Reading the headlines the past few weeks has been like a page out of the book of Revelation. Barack Obama riding on his red horse has been foretelling a literal Armageddon if the so-called “draconian” sequestration cuts go into effect.
But Armageddon turned into Chicago’s cutthroat streets with Obama’s Al Capone-like thugs shaking down enemies when pundits, politicians, and journalists began to show that Obama as John the Baptist crying in the wilderness was really the boy crying wolf.
That the sequestration amounted to about two percent of the budget, that the “draconian” sequestration cuts were Obama’s idea. That it was all a sham to get another tax hike on the “fat cat millionaires and billionaires.”
Of course, the leftist media easily spun the narrative for Obama, blaming those evil Republicans.
At least until journalistic giant Bob Woodward came on the scene, setting the record straight. It was hard to argue against Woodward’s facts, given that he had written an entire book, The Price of Politics, describing the whole sequestration debacle.
So the Obama White House did what they do best: the shakedown.
Obama minion and thug Gene Sperling sent Woodward a threatening email, basically telling him to keep his mouth shut:
But I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying saying that Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim.
Team Obama’s mistake was that they weren’t dealing with one of their hacks in the mainstream media. This was the man who had brought down Richard Nixon. This was the man who, as the mainstream media began to drink Obama’s Kool-Aid, remained at the water cooler of real journalism.
And he began to sing like a canary. First on CNN. Then on Fox. Then, well, his words were beamed as millions of ones and zeros over the Internet, and Team Obama and the Left did the only thing that was left: mockery.
This was exemplified with Obama henchman David Plouffe’s tweet that Woodward’s statements were merely rantings of a senile old man. And the Left parroted this narrative ad nauseam. Woodward was washed up. Put him out to pasture. Nothing to see here, move on. Give Woodward a teaspoon of Geritol and wheel him out onto the patio.
Except then came Lanny Davis, former Bill Clinton special counsel who had been writing a column for the Washington Times. He too received the shakedown treatment from Team Obama.
Then the wheels began to fall off the sequestration bus.
The media began to turn on Obama.
Arne Duncan, Obama’s Education Secretary, was caught in a lie about the sequestration resulting in “thousands of teacher layoffs,” which was a total fabrication.
But this was only the innocuous part of Obama’s spin machine.
Beneath the surface, there was simmering what can only be called treason.
Barack Obama, putting politics above his primary duty as Commander-in-Chief—that of protecting it’s citizens—pulled the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Harry S. Truman out of commission, citing his phony sequestration cuts.
But this is mild compared to what he did next. Citing the “draconian” sequester cuts, Barack Hussein Obama opened the jail cells of hundreds of illegal aliens, letting them roam the streets to rape and maim and kill. And this is only the beginning. It has been reported that Obama will release ten thousand jailed illegal aliens.
And when his army of ten thousand criminals are done—make no bones about it—there will be dead bodies.
And Barack Hussein Obama will be an accessory to murder.
And that is an impeachable offense.
All as part of a ploy to get the rich to “pay their fair share.”
After Obama is impeached and removed from office—and impeachment proceedings should begin immediately—today—Barack Hussein Obama should be tried and convicted as an accessory to murder.
And then America should throw away the key.
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My husband and many others are taking a huge pay cut for the next 6 month. I hope these bas”””””” don’t try to make this permanent. They should take a pay cut from their huge salaries, especially the prez, before rank and file. We can’t afford it, but he and congress can.
I just heard it reported that obama’s little golf trip to Florida with Tiger Woods cost us taxpayers as much as approximately 341 federal/contractor employee furloughs.
I just cannot begin to tell everyone how disgusted I am at obama and his thugs.
He is president not a dictator as he said but to me he is a gay illegal American hating Muslim who would love to break America which he has almost done. The idea of him spending thousands of dollars on golf while most of the country is out of work, losing everything they have worked so hard for, sitting back watching the illegals get help and they can’t. Obama is the worst thing to happen to this great country and why people were so stupid as to allow him to steal this election is beyond anyone’s thinking. There is all this talk about impeaching that gay illegal but he still sits in the White House.
My thoughts on these elected liars and crooks sitting in DC in the House and or Senate is they are too weak to go investigate him and too afraid of impeaching him because Obama has pulled the biggest scam on the government and the citizens just by getting elected when he is illegal. If he was a citizen why did he go to school on grants that were given to student who were citizens of another country? If he is legal then he better pay the loans back. Look what happened to the lady in WA state that ran Obamas SS number on the E Verify which was put in to check for illegals and make sure they didn’t get a job in America. She got fined over $11,000 and I really thought that E Verify was used to weed the illegals out but I guess not if you are Obama. His aunt was told to leave this country 3 or 4 times because she was illegal but as soon as he got president she got to stay but he said he had nothing to do with it. One of the first lies he told. Now is he going to make his drunk uncle legal too. Too bad nobody can make him legal and he needs to go to the back of the line and come to this country like every other illegal has for hundreds of years. He is not president but just holding the office because nobody is brave enough to investigate that gay illegal,
Did you know that while he was in Florida playing golf, Michelle was in Aspen on a skiing trip? And, they just came back from a long Christmas holiday in Hawaii.
lindarosemary- Obamma has given BILLIONS to other countrys. Bob Woodward started the roll that will bring this traitor to justice for the American People. Again looks like the “Zombies” are worried of the truth. OUR GOVERNMENT IS BROKE! The Rich Bullies are doing business outside of the U.S and making a BIG profit.
The senate and congress still wont do anything! They have all been complicit in his actions! With such a sequester they are having no probem purchasing 2700 armored vehicles for DHS!!! Yes, he continues to build his GESTAPO!!! What does a civilian organization need with millions upon millions of bullets, AUTOMATIC WEAPONS, while trying to disarm law abiding citizens? Congress and Senate both should be held as accessories to murder in the Americans that obama has killed already! All these government officials are war criminals when they stepped into office and refused to uphold there oath of office!! Likewise, there is no questioning obama is illegal as he is NOT natural born. Yes, these officials know this and knew the meaning before obama took office as for 4 years preceding, there was numerous moves to change the qualifications as president of the US to just that of citizen!!! .ie they all know the truth!!! Thus, they are complicit and all should be tried for treason and war crimes!!!
Re: “there was numerous moves to change the qualifications as president of the US to just that of citizen!!!”
Most of them were to allow Schwartzenegger, the former governor of California, who was a naturalized citizen, to become president. Obama, who was born in Hawaii, is a Natural Born Citizen due to his place of birth (as are Rubio and Jindal).
http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/
Obama was born in Kenya.
The Whitehouse slideshare website has Obama’s Forged BC on it. Look at it. It is an obvious forgery. Teen Hackers put a smiley face on the Registrars signature. There is a scratchout on it. NO official government document has a “Scratch Out” on it. There is kerning on it, which did not exist until computer controlled printing. Obvious Stupid arrogant Forger.
Go to the White House (WH) Website to see the Forged BC and download a copy or just view it.
http://www.slideshare.net/whitehouse/birth-certificatelongform
Download Obama’s REAL Hawaiian Registration of Obama’s Kenyan, at web link: http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/18/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/
On the WH BC look at Data Entry block # 18a. Think, what is different about this block when compared to all the other blocks on the form, excluding what is written in them? Think, See, Note, What 1961 typewriter has a “Check” on it. Duh! None! What other block on the form has a check in it? Duh! None! What is used to mark all the other “Check” Blocks on the Form? Duh, X’s or XX’s.
Now look at the check blocks in both 18a and 19a. There is a “Scratch Out” on 19a that extends up and into 18a. NO OFFICIAL government document ever has a “Scratch Out” on it. It is always retyped if there is an error. That in itself means the document has been forged, by a comical amateur Egg Head.
Now look at the signature of the State Registrar. Everyone knows that Forrest Gump did not invent the “Smiley Face” until after he got out of the Army in the late 1960′s… Duh, what year was Barack Born. That should be easy because it is entered on the form. Duh!
The Stamp that is the Authentication above Alvin T. Oanaka’s name has had the “THE” Changed to “TXE”, Duh!
Do you know what the shadow “9″s are in # 9 and 12b, they mean the block has no data in it. This was told to Mike Zullo by Mrs. Lee herself. She still lives in Hawaii and is 96 years old. She gave Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Mike Zullo all of the meanings of all of the shadow codes. The codes were used to select data for government data bases.
To see the REAL Hawaiian Registration of Obama’s Birth in Kenya visit web link:
http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/18/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/
When you compare this REAL Document with the White House released Forgery, you can easily see that this was the template used to make the Forgery. The boxes in 18a and 19a are checked differently. And this Doc has something written in Data Block 23 and what is entered in that data block explains; “Evidence for Delayed Filing or Alteration”; because the registration was 8 days late. And that Data Block says: “”1. Birthplace: Kenya; Registered Honolulu. RHS 338-17.8 per Grandmother”. Now isn’t that a SHOCKER. But it is true! If you look at Madlyn Payne Dunham’s address and Google it, Google says that is the House where Barack H Obama was born, but we know from this BC that is a “LIE” because now we know for certain that he was born in Kenya.
Now you know Obama is a Forger, Liar, guilty of a Felony and is UNLAWFULLY the President of the United States. And all of his Identity documents are frauds and forgeries. But Glib lazy stupid cool Aid Drinking liberals are too lazy and too hypnotized and actually do not want anyone to break them out of their “Matrix” Coffin.
Have Fun Reading the Truth that you will never get from the Main Stream PROPAGANDA MINISTRY that Obama owns and controls.
Barack Hussein Obama II wrote in HIS Literary Bios in 1991 at Acton & Dystel, “Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii” Kenya, HE wrote in 1991 HIS Literary Bios at Acton & Dystel.
To see Obama’s Literary Bios, see the following we blink:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii
The following web link contains BHOs Kenyan BC both as a photo copy and a certified copy and has witness videos and statements about how Ann Dunham went into labor at a beach party. She had been refused a return flight to the USA because she was nine months pregnant.
http://thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm
To see the REAL Hawaiian Registration of Obama’s Birth in Kenya visit web link:
http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/18/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/
To see proof the White House released BC is a fraud and to see his real Hawaiian Birth Registration, see the video of how his WH BC uses Kerning, which did not exist in 1961. The Video’s first 3 minutes shows Kerning used on the WH BC which Absolutely Proves it is a Forgery/Fraud. The next 9 minutes shows his Hawaiian birth Registration of foreign birth, “Born in Kenya, Registered in Honolulu”. The Birth Registration was reported and registered and signed by his Grandmother Madlyn Payne Dunham.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=hqNBBgwNTMc&feature=endscreen
Oh, and this BC uses Kerning which did not exist in 1961. The spaces between letters in old typewriters had the same space regardless of which letter followed which. Kerning adjusts the space between letters for each letter following the first. This is for appearance and space compression. For instance a y following a T will overlap. No typewriter of the 1960s era would do that. For example, in Data Block 6a, the “ty” in maternity overlap and the “Gy” in Gynecological overlap. That alone proves that this BC has been altered and is a Forgery. There are many more “Tells” of forgery. But, Stupid lazy Liberals will not even go to the slide share of the White House website. They do not want their “Balloon” of stupidity “Popped” because it will hurt so much and their Messiah will fall to the depths of Helllll.
What follows shows Barack’s literary bios that he Himself wrote for Acton & Distel in 1991, before he knew that to be President you cannot be born in a foreign country, what an Idiot Constitutional Lawyer he was. And one link is to a photocopy and certified copy of his Kenyan BC and witness statements of how Mommy went into labor at the beach in Mombasa. The best document though is the Hawaiian Registration of his Kenyan birth made by Granny Madlyn Payne Dunham which may be viewed at the Aloha Sun Newspaper site. And the last is a video on the Kerning used in Obama’s Forged white house Birth Certificate released on the White House Website and how it uses Kerning which did to exist in 1961 which is ABSOLUTE PROOF IT IS A FORGERY.
Have Fun Reading the Truth that you will never get from the Main Stream PROPAGANDA MINISTRY that Obama owns and controls.
Thanks willyrho; I didn’t realize the extent of the forgery. Apparently, 0bama zombies aren’t half as smart as they think they are. Keep the faith, they can only hold back the tide for so long.
Re claim of “forgery.”
Obama’s birth certificate is not fake. Only birther “experts” have called it fake, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
Ellen wrote: “Obama’s birth certificate is not fake. Only birther “experts” have called it fake”
I’m stopping after your first lie and have not read further because of it.
Investigator Mike Zullo nor Sheriff Joe Arpaio are birthers – they are/were members of law enforcement. In fact they attempted to disprove the claims of those who questioned the BC.
But the FORENSIC evidence forced them to conclude that the birth certificate is a forgery. The evidence of forgery is manifest in many different ways: layers, fonts, pixils, etc, etc, etc. Any one of the pieces of evidence is enough to invalidate the computer file Obama presented. The combination of forged elements makes it impossible to conclude anything but a forgery.
Re: “born in Kenya.”
Obama never said that he was born in Kenya, nor did his biography. A publicist got Obama and his Kenyan-born father mixed up (they both have the same name) and has admitted the mistake. The government of Kenya says that Obama was, for sure, not born there.
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof. (Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …
Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.
Oh, and there is this:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol …
Is that all? NO there is more.
Birthers allege that the Kenyan government has hidden all documents that prove that Obama’s mother went to Kenya. Well, that is possible, but not likely—such things tend to leak. But what about the US government? Did it hide its records too?
That is because, obviously, if a child were born in Kenya she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. We simply do not allow a child to be carried into the USA without some form of official document. (Except some are smuggled across the Mexican and Canadian borders, but Kenya does not have a land border with the USA.) And a US travel document, such as having Obama added to his mother’s US passport would have required an application for that document in the US consulate in Nairobi Kenya.
That application would have been filed in multiple files, and there would have been communication about it with Washington, so it would be difficult to be lost or scrapped. And the Bush Administration was in charge of the US State Department for eight years until early 2009, so they could have found it, and if they did they would surely have shown it, and they didn’t.
So, for the “born in Kenya” story to be true, both Kenya and the Bush Administration must be part of a plot. Hawaii too, of course, and that would include the former Republican governor of Hawaii, now running for the US Senate. And the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers that were placed by the DOH in the Hawaii newspapers (and only the DOH could put notices into the Health Bureau Statistics section of the papers) in 1961 would have to be fraudulent too.
And, heck, Kenya is about ten thousand miles from Hawaii, and the idea that Obama’s parents had that kind of money or would spend it on a trip while Obama’s mother was late in pregnancy (which was very rare in those days) and take the risk of stillbirth and Yellow Fever (which was endemic in Kenya, and a Yellow Fever shot is bad during pregnancy) is nutty in the extreme.
The bottom line: There is no proof that Obama’s mother went to Kenya and it is highly unlikely that she did. The Kenyan government and Obama’s relatives both say that he was not born there. If he were born in Kenya there would have to be US government documents saying that his family applied for a passport or a visa, and there isn’t any. There is no INS check in for Obama or his mother (which would normally have taken place in New York, since there were no direct flights, and those files are not missing), and the birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties and the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers all show that he was born in Hawaii.
Ellen wrote: “Obama never said that he was born in Kenya, nor did his biography. A publicist got Obama and his Kenyan-born father mixed up (they both have the same name) and has admitted the mistake.”
I’m a published author and have worked with literary agents. No literary agent writes an author’s bio. They NEVER do it. It is done by the author in their book proposal. Agents just don’t have the time or inclination to write their client’s bios for them.
Obama wrote that he was born in Kenya.
The statement by the agent after the fact was a whopper, pure and simple.
Re: “Investigator Mike Zullo nor Sheriff Joe Arpaio are birthers – they are/were members of law enforcement. In fact they attempted to disprove the claims of those who questioned the BC.”
That is what they said, but nobody believes them.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors
Re: “But the FORENSIC evidence forced them to conclude that the birth certificate is a forgery. The evidence of forgery is manifest in many different ways: layers, fonts, pixils, etc, etc, etc”
None of that is a fact. The only fact is that birther “experts” have made claims about layers (which are both false and nutty) and fonts (also wrong) and pixels (ditto). And these birther “experts” include such nuts as Doug Vogt, who has claimed to have found the original Altar of Abraham, and such anti-Obama zealots as Paul Irey, who has insisted that Obama did not go to Columbia College, despite Columbia University having said that he did—and even that he graduated.
The lack of objectivity and lack of proven expertise of those “experts” are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
Re: “No literary agent writes an author’s bio. They NEVER do it. It is done by the author in their book proposal. ”
Have you worked with all the literary agents in the world? Have you worked with the one in this case?
No? Well, she says that she wrote it. Are you saying that she is lying? (Add her to the four or five liars in the Hawaii government, who all say that they saw Obama’s birth certificate and that it says he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, and in fact in Kapiolani Hospital.)
So, for her to have been lying, as you claim, Obama would have had to have written in that bio that he was born in Kenya. But the book involved DOES NOT SAY THAT HE WAS BORN IN KENYA. It says, as does the birth certificate, that he was born in Hawaii (confirmed by the officials of BOTH parties, confirmed by the public Index Data file, confirmed by the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers, confirmed by the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley.)
So it is not likely at all that the literary agent is lying, and in fact you can understand how she would make the mistake since in fact one Barack Hussein Obama really was born in Kenya—Obama’s father. But Obama was not born in Kenya. The Kenyan government says that it investigated that claim and that it is false, and his Kenyan grandmother never said that he was born in Kenya. He was in fact born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmations all show.
So, she is not lying. She really did write the bio herself, as she said, and she really did make that mistake.
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Money and planes both have been sent to the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt. Explain that. Our new secretary of state just sent them millions of dollars.
The President can only do what Congress gives him authority to do.
Blame Congress.
This is what the Tea Party wanted all along.
Don’t you get it? It’s not the president’s job to create jobs by picking winners and losers.
Increasing taxes reduces the amount of money the people have to create and grow business.
Obama has killed the economy with the ObamCareTax and his oppressive regulations through the EPA, FTC, FDA, etc.
He could have approved the Keystone Pipeline, but he killed it along with tens of thousands of high paying jobs. The ObamaCareTax is resulting in fewer hours and fewer employees.
Chilidog, He is supposed to be a moderaror between the two houses of congress but as you can see that done went out the door when he was elected and they gave him power of executive power,he is abusing this and no one has the guts to tell him and his cronies they’re done. they will bully us al into slavehood. and we’ll be another communist society just like his heros have.We have to get off our butts and take this country back before DHS and his other secret organizations he’s put together come out from under their rock and start attacking us.
He says, “I don’t need no “Stinking Congress” I will do it by Executive Order. Release all of those Criminal Illegal Aliens, give them all a Fast & Furious Gun to smuggle to the Mexican Drug Cartels like I did and got Brian Terry and Jaime Zapata Murdered and 2000 Mexican Nationals. I, Obama am a Murderer, just try to stop me”.
I once believed that too but you are forgetting his little tactic of “EXECUTIVE ORDER”.
Impeach away for those who should do the impeaching, no doubt needs impeaching themselves. The man is not a real President, so how can you impeach him? He needs arresting for the attempted overthrow, if not the overthrow of this nation. He is a foreign agent and that is where it should all begin. He is not a duly elected man, but a foreign agent, who stole the vote, is passing illegal ‘laws.’ and bypassing our Constitution. So impeach? He needs, as I clearly stated, arresting for being a foreign agent, fraud, and crimes not even begun to be stated.
Obama really was born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 all show, and the meaning of Natural Born Citizen really does come from the common law and really does refer to the place of birth. And Obama really was re-elected on November 6, with more than 4.9 million votes more than Mitt Romney won and 332 votes to Mitt Romney’s 206.
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/13/is-it-time-to-roll-up-the-welcome-mat-here/
And if you do not believe Redstate, then ask yourself whether the Republican governors and Republican secretaries of state and Republican congressmen and senators of the swing states would have said that Obama won that state if Romney really had won it, and the same for Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter and the National Review. They, and Karl Rove, and Gingrich and Santorum and Huckabee all concede that Obama really did win the election.
All that aside, what difference does that make not (to use hillary’s phrase)?
The question here is his administration’s ILLEGAL release of illegal aliens without the consent of Congress.
He has done other impeachable offenses as well………..unilaterally deciding to NOT uphold DOMA (do you even know what that was?), as well as ignoring and changing immigration laws by executive orders.
His nationality is minor (comparatively speaking) compared to the multiple violations of his oath of office.
I was responding to blackb, who claimed that Obama was “foreign” and that he “stole the vote.” The answer to those claims is that he is not foreign, having been born in Hawaii, and that he did not steal the vote.
Responding to ccfonten: If it is illegal, then Congress can impeach. You have the right to call your senators and your congressman and ask them to impeach, and they have the right to ignore you. Oh, and if Obama were impeached, then Joe Biden would become president.
And, btw: The immigrants who were released still eventually face deportation and are required to appear for upcoming court hearings. But they are no longer confined in immigration jails, where advocacy experts say they cost about $164 per day per person.
