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January 7, 2012 by 63 Comments
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I understand the attack on Sheriff Araipo now. Eric Holder is doing the work for his Boss, the president of the United states. The good Sheriff has done nothing wrong, he is just doing the job that he was elected for. And, I believe if the Sheriff wasn’t doing his job, the citizen of the county that he is Sheriff of would fire him. Eric Holder is attacking Sheriff Araipo over, what Eric say is, racism over Mexican illegals, and how I understand it is, it has nothing to do with his relationship with the citizens of Arizona, especially Legal citizens. What the true reason for Eric’s attack is what the good Sheriff is doing about Preident Obama’s possible noncitizenship of the United States, due to a suspicious 2 million dollar lock up of Obama’s personal information, and a phoney BC. Why is the President being so secretive about his personal information? What is he attempting to hide? It makes little sense to the majority of the American Citizens. Every American what to know the truth about President Obama, and want the President to be TRANSPARENT as he Promised he would. Personally, I don’t know if the President is legal or not, I assume that he is legal, but there is reason to be suspicious, and the President has caused that doubt for not allowing his personal information to be investigated. And so, that is why I believe Eric Holder is having the Good Sheriff Investigated, hoping to find something bad on Sheriff Araipo before the investigation on President Obama is done.
Just another act of TREASON and Holder Obama and Napolitano shold all be tried for TREASON and put before the fireing squad, I am surpriswd that they have lived this long considering their TREASON acts.
Let’s look at the facts here. Holder is a criminal felon who the spineless GOP in the House refuses to impeach for a multitude of crimes, not the least of which is perjury, when he lied to a House committee investigating the criminal illegal transportation of guns across the border to Mexico in operation fast and furious. He outright lied about his knowledge of the operation when he said he had just heard about it a few weeks before his testimony, when emails proved he was aware of this heinous crime over a year earlier and was obviously behind its implementation. Holder is a racist criminal water boy for Barry the usurper. Sheriff Joe is doing the job he was elected to do and as an elected Sheriff he has more power than the President in the state of Arizona and certainly is not subject to federal prosecution for upholding Arizona and Federal immigration law. His cold case posse is about to expose the fraud in the White House and Holder the errand boy criminal is trying to interfere with the release of the damning evidence gathered by the posse. They cannot touch the Sheriff who serves at the will of the people and their refusal to release their allegations against Joe is telling. Sheriff Joe will not be deterred and if Barry’s lackeys come to Maricopa county, the Sheriff can and should arrest them on the spot for obstruction of justice!
The shoe is about to drop and Barry is pissing in his panties, just like the spineless girl he is. He’s a fraud and a treasonous criminal and the wool is going to come off of peoples eyes real soon! Joe will git er’ done!
Congress IS INVESTIGATING AND DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN…IT IS TAKING FREAKING TOO LONG BECAUSE THE CRIMINAL HOLDER IS NOT RELEASING DOCUMENTS EXCEPT IN DRIPS AND DRABS. There are more things and investigations going on behind the scenes. Give our Congress a break!! Issa and Grassley are trusted allies in this and there are many more like them. With a corrupt w.h. and corrupt DOJ……..it is like spitting in the wind….Support them and give them credit where credit is due. It is time to stop accusing our good conservatives of being cowards (broad strokes)…there are some there but stop beating up on our good, honest men and women who are doing what they can. It’s not like this criminal administration isn’t throwing 100 things out a day in which to counter and fight against!
Congress is not doing everything it can.
For a year the RINOs in the House have refused to carry the fight to the head of the snake and investigate Obama himself.
Issa has refused to subpoena Obama’s original birth certificate, showing his actual birth parents. Issa said, pinkie extended, to do so would be “overreaching”.
Philip Rucker of the Washington Post reported on 18 December 2010, ” . . . there’s one thing Issa says he won’t subpoena: Barack Obama’s birth certificate. ‘Mine is not the committee that asks where the president was born,’ Issa said in an interview. ‘It doesn’t ask what ministers that he went to think. All that stuff is a distraction. I’m not the overseer of the president.’
