken more ground, they would not have been able to hold it for long. I’m not a military historian, but I know that much. As for the comment about Harriet Beecher Stowe, I have never read Uncle Tom’s Cabin. However, I am glad slavery was abolished. Are you saying you feel differently. By the way, Mike, you still have nothing to say.
Here is the official comment from the League of the South in response to Obama’s speech last night.
http://dixienet.org/rights/2012/firearms_and_self_defense.php
You can also interact with the LoS on Facebook here, and it is not just for Southerners:
http://www.facebook.com/leagueofthesouth?ref=ts&fref=ts
The quality of the discussions and articles are quiet a bit higher than here, so if you go there, be prepared to do some serious thinking. Rudeness will not be tolerated as they are serious minded people.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
I my opinion there are actually SIX again SIX different area’s that cover “natural born citizen” one was supposedly co-sponsored by Obama himself in 2008:
1. Twentieth Amendment, Sec 3
2. Article II; Sec I; Clause 5
3. Naturalization Act of 1790
4. The Law of Nations (Vattel Book 1, Sec 212)
5. 2008 Resolution co-sponsored by U.S. Senator Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. regarding “natural born citizen” relating to McCains hearings to qualify him to run for President. Which he was allowed and qualified to run.
6. Obama’s own book that he released “Dreams from my Father”, clearly shows his father was a British Subject and that makes Obama a British subject as well because he automatically inherited his fathers citizenship, per British Law 1948.
I would say that the above six (6) items are MORE than sufficient evidence that Obama is a usurper, in my opinion
Another interesting article on Southern States NULLIFYING Federal Law.
Oh those nasty Confederates; don’t they ever learn?
(They’re the only ones that have always stood between you and tyranny. Sadly sometimes they lose…. and then all of you do also…. It’s called the think gray line. NOT the thin blue line.)
http://thefireeater.com/2013/01/17/southern-officials-unite-for-gun-rights/
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
More on State Nullification concerning Gun Control:
My article published:
http://activesouth.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/federal-assault-on-2nd-amendment-a-window-of-opportunity/
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
HEADS UP!
VERY IMPORTANT VIDEO!
If you have any doubts whatsoever about a civil war coming, look at this video! This should go far in concluding one’s final thoughts.
Will the military enforce law on civilians? Will the military fire on civilians? Are they preparing for martial law? Look at this video and see what you think!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UgMx2F41XD0
Does that answers any of your questions?
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
I Cannot do video out here in the woods you got the text??