Ellen, I too voted for Obama in ’08 as I knew we really did need “HOPE and CHANGE” But this is defiantly not the HOPE, (I and probably countless others) or CHANGE I was “hoping” for or “changing” to. The 4.9 million you say he won by in this past election is from all the illegal and forged voting that went on. I watched a clip of a lady who worked at a polling station in Cincinnati OH. and she admitted on live TV she ended up voting twice, first one (she said) was an absentee ballot as she didn’t know if she would make it to the poll’s (where she was a worker) OR if the ballot she sent (by the deadline date) would make it on time and count, she also admitted to mailing 6 other absentee ballots for family members and people who she rented Apartments to. (who all 6 also made it to the poll’s to vote) so right there is 6…… and I am pretty sure he should have gotten a little more then 4.9 million illegal votes so he really got his butt kicked if all the Fraudulent and Illegal votes were cast out. Like I stated at the beginning I VOTED for him in ’08…… but found out he is: ” “One Big Ass Mistake America”
I hope and Pray for my friends, family, and people like you to please get that wool that’s pulled over your eyes (like I had in ’08) before it is to late. Thank you and “PEACE” Kenny Laverty and I approve this post and I built (wrote) this message on my own.
God Bless You for seeing the light. I admire that you are posting here. His 47% that is closer to the votes he really got has probably diminished to about 35%. Every single precinct that showed more than 100% was inner-city nests that he knew were easily corruptible. They had no conscience and broke the law by voting multiple times, supervisors of elections were counting ballots behind closed doors (Gertrude Walker of St. Lucie County, FL). It is statistically impossible for Mitt Romney to not have received 1 vote in some districts. There were Republicans registered to vote in these areas. This happened in ’08 as well. That’s why the dems are so adamant about no voter ID, etc. Time to stop my rant, hope you have a great evening & weekend.
So, please explain to me why he himself and his beautiful wife on film, video and published stated he was born of a lowly goat herder in Kenya. Why does his own grandmother say that she was there in Kenya when he was born? Keep on drinkin that Koolaid, baby.
er, no. She did not say that.
That is a scam perpetuated by those making money of the birther hoax.
Oh please shut up. ellen. It has already been shown and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that his FAKE documents were FORGED! Try to keep up. And guess what? The collective voice of We the People is getting louder, and Louder, and LOUDER! We’ll see that illegal alien LIAR rat bastard is removed from office before his embattled second term is over. We won’t stop until he is impeached, physically removed from office, evicted from the white house and incarcerated.
And here is something else that will happen. OBAMACARE will be ABOLISHED completely, seeing that it IS unconstitutional no matter what the SCOTUS says. Every appointment, law and anything else he has unconstitutionally set forth will be RESCINDED!
Then we will set about rounding up all the illegals he illegally released upon society.
You go Betta. He/she/it/ellen is one of those that will be led right into the chambers while declaring her allegiance to Mao Tse Tung.
Obama’s birth certificate is not fake. Only birther “experts” have called it fake, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
Elen if memory serves me correctly, You’ve been here long enough to tknow that the term “natural born citizen” as used by the Founding Fathers came from the book “Rule of Nations” rather than from common law. Common law refers to “subjects” not citizens. It’s the equivalent to equating free people to slaves.
The newspaper publication has zero probative value as has been explained many times before. In stark contrast the forensic evidence collected by the Mericopa (sp?) County sheriff’s office is extremely probative. Their conclusions are that both his birth certificate and his Seleective Service Registatioon are fraudulent.
Forensic evidence is what is called “Best evidence.” That evidence has never been refuted.
Since you are well aware of all this already, then you have revealed yourself as a shill.
—–“Common law refers to “subjects” not citizens. It’s the equivalent to equating free people to slaves.”
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Let me quote from a Supreme Court of the United States opinion written over 100 years ago:
“The term “citizen,” as understood in our law, is precisely analogous to the term “subject” in the common law, and the change of phrase has entirely resulted from the change of government. The sovereignty has been transferred from one man to the collective body of the people, and he who before as a “subject of the king” is now “a citizen of the State.”
You couldn’t even provide the case name??
Not. Good. Enough.
The meaning of Natural Born Citizen was defined in the Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court case, which said:
“It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.
III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”
That clearly says that the meaning comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth. And historical research confirms that the Wong Kim Ark decision is correct. The way that we know for sure is that the writers of the US Constitution used Natural Born several times in their writings, but they always used it the same way that it was used in the common law and never used it to refer to parents. And here are some examples of how it was used at the time:
“Prior to the adoption of the constitution, the people inhabiting the different states might be divided into two classes: natural born citizens, or those born within the state, and aliens, or such as were born out of it. The first, by their birth-right, became entitled to all the privileges of citizens; the second, were entitled to none, but such as were held out and given by the laws of the respective states prior to their emigration. …St. George Tucker, BLACKSTONE’S COMMENTARIES: WITH NOTES OF REFERENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. (1803)
(As you can see, that refers only to the place of birth, not to the parents.) And here is an example from 1829, written by a man who was friends with Washington and Franklin:
“Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity.”—William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed. (1829)
So both the US Supreme Court and the historical research says that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth.
The senate and congress still wont do anything! They have all been complicit in his actions! With such a sequester they are having no probem purchasing 2700 armored vehicles for DHS!!! Yes, he continues to build his GESTAPO!!! What does a civilian organization need with millions upon millions of bullets, AUTOMATIC WEAPONS, while trying to disarm law abiding citizens? Congress and Senate both should be held as accessories to murder in the Americans that obama has killed already! All these government officials are war criminals when they stepped into office and refused to uphold there oath of office!! Likewise, there is no questioning obama is illegal as he is NOT natural born. Yes, these officials know this and knew the meaning before obama took office as for 4 years preceding, there was numerous moves to change the qualifications as president of the US to just that of citizen!!! .ie they all know the truth!!! Thus, they are complicit and all should be tried for treason and war crimes!!!
AND NO HE WAS NOT BORN IN HAWAII!!!
Obama was born in Hawaii as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 all show.
The meaning of Natural Born Citizen was defined in the Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court case and refers to the place of birth, not the citizenship of two, or even one parent(s).
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling: “Those born “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency,
Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 – Appellate Court) ruling: “Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”
Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling: “It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.”
Purpura v. Obama (New Jersey 2012) ruling: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.”
Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling: “However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that ‘[e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States. ‘Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion. [The judge cites Hollander and Ankeny]
Allen v. Obama (Arizona 2012) ruling: “Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, Arizona v. Jay J. Garfield Bldg. Co. , 39 Ariz. 45, 54, 3 P.2d 983, 986(1931), and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. … Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise”
The senate and congress still wont do anything! They have all been complicit in his actions! With such a sequester they are having no probem purchasing 2700 armored vehicles for DHS!!! Yes, he continues to build his GESTAPO!!! What does a civilian organization need with millions upon millions of bullets, AUTOMATIC WEAPONS, while trying to disarm law abiding citizens? Congress and Senate both should be held as accessories to murder in the Americans that obama has killed already! All these government officials are war criminals when they stepped into office and refused to uphold there oath of office!! Likewise, there is no questioning obama is illegal as he is NOT natural born. Yes, these officials know this and knew the meaning before obama took office as for 4 years preceding, there was numerous moves to change the qualifications as president of the US to just that of citizen!!! .ie they all know the truth!!! Thus, they are complicit and all should be tried for treason and war crimes!!! Natural born means born to two naturalized citizens of the United States!! He is not!! He is a fake, a FRAUD!!! Just like his forged selective service documents, forged Birth Certificate, and his 16 SSNs!!!! Not to mention the clear tax fraud that they burried of his participatin in the REZKO case!!
Impeachment is the result of a process! The House, controlled by the GOP, has the Constitution’s responsibility to investigate, and then vote to impeach if the facts of their investigation (called an inquiry) show that impeachment is warranted. The House can supoena documents, and require testimony under pain of perjury. If those facts discovered show that Soebarka/Soetoro/Obama is ineligible, then he must be indicted and removed from office until there is a fair trial. If they do not investigate his eligibility, but only his treasonous actions, then impeachment will present all of the facts that would warrent conviction in a trial by the Senate. The Senate may choose not to convict, but the facts brought forward by the impeachment process would likely destroy his ability to govern, and doom the Democratic Party for failure of their party members to do their duty for the Nation. Since the penalty for treason is greater than the penalty for fraud, the usurper may use ineligibility as his defense against impeachment. And, all any one with responsibility for determining eligibility needed to do in 2008 was to actually
do their duty to properly vette this man. So many should be held accountable for this!
“For want of a shoe….”
There is always SOME vote fraud. To think that it accounted for 4.9 million votes or, say, the 177,000 that Obama won by in Ohio, and the 74,000 that Obama won by in Florida, is simply nutty. IF any of those things had occurred, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and Ann Coulter and the National Review and the Republican governors and Republican secretaries of state of those states would have said something about it. Instead, they confirmed that Obama won.
Ellen, either you’re a plant put out here on the airwaves or you are just plain naive. People are finally waking up, including some of the media and you’re still asleep. WAKE UP, ELLEN ! If your going to look at the wrong sources, then for pete’s sakes look at the other sources as well. I did for over 4 years now…looked at both and saw greed, control, selfishness and a whole lot more, expecially LIES. And then I compared them, to find truth and I found a lot. As I have mentioned to you before…just look around you and you can see the truth from the lies.
Dream on. Obama really was born in Hawaii, really is a Natural Born Citizen, and really did win the election on November 6. If there were significant voter fraud, Mitt Romney and Paul ryan and Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck and the National Review and the Republican governors and Republican secretaries of state of the swing states would have said so.
Re: Greed. Perhaps you have forgotten but in each of the last two years of the Bush Administration, the US accepted $200 billion in contrasts WITHOUT BIDDING.
Election fraud, Ellen, not just voter fraud. But you knew that already.
Election fraud can produce any combination of vote totals as is desired by the people in charge of the rigging.
How did they rig the electoral college vote?
IF there were significant voter fraud, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and the Republican governors and Republican secretaries of state of the swing states would have said something about it. But they never have. Nor did Karl Rove, or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee or Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck or the National Review.
More Ellen stupidity.
It was a combination of voter fraud AND election fraud. But you’re too ignorant to know the difference.
I suggest you go back and watch the hearings… it was outright fraud!!!
If we do get him out, it will probably result in getting rid of a lot of Democrats since it would be easy to prove that many of them were aware of obamas status as a usurper. Possibly also resulting in the Republicans gaining control of the Senate also. Then we could really clean up government and a lot of crappy laws.
Every single senator and congressman from both parties need to be removed for there failure to uphold there oath of office!!
Dream on.
Re: “It was a combination of voter fraud AND election fraud. But you’re too ignorant to know the difference.”
IF a combination of voter fraud and election fraud was significant enough to change the results of the election, or even to change the results in a single state, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and the Republican officials in that state would have said something about it. Instead they, and Ann Coulter, and Glenn Beck and the National Review and Karl Rove, and Gingrich and Santorum and Huckabee, all say that Obama won the election.
“IF a combination of voter fraud and election fraud was significant enough to change the results of the election, or even to change the results in a single state, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and the Republican officials in that state would have said something about it. Instead they, and Ann Coulter, and Glenn Beck and the National Review and Karl Rove, and Gingrich and Santorum and Huckabee, all say that Obama won the election.”
You don’t know any of your conclusions to be true. It’s just something you’ve decided to be true.
Opinions don’t mean much. Facts do. I don’t have time to show you the numbers, but the numbers don’t add up. Period.
Re: “The numbers don’t add up.” If you are referring to the birther myth that in some districts more than 100% of registered voters voted, it is wrong. It comes from the fact that in those districts there were a lot of people on the ballot at the state and local level and a lot of long state issues to be decided on by the voters, so they had to have two ballots. Some sites have represented the number of ballots cast as a percentage of the total voters in the district, and of course it amounted to more than 100% because of the fact that people could cast two ballots. But they could only cast one ballot for president. And, if it had been any other way, if people were allowed to cast two ballots for president, then the Republican officials in that state would have said something about it.
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/13/is-it-time-to-roll-up-the-welcome-mat-here/
My parents made me read The Naked Communist back in 1965 when I was 16. Everything in that book has happened incrementally year after year to it’s conclusion now. BO and criminals are real live communist extortionist pigs at the trough that we have to pay for. The military leaders are unread ignorant idiots from A to Z and if they were not then BO and gang would have been marched off to a military prison for treason. The country remains in name only. It’s bankrupt beyond repair and run by crony corporations and Federal Reserve owners. Something huge is going to happen in a few months. Get prepared.
Dream on. Obama, like other liberals like Truman and Eisenhower, will have a normal administration, and in fact over time things will get better. I agree, however, that many corporations are indeed corrupt. We need another Teddy Roosevelt.
You are a skilled shill. Trying to pass off Eisenhower as a liberal and like Obama. I hope you’re getting paid much more than the near minimum wage the 3,575 new hires are getting.
It is far too late for Obama to have a normal administration. Not after F& F, the GM debacle, Benghazi, strafing lower Manhattan with Scare Force One, the illegal wars in Libya and Syria, refusing to defend DOMA in the courts, defying federal court orders, hiring Maoists and communists as advisers, stealing the election, providing a fraudulent birth certificate file, opening the WH to multiple meetings with Muslim Brotherhood members, not submitting a real budget, establishing rules of engagement in Afghanistan that has killed many US troops,, etc.
It is too effing late for anything approaching normalcy
Eisenhower was a liberal republican, and the John Birch Society called him a traitor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society#Eisenhower_issue
Re: “It is too effing late for anything approaching normalcy.”
F&F, by the way, was started by the Bush Administration.
I repeat, Obama will have a normal administration. He will not be impeached. He will have the complete four year administration, and by the end of it, I predict, the stock markets will be considerably higher than now and unemployment will have fallen to seven or six percent.
Congratulations, Ellen. You wrote about several different things and were wrong about every one of them.
Relying on the JB Society to make a determination about whether Eisenhower was a liberal is beyond silly. Anyone to the left of the JB society was a screaming liberal in their eyes.
Th Bush Adminstration did not have a Fast & Furious. Their program tried to track the guns with technology, but Obama’s specifically didn’t track the guns. The Bush administration quickly realized it wasn’t working and cancelled it.
Bush was attempting to catch drug lords. Obama’s plan was to blame US guns for murders. Do you see the difference!!
The unemployment rates are much higher than the 7.9% being reported by this corrupt administration. Only a sycophant wouldn’t understand that. The real unemployment is somewhere between 17% and 22% using older methods for counting.
A large percentage of new hires are government jobs. The rest are mostly minimum wage jobs. Many people who used to earn good salaries are now taking minimum wage or barely above it jobs.
Early in Obama’s first term, the administration would hire and fire and then rehire the same employees over and over again in order to pad their new hire numbers. It was a pathetic manipulation of the employment figures.
If you want to know what the real unemployment figures are, look at food stamps where the roles have increased 50%.
The stock market has doubled while the money supply has tripled and continues to be inflated by as much as $85 billion a month. You probably have no clue what that means. It means if the stock market growth were real, it would have tripled to 21,000 instead of 14,000.
Meanwhile, guess what the inflated money supply means to the average person? It means higher food and gas prices. Have you bought gas lately? It’s about $4 where I buy it. Inflation is the tax you pay to live your everyday life when you have a complete disaster running the WH.
As high as prices have climbed already, we are only at the beginning of the inflationary curve.
I’m wasting my breath with you because you have your head up Obama’s — and in your dimwitted mind he can do no wrong.
He has done EVERYTHING wrong. I hope you like the 2,700 armed personnel carriers Home Land Security has bought to go along with their 1.5 billion bullets, including 470 million hollow point bullets.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-1-6-billion-bullet-stockpile/
Great summation of facts, unlike the brain-dead libs copy&pastes in the tank for an America-hating America-destroying Communist.
Thanks, Jenny.
BTW, this administration is so crooked they could come up with any set of stats they desire. They are meaningless to the real world.
Re Eisenhower not being a liberal Republican.
Eisenhower was backed by the moderate (liberal) wing of the Republican Party, including Thomas Dewey. It was Robert Taft, the author of the Taft-Hartley Law, who was the conservative Republican (and further to his right there was General MacArthur). Eisenhower passed the first civil rights legislation in decades (which at the time was opposed by conservatives), and he cut military spending and warned about the “Military-Industrial Complex.” And he got us out of the Korean War at something less than a victory in it. He sponsored and passed the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956, which led to the federal highway system (at the time conservatives were saying that highways should be paid for by states, or even privately-owned toll roads).
Eisenhower actually EXPANDED the coverage of Social Security.
Eisenhower created the cabinet-level Department of Health, Education, and Welfare and allowed the government to continue to subsidize farmers so that the price of farm products remained high. Eisenhower and he greatly increased the federal funding of the Federal Housing Administration for low-cost housing for poor people, not rich people. Eisenhower called his policy “modern Republicanism.” At the time columnists considered his policy liberal Republicanism or centrism, not conservatism.
While you do not like the John Birch Society, and neither do I. It is a fact that they called Eisenhower a “traitor” and desired to have him impeached (along with Earl Warren).
All we keep hearing is impeach impeach impeach, so when are they going to do that already? They are not going to impeach him, they are going to give him a medal for all the work he has done destroying this country… They are clapping their hands with glee at what is happening and doing the commie goose step up and down the halls….
Q: So when are they going to do that already?
A: (multiple Choice)
1) When Hell Freezes over
2) When pigs fly
2) When Boehner grows some balls
4) Never
5) Dream on, big boy, Dream on.
Both parties are complicit in it and everysingle one of them needs to be removed with obama and tried for war crimes and treason to the United States of America!
Good luck on removing “every single one of them.” But you have the right to dream. The current issue is whether in two years there will be more Republicans in Congress (house and senate) than there are now, and the way things are going now, it is likely there will be less. In fact, Republicans may even lose their control of the House of Representatives. But, you have the right not to vote for any Republican legislator if you do not like her or him. Go right ahead.
Did you miss Article 2, sections 2 and 4 that apply to all holding office and denial of future reprieve by any crony replacement? Or do you also deny that he has assumed the office through a mass of impeachable actions in both parties wherein all are sworn in by oath of office? Can you read or do you simply maintain a false position of citizenship by repeating his survival rhetoric?
Those who know what should be done are not talking. If they are talking, it is among themselves and not to the people who are paying THEM to protect this country. What it bears down to is someone is being blackmailed big time by whatever means and these sorry people are allowing this government to be taken away because of their own sorriness.
“Those who know what should be done are not talking.”
Those who know what should be done have been threatened, directly by the white house, to keep their mouths shut. Something’s gotta bust wide open sooner or later. Preferably sooner.
Here’s another great piece to ponder: http://www.redstate.com/2013/02/28/agenda-how-marxists-are-grinding-america-down/
Excerpt: “They had a three part agenda. They would use their manpower, influence and funds to back anything that would destroy our families, businesses and culture.”
We the People need to DEMAND that Congress impeach Obama for treason! The U.S. Attorney General (Eric Holder) is complicit and will NOT be doing his job of investigating and prosecuting the President, and Congress does not typically act unless spurred on by their constituencies. So, let’s be demanding! http://www.impeachpresidentobama.weebly.com
You have the right to demand. Go right ahead and demand. Demand all you like. But they have the right to ignore you. BTW, if Obama were impeached—which is highly unlikely—then Joe Biden would become president.
Don’t you think that the crazy uncle in the attic would be fun? I’m beginning to think he’d be better than what’s in office now.
Are you suggesting that Joe is immune to the same fate?
Are you nutty enough to think that Congress would impeach them both? (It take a two-thirds vote in the US Senate to remove even one president, much less the president and his vice president at the same time.)
It was reported to both the FBI, and DOJ both of which refuse to take any action to investigate and prosecute, even though there is tremendous evidence available!
There wasn’t any evidence available. Only birther claims that there was evidence. If there were a shred of evidence, the Republican officials, congressmen and state legislators in the affected states, and Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and the National Review, and Karl Rove and Gingrich and Santorum would have said something.
I agree they should put him in jail and throw away the key. Not simply for one treason act, but for all his treason acts, along with all his crimes..Accessory to the Benganzi Murders, trafficing firearms to the mexican drug cartel, and weapon smuggling to our enemies.Fry the SOB
The list just keeps growing does it not?
And let us not forget he is a FELON, guilty of identity theft with his SSN# that was originally issued to Harrison J Bounel, born in the late 1800′s
AND Harrison J. Bounel lived with Moochelle’s 2nd great grandfather, Jim Robinson, in Connecticut in 1910. I smell Bonny & Clyde!
I smell something else, another Bovine Feces covered birther theory.
get ar done
Go for it.
[And Barack Hussein Obama will be an accessory to murder. And that is an impeachable offense.] That maybe so…. BUT, I believe it just might be if a certain Father of a daughter or son who was murdered or even accidently killed by one of these illegal aliens…. impeachment just might not be enough for him. Many who are not Christian believe in the old saying, “Eye for eye and life for life!”
We all must contact our Senators and House Reps. I was successful in confirming two meetings after persistent calls, e-mails and faxes. THEY ARE FINALLY LISTENING. You’d have to be brain dead to not see the destruction the gestapo is causing in this great country. PLEASE, contact your reps.
You do that.
Call them, e-mail them, write them.
And when they don’t do what you want. . .
What will you do then?
Could you be suggesting “lock and load”?