This is insane, a gross dereliction of duty and a seditiouos cover-up for Obama, a probable mole.
Obama’s original birth certificate, while it would show he was AT BIRTH a natural born U.S. citizen, would also she that he is not the son of a black alien father. That’s why Obama doesn’t release it; instead, he puts out a masked or cropped picture of his adoption certificate on the false pretense that it is his original birth certificate.
Issa should also subpoena Obama’s DNA, which would disprove the “birth certificate” proffered by Obama on 27 April 2011, by proving it’s biologically impossible for Obama to be the son of a Negro father and a Caucasian mother.
Obama’s eligibility at birth being established, an honest Oversight Committee chairman would move on to the real issue of Obama’s constitutional eligibility, his Indonesian citizenship and its effect, if any, on his U.S. citizenship.
Not the overseer of the President?! Indeed. What is he good for, then? For nothing. He is a good for nothing, This is an institutional sin. Every incumbent of Congress should be recalled or voted out of office. They have cost us our Republic.
Congress investigating? Doing everything it can? Don’t make me laugh. It only hurts when I laugh. Congress refuses to investigate the main problem, and fails to take effective action on the subordinate ones – not to minimize their importance – that it does investigate.
Don’t get your hopes up.
Obama’s in the catbird’s seat.
100% dead on correct Gustyj. I would add that Oscuma and Holder should be charged with being accessories to murder for planning, authorizing, and implementing Op Fast & Furious that led to the murder of two Federal Agents.
Gus…I can answer that question. Isn’t the silence on this matter out of CONgress deafening ? Doesn’t it seem that they are in cahoots with OJUDAS ? The fact is they ALL know ALL the facts about this usurper. Unfortunately I can think of only 1 of the 535 that have enough courage to call it like it is and that’s Allen West. The rest of the 534 have been emasculated and don’t want to rock the boat because they’re afraid they’ll lose their retirement slush fund and all the things that go with it. I am NOT an attorney, I can’t be I’m already reserved my home in heaven, but in my estimation it seems to me that all 535 are guily of complacency and aiding and abetting OJUDAS. I am old enough to remember the events of the 50′s and 60′s. One of the things I most remember is what Kruschev said about America one time. He said that the Soviet Union could take over the United States without ever firing one shot. That he would take it over from within. I never dreamed I’d live long enough to see it happen. I don’t know that it’s Russia that’s doing this. It looks more like a Soreass (Soros) tactic. Nonetheless it’s happening. My most adamant question is this…..WHERE ARE ALL THE TRUE PATRIOTS ? Why are we standing idly by and watching this happen to our beloved country ? How can we allow our American brothers and sisters of the past shed their blood and give their lives for this nation , only to be eradicated from the history books and replaced with a communist manifesto ? If I had my way it would be REQUIRED that every American read and comprehend our three great national treasures. That being….The Constitution…The Declaration Of Independence…and The Bill Of Rights. In those three documents WE THE PEOPLE were provided with remedies to correct situations like we have now. But Americans don’t even know what their rights, privileges and their obligations are. That is sad. I will do a follow up post on here with some quotes from our forefathers. At least folks will become familiar with the philosophy of the creators of this nation ! Then hopefully they’ll read our founding documents. The Bible says that “My people perish for lack of knowlegde.” AMEN to that !
Read these and hold them close in your memory and your heart !
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” – Thomas Jefferson
“When a government betrays the people by amassing too much power and becoming tyrannical, the people have no choice but to exercise the original rights of self defense – to fight the government.” – Alexander Hamilton
“The ultimate authority resides in the people, and that if the federal government got too powerful and overstepped its authority, then the people would develop plans of resistance and resort to arms.” – James Madison
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson
“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.” – Abraham Lincoln
“We, the people are rightful masters of both Congress and the courts – not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” – Abraham Lincoln
“We need a revolution every 200 years, because all governments become stale and corrupt after 200 years.” – Ben Franklin
“What country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson
Your confidence in Allen West is misplaced.
On the Obama matter, he has been dumb as dirt and totally feckless. I wrote to him requesting action and got no reply. Those congressmen who did reply lied through their teeth.
Not sure but I think it was the Tea Party that was paying the Sheriff to investigate obama’s records, and not done on State pay or government paid time. I know there was a fund raising last year for this, can anyone check this out?
obama must be worried what the Sheriff found, thats why Holder trying to have him resign.
And the racist thing against a man who is a mexican/indian descendent is racist on the part of obama/holder. Guess the good sheriff isn’t black enough for them.
The Tea Party initiated a petition submitted to Sheriff Joe to get the investigation going. However, I don’t believe the Tea Party is paying for this directly but is making contributions. He is using a volunteer posse to investigate this and is not using any taxpayer money.
Sheriff Joe attended a Tea Party meeting in December and gave a brief update on this. He said the posse is uncovering information that should be of interest. He stated “where there is smoke there is fire, and there is a lot of smoke.” Final report is supposed to come out in February but obviously they want to make sure they have all the information before releasing an official report.
Shelley, If you are apart of this tea part, and privledged to the info when it comes out, if possible could you get in touch with me on Facebook or if you would like my email address I’ll give it to you. I would really like to know what they come up with.
They have no power to get “all the information”.
It sounds as if your right on topp of everyone, mr. eingriff, and can read minds pretty damn good to. Mr. eingriff, at least you seem to have everybody’s answer for them. Hell, maybe you ought to start writing your own column, like the old Ann Lander column just like she use to have, since you seem to know what or what not the Obama machine can or can’t do, or what other’s can or can’t come up with, this way, after we put down our comment’s, we’ll start coming to you for all the answers, what do you say about that mr. engriff?
Gee willikers, michael11, do I detect some sarcasm, here?
I have volunteered to investigate the Obama matter, for expenses only, but there seems to be no opening for a sage.
I don’t know how you conclude I have everybody’s answer for them, beyond the display of my superior powers of observation, deduction and analysis. And I’m wise. People are quick to admit I’m a wise guy.
I’m saying we don’t know what we need to know, and official investigation is necessary to get the facts. Official investigation by a body that can issue subpoenae and compel sworn testimony – oh, and disclose why Obama is not immune to investigation, because he’s not black.
Thanks for telling me what you think. It tends to confirm some inklings I have about why people don’t accept the most plausible reconstruction of events after careful, learned, rational and objective assessment of the reliability of the source, the tactics of professional liars trying to put investigators off the scent, and a finely honed intuition about human behavior and susceptibility to manipulation of belief through psychological operations, especially communist propaganda:
1. In the pharmaceutical industry, where I spent many years, people often referred to “the N.I.H. syndrome”. Not referring, as one might think, to “National Institutes of Health” but rather to “Not Invented Here”. People resent being told what they hadn’t perceived. People don’t perceive that Dr. Fukino excludes Barack Hussein Obama the alien black Luo tribesman, as Obama’s birth father, so they resent being enlightened to the high probability that such is the case. If Fukino is right, that Obama was a natural born U.S. citizen, the black Luo can’t be his father, because the Luo is alien. Remember, Welden’s sole ground for ineligibility is that Obama had an alien father. If in fact he had two U.S. citizen parents (I suspect Stanley Armour Dunham and an unknown native Hawai’ian wahine) then Welden has no case.
2. People jump to conclusions from which they firmly never budge. They read that Obama’s birth father was a black alien and they want to believe it. Some are sympathetic to Negroes and want to believe he’s the first African American President. Some are biased against Negroes and want to believe Obama’s half Negro because his reprehensible behavior confirms their prejudices.
3. Some people just don’t want to know. Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach is loath to learn the evidence about Obama’s loss of U.S. citizenship from Obama’s naturalization as an Indonesian citizen. The evidence will be conflicting. He will have to evaluate it, balance it, decide whether to allow Obama on the ballot, when he’s afraid to keep him off because Kobach, poor man, still labors under the delusion that Obama had a black father and his finding would mean blood in the streets. One must forgive Kobach, for he knows not what he does; he went to The Other Law School.