Who do we have in DC that represents one true Red Blooded American and how does Somene who is no more trhan a street pimp occupy the office of Pres, of the US? where are those who took the oath to honor and defend the constitution of the US and arent you glad they arent soldiers out in the field fighting for our freedom? This is the biiggest array of cowards and opportunists I have ever seen and we should do as our Declaration of independence advises and that is to overthrow this illegal occupier and his regime as the Declaration tells us to because if we dont the DHS is going to make its move shortly and you can bet on it. If you want to see ehat evidence has been brought up against the fraud in chief just type The US Supreme Court Dockets on obamas eligibility and see his lie and betrayals on Two different SS# one belonging i think they believe was provided by moochelle and is one of her family members and the other belonged to someone in Connecticut who died in the 1890s. You know these wussies in congress have seen this evidence and they know he is guilty and he is still shouting out executive orders and they allow it.
“…to someone in Connecticut who died in the 1890s. ”
That would be Harrison J Bounel – born in the late 1800′s, supposedly is one of moooooooochell’s ancestors. She is complicit as well and deserves a matching prison cell she could share with piglosi. The crap pile gets deeper and deeper and the heat of the fire has been turned up.
Cows and pigs together in one pen. Won’t that be exciting.
Bettta: “That would be Harrison J Bounel – born in the late 1800′s, supposedly is one of moooooooochell’s ancestors. “
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oooh, more birthery crunchy nuttiness.
—-“one true Red Blooded American”—-
what is the alternative, green blood?
The Connecticut SS number was caused by a data entry error. SS numbers were generated by the zip code of the applicant’s address. Obama’s address in Hawaii was in zip code 96814, and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814.
Millions of people have multiple social security numbers caused mainly by data entry errors:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38678753/How_Many_Social_Security_Numbers_Do_You_Have
http://www.securityworldnews.com/2010/08/12/20-million-americans-have-multiple-social-security-numbers-associated-with-their-name/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20013733-501465.html
But out of all those errors, Obama was the only one to end up with Harrison Bounel registered at the same home with the same social security number.
“Splain that one, shill.
Oh I understand these public policy decisions perfectly!!! They are deliberate, in order to destroy this country’s society, it’s economics, and it’s infrastructure.
We do not know that Harrison Bounel had the same SS number.
“The public record linking Bounel (who no one seems to be able to find) with the SSN did not appear until after the SSN was made public. This leaves the obvious possibility that the public record was derived from a fraudulent use of the public number. The fact that Barack Obama’s address in Chicago is also associated with the record is strong additional reason to think that the record is bogus.” (http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/post-hoc-v-prompter-hoc/)
How do you sleep at night after spreading so many lies, Ellen?
A private investigator and a debt collector/skip tracer using different data bases independently found Bounel’s name and social security number tied to Obama’s home in Chicago.
Obamaconspiracy is a quack site.
Re: “A private investigator and a debt collector/skip tracer using different data bases independently found Bounel’s name and social security number tied to Obama’s home in Chicago.”
Please show any evidence that Bounel’s SS number and Obama’s SS number were the same. Please show the link, not a birther site saying that the detective found it, but the actual document itself, showing Bounel’s SS number. Unless there is a document showing Bounel’s SS number, you cannot say that it was the same as Obama’s.
I’m not your slave. Nor do I help liars or shills. If you want to see the evidence, Google is your friend. Or are you only able to copy and paste what your supervisor hands you?
we the people,who are the real government 1st ovomit/satan ignored a georgia supreme court subpoena{treason/fraud/felony}2nd ovomit/lucifer sent additional throops to afganistan with out congress approval{treason/felony}3rd ovomit has a social security card# that belongs to a dead 119 yr old connecticut person{fraud/felony/treason}4th ovomits wh internet live birth form,is a computor generated{layered forgery{treason/fraud/felony}5th ovomit can mot be verified{treason}6th ovomits father was born in kenyan,making the ineligible treasonous traitor ineligible to be in office{treason against we the people,and the constititution}7th ovmit lied about the bengazi attack,along with rice/hillary/carney stating it was because of video,that was a lie,it was a terrorist attack and 4 american citizens died in the attack,and ovomit and his adminstration never took accountability for this treason.8th ovmit and ag holdup stated they would not arrest any black panties who took part in the voter intimidation in front of a philly voter polling place,this is promoting racial hate crimes,and racial injustice{treason/felony/fraud.we the people,who you mr politicna work for,demand ovomit/ag holdup/pelosi/reid/waters/wasserman/hillary/carney/rice/the black caucas/kagan/sotomayer/napalitano/ginsberg all be immediately arrested for a threat to we the people,and the constitituion for treasonous acts against the constitituion,and we the people.god bless sheriff joe and cold case posse,dr oily taitz,chuck norris,frank serpcio,and all legal american veternas/citizens.yea thou i walk in the vallley of the shadow of death,i will fear no evil/ovomit
Harrison Bounel was living with Moochelle’s 2nd Great Grandfather Jim Robinson in CT in 1910. She has a lot to answer to as well! “According to 1940 census Harry Bounel was born in Russia in 1890. This is the date of birth on some of Lexis records associated with the Social Security number 042-68-4425, worked as a helper in a store. It is hard to read the name of the store, looks like Zonick store . I will try to get records from Russia. I just got off the phone with a Russian reporter. Also, we had some records showing Harry Bounel residing with Robinson family in CT in 1910. I need help in getting any and all info on Michele Robinson Obama’s great grand mother Rose Ella Cohen, the name strikes me as a name of a Jewish woman from Russia. I need to know, if she was married before she married Robinson. [...]“
Re: “ovomits father was born in kenyan,making the ineligible treasonous traitor ineligible to be in office..”
Answer> Obama was born in Hawaii, as shown overwhelmingly by his BC and the confirmation of it by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii and the Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by t he DOH of Hawaii in 1961. And the US Supreme Court ruled in the Wong Kim Ark case that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth, not the parents of a US-born citizen.
Re Harrison Bounel. That was caused by one of millions of errors in the Social Security database, caused mainly by data entry errors by SS clerks.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38678753/How_Many_Social_Security_Numbers_Do_You_Have
http://www.securityworldnews.com/2010/08/12/20-million-americans-have-multiple-social-security-numbers-associated-with-their-name/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20013733-501465.html
Ellen who moved your rock and let you loose……
Birth certificate is a forgery/fake. And all of this information is not simply coincidence or error. Mr. Keep sippin that Koolaid.
Birthers are willful morons, worse than the idiom 9/11 truthers.
Hey, I bet you think that someone other than Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK.
Look out, the chemtrail planes are out today.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Chilidog’s response outs him as a paid shill with his classic Alinsky response.
Obama’s Americans for Action hired 3,575 of them to scour the internet and leave these kinds of inflammatory replies in order to distract and belittle. Obama himself probably wanted to be # 3,576. His mother in law is # 1,286.
I noticed that you have ignored my response to your post above about subjects and citizens.
Does that mean that you are conceding the point?
Aw, the moocher, taker, loafer chilidog has resorted to replying to himself/herself/it. Real popular guy/gal/it. I think he/she/it is having a nuts Saturday. ELLEN, CHILIDOG = DELETE
Hi, Jenny. I love you too.
LOL
Also, Ellen, Mainstream media is in Mr. Bounel/Soetoro/Sarbakah’s(or whoever the hell he is) pocket. There is not “Real” journalism anymore. Look at how they are trying to crucify Mr. Woodward.. I wouldn’t waste my time watching CBS or CNBC all owned by Mr. Barry Soetoro’s puppetmaster.
Ellen was it the Social Security Admin’s fault that Harrison Bounel was listed as living at the Obama residence? No, that comes from Chicago land records. Sorry, but your defense fails.
So somehow Obama mistakenly got Bounel’s SS AND he is also listed by Chicago land records at the Obama Chicago residence. The chances of those two things happening are like getting hit with a meteor twice.
Again, you’ve been informed that common law applies to “subjects” not “citizens.” The difference between subjects and citizens is like the difference between slaves and free people. Natural born CITIZEN comes from “Law of Nations” by a FRENCH author not from ENGLISH common law.
If the Hawaiian health department statements were correct, then Obama’s BC wouldn’t be a proven fraud. But the forensic evidence indicates that it is a total fraud. The forensic evidence trumps the rest.
The only reason for Obama to submit a fraudulent BC is that he was not born in the US.
Could the reason also include that he is the bastard son of an avowed communist porn producer on FBI watch list for 17 years?
While I don’t doubt much Frank Marshall Davis was the inseminator, there is evidence from various sources that Barry was born in Kenya. Recall also that the international Customs flight records for the first week of August disappeared although every other week for that year was located.
When the Kenyan family saw the light skinned baby, they had a good idea something wasn’t quite right and shipped her back to the states.
Here is the statement by the teacher who recalled writing home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii in Kapiolani Hospital of a child to a woman named Stanley:
http://wayback.archive.org/web/jsp/Interstiti…
Here is the Index Data:
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/201…
Here are the birth notices that appeared in the Hawaii newspaper in August 1961. At the time only notices sent by the DOH of Hawaii appeared in that section of the newspaper (headed “Health Bureau Statistics”, and the DOH only sent out those notices for births in Hawaii
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/oba…
Only the bureau of health, the DOH, could send notices to that section, and the DOH in 1961 only sent birth notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and it was not allowed to issue birth certificates to children who were born outside of Hawaii.
Moreover, it remains NUTTY to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (They weren’t. Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank) or crazy enough to send their pregnant daughter at huge expense and high risk of stillbirth (and of Yellow Fever, which was endemic in Kenya) to Kenya or to any other country—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
What are you going to do next, Ellen…give us a quote from Mr. Ed, the famous talking horse? It would be as useful as the ones you’ve provided so far, including at least the first three links which go no where.. See when you copy and paste from from your shill bosses, it’s easy to screw up.
Again you are really dense. The health depart ACCEPTED AS FACT witnesses who claimed they were relatives filing birth notices with the department. The newspapers published what they got from the health department.
Despite your claim from the bad link, the health department ISSUED COLB’s for anyone family witnesses who applied. This was shown in the Arpiao press conference. The regualtion was put up on the screen!!
So no matter how many times you quote Mr. Ed or some drunk on the wharf or your mother’s uncle’s cousin, the HI health department regulation says otherwise!!
Your presumptions about who paid for the tickets or the grandparent’s willingness to help pay the bill for the ticket are duly noted. Not that they mean a damn thing.
The statement of the school teacher was removed from wayback.com because it was returned to the Buffalo News. Here it is:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm
As you can see, she says that she wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley. Well, it is possible for you to claim that she is lying about writing the letter. But her father’s name really was Stanley.
This is not proof by itself, but it is good confirmation to the birth certificate and the confirmation by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii.
Here is a working link to the Index Data file:
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html
Here is a working link to the birth announcements:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php
Re: “the health depart ACCEPTED AS FACT witnesses who claimed they were relatives filing birth notices with the department. The newspapers published what they got from the health department. ”
Yes, we agree, if a witness lied and claimed that a person was born in Hawaii, the DOH would accept it. But according to the PUMA Lori Steinfeld, Hawaii wanted additional confirmation if there was only one witness and that one witness was a relative. They would ask for a statement from a doctor or midwife, and the witness statement and the confirmation by the doctor or midwife WOULD GO INTO THE FILE, so that when Obama’s long form birth certificate was published, showing that he was born in Kapiolani Hospital, the witness statement in the file would have proved that the Kapiolani address was a lie. BUT, that did not happen.
So, if you are claiming that the birth notices are not additional confirmation because witness statements could be used and sometimes witnesses lie, that is broadly true. But it is only true if (1) a relative AND a confirming doctor or midwife all lied about the place of birth; and (2) the officials in Hawaii are lying now about the birth certificate in the files saying that Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital.
Re: “Your presumptions about who paid for the tickets or the grandparent’s willingness to help pay the bill for the ticket are duly noted. Not that they mean a damn thing.”
They mean a great deal. If Obama’s relatives were too poor to send their daughter on a long and expensive trip to a foreign country, they would not do it. And if it was risky in those days to send a pregnant woman thousands of miles to a foreign country, they would not to it either. Well, both of those things were true; (1) Obama’s relatives were not rich by any means, and a trip to Kenya cost LOTS of money in those days; and (2) it was highly risky because of the high incidence of stillbirths for women to travel late in pregnancy (and because she was attending college, she could not have traveled early in pregnancy). So, Obama’s mother having traveled outside of the USA in 1961 is highly unlikely based purely on the cost and risk.
In addition to those two obvious facts, there is the fact that the Kenyan government says that Obama certainly was not born there, and the Hawaiian government says that Obama was born there, in Kapiolani Hospital, which BTW is these days confirming that Obama was indeed born there. Want to see the links?
No, your presumptions about how much money Barry’s grandfather made don’t mean a damn thing. You don’t know how much he earned.
You also don’t know who paid for the tickets. Obama, Sr. had enough money to travel to Hawaii, didn’t he? Why yes he did!
Re: “Obama, Sr. had enough money to travel to Hawaii, didn’t he? Why yes he did!’
Actually, NO HE DIDN’T. He came on a special free flight. Repeat, FREE.
Moreover, government expenditure (USA and/or Kenyan) or philanthropy to send Obama’s father ONCE to Hawaii for his education, is by no means the same thing as a government spending money to send Obama’s mother while she was pregnant to Kenya to give birth—which most governments and philanthropists would consider a high risk and low reward deal, in other words a waste of money.
What we DO know is that Obama’s father did not travel in 1961. We know that from WND’s FOI Act request, which shows that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961. So, the notion that Obama’s father had enough money to pay for his wife to go to Kenya without him coming along is far-fetched. And it is further unlikely because of IF Obama’s mother had indeed gone to Kenya, his father certainly would have wanted to go along (and he didn’t).
So, again, there is no evidence that they had enough money to spend on sending Obama’s mother to Kenya, and it still would have been an expensive, highly risky (in addition to the constant threat of stillbirth, Yellow Fever was endemic in Kenya at the time) and unnecessary thing to do—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Hawaii.
“So, again, there is no evidence that they had enough money to spend on sending Obama’s mother to Kenya,”
There is NO EVIDENCE they didn’t have enough money either!
There is no evidence Stanley returned from Kenya because the records are suspiciously missing.
Thanks, Jenny!
YW! Check out essay by Paul Hollrah called THE FRAUD IN THE WHITE HOUSE…just posted, but awaiting moderation.
Here’s link: http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2013/03/another-great-essay-by-paul-r-hollrah.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Re: “There is no evidence Stanley returned from Kenya because the records are suspiciously missing.”
Since there were no direct flights from Kenya to Hawaii that is irrelevant. Obamas’ mother would have had to have gone through the normal gateway, New York, and those records are NOT missing.
If you really think that Obama COULD have been born in another country. You could answer the following questions:
Questions for those who continue to believe that Obama was born outside of the USA.
I’ll bet that you know (but you may have forgotten) that the US government requires, and has long required, that a child being carried into the USA requires some kind of official travel document to be admitted. This is usually a US passport for the child. Or, it could be the fact that the child is entered on the mother’s US passport. Or, it could be a US visa for the child on a foreign passport. Without one of those, we would not let the child into the country.
(Sure, a child could be carried across the Mexican border, but Hawaii does not have a border with Mexico, so that can be eliminated as a possiblity.)
So, IF Obama really had been born in Kenya (or in any country other than the USA), he would have had to have one of those documents–wouldn’t he? His family would have had to show the passport, wouldn’t they? To show the passport, they would have had to have applied for the passport or the visa for Obama. And, if Obama really were born in Kenya (or another country), they would have had to have applied for it in the US consulate or embassy in that country, wouldn’t they?
Such applications are FILED by the US government. The documents exist in multiple files, the actual application itself, communication about it with Washington, entries in the passport file, entries in the application file, entries in the places where the child is carried into the USA. The Bush Administration was in charge of the State Department and the INS for eight years before Obama was elected. Don’t you think that they would have checked the claim that he was born outside the USA?
All they had to do was find one of those files and McCain would win the election.
Well, they never did. There is no such file.
So the question is, do you think that the Bush Administration was part of the plot?
Do you think that the files, the documents, the application for the documents, the communications about the documents were all lost or hidden? Remember, they are in multiple files, the file of the passport holder, the files of applications for passports, the files in the US embassy in foreign countries, the files in the State Department and those in the INS (which would have checked in Obama at an entry point if he had actually traveled in 1961)––and yet no document has been found. Why not?
The absence of the travel document, plus the Hawaii birth certificate, plus the confirmation of the facts on the Hawaii birth certificate by THREE Republican (and several Democrat officials in Hawii) plus the notices in the Hawaii “Health Bureau Statistics” sections of the newspapers, which were sent to the papers ONLY by the DOH of Hawaii and only for births in Hawaii. How do you explain all that?
Re: “Ellen was it the Social Security Admin’s fault that Harrison Bounel was listed as living at the Obama residence? No, that comes from Chicago land records.’
Yes he did, at one time. But he did not have Obama’s SS number, only birther sites said that he did, and they did not show proof.
Bounel was born in 1890. He also lived in CT.
In the initial investigation it was found that the person who initially had the 042 social security number was born in 1890. It has also been determined that the number was a CT SS number. At that time, that number was only issued from their CT offices.
The initial indication was that the number belonged to a different CT resident.
The number was issued when Obama would have been about 17, at about the time Bounel would have gone to a nursing home, and two years after Barry worked at a Baskin-Robbins in HI. Any nursing home would have required a SS# to collect medicare payments.
Now would you please explain how Bounel was recorded by the city of Chicago at Obama’s home with the same SS number Obama still uses on his tax returns??
Re: “Bounel was born in 1890. He also lived in CT. ”
Yes, but did he have Obama’s SS number?
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/post-hoc-v-prompter-hoc/
Yes, Obama did receive a SS number when he was about 17, which would probably have been when he got his first job. Yes, it was a CT SS number, but there are millions of errors in the SS system. Re nursing home: Yes, but Obama has not entered a nursing home.
Re: “Now would you please explain how Bounel was recorded by the city of Chicago at Obama’s home with the same SS number Obama still uses on his tax returns??”
Because only a birther has claimed that Bounel had the same SS number as Obama. The birther saw Obama’s published SS number and CLAIMED that Bunel had the same one, but there is no independent proof of it. As Dr Conspiracy notes:
“The other thing that birthers associate with the Obama SSN is the date 1890, and they have generally linked the Bounel name with that date of birth. If that is indeed so, then a 119-year-old Bounel did something in 2009 to create a public record of his social-security record at Barack Obama’s house.”
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/post-hoc-v-prompter-hoc/
Oh, and by the way, Obama no longer uses the published SS number. He got a new one, which is the reason that the published one failed E-Verify. (The E-Verifty check by birthers was done after Obama cancelled the old one. )
Ellen you’ve got to stop believing the absolute lies you’ve been fed.
The actual documents have been shown on various websites including the investigative news site WND. These documents weren’t found by birthers. They were found by a private investigator and by a debt collector. If they became convinced afterwards that Obama is a fraud, that doesn’t make them “birthers.” It makes them patriots who believe in the Constitution.
Furthermore, the SS# isn’t an issue of Obama’s birth. Only a retard would think so.
Re: “Furthermore, the SS# isn’t an issue of Obama’s birth. Only a retard would think so.”
I absolutely agree, and I have never claimed that Obama’s SS number or the fact that it was a CT SS number has anything to do with his place of birth, which was—of course–in Hawaii.
Re: “The actual documents have been shown on various websites including the investigative news site WND. ”
Please show the link that says that Bounel’s SS number was the same as Obama’s SS number.
“Please show the link that says that Bounel’s SS number was the same as Obama’s SS number.”
Sorry, I don’t help liars and shills. Look it up yourself.
She reminds me of Charlie Brown. He/she/it/ellen is a blockhead. Nothing penetrates it. I see her name and I can’t stop laughing. It’s beyond hysterical. He/she/it/ellen is one that will never believe the truth…even as her boy is led out in handcuffs with Moochelle following behind. Just a matter of time. To converse with he/she/it/ellen is like conversing with a deaf/blind/dumb fool. Charlie Brown was lovable, he/she/it/ellen is pathetically naive.
I commend you for your patience. Thank YOU for your patriotism.
Re: “Sorry, I don’t help liars and shills. Look it up yourself.”
Then, what you claim is not true.
Again you are wrong the case states “The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: The fourteenth amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens…Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States. His allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate…and his child, as said by Mr. Binney in his essay before quoted, ‘If born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen…’ ”
IS AS MUCH a CITIZEN as the NATURAL-BORN child of a citizen!! IT never sasys such birth is a NATURAL-BORN citizen….. know the facts!!! Above is the direct blurb of it!!
That ruling does not, but this one does:
“It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.
III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.’
That was the Wong Kim Ark case, and it clearly said that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen came from the common law and referred to the place of birth and that EVERY child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born US Citizen. And, if you should not trust the evidence of your own eyes, in fact TEN appeals courts have all ruled that the Wong Kim Ark ruling said exactly that, that every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born US Citizen.
Here are some of them:
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling: “Those born “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency,
Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 – Appellate Court) ruling: “Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”
Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling: “It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.”
Purpura v. Obama (New Jersey 2012) ruling: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.”
Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling: “However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that ‘[e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States. ‘Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion. [The judge cites Hollander and Ankeny]
Allen v. Obama (Arizona 2012) ruling: “Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, Arizona v. Jay J. Garfield Bldg. Co. , 39 Ariz. 45, 54, 3 P.2d 983, 986(1931), and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. … Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise.”
It is fun to watch the lunacy of this evil as it all implodes from within. I am unable to see his image without getting nauseous, but I listened to part of his propaganda. He’s becoming totally unhinged, words of a real madman trying to scare the masses and blaming Republicans for HIS sequestration brilliancy. He knows the world is watching and we’ve found him out. Must also say if this was the communists’ plan for decades, they certainly chose the wrong person to transform America! His idiocy is becoming more and more transparent. LOVING IT.
—“I am unable to see his image without getting nauseous,”—
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Is this reaction limited to just when you see an image of the President, or do you feel that way when you see an image of anyone who does not look like you?
That’s really insulting and if you knew me or my family, you’d understand. Don’t make asinine statements unless you know the facts.
—”Don’t make asinine statements unless you know the facts.”
LOL That’s funny coming from a birther.
LOL, how original. Do you think calling me a birther offends me? Think again squirt/ellen/chilidog/he/she/it.
I don’t intend that as an insult, just a label.
If you were a 9/11 truther, I’d call you that too.
Never forget that your enjoyment in watching him squirm could have occurred much sooner without the cover up by lapdog media. Never forget that your enjoyment in watching him squirm could have occurred much sooner without the cover up by lapdog media that only change when their advertising income base is threatened by consumer boycott. All participating in the misinformation and omission have volunteered to be complicit in treasonous acts.
Lut us STOP TALKING and IMPEACH this TYRANT – FRAUD.
In so doing, he , OBONZO , will LEARNt we still do have a CONSTITUTION ; BILL OF RITES AND AMENDMENTS THERE TO that this ** JOKER ** has to live within.
IIf he, ONBONZO – the magnificent one – doesn’t like this set of rules, WE JOPHNQ. PUBLIC can stick it where the SUN DOESN”T SHINE. for this FRAUDULENT- TYRANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Perhaps you have forgotten, but the right wing wanted to impeach Eisenhower.
ellen, The only thing you have proven on this blog is that you are the typical liberal without a conscience! All of us already knew that so don’t waste your time.
Ellen has just announced that she is left defenseless by calling up the dead, past officeholders and other party.
Last night I sent John Boehner an email asking him why hasn’t he or ANYONE started the impeachment process. I strongly urge other readers to do the same. Obama, Holder, Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein are in the process of hurting/destroying our country. They ALL have done things that should have gotten them removed but, no one has stepped up and started fighting back. Fighting back HARD. Call, fax, email Boehner and others and demand them to impeach this Kenyan. This is for us now and our children and for future generations. Socialism cannot be a part of America. Let Boehner know. As they say……”Just do it”
That’s really great. Strength in numbers, our voices are being heard. Our politicians, who work for us, have played “business as usual” far too long. Not only are they listening, the tyrant-in-chief had heard us as well. Notice how he stated today he “is not a dictator.” The dictator has hit a brick wall…nowhere for him to go now.
Everyone keep up the good work. It will all pay off.
Ten Bucks says that that e-mail never makes it past the spam filter.
At best you will get an automatic replay that says “Do not reply to this e-mail.”
Would you care to bet that ballooning firearms sales will also get the same reaction or that you can successfully hide to avoid the coming storm?
Obama has fail as our President .Americans who voted for Obama has failed our nation. We need more cut in the growth of Government. Obama is spending 21/2 times a year what Bush spent in one year.Obama is reckless with opur nations security by wasting our money. Obama has mortgaged America’s future.
Americans who voted for him are enemies of the USA as far as I’m concerned. That includes that ellen person who slithered in here from somewhere. OH! and lets not forget who dragged him in here first…Oprah. Wonder how much SHE knows. I know moooochele dissed Oprah from the white house.
Oprah has no excuse. She used to be a news reporter back in the day. She did no research on this bum?
Lets be very clear about obozo and treason,the facts are he has commited multiple acts of treason by knowingly being in office illegaly which is easily proved and a given plus all of his dealings funding and supplying the muslim brotherhood who are our very well known enemy’s are all acts of treason plain and simple and to make it even worse during a time of war and hs is still commiting treason by supplying the rebels in Syria(the bad rebels,not the good one) with weapons and money and not going thu the congress and or the senate and every one of these things I’v listed are all on the records and very well documented so he cannot talk or dance his way out of them and he has no credible defence for all of them either so why has he not been impeached yet.Their going to have to remove him soon or face the wrath of the people which is not all that far fetched either and the military is not going to defend him and or the government should we rebel cause their going to be with us on our side
I think that this was a mistake ordering those prisoners to be released as Obama did. I think it was totally out of revenge because Obama did not get his way..I think we will pay for such a move on down the road and it will be laid entirely on this presidents shoulders.
The release of felons seems to be of a similar piece as the Fast & Furious, and Benghazi decisions. In each case there is in common a cold blooded, ruthless arrogance to them.
It’s like they are saying, “F— Y–,America, we will do whatever WE please, whenever WE wish to do it.”
The immigrants who were released still eventually face deportation and are required to appear for upcoming court hearings. But they are no longer confined in immigration jails, where advocacy experts say they cost about $164 per day per person.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/01/thousands-illegal-immigrants-already-released-according-to-report/#ixzz2MNuGMlND
Good grief, Ellen, in that case, we should let ALL federal felons out of jail! Think of the money we will save!!
The only illegals held by ICE are the ones with a criminal record beyond their illegal alien status. Obama let these crooks out. You think they will report for trial now that they are free as a bird??? Pfffft. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Someone will get murdered and someone will get raped due to this action. But look on the bright side: it saved the federal government $164. Or maybe Michelle could cut back on her vacations. Those cost tax payers a million dollars a day, which means we could have kept 1,600 prisoners in jail.
Those in his cabinet get that much in 15 minutes. What is your point?
“After Obama is impeached and removed from office—and impeachment proceedings should begin immediately—today—Barack Hussein Obama should be tried and convicted as an accessory to murder.”
He’s an clear accessory to murder in Benghazi, Libya but no Grand Jury has been impaneled to determine his culpability. What makes anyone think that the murder of Americans by released criminals which cannot be tied directly to Obama will result in any kind of punishment? Wake up people! Obama does what he wants to do and NO ONE has even tried to stop him! The best they manage is to go through the motions.
Benghazi was a mistake, not a crime.
Ellen, a mistake? No Ellen, ask your parents, you are a mistake. Obama is a criminal, a liar, a deceiver and should be in jail along with those who are attempting to overthrow this nation. Those who support him are either ignorant or treasonous. The latter should be in jail as well. Where do YOU fit in?
Actually it was a meeting with the Turkish ambassador in a building not specified as an embassy or consulate in furtherance of the gun running operation to AlQaeda in Syria thru Turkey.
Now that Steven is dead, the Obama admin admits it is sending weapons Syria. IOW. An Obama illegal war.
The crime is in the attempted cover up and blame of a movie producer to justify the “uprising” by his Muslim brothers.
Obama is a nothing. A thief who stole the American vote. He is in total contrast with Jesus and makes out like he is a Christian when it is convenient to do so.
Jesus’ mother is honored– Obama’s mother disgraceful
Jesus father who raised him on earth is a loyal good man– Obama’s father a total loser and on who abandoned him.
Jesus the son of God– Obama the son of and follower of evil.
Jesus leads in Truth– Obama is a liar and deceiver.
Jesus loves the Church– Obama hates Christians and is trying to overthrow God.
Jesus loves all people– Obama pretends to despise ‘rich’ people (he is one) and pretends he is a ‘regular guy’ in order to deceive the masses. Obama is a Hollywood (carnival people) suck up who plays up to the gays for money. He has sold his soul to hell in order to promote evil throughout this land.
Obama has prostituted himself and calls bad good and good bad to confuse the masses.
Obama is the opposite of Jesus and all that is good and decent.
–“Jesus’ mother is honored– Obama’s mother disgraceful”–
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“Jesus’ mother is honored” – Only by the Catholics.
“Obama’s mother disgraceful” – How so?
–“Jesus father who raised him on earth is a loyal good man– Obama’s father a total loser and on who abandoned him.”–
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So? Doesn’t that make him all the more stronger and admirable for his success? Compare, for instance President Obama with Mitt Romney. Mitt was born to a rich man and his success later in life was due to the advantages he inherited as the son of a rich man.
Here you go again, spewing untruths. Research it, Mitt Romney gave EVERY PENNY inherited by his father to CHARITY. Be proud of your boy though, the to-be-convicted felon’s time is coming. You can take that to the bank.
B.S. Who paid for Mitt to go to all those fancy prep schools?
Mitt may have given away the money he got from his dad’s estate after his death, but he sure as hell didn’t give away all the money his dad gave him before he died.
(That’s how the rich pass on their wealth and avoid inheritance taxes)
And you know the charge you’ve made is true because….
Did you find that in the “pulled out of my a**” file?
In your world, as a child Mitt would have taken any checks his father made out to pay for his schooling and torn them up. Okay Mitt is guilty as charged: His father took him to Disney land while Obama’s father took him to Kenya.
It seems that childlapdog is following ellensmellin by changing the subject to something or some one that is no threat to the republic in lieu of substantial subject matter. Being abandoned as a bastard son of Frank Marshall Davis can never be acceptable by the electorate and they all know it.
–“Obama is a nothing. A thief who stole the American vote.”–
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He stole all those electoral votes? Wow. That must have been some trick. it’s lucky we have you around to notice.
–“Jesus the son of God– Obama the son of and follower of evil.”
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So, Barack Obama Sr. is evil and somehow, President Obama “follows” him. But wait, in the last sentence, you said that his father abandoned him. How could Barack Obama Sr have influenced evil on his son if he abandoned him? You are contradicting yourself.
Beautifully written. Thanks for the reminder. We all need that, especially now.
It was Snowball that destroyed the windmill. We must, like Boxer, work harder. If ObamaNapoleon says it, it’s right.
Come on, folks, get with the program. One court case ruled that both parents of a child must be American citizens for the child to be “natural born”. Obama’s father is undeniably a Kenyan.
THIS IS A MUST LISTEN AND VIEW (APP. 1 HOUR)
PAUL IREY, a document expert with fifty years of experience claims he can prove that Barack Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate Is Fake. AT THIS POINT IT IS IRRELEVANT WHERE THE LOSER WAS BORN, THE BC IS A FORGERY, THE CRIME IS A FELONY, A FELON CANNOT HOLD OFFICE OF PRESIDENCY.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/markgillar/2013/02/28/50-year-document-expert-obamas-birth-certificate-is-fake
Paul Irey was a typesetter, a defunct profession. He has no experience in document forensics.
He’s a loser who was unable to convince a judge of his claims.
Why don’t you crawl back on your hole with the rest of the termites.
When the insults come out, I know that someone is fresh out of arguments.
Drive home safely.
Fresh out of arguments, don’t think so. Exasperated by a fool, yes.
No one is defending poor Paul.
Where did he get his training in document forensics?
So, if you think that Congress should impeach Obama, then go down to your congresscritter’s office and let him or her know that.
Do it loudly and often. Make a real pest out of yourself.
God Bless Pastor Manning for speaking the whole truth and nothing but the truth. “He’s destroying the fabric and fiber of the nation.”
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/dr-james-david-manning-exposes-barack-obama-america-has-been-pushed-far-enough-video-2580884.html
Pastor Manning?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA
OMG, that is too funny.
Caught you listening MacDaddy.
Naw, his shtick is old and long dismissed.
I don’t need to listen to him repeat it.
If I’m a MacDaddy, you must be one of my Ho’s
Why is that all male libs are either perverts or they can’t think straight? According to a UCLA study, the majority of demoRAT women look like men. Therefore, both men and women alike on dem side will always have a chip on their shoulder towards normal thinking Americans. We represent normalcy, i.e., church, family, work, culture, all the things you detest. Take a look at the DNC, you’re a part of that. BE PROUD.
Jenny, why are you so obsessed with sex?
Is Pastor Manning going to have another one of his “Citizen Grand Juries?”
LOL LOL LOL
Ben Carson, M.D., and Sean Hannity, March 1, 2013. This man is phenominal. “The demagoguery would be laughable if it wasn’t so tragic.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Q72dUw2QQ
Like I’ve said, when his own turns, his tyranny is coming to an end ~> http://www.humanevents.com/2013/02/28/obamas-hometown-newspaper-takes-him-to-task-on-sequestration/
“We can’t know why Obama, the man with the most secure job in Washington, isn’t leading rescue efforts for entitlement programs, as he promised to do even before he took office four years ago.”
Subject: READ, Take Action by Leading, Stop being complicit in FRAUD!
Dear members of the Judiciary and Ethics Committees: This letter being CC to 100s of news outlets! WE THE PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!
We have a serious problem both with the Judiciary system and ETHICS with all representatives in government! I am a simple American citizen so forgive me if I call it like I see it! ARE YOU ALL CORRUPT? I’m sorry if this question leaves you mad, but your actions and likewise lack of action leaves all American citizens questioning your LOYALTY to the United States of America and likewise your FAILURE of oath of office, which I remind you includes protecting this country against all enemies foreign and domestic! Again, forgive me for saying THIS COUNTRY, not our country because while I am loyal to the United States it has become clear that many of you, if not all of you, are loyal to any country but the United States as shown by your actions and complicity in lack of actions!
Answer the following questions:
1. Should a person with terrorist and Anti-American ties be allowed a position within any of the three branches of government?
2. Should a person in areas of government be fully investigated before holding a position that gives them access to Government Top Secret information?
3. Is it alright for a person to use forged documents to get a position within the three branches of government?
4. Is it alright for a person not registered with the Selective Service to be allowed to hold a position within the three branches of government?
5. Is it alright to be complicit in such actions and refuse to investigate and prosecute if you are made aware of such actions as those listed in 1-4 above?
Now read the following information below and please email myself back the answers to the questions 1-5 above! Why is the judiciary burying cases, not docketing them, not hearing them? Let it be known that every United States citizen has standing, as the agenda being pushed by fraud in office affects each and every one of us! If you were to uphold you oath of office questions 1-5 should have the following answers: 1 NO, 2 YES, 3 NO, 4 NO, 5 NO…. Through every single one of your actions you have done:
1. Yes… You must believe this as Obama doesn’t have a few but rather numerous Communistic, Marxist, and Extremist connections!
2. No… You must believe this as none of you are aware of all the fraud, corruption, and anti-American ties that Obama has, or are you complicit in criminal and anti-american elements running out government?
3. Yes… You must believe this as none of you will take action against this!
4. Yes… You must believe this as none of you will take action against this!
5. Yes… You must be complicit as shown through your lack of action to remove this fraud and criminal from office! Least I remind you he never won the presidential race… the extensive voter fraud was outright proven and likewise he isn’t a natural born citizen, as his father was never an American citizen! PERIOD! Thus his criminal activities of forgery of both birth certificate and selective service registration, and his requisitioned SSN “I’m being nice as he has been associated with 16 SSNs. Who in general is associated with this much fraud?? ANSWER = A CRIMINAL!! NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? Likewise, every single one of you politicians know the true meaning of what it means to be natural born, this was the reason that for 4-5 years preceding obama running for president there was repeated attempts to change the presidential requirements be changed from natural born to that of a US citizen! Likewise, also the changing on the qualification as being CONSTITUTIONALLY eligible was changed in the Hawaii and a few other states as to not say CONSTITUTIONALLY ELIGIBLE!
Like I said I’m just a simple citizen and I can outright see this, and let me make myself clear I am in no way RACIST! I could care less about the color of a persons skin, but I do care about HONESTY, TRANSPARENCY, and TRUE LEADERSHIP! Likewise, at this given point every single one of you by failure to uphold your oath of office have been instrumental in undermining the constitution of the United States! Since Obama has taken office, all five of the first 5 amendments have been attacked by this administration. The worst of which is your complicity in allowing a DEFACTO President to build his own private Army, given him the right to have a Hit List of American Citizens, allowed his killing of American Citizens with no trial/hearing! Thus, this makes every single one of you an accessory to murder and earning of the title of being a War Criminal! Thus, to clear your name and save this nation WE DEMAND you take action, remove this criminal from office…. (He doesn’t need to be impeached, as he is ineligible… JUST VETT him! You vetted McCain, is because Obama being black means he doesn’t require to be vetted? The Truth will free this nation! I remind you that every single one of you and your vote records to obliterate our inalienable rights is being annotated by millions of people! Read the following below and DO what you KNOW is right! Failure to act will end with us THE PEOPLE fighting to remove every single one of you complicit with these criminal and fraudulent activities being committed in government. Is this one fraud and outright criminal worth you ever holding an office to represent us THE PEOPLE ever again? Those who stand behind him we will fight to have prosecuted as aiding and abetting a known criminal!
STANDING
The legal right to initiate a lawsuit. To do so, a person must be sufficiently affected by the matter at hand, and there must be a case or controversy that can be resolved by legal action.There are three requirements for Article III standing: (1) injury in fact, which means an invasion of a legally protected interest that is (a) concrete and particularized, and (b) actual or imminent, not conjectural or hypothetical; (2) a causal relationship between the injury and the challenged conduct, which means that the injury fairly can be traced to the challenged action of the defendant, and has not resulted from the independent action of some third party not before the court; and (3) a likelihood that the injury will be redressed by a favorable decision, which means that the prospect of obtaining relief from the injury as a result of a favorable ruling is not too speculative. Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife, 112 S. Ct. 2130, 2136 (1992) (Lujan). The party invoking federal jurisdiction bears the burden of establishing each of these elements. Id.
In deciding whether xxx has standing, a court must consider the allegations of fact contained in xxx’s declaration and other affidavits in support of his assertion of standing. See Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 501 (1974) (Warth). see also Warth, 422 U.S. at 501 (when addressing motion to dismiss for lack of standing, both district court and court of appeals must accept as true all material allegations of the complaint and must construe the complaint in favor of the party claiming standing).
Standing is founded “in concern about the proper–and properly limited–role of the courts in a democratic society. ” Warth, 422 U.S. at 498. When an individual seeks to avail himself of the federal courts to determine the validity of a legislative action, he must show that he “is immediately in danger of sustaining a direct injury.” Ex parte Levitt, 302 U.S. 633, 634 (1937). This requirement is necessary to ensure that “federal courts reserve their judicial power for `concrete legal issues, presented in actual cases, not abstractions.’ ” Associated General Contractors of California v. Coalition for Economic Equity, 950 F.2d 1401, 1406 (9th Cir. 1991) (quoting United Public Workers, 330 U.S. at 89), cert. denied, 112 S. Ct. 1670 (1992). National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), 42 U.S.C. S 4331, et seq.
YOU ARE BEING NOTIFIED SO YOU CAN’T PLAY DUMB AND SAY YOU DON’T KNOW!
Consider the Obama-related coincidences:
Obama just happened to know 60s far-left radical revolutionary William Ayers, whose father just happened to be Thomas Ayers, who just happened to be a close friend of Obama’s communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis, who just happened to work at the communist-sympathizing Chicago Defender with Vernon Jarrett, who just happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born leftist Valerie Jarrett, who Obama just happened to choose as his closest White House advisor, and who just happened to have been CEO of Habitat Company, which just happened to manage public housing in Chicago, which just happened to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state legislature, and which just happened not to properly maintain the housing—which eventually just happened to require demolition.
Valerie Jarrett also just happened to work for the city of Chicago, and just happened to hire Michelle LaVaughan Robinson (later Obama), who just happened to have worked at the Sidley Austin law firm, where former fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also just happened to work, and where Barack Obama just happened to get a summer job.
Bernardine Dohrn just happened to be married to William Ayers, with whom she just happened to have hidden from the FBI at a San Francisco marina, along with Donald Warden, who just happened to change his name to Khalid al-Mansour, and Warden/al-Mansour just happened to be a mentor of Black Panther Party founders Huey Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and al-Mansour just happened to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince, who just happened to donate cash to Harvard, for which Obama just happened to get a critical letter of recommendation from Percy Sutton, who just happened to have been the attorney for Malcolm X, who just happened to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, who just happened to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., who just happened to meet Malcolm X when he traveled to Kenya.
Obama, Sr. just happened to have his education at the University of Hawaii paid for by the Laubach Literacy Institute, which just happened to have been supported by Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, who just happened to be a friend of Malcolm X, who just happened to have been associated with the Nation of Islam, which was later headed by Louis Farrakhan, who just happens to live very close to Obama’s Chicago mansion, which also just happens to be located very close to the residence of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who just happen to have been occasional baby-sitters for Malia and Natasha Obama, whose parents just happen not to mind exposing their daughters to bomb-making communists.
After attending Occidental College and Columbia University, where he just happened to have foreign Muslim roommates, Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation, an organization that just happened to have been founded by Marxist and radical agitator Saul “the Red” Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals, who just happened to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s thesis at Wellesley College, and Obama’s $25,000 salary at IAF just happened to be funded by a grant from the Woods Fund, which was founded by the Woods family, whose Sahara Coal company just happened to provide coal to Commonwealth Edison, whose CEO just happened to be Thomas Ayers, whose son William Ayers just happened to serve on the board of the Woods Fund, along with Obama.