4. People want certainty. They want to feel certain they have “the answer”. They need to learn the things they don’t know, so as to seek the answer. Ignorance should be a spur to learn, not to stiff-arm official inquiry that offers some hope, at least, of finding as much of the truth as can be found. In a final test I took in a graduate tax law course at Villanova Law School, each question was impossible to answer because the statement of facts left out one or more relevant and material facts. I got each right by pointing out the facts I would seek to resolve the question. Only A in the course. I’m good at that. I applied that skill to the Obama matter. Others, sadly, have not.
So it’s elementary, my dear michael11. If official inquiry proves my suspicions correct, I’ll have a big head. If not, I’ll have plenty of crow to eat.
So pray the Georgia Court pries the original birth certificate out of the Hawai’i Health Department. Then (I hope) we’ll all be on the way to enlightenment on a dark subject.
Will Obama then turn off the internet and try to rule by decree? Think about it.
If you want to know what the investigation comes up with, just keep your eyes and ears open. Sheriff Joe will let us all know when the investigation concludes.
I have been a strong supporter of Sheriff Joe since he was first elected! Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse is doing the Obama investigation and it is supported by private donations only (NO GOVERNMENT OR TAXPAYER MONEY IS USED)! If you and all the others really want to help, please go to the website below and give whatever you can! This isn’t just for Arizona! It is in the interest of all Americans for the truth to be told! STANDUP FOR AMERICA!
http://www.mcsoccp.org/joomla/
Reply to Michael11. Mr. Barack Hussein Obama Jr. is NOT a natural born US citizen within the meaning of our Constitution for one and possibly two or more reasons. First and foremost, his father was not a US citizen. Second, he was adopted by an Indonesian man and made a citizen of Indonesia. It would not matter where he was born if both his parents were US citizens. Barack Hussein Obama Sr. may not be Jr.’s actual sire, but the fact that Jr.’s mother was married to Sr. makes Jr. his legal son. Now that BHO Jr. has published a birth certificate declaring BHO Sr. is his father, it would be problematical for him now to say otherwise. Pretty sorry display of ignorance for a supposed Constitutional law professor.
Was his mother, at the time of The Prez birth, a natural born citizen of our great America? Assuming she was does make him a natural born citizen thru his mother, no matter if he was adopted by this Indo. man. I was born in Germany by two natural born citizens, making me a natural born citizen of the United States, and at the same time I was given a German citizen BC making me a dual citizen of two countries. Even if I was born by a one parent citizen, (namely my mommie) and had no father that would claim me from some guy in bum f__k egypt, that would still make me an American citizen, no matter if I was born in Germany, because my mommie was a US Citizen. So, what you are saying is, if how I explained it was true, I wouldn’t be a citizen of the good ole US of A? Is that what you are saying?
Take a deep breath, michael11.
If you were born in Germany you are not a natural born citizen of the United States as the term is used in Article II Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution.
Obama’s real birth father will be proved by his original birth certificate, confirmed by DNA analysis, not by what Obama says.
Indeed, the fact that Obama claims a black man as his father raises the presumption that it’s untrue, precisely because this pathological liar said it.
Dr. Fukino, who is far more credible than Obama, stated on 27 July 2009 that the “vital records” showed Obama was a natural born American citizen. Assuming this is true, the black Luo tribesman can not be Obama’s father, since the Luo was alien. The alien Luo adopted Barry; that’s how his name got into the “vital records” – as an adoptive father on the amended birth certificate required in adoptions.
Obama refuses to release his original birth certificate because it would show he’s not black. He’s brown as a berry because his mother was predominantly Polynesian. Probably a native Hawai’ian wahine. There are lots of them in Hawai’i. To keep this secret, Obama will try to corrupt the law by equating natural born citizen with native born. If this fails, he will try to disclose the original birth certificate under seal and subject to a non-disclosure order.