Obama also worked on voter registration drives in Chicago in the 1980s and just happened to work with leftist political groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Socialist International (SI), through which Obama met Carl Davidson, who just happened to travel to Cuba during the Vietnam War to sabotage the U.S. war effort, and who just happened to be a former member of the SDS and a member of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, which just happened to sponsor a 2002 anti-war rally at which Obama spoke, and which just happened to have been organized by Marilyn Katz, a former SDS activist and later public relations consultant who just happened to be a long-time friend of Obama’s political hatchet man, David Axelrod.
Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose pastor was Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator who just happened to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-American sermons, which Obama just happened never to hear because he just happened to miss church only on the days when Wright was at his “most enthusiastic,” and Obama just happened never to notice that Oprah Winfrey left the church because it was too radical, and just happened never to notice that the church gave the vile anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award.
Although no one had ever heard of him at the time, Obama just happened to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book about race relations, which he just happened to fail to write while using the cash to vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle, and despite his record of non-writing he just happened to receive a second advance, for $40,000, from another publisher, and he eventually completed a manuscript called Dreams From My Father, which just happened to strongly reflect the writing style of William Ayers, who just happened to trample on an American flag for the cover photograph of the popular Chicago magazine, which Obama just happened never to see even though it appeared on newsstands throughout the city.
Obama was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland, which just happened to specialize in negotiating state government contracts to develop low-income housing, and which just happened to deal with now-imprisoned Tony Rezko and his firm Rezar, and with slumlord Valerie Jarrett, and the law firm’s Judson Miner just happened to have been a classmate of Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers.
In 1994 Obama represented ACORN and another plaintiff in a lawsuit against Citibank for denying mortgages to blacks (Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Federal Savings Bank), and the lawsuit just happened to result in banks being blackmailed into approving subprime loans for poor credit risks, a trend which just happened to spread nationwide, and which just happened to lead to the collapse of the housing bubble, which just happened to help Obama defeat John McCain in the 2008 presidential election.
In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the “New Party,” which just happened to promote Marxism, and Obama was supported by Dr. Quentin Yong, a socialist who just happened to support a government takeover of the health care system.
In late 1999 Obama purportedly engaged in homosexual activities and cocaine-snorting in the back of a limousine with a man named Larry Sinclair, who claims he was contacted in late 2007 by Donald Young, who just happened to be the gay choir director of Obama’s Chicago church and who shared information with Sinclair about Obama, and Young just happened to be murdered on December 23, 2007, just weeks after Larry Bland, another gay member of the church, just happened to be murdered, and both murders just happened to have never been solved. In 2008 Sinclair held a press conference to discuss his claims, and just happened to be arrested immediately after the event, based on a warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who just happens to be the son of Joe Biden.
In 2003 Obama and his wife attended a dinner in honor of Rashid Khalidi, who just happened to be a former PLO operative, harsh critic of Israel, and advocate of Palestinian rights, and who Obama claims he does not know, even though the Obamas just happened to have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona, and just happened to have used them as occasional baby-sitters. Obama reportedly praised Khalidi at the decidedly anti-Semitic event, which William Ayers just happened to also attend, and the event Obama pretends he never attended was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network, to which Obama just happened to have funneled cash while serving on the board of the Woods Fund with William Ayers, and one speaker at the dinner remarked that if Palestinians cannot secure a return of their land, Israel “will never see a day of peace,” and entertainment at the dinner included a Muslim children’s dance whose performances just happened to include simulated beheadings with fake swords, and stomping on American, Israeli, and British flags, and Obama allegedly told the audience that “Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine” and there has been “genocide against the Palestinian people by (the) Israelis,” and the Los Angeles Times has a videotape of the event but just happens to refuse to make it public.
In the 2004 Illinois Democrat primary race for the U.S. Senate, front-runner Blair Hull just happened to be forced out of the race after David Axelrod just happened to manage to get Hull’s sealed divorce records unsealed, which just happened to enable Obama to win the primary, so he could face popular Republican Jack Ryan, whose sealed child custody records from his divorce just happened to become unsealed, forcing Ryan to withdraw from the race, which just happened to enable the unqualified Obama to waltz into the U.S. Senate, where, after a mere 143 days of work, he just happened to decide he was qualified to run for President of the United States.
Obama just happened to save $300,000 on the purchase of a $1.65 million Chicago mansion for which he deposited only $1,000 in earnest money, while the seller’s adjacent empty lot which was appraised at no more than $500,000 just happened to be sold at the inflated price of $625,000 to Rita Rezko, who just happened to earn only $37,000 per year working for Cook County government, and who just happened to be married to Tony Rezko, who just happened to be Obama’s main money man for his political campaigns, and who only days before the Obama mansion purchase just happened to obtain a $3.5 million loan from wealthy Iraqi Nadhmi Auchi, who just happened to have been kicked out of Iraq, and who just happened to have been convicted of corruption charges in France, and who just happened to ask Rezko to ask then-U.S. Senator Obama to help him obtain a visa to travel to the United States.
Rita Rezko just happened to borrow the money for the $625,000 empty lot from the Mutual Bank of Harvey, which just happened to be run by Tony Rezko’s pal Amrish Mahajan, whose wife Anita just happened to have been charged with fraudulently receiving $2 million in Illinois taxpayer dollars for drug tests never performed by her company, K. K. Bio-Science, which just happened to have a no-bid contract with the state, and whose computers just happened to disappear right before investigators arrived to take them away for evidence.
Obama just happened to obtain a $1.32 million mortgage for his mansion even though the payments of $8,000 per month (plus at least $1,500 per month in property taxes) exceeded 50 percent of his $162,100 U.S Senate salary income, and even though Michelle Obama was claiming that she and her husband were still paying off substantial student loans and were struggling to pay for piano lessons for their daughters, one of whom just happens to look remarkably like one of the daughters of Malcolm X.
Obama just happened to obtain his mansion mortgage from Northern Trust Bank, whose Board of Directors just happened to include Susan Crown, who just happened to be part of the wealthy Crown family, which just happened to donate to Obama’s campaigns, and which just happened to have ownership in defense contractor General Dynamics Corporation, and the Crown family just happened to sit on the board of energy company Exelon, formerly known as Commonwealth Edison, which just happened to have had Thomas Ayers as its CEO, and the Crown family also owned the Maytag appliance company, which just happened to move its operations to Mexico, after its employees just happened to donate to Obama’s campaign, after he just happened to pledge that he would keep their jobs in Galesburg, Illinois.
In June 2005, just months after Obama became a U.S. Senator, Michelle Obama just happened to be named a “non-executive director” of the board of TreeHouse Foods, a supplier of Wal-Mart, for a salary of $51,200 in 2005 and $101,083 in 2006, and she just happened to be given 7,500 TreeHouse stock options, worth approximately $72,375, even though she just happened to know nothing about the private sector or running a business.
In 2006 Obama pushed for a $1 million earmark for the University of Chicago, and his wife Michelle just happened to be promoted to Vice-President of Community and External Affairs for the hospitals with a salary increase from $121,900 to $316,962, and she just happened to receive public relations help from Obama’s political strategist David Axelrod, whose mother just happened to write for a communist newspaper.
In 2006 Sarah P. Herlihy, an associate of the Chicago law firm of Kirkland and Ellis, whose employees later contributed $87,722 to Obama’s presidential campaign, and whose partner Bruce I. Ettleson just happened to be a member of Obama’s campaign finance committee, just happened to write a paper calling for the elimination of the “natural born citizen” requirement in the U.S. Constitution.
Obama just happened to visit Kenya in 2006 to support his cousin, Raila Odinga, a Muslim socialist candidate for president, who just happened to have ties to both al-Qaeda and Libya’s Muammar Qaddafi, and who just happened to have been educated in communist East Germany, and who just happened to name his son Fidel, and who just happened to plan on establishing Shari’ah Muslim law in Kenya, and whose activities prompted the Kenyan government to lodge an official protest of Obama’s passport abuse and misconduct, and Obama’s actions just happened to have been denounced by the U.S. State Department as being in direct opposition to U.S. National Security, and after Odinga, for whom Obama just happened to have raised $950,000, lost the election, his Muslim followers just happened to burn Christian women and children alive in a church where they had sought refuge.
In 2006 Obama endorsed Alexi Giannoulias in his race for Illinois State Treasurer and stated that he is “…one of the most outstanding young men I could ever hope to meet”—even though Giannoulias just happened to be only 29 years old and even though his family’s Broadway Bank just happened to finance Chicago crime figures like Michael “Jaws” Giorango, a Chicago thug with convictions for bookmaking and promoting prostitution, and even though virtually all of Chicago’s Democrat politicians were keeping their distance from Giannoulias, whose reputation was so questionable he even failed to get the endorsement of the Chicago Democrat Party—which just happens to almost never be concerned about questionable reputations.
Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, once worked for the Ford Foundation’s Asia program, which just happened to be run by Peter Geithner, who just happened to be the father of Timothy Geithner, who just happened to neglect to pay Social Security taxes on much of his income, which just happened to somehow qualify him to be Obama’s Treasury Secretary.
During the 2008 campaign Obama’s passport records just happened to have been illegally searched by an employee of a firm headed by John O. Brennan, and Lt. Quarles Harris, Jr., who was cooperating with federal investigators in connection with the incident, just happened to be found with a bullet in his head, and the murder just happened never to be solved, and Obama later just happened to make Brennan his terrorism and intelligence advisor.
On election night in 2008 in Chicago’s Grant Park, Obama just happened to wear a black suit and a red tie, and his older daughter just happened to wear a red dress, and his younger daughter just happened to wear a stark black dress, and his wife Michelle just happened to wear an arguably unattractive black dress that appeared to have a giant red X design, which just happened to prompt some to wonder if their clothing just happened to denote black power, communism, and Malcolm X, and at the very least prompted others to wonder why anyone would have his daughter wear a jet-black dress for a celebratory occasion—or where one could even just happen to find a store that sells black dresses for little girls.
From election night forward there are hundreds of other “just happeneds,” not the least of which is the long-form birth certificate released by Obama in April 2011 which just happened to consist of multiple image layers, including various objects which can be separated and rotated with computer software—which just happens to be impossible if a birth certificate is merely scanned and not computer-constructed by a forger. Likewise, he has a forged Selective Service Card and was never investigated in his part played out in the Rezko case nor investigated for the numerous SSNs used by Obama (16), nor his part which is demonstrated in both Tax Evasion through property manipulation! Now lets compound this with obstruction of justice, ie judges burrying/refusing to hear and give rulings on Obama lack of eligibility and fraud! Need I remind you that vetting was required of John McCain yet not one single Democrat or Republican has vetted this imposter with questionable fraud and anti-american connections! Thus, this coupled with numerous questionable deaths surrounding people exposing him and his actions, too many which are clearly impeachable, leads us to question all representatives in both the congress and the senate. As you have been informed WE THE PEOPLE are upset that not one single REPRESENTATIVE has acted on all the corruption, illegal actions, and questionable Anti-American background of this FRAUD! Thus, we are left with building a coalition to unseat every single REPRESENTATIVE in Office, due to REFUSAL TO UPHOLD YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL OATH BY ALLOWING THIS FRAUD TO OVERTHROW OUR GOVERNMENT!
Thus, let it be said that you those of supposed ethics and those involved with enforcing the law are refusing to uphold your oath of office by ensuring the prosecution of such fraud and likewise this lack of action clearly implies the implicity of these actions by each and everyone of you within the judiciary committee and the Ethics committee! You have now been informed that WE THE PEOPLE have clearly seen your refusal to represent us the American People! If there is not action to have this Fraud brought before a committee for fraud and ethics and arrested for his outright criminal activities by March 15, 2013 we will take action to unseat every single REPRESENTATIVE sitting on both the Judiciary committee and Ethics committee! Over 70 percent of the American People know he is a fraud, yet it is apparent that ALL OF YOU are complicit in this FRAUD being played out on Americans! Current demonstration of this is that briefs prior and past have been shown to be buried by the clerks of the courts within the Supreme Court, briefs not docketed, supplemental briefs not forwarded. Orly Taitz was denied proof and later confirmed that a brief was denied by a Supreme Court Justice, who in fact never viewed it at all!! Least I remind you this is a violation of the 4th amendment!!! Likewise, this tactic was again utilized on February 15-19, 2013.
WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND TO BE HEARD BY ALL!!! News media, Full Press to ensure that All Americans are aware of the truth during such a hearing as to ensure the unity of America with his removal from government! Likewise, Sotomayer and Kagan cannot sit on this hearing/case as 28 USC 455 makes it clear that due to them being affected by the outcome of the case shows a direct conflict of interest. There is no greater conflict than your removal of office due to have been put into an office by someone who lacks the authority to have put you in those positions of authority!
WE SIMPLY REQUEST TRANSPARENCY AND THAT SOMEONE WHO IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO HOLD THIS POSITION BE REMOVED, AS IT IS REQUIRED BY LAW! Least we also remind you that this DEFACTO president has also done numerous things that are clearly impeachable; much less he has done things that are extremely harmful to our nation! For someone who has done so much harm to America is it not appropriate to require that his identity and eligibility be proven? NO ONE has ever vetted this FRAUD! If you dispute me, PROVE IT!!!
1. Have you seen his TRUE BIRTH CERTIFICATE? ie even his own lawyer, which is on tape verifies that the Birth Certificate that Obama and the Whitehouse swore was his true birth certificate was proven a FORGERY!!
2. Have you confirmed his Selective Service Registration? Which again was proven an outright FRAUD/FORGERY.
3. Have you confirmed an actual SSN for Obama, he has been shown under 16 different ones!! Which indicates criminal activity!
4. Least I also remind you of the Rezko Case and that information of Obama was buried! Obama had evaded taxes on that one property alone, and likewise it is debatable about multiple properties owned by Obama across the nation!
5. There are videos showing both Obama and Michelle both implying even that Obama is not of the United States!
6. There is Obama’s own pamphlet saying he was not of the United States!
7. There is the Fact that he received foreign aid to attend college!
All of these incidents give clear question as to his eligibility!! SO TAKE ACTION!!!
DON’T TREAD ON ME
P.S. You can’t expect American Citizens to back you, when you refuse to represent the American citizens!
Most Blacks and Whites alike don’t care about the color of a person’s skin, but rather the honesty, character, and transparency of its leaders!!
An American Citizen and Patriot of the Republic!
Senate – judiciary emails:
leahy@mail.senate.gov, schumer@mail.senate.gov, durbin@mail.senate.gov, whitehouse@mail.senate.gov, klobuchar@mail.senate.gov, franken@mail.senate.gov, coons@mail.senate.gov, blumenthal@mail.senate.gov, hirono@mail.senate.gov, grassley@mail.senate.gov, hatch@mail.senate.gov, sessions@mail.senate.gov, graham@mail.senate.gov, cornyn@mail.senate.gov, lee@mail.senate.gov, cruz@mail.senate.gov, flake@mail.senate.gov
Senate ethic committee emails:
boxer@mail.senate.gov, Isakson@mail.senate.gov, pryor@mail.senate.gov, Roberts@mail.senate.gov, brown@mail.senate.gov, risch@mail.senate.gov
House judiciary committee emails:
goodlatte@mail.house.gov, coble@mail.house.gov, smith@mail.house.gov, chabot@mail.house.gov, bachus@mail.house.gov, issa@mail.house.gov, forbes@mail.house.gov, king@mail.house.gov, franks@mail.house.gov, gohmert@mail.house.gov, Jordan@mail.house.gov, poe@mail.house.gov, chaffetz@mail.house.gov, marino@mail.house.gov, gowdy@mail.house.gov, amodei@mail.house.gov, labrador@mail.house.gov, farenthold@mail.house.gov, holding@mail.house.gov, collins@mail.house.gov, desantis@mail.house.gov, rothfus@mail.house.gov, conyers@mail.house.gov, nadler@mail.house.gov, scott@mail.house.gov, watt@mail.house.gov, lofgren@mail.house.gov, cohen@mail.house.gov, johnson@mail.house.gov, pierluisi@amil.house.gov, chu@mail.house.gov, deutch@mail.house.gov, gutierrez@mail.house.gov, bass@mail.house.gov, richmond@mail.house.gov, delbene@mail.house.gov, garcia@mail.house.gov, jeffries@mail.house.gov,
House ethics committee emails:
conaway@mail.house.gov, dent@mail.house.gov, meehan@mail.house.gov, gowdy@mail.house.gov, brooks@mail.house.gov, sanchez@mail.house.gov, pierluisi@mail.house.gov, capuano@mail.house.gov, clark@mail.house.gove, deutch@mail.house.gov
The above is a great example of why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review all call birthers crazy.
First of all, Obama’s birth certificate was NOT forged. Second, if he were impeached for any reason, any reason at all, Vice President Joe Biden would become president. Obama really was born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii (including the former Republican governor, a friend of Sarah Palin’s) and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 all show, and he really is a Natural Born US Citizen due to Natural Born Citizen having come from the common law and that it refers to the place of birth, not to the citizenship of one (or even two) parents. And he really was re-elected on November 6, 2012, and he really was sworn in twice for his second term by the chief justice of the USA.
Ellen, how’s your low paying shill job working out for you? Bet you’re hoping minimum wage gets raised to $9 an hour.
You’ve presented zero evidence that the birth certificate is not a forgery to contradict the findings of a criminal investigation. The forensic evidence says the BC is a forgery. OTOH you say it isn’t. Thanks for clearing up the discrepancy.
Furthermore, forensic evidence trumps opinions every time. IOW, one piece of forensic proof is more compelling than 100 opinions.
Surely we have explained to you enough times that newspaper clippings have zero evidentiary value. Barry’s grandmother could have notified the health department of a newborn child, and it would be accepted. The listings in the paper mean absolutely nothing in terms of place of birth.
In addition, the BC – if accepted at face value – prove Obama was a dual citizen at birth, not a natural born citizen.
It has been explained to you multiple times that the term Natural Born CITIZEN comes from a book by a French author, not from British common law. Benjamin Franklin owned three copies of the book, “Law of Nations.” George Washington and Jefferson also owned copies.
Re: “Surely we have explained to you enough times that newspaper clippings have zero evidentiary value. ”
In this case they do. The birth notices were sent to the Hawaii newspapers’ section called “Health Bureau Statistics” section, which as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, was done ONLY by birth notices from the DOH, and not advertisements or notices posted by parents. Only the DOH sent the notices and it only did so for births in Hawaii.
Re: ” Barry’s grandmother could have notified the health department of a newborn child, and it would be accepted.”
Answer: No it wouldn’t have been accepted. We know because of the research done by the PUMA Lori Starfeld, and because of what the DOH has said, that it did not allow a birth certificate to be issued with a Hawaii place of birth on it unless there was PROOF that the child was born in that place. If a child was born outside of a hospital, the DOH demanded witness statements. So your claim is false. Moreover, Obama’s long form birth certificate, on which the officials have confirmed the facts are EXACTLY the same as on the document in the files, shows that he was born inside a hospital, in Kapiolani Hospital, which BTW did exist at the time.
Re claims that Obama’s birth certificate is forged:
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
Equally importantly: birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
Re: “the term Natural Born CITIZEN comes from a book by a French author, not from British common law. Benjamin Franklin owned three copies of the book, “Law of Nations.” George Washington and Jefferson also owned copies.”
Answer: Yes they did read Vattel. HOWEVER, they read a lot of other things too. In particular, they read BLACKSTONE, who was even more popular than Vattel, and Blackstone said that the meaning of Natural Born came from the common law and referred to the place of birth, not to the citizenship of the parents. And the word “Natural Born Citizen” did not appear in any English-language translation of Vattel until TEN YEARS after the Constitution was written, while Natural Born had been in the common law for about three hundred years before the Constitution was written. And Vattel is not even mentioned once in the Federalist Papers, while the common law is mentioned about twenty times. And, most importantly, there are NO examples of any of the writers of the Constitution ever using the term Natural Born to refer to parents, while there are several examples of them using it just the way that it was used in the common law, to refer to the place of birth. And there are several other historic examples of the writers of the time using the term Natural Born Citizen to refer to the place of birth, and none in which they refer to it as based on the citizenship of parents.
For example:
“Prior to the adoption of the constitution, the people inhabiting the different states might be divided into two classes: natural born citizens, or those born within the state, and aliens, or such as were born out of it. The first, by their birth-right, became entitled to all the privileges of citizens; the second, were entitled to none, but such as were held out and given by the laws of the respective states prior to their emigration. …St. George Tucker, BLACKSTONE’S COMMENTARIES: WITH NOTES OF REFERENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. (1803)
As you can see, that refers only to the place of birth. Natural Born Citizens were simply “those born within the state.” And this, written by a man who was a friend of both George Washington and Ben Franklin:
“Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity.”—William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed. (1829)
And, in addition to the historical research which shows that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen come from the common law and refers to the place of birth, the US Supreme Court has ruled that too, in the Wong Kim Ark case, which BTW, was AFTER Minor v. Happersett.
Here are the words of the Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court ruling:
“It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.