There’s nothing wrong with being half-Hawai’ian, or half-Negro. There is something wrong with claiming you’re something you’re not; it’s called fraud.
There’s something wrong with inciting good men, patriotic military officers, to insubordination and mutiny by concealing proof of your natural born citizenship to create an erroneous impression you were constitutionally ineligible at birth. Among other things, it’s sedition.
There’s something wrong with concealing your naturalization as an Indonesian citizenship when it’s a potentially expatriating act, whether or not you lost U.S. citizenship on the facts.
All these wrongs are high crimes and misdemeanors if found to be so by the United States House of Representatives, even if they have not violated a specific criminal statute.
And there is something wrong with a Congress that fails to impeach the President and his officers for these and many other offenses in a pattern of sedition and crimes against humanity unparalleled in American history. If it were possible, the entire Congress should be removed from office for its institutional crime in failing to hold Obama and his appointees to account. Each and every lawful means of removing members of this shameful and seditiouos Congress should be pursued. Were it possible, the whole Congress should be impeached.
Official investigation is urgently needed, to verify Obama was eligible at birth, disclose evidence of his election fraud, resolve the issue of his loss of U.S. citizenship, ascertain his crimes against the United States and humanity, and determine his true allegiance.
I’d be very interested in knowing exactly why Barack and Michelle Obama both turned in their licenses to practice law. A little transparency might be nice on this issue.
That is something else the Obama’s are “hiding”. You don’t just “give up your licenses”. Something is there, I wish we knew what. With the billions of dollars of our tax money, they are great at “hiding” things.
Obama had his license put on hold when he was elected to the senate. As for his wife, it is my understanding that she suspended her license after she ran into some legal problems of her own concerning insurance fraud.
Why would he do that? Bill Clinton never did. In fact Clinton had to fight to keep his law license and eventually had it revoked for lying under oath in the Lewinsky case. I am a retired nurse who no longer practices…..I would NEVER give up my license. As a professional that is something you never do. I believe BHO lost his license for lying under oath. When he received his license he was asked under oath if he had ever used another name and he answered “no.” That was a lie. He used the name Barry Soetoro AND there is no record that he EVER officially changed it back to BHO after officially being adopted by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro. Everything about Barry is a fraud.
No one in their right mind would give up something that they went to school for. Their studing, their paying the scool for the eduction, although knowing what I know about the Obama’s now I am sure that they paid very little, still to give up license would be ludicrase, unless they were guilt of a crime and to keep it on the quiet side they decided to give them up. One would think that the Obama’s would have been smart enough to stop their damn lie’s, but I guess when Stupid does stupider it just comes out Plainly STUPID. They will get caught, I just have a good feel about the Obama’s, I believe they have stuck their foot in their mouth to many time’s and the pass is gettting ready to catch up to them.
She voluntarily surrendered her license to prevent being charged with malpractice. Extortion was the complaint, I believe. It would make sense, what with being married to the biggest extortionist in the U.S.
Disbarred! Barry lied on his bar application and wasn’t really a lawyer, his exam and everything was bought. Moochelle was involved in some criminal dealings was dealt with prior to being covered up for by the likes of fellow racist criminal weeny ass wipe Holder!
At one time there was a internet response indicating that the both of them were being investigated for perjury and misstatement on the license applications and they decided to avoid the problem by relinquishing their license…..
The Obama machine is out to destroy Sheriff Araipo – the entire Conservative base needs to get behind Sheriff Araipo before the Department of unJustice detroys him. Unfortunately, this entire Administration and Eric Holder (and DoJ) lies are believed by the Leftist constituents so, unless, there is an outcry about all of this, they will find some way to oust Araipo. Let’s not let this good man get trampled on.
Of course, Holder will sue anyone that gets close to the truth. His freedom is also at stake. He knows if the truth comes out, he could go to prison for aiding a criminal.