III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”
And so far TEN state and federal appeals courts have all ruled that the Wong Kim Ark case was the key ruling and that the Wong Kim Ark case said that every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born Citizen (meaning that Jindal and Rubio are also Natural Born Citizens). And not one court has ruled that Minor v. Happersett applies or that two citizen parents are required.
As I’ve pointed out above the critical lynch pin is the forged BC.
However let me also address this over reliance upon Wong Kim Ark. If you are to accept that ruling, you also accept the Dred Scott decision. My point here is that courts have made sloppy decisions before.. This decision is Wong case is a prime example.
The court has tried to say English SUBJECTS and US CITIZENS are the same. We know the court’s dicision is wrong because it would include dual citizens as natural born citizens, when it is plainly obvious that a dual citizen has divided loyalties to his or her parents’s citizenship at birth. John Jay’s letter to Washington and other founders warning about divided loyalties as his reason for inclusion of the term “Natural” to be included in the Constitution in order to qualify for the presidency is powerful evidence for supporting the “Law of Nations” as the defining source.:
“Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen”
After that letter the words “Natural born” were included in the Constitution.
Obama was at least a half foreign citizen at birth. To allow half born foreign citizens to be counted as full born citizens would not be a “strong check to the admission of Foreigners” but a weak one.
As stated before. Washington Franklin and Jefferson all owned copies of the French “Law of Nations.” Why would they? Because they were constructing a nation and needed it for reference. In contrast, English common law does not refer to natural born citizens, but only to subjects. Citizens have rights that subjects can only wish for. They are NOT the same terms by any stretch of the imagination.
It is one thing to be ‘subject’ to the decisions of a king. It is another altogether to be a citizen with rights in the US.
Yes, you are a low paid shill. Every shill denies their shillness. It comes with the territory.
Oh, and by the way, I’m not paid. But if I were paid, or you were paid, or we were both paid, it would not change the facts or the law.
Ellen the facts – that is to say the forensic facts – are indisputable. The BC is a forgery.
So if you were relying on facts, you would be on our side, and that is a fact. Until you can refute the forensic evidence with additional forensic evidence, there is really nothing more you can offer that exculpates the fraud in the WH.
All the rest is blather..
Re: “Ellen the facts – that is to say the forensic facts – are indisputable. The BC is a forgery.”
No, not only are they not “indisputable.” They are laughable. They include things like saying that PDF would not show layers, when it is based on layers and works with layers. Or that a PDF document put into Illustrator does not show layers, when it does. Or that there was “kerning,” when it is the normal skipping of a manual typewriter. Or that the scanned image of the long form birth certificate would not show the word “TXE”—when it is clear that a scanned image of a faintly typed document put into PDF can pick up the word THE and show it as TXE.
Obama’s birth certificate is not fake. Only birther “experts” have called it fake, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
All the rest is blather.
Ellen you are flat out wrong about the newspaper clippings. The grandmother WAS the witness. Try getting that through your thick head! It was done all the time. The newspaper clippings mean nothing, zero, nada, zilch. They are not evidence, let alone best evidence.
In fact, the Arpaio team discovered that Hawaii would issue Hawaiian birth certificates to families that had foreign birth certificates at the time of Obama’s birth!!
The COLB is evidence of nothing, especially when the BC itself has been forged in so many different ways. As you might recall, it was also found to be not valid at the time it was issued which is why Obama provided the second forged document. It is also not valid when the state of HI will issue a COLB even though the person was born in another country.
The criticisms that claim the pdf file was not a fraud have all been refuted by the Sheriff’s investigators.
Furthermore those criticisms to not even begin to address the different fonts, etc. The damn thing is a fraud through and through from many different angles.
Keep in mind that a Arpiao’s office is not a mere opinion journal such as what you are relying on. It is a law enforcement agency. The Obama admin would love nothing more than to expose Arpiao. Yet they have stayed a 1,000 miles away from even making the attempt.
The last thing Obama and his like minded criminal friends want to do is to argue the forensics of the birth certificate. To do so would result in a hanging in the end.
I’ve answered your tiresome attempts regarding the common law of subjects versus citizenship already.
BTW, your shill cut and pastes don’t impress me one bit.
Re: “Obama was at least a half foreign citizen at birth. To allow half born foreign citizens to be counted as full born citizens would not be a “strong check to the admission of Foreigners” but a weak one.”
The meaning of Natural Born in the common law does not exclude dual citizens. It includes them.
Re the US Supreme Court being wrong in the Wong Kim Ark ruling.
That is what you say, but the historical research shows that the meaning of Natural Born, as used by the writers at the time, is the same as the meaning in the common law, and that it does not refer to parents or to dual citizens.
“Prior to the adoption of the constitution, the people inhabiting the different states might be divided into two classes: natural born citizens, or those born within the state, and aliens, or such as were born out of it. The first, by their birth-right, became entitled to all the privileges of citizens; the second, were entitled to none, but such as were held out and given by the laws of the respective states prior to their emigration. …St. George Tucker, BLACKSTONE’S COMMENTARIES: WITH NOTES OF REFERENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. (1803)
“Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity.”—William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed. (1829)
So BOTH the US Supreme Court and the historical research show that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth, and there is no mention of it excluding dual citizens in any way—even those who are dual citizens when they are president, much less those who were dual citizens once but are not dual. citizens now.
Purpura v. Obama (New Jersey 2012) ruling: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.”
Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling: “However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that ‘[e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States. ‘Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion. [The judge cites Hollander and Ankeny]
Allen v. Obama (Arizona 2012) ruling: “Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, Arizona v. Jay J. Garfield Bldg. Co. , 39 Ariz. 45, 54, 3 P.2d 983, 986(1931), and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. … Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise”
(Notice the reference to dual citizenship not affecting in the Purpura v. Obama ruling. )
Yes, I would agree that today’s courts have committed contortions and somersaults that would make Olympic gymnasts jealous.
We have seen judges refuse to grant default judgments. We have seen judges deny standing because the filing was done before the election only to have the same filing denied by a different judge because it was after the election.
I am not arguing that justice will prevail. I’m stating the facts as they are as a witness to a crime.
All we have is a false BC in favor of Obama was born here. Meanwhile, there is additional evidence that he wasn’t born in the US. When the governor of HI sought to locate the birth certificate, it was NOWHERE to be found.
The customs records for the week of his birth are MISSING.
One of the people who looked at Obama’s passport records was shot in the head three weeks later.
But then we have you copying and pasting this bull for a low wage. Apparently free abortion care is that important to you.
I don’t know how you sleep at night.
Re: “The grandmother WAS the witness. ”
Answer. Nuts she was. Only birther sites said that she said any such thing. She didn’t. in fact, she said repeatedly that Obama was born in Hawaii, not Kenya. (And that is what the Kenyan GOVERNMENT said too, that Obama was for sure NOT born in Kenya.) Here is what Obama’s Kenyan grandmother actually said; birthers simply cut off the tape just before she was asked where Obama was born:
“MCRAE: OK. Uh, when I come in December I would like to go by the, the place, the hospital where he is born. Uh, could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?
(Long pause. Puzzled sound from Translator Ogombe in background: “naah?”)
BROTHER TOM: Uh, uh, I, I will need help. I think, uh I think, I kind of, you know we’ll be coming December (unintelligible) and Vitalis, and I talking to him, so I tell him–
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (in background, simultaneously): –no, no– what?!?
BROTHER TOM: –that you are a capitalist, that you were a little, that you were a little, a little, a little American bus–
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (responding to background voices, sounding distressed): No–yes–
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (to McRae): No! Obama was not born in Mombasa! He was born in America!
MCRAE: Wh-whereabouts, whereabouts was he born? I, I thought he was born in Kenya.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: No he was born in America, not in Mombasa.
MCRAE: OK. Do you know whereabouts he was born?
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: (Pause.) Huh?
MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in
VOICE OF MRS. OBAMA OR ANOTHER WOMAN (background): Hawaii.
BROTHER TOM (background): Hawaii, yeah?
VOICE OF MRS. OBAMA OR ANOTHER WOMAN (background): Yeah.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (background): Yes.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (to McRae): Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii.
MCRAE: OK.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: Yeah, in 1960 this was Hawaii, where his father, his father was also marrying there. This was Hawaii.
MCRAE: OK.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: Yeah.
MCRAE: Was, was, was Mrs. Obama, was sh–was she present? Was, was Mrs. Obama, see I thought you said she was present. Was she, was, was she, was she able to see him being, being born in, in Hawaii?
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: (pause, silence) Hoh? (pause) Uh, yeah would you please pronounce?
MCRAE: OK I’m sorry. I, I thought she said she was present when he was born. I was—
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (sounding exasperated): No, no! The, the woman was not present. She was uh not, a what–you see, she was here in Kenya, and Obama was born in America. That is, that’s obvious.
MCRAE: OK.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: Because, because the grandmother was married here in Kenya, and Obama was born in America, oh yeah, so his son, the little Obama, was marrying, was marrying, in America, in United States.
MCRAE: Oh, OK, fine. I mean, I–I just, I misunderstood what she was saying. I thought you said she was present when he was born.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: No, not present there. The present with me here was tonight. Not present so she can leave. No she was here in Kenya while he, uh, her son, the little Obama, was marrying in America. And, uh, he be present if it–
WOMAN’S VOICE (background): It was in Hawaii.
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: –was in America there, why are they for, they go, they go, they go to some place, then the present isn’t here sir, he was born there in America.
And, in addition to the Kenyan grandmother NOT saying that he was born in Kenya, and in fact saying that he was born in Hawaii, and the Kenyan government saying that he was not born in Kenya, and only 21 people coming to the USA from Kenya in 1961 (and only one on an airplane, and that one was not a US citizen), and the Hawaii government saying that Obama was born in Hawaii, it remains NUTTY to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (they weren’t. Obama’s grandfather was only a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank in 1961) or crazy enough to send their pregnant daughter at enormous expense and high risk of stillbirth to Kenya (or in fact to any foreign country)——when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Thanks for more low paid shill copying and pasting. Sure do appreciate it. I’m just trying to help your economy since they pay you so little.
PS. I never mentioned the Kenyan grandmother, by the way. Did they take the shrine of Obama’s birthplace down, too?
I was referring to Obama’s maternal grandmother. She was the so-called witness for the HI health department. She made sure Barry went to a school whose headmaster was a communist, and they made sure communist, pornographer, Frank Marshall Davis mentored Barry. What a lovely family!
I also don’t care what Obama’s communist maternal grandmother claimed about his birth at ANY time. She was certainly smart enough as a bank executive to understand that claiming Obama was born in HI would be helpful to him – not for president but for man near anything.
Re: “In fact, the Arpaio team discovered that Hawaii would issue Hawaiian birth certificates to families that had foreign birth certificates at the time of Obama’s birth!!”
Answer: That is what they said, but they never showed a single example of it. Not one. And the DOH of Hawaii denies what they claimed and so did the late PUMA Lori Starfeld. And Sheriff Joe’s statements are not believed by the CONSERVATIVE secretary of state of Arizona, Sheriff Joe’s own state, who asked Hawaii to confirm the facts on Obama’s birth certificate, and when it did, accepted the confirmation as evidence, or by the National Review:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors
Moreover, notice that not only does Obama have a Hawaiian birth certificate, but he has one that says that he was born in KAPIOLANI Hospital, and one that shows the signature of a doctor at that hospital on it, and the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have confirmed that the fact Kapiolani and the signature of the doctor appear on the document in their files as well as in the document that the White House published.
Re: “I was referring to Obama’s maternal grandmother…”
She never said that Obama was born in Kenya.
Re: “She was certainly smart enough as a bank executive to understand that claiming Obama was born in HI would be helpful to him – not for president but for man near anything.”
At the time that Obama was born she was only a low-level employee in a bank, and she would be wrong if she thought that (1) IF Obama was born in a foreign country, he would not have all the benefits of a full US citizen if he were naturalized, because a naturalized citizen is just the same as a Natural Born Citizen except for the ability to be president; (2) that she could get away with lying about Obama’s place of birth, since the DOH in Hawaii demanded proof of the place of birth whenever a child was claimed to have been born in Hawaii and outside of a hospital.
And you remain nutty to believe that they had enough money (she was only a low-level employee in a bank, and the grandfather was only a furniture salesman) and crazy enough to send their daughter to a foreign country while she was pregnant at huge expense and high risk of stillbirth (and of Yellow Fever in Kenya)—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
And, his maternal grandmother was not a “witness” to his birth in Hawaii. The witness was the doctor whose signature is on the long-form birth certificate, and which the officials in Hawaii have confirmed exists both in the image that the White House published and on the BC in the files.
Good gawd you’re dense.
The HI health department accepted a witness’s claim of a birth from a relative such as a grandmother (Dunham.) That’s all it took for HI health department to record a birth from which they could issue COLB’s. Their law allowed this overly loose method of recording births. From that record created by Barry’s grandmother, the newspapers published the birth notices.
Referring to a computer file* declared as a forgery based on a myriad of forensic evidence by a sheriff’s office as anything meaningful is just nuts at this point.
As you’ve already been informed, oral or written statements by the health department are meaningless since not even the governor himself could come up with the BC.
*Do you understand, it’s not a real document – it is only a file on the internet? Probably not – you don’t seem to understand much of anything.
Re: “The HI health department accepted a witness’s claim of a birth from a relative such as a grandmother (Dunham.)”
Answer. When there was a claim of a birth in Hawaii outside of a hospital, they accepted witness statements, but they attempted to get confirmation from a doctor or a midwife (even the statement by the doctor that she or he had checked on the mother within a week of the birth). If there had been such a witness statement and that confirmation, the statement and confirmation would be IN THE FILE. So, the published long-form birth certificate that Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital would have been a lie, and a lie that could be seen from the witness and confirmation statement in the file.
BUT the officials in Hawaii of both parties have confirmed the FACT that Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital. They have stated twice that ALL the facts on Obama’s published birth certificate are EXACTLY the same as the facts in the file, and that includes Kapiolani Hospital and the name and signature of the doctor. So, unless they are lying, Obama was indeed born in Kapiolani Hospital.
RE: “Referring to a computer file* declared as a forgery based on a myriad of forensic evidence by a sheriff’s office as anything meaningful is just nuts at this point. ”
No, it is the birther “experts” who are biased and/or nuts (one has claimed to have found “the original Altar of Abraham”):
And birther sites do not quote the analysts who say that there is nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate. For example:
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said: “The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it. … I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: “All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Obama has shown his birth certificate twice, and the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed the facts on it.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
Moreover, for Obama not to be a Natural Born Citizen, Obama would have had to have been born in some country other than in the USA, and that—considering how far Hawaii is from the nearest foreign country and the fact that pregnant women seldom traveled long distances late in pregnancy in 1961 AND that the officials in Hawaii and the birth certificate and the birth notices in Hawaii say that he was born in Hawaii—is not very likely at all.
Re: “As you’ve already been informed, oral or written statements by the health department are meaningless since not even the governor himself could come up with the BC.”
Answer: That is what birther sites said that Abernathy said, but he DID NOT SAY IT. And, in addition to him not having said it, it is not true, since the officials of BOTH parties have repeatedly said that Obama’s BC exists in the file, where it is supposed to be.
Re: “*Do you understand, it’s not a real document – it is only a file on the internet? ”
Answer: The published image on the internet is indeed only an internet file, and that is what it is supposed to be—how else to show it???
BUT, (1) The officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they sent the official short form BC to Obama and the long form BC; (2) and there is a statement from a member of the press that she had seen the physical copy of the long-form BC and felt the seal; and (3) The officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that the facts on Obama’s long-form BC—-including the name of the hospital and the doctor—-are EXACTLY the same as the facts on the document in the files.
Keep copying and pasting your lies, Ellen. That should persuade a lot of people.
These facts are not lies:
(1) The officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they sent the official short form BC to Obama and the long form BC; (2) and there is a statement from a member of the press that she had seen the physical copy of the long-form BC and felt the seal; and (3) The officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that the facts on Obama’s long-form BC—-including the name of the hospital and the doctor—-are EXACTLY the same as the facts on the document in the files.
Here are some links that confirm those three facts:
Here is one of the more recent confirmations:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Obama-Verification_Page_1_Image_0001.jpg
Here is the first confirmation, back when a Republican governor was in office:
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
Here is confirmation that Hawaii sent the long-form BC to Obama:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf
Here is confirmation that Hawaii cannot publish Obama’s BC itself or give it out to the Sheriff (unless he has a court order):
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm
Here is the confirmation sent to the Secretary of State of Arizona (and accepted as valid confirmation by him) NOTICE that it says that the facts MATCH those in the files, that they are exactly the same:
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verific…
As you can see, that not only answers all 12 questions that were asked by Bennett, but it says “additionally” that it checked the information in the copy attached and that it matches the document in the files.
Here is a statement from the member of the press, Savannah Guthrie, that she had felt the seal on Obama’s long form BC:
https://twitter.com/SavannahGuthrie/status/63373897835356161
And here is the confirmation by the governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican, that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/20…
Here is the Index Data file:
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html
Here is the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm
I did, of course, have to cut and paste the links. How else can links be shown?
The links show that I did not lie, and that: (1) The officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they sent the official short form BC to Obama and the long form BC; (2) and there is a statement from a member of the press that she had seen the physical copy of the long-form BC and felt the seal; and (3) The officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that the facts on Obama’s long-form BC—-including the name of the hospital and the doctor—-are EXACTLY the same as the facts on the document in the files.
Moreover, it remains nutty to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough or dumb enough to send their pregnant daughter to Kenya or to any other country at huge expense and high risk of stillbirth (and Yellow Fever in Kenya), when there were perfectly good hospitals in Hawaii.
Abortion really means a lot to you, doesn’t it. It’s what makes libs crazy and irrational. Defense of it, requires any and all means. Lying is okay, so long as abortion is protected.
Now let me explain what Best Evidence is to you. Best Evidence is hard evidence. It’s evidence that doesn’t get mixed up by faulty memories. Best evidence trumps opinions on a topic.
When the best evidence contradicts the lesser evidence, it calls into question the validity and veracity of the lesser evidence.
The investigation of the computer generated file that pretends to be a BC found it to be wanting in many different ways. Hence it’s a fake. It doesn’t matter if Glenn Beck or George Washington himself were to accept it. It’s still a fake.
Since the BC is a fake, it calls into serious question those who have lied to protect it. Why? Because their lies are contradicted by the hard evidence – the best evidence.
There is no birth certificate that validates Obama because he doesn’t get a second bite at the apple. He is stuck defending the fake one. And you are stuck defending it, too, because abortion is your sacrament.
The links that I have shown are official statements, and they confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii. The claim that Obama’s BC was forged comes from birther “experts”—and they have not even shown that they are experts, much less fair and impartial. That is why they are not believed by such conservative leaders as Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck or the National Review. And birther sites simply have not shown you the experts who say that it is not forged.
There is evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii, the birth certificate itself, the index data, the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 and the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley. And there is NO evidence at all that Obama’s mother traveled outside of Hawaii in 1961, and it is nutty to believe so since his relatives were certainly not rich enough or stupid enough to spend LOTS of money on such a trip in which their pregnant daughter traveled thousands of miles (or tens of thousands to Kenya) at high risk of stillbirth (and Yellow Fever in Kenya)—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
And, btw, the Kenyan government says that it investigated, and that Obama certainly was not born there.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …
Re: “abortion is your sacrament.’
I have not said a word about abortion. Not a word. So you are making up facts to claim that I favor it, and I don’t. Moreover, all that you are doing is calling names, which is not a good indication that you have the facts on your side.
Barry’s American grandmother’s income has Nothing to do with her intelligence or knowledge about citizenship. She was obviously bright enough to move thru the ranks at the bank, so she was no dummy at the age of 40 + or -.
I completely agree. But her and her husband’s income was important where a trip to Kenya for their pregnant daughter was concerned. IF they did not have enough income to send her to Kenya, they could not have sent her to Kenya (and they didn’t). And, as you said, she was bright, bright enough to realize that a long and difficult trip to Kenya had a high risk of stillbirths. So, why would she and her husband send Obama’s mother to Kenya (which has said, btw, that Obama was NOT born there), when there were perfectly good hospitals in Hawaii?
(And, according to your theory, not only was she smart enough to realize that sending her daughter to Kenya was risky and a waste of money, but she did so despite that realization, and then she LIED about it, and got away with the lie—meaning that she claimed that Obama was born outside of a hospital [although the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that Obama was born inside a hospital, Kapiolani] and that the officials did not ask for any confirmation of her claim, which they normally would have done.) Moreover, if she had lied and gotten away with the claim, then the officials in Hawaii must be lying now when they confirm that Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital.
Ellen you don’t know what the family income was. Stop pretending that you do. They did send Barry to a private school, so they had more money than you want to admit..
You don’t know who paid for the trip. Obama senior had enough money to travel to HI. You don’t know how much money he had access to as a politically connected Kenyan.
Meanwhile, the Customs department travel records for the week Obama was born are MISSING! No other week of those records are missing for that year!
Re: ” They did send Barry to a private school, so they had more money than you want to admit.. ”
They sent Obama to a private school in 1975. That is fourteen years AFTER his birth in 1961. In those 14 years, they started to make more money.
Moreover, spending money on a good education is not the same thing as sending your daughter at high expense and high risk ALONE (since Obama has been proven to have stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) to Kenya. (And, BTW, the Kenyan government says that it investigated, and that Obama was not born in Kenya).
Re: “You don’t know who paid for the trip. Obama senior had enough money to travel to HI. ”
Answer. It was a free flight, and it was money spent on sending him to college, not to travel back and forth much less send his wife ALONE (since WND has proven that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) to Kenya to give birth.
Re: “Meanwhile, the Customs department travel records for the week Obama was born are MISSING! No other week of those records are missing for that year!”
Which proves precisely nothing because there were no direct flights from Kenya to Hawaii. In other words, IF Obama’s mother had traveled to Kenya, she would have had to have gone through the usual checkpoint, New York, and the files from New York are NOT missing.
If you really think that Obama COULD have been born in another country. You could answer the following questions:
Questions for those who continue to believe that Obama was born outside of the USA.
I’ll bet that you know (but you may have forgotten) that the US government requires, and has long required, that a child being carried into the USA requires some kind of official travel document to be admitted. This is usually a US passport for the child. Or, it could be the fact that the child is entered on the mother’s US passport. Or, it could be a US visa for the child on a foreign passport. Without one of those, we would not let the child into the country.
(Sure, a child could be carried across the Mexican border, but Hawaii does not have a border with Mexico, so that can be eliminated as a possiblity.)
So, IF Obama really had been born in Kenya (or in any country other than the USA), he would have had to have one of those documents–wouldn’t he? His family would have had to show the passport, wouldn’t they? To show the passport, they would have had to have applied for the passport or the visa for Obama. And, if Obama really were born in Kenya (or another country), they would have had to have applied for it in the US consulate or embassy in that country, wouldn’t they?
Such applications are FILED by the US government. The documents exist in multiple files, the actual application itself, communication about it with Washington, entries in the passport file, entries in the application file, entries in the places where the child is carried into the USA. The Bush Administration was in charge of the State Department and the INS for eight years before Obama was elected. Don’t you think that they would have checked the claim that he was born outside the USA?
All they had to do was find one of those files and McCain would win the election.
Well, they never did. There is no such file.
So the question is, do you think that the Bush Administration was part of the plot?
Do you think that the files, the documents, the application for the documents, the communications about the documents were all lost or hidden? Remember, they are in multiple files, the file of the passport holder, the files of applications for passports, the files in the US embassy in foreign countries, the files in the State Department and those in the INS (which would have checked in Obama at an entry point if he had actually traveled in 1961)––and yet no document has been found. Why not?
The absence of the travel document, plus the Hawaii birth certificate, plus the confirmation of the facts on the Hawaii birth certificate by THREE Republican (and several Democrat officials in Hawii) plus the notices in the Hawaii “Health Bureau Statistics” sections of the newspapers, which were sent to the papers ONLY by the DOH of Hawaii and only for births in Hawaii. How do you explain all that?
You Do NOT know what their income was. Admit it. You are making ASSumptions.
You don’t know anyone’s income, either in 1961 or 1975. You don’t know what assets they had at either time.
Re: “You don’t know anyone’s income, either in 1961 or 1975. You don’t know what assets they had at either time.’
His grandfather was a furniture salesman. His grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank. They lived in an apartment, not a house.
And even people with LOTS of money (which they did not have) would not have given any of it to their only daughter to travel ALONE (since we know that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout the year) late in pregnancy thousands of miles to Kenya or some other country, at high risk of stillbirth—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Re: “Yes, I would agree that today’s courts have committed contortions and somersaults that would make Olympic gymnasts jealous. ”
Not only the courts, and in this case there are ten of them. There are also the CONSERVATIVE legal scholars. For example, Edwin Meese, Ronald Reagan’s attorney general:
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
And senators Hatch and Graham:
Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:
“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)
Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)
And former senator Fred Thompson:
http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/
Are they all lying? Are they all performing “somersaults that would make Olympic gymnasts jealous. ”
Regarding the claim that the current Governor of Hawaii said that he searched for Obama’s birth certificate and could not find it.
Answer: That, like the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya, was made up completely by birther sites. Abercrombie never said it. And, not only did he not say it, it is not true, since the officials of BOTH parties in fact said that Obama’s birth certificate is in the file in Hawaii, and that the facts on it show that Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital in Hawaii.
You’ve joined the ranks of the communist liars of the past.
I HEARD Abercrombie with my own ears say in a radio interview that he was going to put the BC question to a rest because he was going to investigate it. After he was unable to find it he claimed he was told there was a document (a piece of paper?) that referred to Obama, but Abercrombie did not see the document that was claimed to exist. Abercrombie had no idea what that so-called reference entailed.
Once again we have the HI health department making unsupported assertions at a time when the computer generated BC is known to be a forgery. The health department has provided ZERO real paperwork. They have refused to provide the microfiche to a law enforcement office. Why? Simple. It doesn’t exist.
Re: “I HEARD Abercrombie with my own ears say in a radio interview that he was going to put the BC question to a rest because he was going to investigate it. After he was unable to find it he claimed he was told there was a document (a piece of paper?) that referred to Obama, but Abercrombie did not see the document that was claimed to exist. Abercrombie had no idea what that so-called reference entailed.”
What you heard with your own ears was a statement from Abercrombie that he wanted to find something IN ADDITION to the BC, something to confirm it. Well, he did not find something that he could release (the law does not allow him or anyone to release hospital records). But he never said that he could not find the BC.
He did not say that he could not find the BC. And the short-form BC is based on the information in the files and only on the information in the files. A clerk fills in the computer form from the facts in the files, and that generates the COLB, and it says that Obama was born in Honolulu. And the officials in Hawaii have also confirmed that Obama’s BC exists in their files, many times, and their recent confirmations are that all the FACTS on the file are exactly the same as the facts on the long form BC that Obama has published.
Re: “Once again we have the HI health department making unsupported assertions at a time when the computer generated BC is known to be a forgery.”
It is not a forgery. Only bither “experts” claim that it is, and their statements are that they (1) sent the BCs, short form and long form, to Obama and that ALL the facts on the long form are correct, and that includes the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii—including the former Republican governor, a friend of Sarah Palin’s.
Re: “The health department has provided ZERO real paperwork. ”
Answer. Under Hawaii law they are allowed to send the BC only to a select list of eligible people. They are not allowed to publish it themselves, and they are not even allowed to show the BC to persons identifying themselves as law enforcement officials unless they have a court order (and probably one from either a federal or Hawaii court)—which Sheriff Joe’s posse did not have.
Re: “They have refused to provide the microfiche to a law enforcement office. Why?”
Repeat: “they are not even allowed to show the BC to persons identifying themselves as law enforcement officials unless they have a court order (and probably one from either a federal or Hawaii court)—which Sheriff Joe’s posse did not have.”
It still remains nutty to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough or crazy enough to send their daughter to a foreign country late in pregnancy at huge expense and high risk of stillbirth, when there were perfectly good hospitals in Hawaii. And, then, according to this nutty theory, they decided to cover up this highly unlikely action and GOT AWAY WITH IT.
Do us all a favor and stop lying.
Abercrombie promised to put the entire issue to rest! But he was shown NOTHING. He was only given assurances from the very department that is part of the cover up. They TOLD him they had found a reference to Obama in their files. WTF does that even mean???
Abercrombie was cocksure he would put an end to the matter prior to his investigation. Then he provided zilch, and refuses to talk about it.
Meanwhile, Obama has spent millions of dollars covering up what would have cost him a few dollars to resolve. Still no real birth certificate (Computer files are not real evidence. If they were you could take your lap top to the DMV and show police office your driver’s license to them.)
All that spending tells any sane person, there is no valid birth certificate. That wouldn’t include you, however.
Re: “Abercrombie promised to put the entire issue to rest! But he was shown NOTHING.”
Answer: YOU claimed that Abercrombie had said that he could not find the birth certificate. He did not say it.
Yes, he said that he would try to put the issue to rest, but he couldn’t. That does not mean that he could not find the BC. It means that he could not find anything in addition to the BC that he could legally release (He is not allowed to release hospital records).
Re: ” They TOLD him they had found a reference to Obama in their files. WTF does that even mean???”
Answer: That statement about a reference in their files was in addition to the BC itself, and the repeated confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii that there is a BC in the files, and the short-form BC, which can only be created by a clerk reading the BC in the files, and the confirmation by the officials in Hawaii that all the facts on the BC are the same as on the long form BC that the White House published.
Re: “Meanwhile, Obama has spent millions of dollars covering up…”
Answer: He has not spent a single cent on the matter. Not a cent. In fact, there was never a lawsuit against him for his BC or for documents of any kind. Only lawsuits to get him off of ballots or declared ineligible, all of which Obama won. Since there was never a lawsuit for his BC (which BTW Obama has shown twice, short form and long form), there was never any expenditure, not one cent, on hiding it or on hiding any document. Obama did spend money on staying on the ballot, but a little money—since it does not cost very much to file the same boilerplate—and it was to stay on t he ballot, not to hide documents.
Re: “All that spending tells any sane person, there is no valid birth certificate. ”
Answer, the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly stated in writing and in court documents that the BC does exist, that they send copies of it to Obama and that the FACTS on the BC in the files are exactly the same as on the long form BC that the White House has published, and it remains nutty to believe that Obama’s parents were rich enough or stupid enough to send their daughter at high expense and high risk of stillbirth (and Yellow Fever in Kenya) to a foreign country alone (since Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 19610—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
That should read: “since Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961)—-when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.”
Abortion must mean a lot to you because you will come up with any cockamamie excuse you can to defend Obama.
Fact: Obama has spent millions instead of releasing his real birth certificate. You can make excuses all day long, but a valid birth certificate would have ended all the lawsuits. But he put forth a forgery instead. When you commit forgery you don’t get a second bite at the apple. He is left to using all sorts of antics to get out of complying.
PS,. You’re woefully and apparently willingly ignorant about Abercrombie. He claimed that he was told there was a written reference to Obama in the health department files. He saw nothing. He is took someone’s word only. Only a low paid shill like yourself would buy that pathetic story.
The nation is so corrupt at so many levels that it has allowed Obama to skate.
Obama showed a perfectly valid birth certificate, and it was confirmed by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, and that did not stop the lawsuits.
Re: “PS,. You’re woefully and apparently willingly ignorant about Abercrombie. He claimed that he was told there was a written reference to Obama in the health department files. He saw nothing. He is took someone’s word only. Only a low paid shill like yourself would buy that pathetic story. ”
Answer: What you said, and btw you notice that I never call names, was tnat Abercrombie said that he could not find the birth certificate. And he did not say any such thing. Abercrombie may not have looked into the files himself. Who cares? At least four other people did, all of whom stated that they had looked into the files and that there was an Obama birth certificate in them. Are you claiming that they all, all four of them, are lying? They have also stated that not only is there a BC in the files, but that it says EXACTLY what the published long-form that the White House shows, that Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital.
Re: “Fact: Obama has spent millions instead of releasing his real birth certificate. ”
Answer. No, it is not a fact at all. He has not spend millions (the figure is a birther claim), and he has released both his short-form and long-form birth certificate, so he has not spent money “instead of” because he did. And since the lawsuits were to keep him off of the ballot, they had nothing to do with his birth certificate. If they had asked to see his birth certificate or sued to see his birth certificate, they could have said that they asked to see it and/or started a lawsuit to see it. But they didn’t. They sued to keep him off of the ballot, not to see the birth certificate, and they LOST.
Your answers are getting sillier than ever.
Abercrombie did not see the BC. If he had seen it, he would have said he had seen it. He said nothing of the kind.
He also did not see the supposed reference to Obama’s name. You do realize that this supposed reference is also non-existent, don’t you? Please don’t tell me you think it actually exists simply because someone claimed it existed. Even you are that stupid and gullible are you?
YOU said that he did not find the BC. That implies that he looked for it. He did not say that he was going to look for it. He said that he was going to look for something else, something in addition to the BC. Well, he didn’t find it. As for him not seeing the BC in the files himself. Well, who cares. Four other people said that they saw it in the files, and the fact that Obama received a BC from Hawaii is also confirmed by the public Index Data file and by the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send notices to the “Health Bureau Statistics” section of the papers).
And it remains nutty to believe that Obama’s relatives were rich enough (they weren’t) or dumb enough to send their only daughter, late in pregnancy ALONE thousands of miles to a foreign country, at huge expense and risk of stillbirth (and of Yellow Fever in Kenya)—when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
(And, btw, the Kenyan government says that it checked the “born in Kenya” story, and that it is not true. And Obama’s Kenyan grandmother never said that he was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii. Birther sites simply cut off the tape before she was asked “Where was he born?)
Re: “One of the people who looked at Obama’s passport records was shot in the head three weeks later.”
Actually, he wasn’t. There was a guy who was shot in the head, but he never looked at Obama’s BC in the files. And there were two guys who looked at Obama’s BC in the files, but they were not shot dead, or shot at all.
http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2010/09/birther-mythbusting-leiutenant-quarles.html
Re: “Did they take the shrine of Obama’s birthplace down, too? ”
Answer: There is not now and never was a shrine or anything that says that Obama was born in Kenya, and in fact the Kenyan government has said that he was NOT born in Kenya. There may be a plaque saying that Obama’s FATHER was born in that particular village.
The Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …
Not a fan of Farrakhan, but he’s making sense on this one ….is he/she/it going to dispute the words of this man?
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV?id=%7BA11D49B2-89E1-4A87-93F3-FD62EDE27F4D%7D&title=Farrakhan-Obama-is-Terrorist-Oligarch-God-is-About-To-Take-Down&utm_source=e_breitbart_com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+March+4%2C+2013&utm_campaign=20130304_m115356897_Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+March+4%2C+2013&utm_term=More
Get out the calculators folks. These numbers are sure to shock you.
http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures
How Widespread is Voter Fraud? | 2012 Facts & Figures
Here are the facts:
To date, 46 states have prosecuted or convicted cases of voter fraud.
More than 24 million voter registrations are invalid, yet remain on the rolls nation-wide.
There are over 1.8 million dead voters still eligible on the rolls across the country.
More than 2.75 million Americans are registered to vote in more than one state.
True The Vote recently found 99 cases of potential felony interstate voter fraud.
Maryland affiliates of True The Vote uncovered cases of people registering and voting after their respective deaths.
This year, True The Vote uncovered more than 348,000 dead people on the rolls in 27 states.
California: 49,000
Florida: 30,000
Texas: 28,500
Michigan: 25,000
Illinois: 24,000
12 Indiana counties have more registered voters than residents.
The Ohio Secretary of State admitted that multiple Ohio counties have more registered voters than residents.
Federal records showed 160 counties in 19 states have over 100 percent voter registration.
The Florida New Majority Education Fund, Democratic Party of Florida and the National Council of La Raza are currently under investigation for alleged voter registration fraud.
True The Vote is Chuck Norris approved.
The Fact of this doesn’t shock me at all. I know that the thousands of left wing groups like Acorn (OH yes! it’s still around albeit under other names, and it’s affiliates still number in the neighborhood of over 330. These groups are spread far and wide, and their sole purpose is to recruit voters especially illegal voters which they know few notice, to swell the ballot box for Obama and every other candidate. The locust like spread of these groups has made it next to impossible to have a legal election. Voter ID would go a long way to stop this kind of thing. But, you won’t see that because they know they could not continue to steal votes under a program like that. What DOES shock me is seeing the actual numbers in print, adn no one will do a thing .
“Each and every day that goes by, it becomes more difficult to understand our government’s public policy decisions. The lines have been made very blurry. Why is it that we are so quick to assume that it is always purposeful and ingenious? Perhaps the cause for all the confusion and chaos is one man; a man that doesn’t possess the understanding and mental ability to know the difference between right or wrong and truth or lie.” SEE FULL STORY ~>http://beforeitsnews.com/2012/2013/02/is-obama-mentally-fit-to-serve-as-president-2443764.html
“Great news! National Coalition for Vietnam and Gulf War veterans joined my fight and seeking prosecution of ObamaForgeryGate”
Posted on | March 4, 2013 | 6 Comments
Supreme Court Docket 12A606
Dear Dr. Taitz,
Please note that the National Vietnam & Gulf War Veterans Coalition
has voted to communicate with the House Judiciary Committee our
dissatisfaction of the US Supreme Court denial on of the suit on February 19, 2013.
Inasmuch as the Coalition has endorsed a significant number of the
committee members, it is hoped that our effort is successful.
A copy of our correspondence will be forwarded to you,
Dr. Corsi and Sheriff Arpaio.
John Molloy
Chairman
National Vietnam & Gulf War Veterans Coalition
TUESDAY, MARCH 5, 2013
ANOTHER GREAT ESSAY BY PAUL R. HOLLRAH RE: THE FRAUD IN THE WHITE HOUSE…
phollrah@yahoo.com
Paying the Price
By Paul R. Hollrah
“It’s time we all asked ourselves a very important question, perhaps the most important question of our time.
· Assume we had a white man who claims to have been born to a foreign father and an American mother.
· Assume that this same man… with no money of his own… found a way to attend Ivy League colleges and universities, all on someone else’s dime.
· Assume that this man has never held a real job. Assume he’s never run a profit-making business and probably wouldn’t understand the economics of a sidewalk lemonade stand.
· Assume that this man is a committed socialist/communist/Marxist who has no love for our country and has no appreciation for what the capitalist system has produced.
· Assume that this man has never worn a military uniform, hates and despises the military, yet sees himself capable of commanding the world’s most powerful military force.
· Assume that this man believes that government is the source of all economic activity and that government must eliminate all unequal outcomes created by the capitalist system.
· Assume that this man is totally without honor, without integrity, and without conscience and that his only real talent is the ability to read sheer nonsense from a teleprompter and make it sound believable to the most ignorant and least informed among us.
· And finally, assume that this man has the unmitigated gall to run for president of the United States.
Ask yourself: Is it possible that such a man could ever be elected president of the United States?
The answer to that question is a resounding “no.” It could never happen. An individual such as I have described could not attract a single delegate to the Republican National Convention or, for that matter, to the Democratic National Convention. Yet it is precisely this sort of individual who was nominated by Democrats and elected by low-information voters in 2008 and in 2012.
So if it is impossible for any man such as I have described, of whatever background or ethnicity, to be nominated for the presidency by either major party, exactly what is it that makes Barack Obama… with no background or experience of any kind, with no proof of constitutional eligibility, and with no verifiable evidence of who he really is… unique among all men?
What causes me to ask this question is a recent report telling us that, while the U.S. economy approaches self-destruct status and everything Obama does to fix it makes matters worse, while he burdens our ever-shrinking military with unnecessary and unworkable social experiments, and while our enemies around the globe grow stronger and more threatening because of his weak-kneed foreign policy… he continues to grow in popularity.
To explain what makes Obama acceptable to so many, while no previous black presidential candidate was able to attract the same level of support, is not easy. Jesse Jackson won just 77% of the black vote nationwide in 1984, and 92% in 1988. In 2004, Rev. Al Sharpton won only 40% of the black vote in New York City, his home base, while carrying only 33% of the black vote statewide. A relative few white liberals and blue collar Democrats voted for Jackson and Sharpton, but certainly not in the numbers that lined up behind Obama in 2008 and 2012.
What is most sad about the Obama phenomenon is that, while future administrations may be able to reverse the damage done by his years in office, it can never be erased from our memories or from the pages of history. And while the social and political progress of blacks, generally, has made it possible for a qualified black man or woman to one day be elected president or vice president, it shall forever be the shame of our great nation that, when white liberals decided it was time to pay a price for the past sins of white men… past sins for which white conservatives and Republicans deny ownership… they picked the worst possible agent of absolution.
In fact, if Democrats had hired an executive recruiter in 2008 to prepare a list of the 100 black Americans most capable of being president, Barack Obama’s name would not have appeared on that list.
There are basically three kinds of people who voted for Obama in 2008 and in 2012: blacks, white liberals, and blue collar Democrats, but in each case they were motivated differently.
First, the low information blue collar Democrats. Why did they vote for Obama? They voted for Obama, not because they liked what he stood for, and not because they were anxious to vote for a black man. These are mostly Hillary Clinton supporters who, in 2008, could hardly mention Obama’s name without using the “n-word.” However, once he officially became the Democrat nominee they voted for him because: a) he had a “D” behind his name, and b) because their union bosses and the mainstream media pundits told them to. These are people best described as political “sheep.” They are propaganda sponges, not accustomed to thinking for themselves.
Secondly, the low information white liberals. Why did they vote for Obama in such numbers? I suspect it is because, while they have always harbored deep-seated and unspoken doubts that a black man could successfully run the country, they saw Obama as someone just a bit different. They saw Obama as a black man untainted by an ounce of slave blood, a black man with facial features inherited from his white mother.
In fact, white liberals put a great deal of stock in Obama’s mixed ethnicity. And since they have always known that one day they would have to pay a price for centuries of slavery, Jim Crow laws, Black Codes, and KKK atrocities… all the exclusive handiwork of Democrats… they felt that by allowing Obama to capture the White House they could make a small down payment on a long-standing debt owed to black people. After all, what harm could he possibly do?
It should be noted that, given the level of racism in the Democrat Party, the only way a black Democrat can be elected is if Democrats carve out a majority black district for them. Unlike black Republicans, who can be elected in majority white districts, black Democrats cannot.
And finally, low information black voters. I strongly suspect that, even among black voters, previous black candidates may have been seen as just a bit “too black.” In a perverse sort of way, after centuries of oppression because of the color of their skin, it is understandable that many blacks still harbor deep-seated feelings of inferiority, causing them to have doubts about the ability of a black man to run the country. They have been so conditioned by liberals and Democrats to see themselves as victims that it is impossible for them to see themselves as the equal of white men… as successful black conservatives such as Herman Cain, Lt. Col. Allen West, Dr. Benjamin Carson, and many other successful black men see themselves.
In Barack Obama, blacks found a man whom they perceived as being acceptable to whites. He was the half-white black narcissist that they could proudly offer up as a representative black man. He was everything that low-information voters require in a candidate: he was young, he was cool, he was black, and he was willing to promise them all the free stuff their hearts desired.
If we are able to survive Obama, and if there is a silver lining in the dark cloud he represents, it is that history… the great debunker of political fairy tales… will record that he was in charge at a time when the culmination of a century of liberalism nearly brought our great nation to its knees; it is his name that will be most associated with that near-disaster. And when Democrats are forced to run another national campaign without the name of this once-in-a-lifetime snake-oil salesman on the ballot, they will find that voters will once again see them for what they are.
Because of who and what he is, Obama can only be viewed as a unique phenomenon, one that social philosophers and historians may never be able to fully explain. In our lifetime, western civilization has survived a Hitler, a Stalin, and a Mussolini, and we will survive Obama, as well. God willing, once he is gone from the scene the free world will never again be forced to endure another like him. Not only was he the wrong man for the country in our time, he would be the wrong man for the country at any time.
And now that the Obamas have so shamelessly and inappropriately interjected themselves into the annual Academy Awards, what’s next for them? With an empty space next to his Nobel Peace Prize medal, will he pressure the Hollywood moguls to create a new Oscar category: Best Imitation of a President? If so, will he be able to win out over stars such as Martin Sheen and Michael Douglas? Or, since we’ve learned in the past five years that his only real talent is the ability to smile nicely while reading poppycock from a teleprompter, will he be satisfied with the “face time” he’ll get by merely hosting the 2014 Academy Awards?
The one great overriding question Democrats asked themselves during the 2008 presidential primary was this: When the White House telephone rings at 3:00 o’clock in the morning, who would you rather have answer that call… Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama? Our experience of the past four years shows that the answer to the question is: “neither of them.” Nevertheless, low-information voters have combined with guilt-ridden liberals to elect a charlatan to sit in the Oval Office, and now we all find ourselves paying a huge price.”
Assume that this man has never held a real job.
He did work for Baskin Robbins and for Business International, and at the law firm in Chicago where he met Michelle.
In any case, he is a Natural Born US Citizen, having been born in Hawaii and since the meaning of Natural Born Citizen refers to the place of birth and not to the citizenship of the parents. And he was re-elected on November 6, 2012, and he will be president for the next four years. The Dow Jones Average and the Standard and Poor’s Average closed at record new highs today.
Triple my money supply, and I’ll double your return – that is what the stock market is doing.
With the money supply being tripled since 2008, the stock market should be triple what it was since 2008, not counting business expansion, not merely double.
I explained this to you before, but the wiring in your head seems to be shorting out.
No question about it. But people are putting their money into stocks, not gold (hence they are not worrying about inflation despite the vast increase in the money supply) and corporations are really and truly having record profits. Yes, sure, no question about it, a Republican pro-business approach would increase corporate profits even faster. But the fact remains that Obama’s policies were not bad enough to actually reduce profits.
And, the way things are going, unemployment–measured anyway that you want (I agree that the official figures are distorted, but they have been distorted for decades) will gradually decline, and that makes it likely that in 2016 Hillary or some other Democrat will win and become president.
You finally got something right. The Democrats will win in 2016 no matter how bad the economy is or anything else because they have figured out how to rig the elections and also discovered that the Republicans won’t utter a peep about it.
I’m also going to respond to the literary agent question here because the threading system here is getting out of control. This will be my last reply to any post on this thread, so knock yourself out with a mega cut and paste along with any other lies you see fit to spew..
Re: “No literary agent writes an author’s bio. They NEVER do it. It is done by the author in their book proposal. ”
Helen: “Have you worked with all the literary agents in the world? Have you worked with the one in this case?”
Not only have I worked with more than one agent, I’ve read books and online about the subject of getting an agent. EVERY SINGLE ONE will tell you the same thing. The author writes the bio. ALWAYS.
Find me an agent who says otherwise?
Why would an agent who doesn’t know the person’s background write the bio?? Certainly writers can write, so who better to write it? Every agent will give you the answer to that question.
Yes, the agent lied. It’s not even a debate whether she lied because agents don’t write their author’s bios. Isn’t it funny how the agent picked Kenya as the place of birth. Why not Camaroon, or Zaire, or the UK for that matter? Nope, she chose Kenya. LOL! (Actually she didn’t. I’m being sarcastic. Barry wrote Kenya.)
That’s why Obama didn’t register for the draft in 1980. He wasn’t required to. But to work in the WH, he had to be registered. His registration is on a 2008 form. Oops!
Chew on that one – then write some lies about it, why don’t you. Goodbye. Have a nice abortion since you love them so much.
Re: “. His registration is on a 2008 form. Oops! ”
Oops indeed. Oops for sure. Absolutely OOPS. I agree with you: Obama’s Selective Service registration was INDEED forged—and as you point out very very badly forged. It was forged by the person who posted it. But, neither Obama nor his staff posted it. And, the person who posted it, did not even claim to have gotten it from Obama or from his staff.
That forgery, like the “Kenyan birth certificates” and the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya (she said that he was born in Haweaii), and the claim that Obama became an Indonesian citizen (which the Indonesian Embassy in Washington says is not true), was made by a person who hates Obama.
Re: “Yes, the agent lied. It’s not even a debate whether she lied because agents don’t write their author’s bios.’
Answer: Sure she did. Sure she did. Sure. You claim that Obama wrote that he was born in Kenya. Well, he didn’t. We know that because the book that the blurb was about says that he was born in Hawaii. He wrote that he was born in Hawaii. He did not write that he was born in Kenya. (And the idea that he was born in Kenya, or thought he was born in Kenya, is completely nutty based on the huge expense and risk of such a trip to his mother late in pregnancy.)
Obama did not think that he was born in Kenya, and he wasn’t—as the statement of the Kenyan government shows. It investigated whether or not Obama was born in Kenya, and it found that Obama was not born in Kenya.
And Obama had absolutely no motive for lying and claiming that he was born in Kenya. It is unlikely that a book written by a person born in Kenya will sell significantly more copies than a book written by a person born in the USA.
So, the literary agent—who said that she made a MISTAKE—was not lying. She really did make a mistake. She mixed up Obama’s father, Barack Hussein Obama I, who was really born in Kenya, with Obama himself, who was born in Hawaii. And the idea that his parents had the huge amount of money to send her on an expensive and dangerous trip to Kenya when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii—is simply nutty.
Further to the above, and regarding the issue of Obama’s Social Security number and the issue of the mistake in his bio blurb, and mistakes in general:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/03/obamas-typos/#comments
Re: “Why would an agent who doesn’t know the person’s background write the bio?? Certainly writers can write, so who better to write it? Every agent will give you the answer to that question.”
Answer: People write about things they don’t know about all the time. And, they forget to check the facts frequently. And they have even been known to forget to send copies of blurbs to the author for checking.
http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/45122/obama-impeachment-hearings-begin/ —-> MARCH 11, 2013
“On Monday March 11, 2013, Congress is beginning impeachment proceedings against Barack Obama.
Members of Congress are reportedly beginning impeachment against Barack Obama based on the grounds of unauthorized use of the military in Libya and Syria. Congress is also looking into his involvement in the Fast and Furious scandal.
According to Congressional representatives Barack Obama has violated the rules that clearly state that the President must seek Congressional approval before using military force. Now he says it was OK because he had international support. ”But how does that make it okay? They aren’t our Congress. They don’t determine what is right or wrong for us,” said a prominent Republican Congressman.
Sources close to aides in Congress say the Constitution clearly states “any use of military force by Obama without explicit consent and authorization of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, Section 4.”
The Republicans want to know how President Obama was able to use military force in Libya last year.
Republicans are pushing a resolution through Congress, which has been highly underreported by mainstream media, to look into further actions to be taken against the President. Since it explicitly states in the Constitution that the President must ask permission from Congress to use military forces in another country, sources say there is clear cause for impeachment.
While an impeachment can be a strain on our country and may not be necessary in an election year – Republicans are still moving ahead with it.
“The days of Czars and Executive orders in order to sidestep Congress should end and if it takes an impeachment to do that, well… it is something I and many other Americans would support,” said another prominent Republican Congressman.
“We have a President who believes our Constitution is just a ‘historical document’ that is not fit to determine how our country is run anymore,” said the Congressman.
Democrats, obviously, are opposing the impeachment effort but sources close to Republican leaders say that they are “moving full speed ahead” because “we need something to keep us busy until the next election.”
Stay tuned…”
Seriously? You are citing Weekly World News as your source? Do you have any idea what Weekly World News is?
Re: ““On Monday March 11, 2013, Congress is beginning impeachment proceedings against Barack Obama.”
March 11, 2013 was yesterday, and Congress did not begin “impeachment proceedings.”
More than a week has passed since March 11, 2013, and Congress did not begin “impeachment proceedings.”
I see that Jenny_CW has been noticeably silent on this since she swallowed that bogus story by Weekly World News.
I do not make it a practice to converse with spawn of Satan. Anyone that supports the intrinsic evil that is squatting in OUR White House is possessed by him. Go ahead and drink the cyanide laced with Valium as instructed.
I didn’t say anything about supporting Obama.
Do you make it a practice of reading Weekly World News? Or do you just automatically believe anything you read? Are you incapable of admitting that you were wrong?
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/53540#.UTaBe2uT4ZQ.twitter
Couple excerpts:
“There is an old saying that “there are none so blind as those who will not see” that surely applies to the majority of non-seeing followers of Obama.”
“A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law abiding citizens.”
Entire article:
4 More Years: Obama’s Forward Program to Socialistic-Communism Is Easier; Let’s Deny him
- Jerry McConnell (Bio and Archives) Tuesday, March 5, 2013
I’m having a hard time making up my mind whether so many Americans are actually incredibly stupid or just terribly naïve. The ones I am referring to are mostly Democrats with a smattering of RINOs included.
You’ve heard of RINOs, haven’t you? Not to be confused with those big ugly animals with big ugly tusks in the middle of their foreheads, these RINOs are registered Republicans who, when it comes to making decisions, can’t make up their minds whether they are socialist liberals or patriotic conservatives who follow the principles of our founding fathers and not the teachings of Communists such as Trotsky, Stalin and Gorbachev.
It is a well known fact that 66 million residents, not necessarily all legal citizens, of a once good solid 80 percent Christian-believing country turned their backs on their Christian roots and religion and voted for a Communist trained and raised Socialist who pretended he was of the Christian faith who was theologically mentored by a false practitioner who proudly proclaimed, “God Damn America” to his followers and to the world in general, leaving no doubts that both the false minister and the pretend Christian, Rev. Wright and Barack Obama were and are deep-souled socialist-communists ready and willing to take all of your worldly goods and treasures and pass them on to whom they call “the needy” and to others as “the greedy” who refuse to make do for themselves; meanwhile adding to their own prodigious fortunes in the process.
Why so many American citizens deserted their Christian upbringing and endorsed a Communist to lead them into a form of government that has not been successful in any country in the world where it has been forced on to the people in dictatorial fashion has to be amnesia-type behavior.
The defenders of this charlatan say he has done nothing that should make people distrust his motives. There is an old saying that “there are none so blind as those who will not see” that surely applies to the majority of non-seeing followers of Obama. It is quite baffling how his personal charm and mountainous ‘BS’ has so entranced so many people who can’t see the ultimate path to destruction he has projected for America into communism and poverty for the working classes being stripped of their worldly goods by the corrupt and nefarious United Nations in their “redistribution of the wealth” of which he frequently speaks.
When I hear Obama’s followers praising him I ask what he has done for the country and incredibly they will comment on “how well things are today”. After I have recovered from a near unconscious state of amazement I always ask them to name “just one good thing he has done for the country in his first 4 years in office.” The blank looks on their faces always preface some utterings regarding the economy sending me back into the state of paralysis and unbelievability. When I bring up the matter of our current mountain of public debt they can offer no better explanation than to once more place the “blame on Bush.” Then, adding to their total loss of credibility, they bring up how he has straightened the mess of public healthcare with the absolute disaster of ObamaCare. At that point, I slowly walk away, sadly shaking my head.
Most all good Americans accept the premise that the truly needy and our physically handicapped neighbors rightfully should receive assistance from those of us who are more fortunate and enjoy good health conditions. That is why America is blessed to have one of the world’s highest population of donors.
The United States is in the top five of the world’s most charitable nations, sharing that honor with Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Canada and tied for 5th place with Switzerland. In what place are the two biggest Socialist-Communist nations of China and Russia? Out of the 153 nations accounted for in this ‘most charitable’ group, Russia is 144th and China ranks 147th.* —(*The Guardian.co.uk DATA BLOG)
For those interested, the nation in last place, 153rd, is Africa’s Madagascar where ninety percent of the two million population average earn less than $2.00 per day. So much for the joys and pleasures of Socialist-Communist living.
John Blake on CNN.com online April 14, 2010 publicly proclaimed, “Socialized healthcare is on the way. The socialist agenda “is taking over America” and best of all Barack Obama, a “committed socialist ideologue” is in the Oval Office.
Forwarded by a friend, author unknown:
“A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law abiding citizens.”
“A sizeable portion of the American electorate doesn’t care or can’t grasp the complexity of certain issues and legislation. Many of them not only don’t understand sequester, they probably never heard the word, since it doesn’t come up a lot on the Kardashians. But even the not-too-smart crowd understands waste. And maybe they’ll start to understand when they’re being played for suckers. A president who will threaten us with massive hardship – all over modest cuts in the increase in spending – and does nothing to stop junkets at his Agriculture Department – is not a leader. Not one any of us should be proud of, anyway.”
http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/a-president-we-cant-be-proud-of/
“Senator Rand Paul has drawn a line in the sand with his filibuster. He will stop if and when Barack Obama or Eric Holder clarify the White House drone policy regarding regarding the targeting of American citizens on American soil.”
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/03/06/It-s-On-Who-Blinks-Rand-Paul-or-Barack-Obama
All you lefties must be mighty proud.
“In preparation for US president’s Mideast visit, protestors say he is not welcome in their city, throw shoes at US diplomatic vehicle.”
“We won’t receive Obama with flowers and a red carpet,” he declared. “We will receive him with shoes. We want to tell America that we hate you and you have no place here. We don’t want to see Obama in Palestine. He is coming to save Israel. He does not have anything to offer our people.”
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Bethlehem-rioters-set-fire-to-pictures-of-Obama-306831
The idea that the protestors in Palestine would celebrate the arrival of any American president, Republican or Democrat, is bonkers.
“Make no mistake; Benghazi-Gate is the criminal enterprise that will bring the Obama Regime down, but that won’t happen if Congress helps Barack Obama sweep this criminal conspiracy under the rug. We must demand answers… we must demand action… and we mustn’t stop until Congress uncovers the truth and removes the Usurper-in-Chief from office.”
http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2013/03/20/is-this-the-scandal-that-will-bring-obama-down/
“The fathers of modern terrorism.”
http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-speaks-under-arafat-banner_708753.html
Dr. Benjamin Carson Demonstrated That the Emperor Has No Clothes
By Aaron Goldenberg on March 05, 2013
Lessons For Republican Politicians and Political Operatives
“Like the emperor in the Hans Christian Andersen fable, our modern day emperor parades before his subjects shrouded in a cloak of fantasy. He tells us the economy is “built to last” and yet it does not grow. He tells us HE “created six million new jobs” when the Bureau of Labor Statistics confirms hardly any have been created and nearly 10 million of his subjects have left the workforce.
The emperor sows the seeds of resentment by proclaiming that he wants to raise taxes on “millionaires and billionaires” and forgets to tell everyone earning a paycheck that their payroll taxes will rise. He does this, in part, to offset tax breaks for favored “millionaires and billionaires” and sweeps tax increases on health insurance, medical devices, income, investment, retirement and death under the rug.
The emperor promised that “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan, period.” Apparently, the emperor forgot to tell Universal Orlando, one of many businesses cancelling health insurance coverage for part-time workers or converting full-time staff to part-time staff to avoid the requirement of providing health insurance coverage. The emperor forgot to tell his subjects that many will be forced to ‘trade up’ to more expensive health insurance plans that include many “free” preventative services often omitted from the less expensive catastrophic health insurance plans they are currently enrolled in.
The emperor tells his subjects that “we’ve already agreed to more than $2 trillion in cuts and savings” when he knows that the inclusion of his 2009 “temporary stimulus” in the federal budget baseline is largely the reason the country is running trillion dollar annual deficits. The emperor claims to advocate a “balanced approach” to balancing the budget, yet strains to find $44 billion in spending cuts notwithstanding that his own auditor finds $125 billion in annual waste.
The emperor seeks to distract us by foisting ‘immigration reform’ to the top of the national agenda. He promises to secure our nation’s borders ‘this time’ despite testimony that “the Department of Homeland Security no longer uses control of the actual border as a measure of how well the Border Patrol is doing its job.” In fact, the emperor just busted 2000 criminal illegal aliens out of jail in an effort to “save money.”
Yet, the subjects re-elected their emperor largely because his opposition did not push back forcefully enough and expose these myths. What happens when Republicans in Congress raise taxes in the dead of night? Or when a swing state Republican governor signs the largest tax increase in his state’s history into law? Or even worse, Congressional Republicans and Republican governors across the country agree to fund a dramatic expansion of Medicaid under the emperor’s unpopular health insurance law, and a Republican United States Senator and a self-proclaimed fiscal hawk makes a campaign contribution to a liberal Democrat who supports the emperor’s legislative agenda? Republicans dilute their opposition to the emperor’s message of higher taxes, increased regulation and an ever more expansive federal government. As a result, more voters, especially those in states without clear partisan majorities, become less inclined to support Republican candidates since they do not see them supporting clearly articulated principles.
This brings us to Dr Benjamin Carson. Dr. Carson is a world renown pediatric neurosurgeon. He is not a politician or political operative. Nonetheless, the speech that he delivered to a room full of the country’s political elite received dramatic acclaim including over 500,000 views on YouTube, approximately the same number who viewed the emperor’s recent address to Congress.
In a calm and rational tone with the emperor seated two chairs to his right, Dr. Carson spoke of the dangers of moral relativism and political correctness. While the emperor speaks of throwing good money after bad in failing public school systems, he promotes his charitable foundation which builds libraries in schools that have none. He also describes the virtues of family, hard work and personal responsibility crediting all three for his resultant success. While the emperor promotes the expansion of government to ease the burdens many face in life, Dr. Carson promotes personal responsibility teaching that overcoming such obstacles makes people stronger. While the emperor promotes the dramatic growth of the welfare state through his unpopular health insurance law, He articulates the virtues and the feasibility of free market solutions. Dr. Carson admonishes the emperor for all the debt he has accumulated and reproaches the emperor for the seeds of envy that he sows. Dr. Carson expounds on the biblical origins of the fairest system of taxation, one in which everyone pays at an equal rate.
He does not claim to have all the answers and readily admits that several of his ideas might need “tweaking.” Yet, without imposing ideological rigidity or seeking to craft solutions that protect political interest groups, Dr. Carson has lowered the mask on the carnage the emperor has wreaked over the past four years. The author of a book titled “America the Beautiful: Rediscovering What Made This Nation Great” presents an optimistic and specific vision about how to restore America’s greatness. He does not seek to tear us down and divide us like the emperor, nor does he craft solutions with an eye toward being able to point fingers and ascribe blame as some political strategists do. Like a scientist and a surgeon, he seeks to solve problems and heal a nation.
Washington politicians denigrate the Tea Party movement as uncouth. Yet, it attracts millions of followers because many do not feel their voices are represented in our nation’s capital. Dr. Carson spoke to half a million of us. Imagine how many more would listen if our nation’s leaders started whistling his tune.”
“They are not coming for our guns, but they are coming for us”
“Understanding the Obama conspiracy & U.S. takeover”
- Doug Hagmann (Bio and Archives) Thursday, January 17, 2013
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52426
Poll – 10057 – Should Barack Obama be impeached?
Should Barack Obama be impeached?
1. Yes, if Obama isn’t guilty of “high crimes and misdemeanors” then the phrase has no meaning (94.6%)
2. No, he has done nothing that rises to the level of an impeachable offense ( 2.86%)
Not Answered ( 2.47%)
“When Obama ordered those who were ready to rescue Americans at the Benghazi illegal CIA run”Guns are Us” out post to stand down, he committed probably the worst high crime and misdemeanor of all in his woeful term of failed leadership.” See complete story below.
http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/wheres-admiral-gaouette-and-the-benghazi-cba/