It is my opinion that Eric Holder is the single most corrupt official to ever hold federal office and he was appointed by Barack Obama. If Obama were not just as filthy, he would force Holder to resign immediately and apologize to the American people for having foisted this miscreant upon us. Holder has had his finger in every dirty pie from the Olahoma City bombing to Fast & Furious and, now, he is using thug tactics in an attempt to make Joe Arpaio back away from an investigation into Obamas eligibility for the office of the presidency. America, welcome to the Chicago way. Every citizen had better think about the fact that, if Obama and his cronies are willing to use gangster tactics against an elected official, how far would they go against an average citizen.
Eric Holder and his corrupt Marxist boss, Obama and all the other lerftist parasites in Washington, INCLUDING most of the Republican party should all be tried for treason. Holder, Obama, Pelosi, Reid,Napolitano and Sibelius, et al in addition to every Obama appointment as deliberately detrimental to the fiscal, social , international and moral health of the country at large. We are not being served in ANY positive manner by ANY of those in Washington in their Elitist and predatory positions of power and we will NOT be until we remove them; ALL of them in the next election by voting out at all levels, every INCUMBENT
and thus sending an plain message a retard could understand, unless of course, they happen to BE one of the INCUMBENTS to be removed. They need to be reminded that in a Constitutional Republic such as ours, those guilty of malfeasance must be replaced and it is within the realm of the constituencies failed to make such choices as GUARANTEED by the Constitution they are forever disdaining or outright ignoring; that authority to govern here, comes from THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED. If they impose ANY further restrictions on the electorate, we have an obligation, as citizens, to REMOVE them, by the process in accordance with the Constitution primarily but failing that option being left to us, by whatever means and methods remain.PERIOD! The president has too many times exceeded his authority, the congress has failed to act as a check on his usurpation of powers he DOES NOT POSSESS, And it is time to remove all of the parasites in Washington for the health of the body politic and the preservation of the document guaranteeing our way of life, our liberties and the future of our progeny as free citizens, not subjects of the UN or any OTHER foreign body. There are 23.6 million of us who took and honored the oath to defend and uphold the constitution and we have fought against enemies both foreign and domestic BEFORE; and we have the honorable discharges to prove it as few in Congress and None currently in the White House have. We took and lived up to the oath to defend and uphold in the past; and, if we deem it necessary, WE WILL AGAIN!
Nikita
I took the oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC when I was drafted into the service of my country. The oath is for life, not to be taken lightly nor abandoned when our nation is under attack form the enemy within, who cast their oath aside as just so much useless baggage! It’s treason on a monumental scale and we must unite and bring the full power of the oath givers to bare. I believe there is closer to between 40 and 50 million of us and we, not the government, own America. In the very language of the Constitution, the tenth amendment clearly defines the limits of the central government and confers upon the states supremacy over the central government in the affairs of the people residing within the state. In the issue with Sheriff Joe, the state trumps the federal government, especially when the federal government fails to protect the nation from an ongoing act of war on our sovereign border. The criminal failure of a complicit federal government to uphold legislation in place demanding action to stem the tide of illegal immigrants. To deport of all of these felons currently residing in our nation illegally and stealing goods and services form tax paying citizens, is not a matter of choice but of law! Instead we, the legitimate citizens are viewed as terrorists in our own country, while 35 identified Islamic terrorist training camps throughout America are given a pass to operate within our borders, while the Feds harass the very elected state officials fighting to uphold the law. If your here illegally (read my lips) you have NO constitutional rights whatsoever, NONE! Any Judge that thinks otherwise must be arrested immediately and tried for treason!! Holder and his boss, among others are traitors.
Thomas Paine led the clarion call with his famous speech in 1776, the following is an excerpt that bridges time and is a call to arms for all patriots who love this once great nation:
December 23, 1776
THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.
Thank both of you for your service. Being a member of a Constitutional Militia, I took the same oath you both did and it means the same to me as it does to you. what is troubling about all this is that every elected official takes an oath to defend the Constitution, yet far too many ignore it and do whatever they think will get them re-elected regardless of whether it complies with the Constitution or not. That alone is treason in my mind though with the “foxes” guarding the roost, how can we ever get justice?
Michael11, totally agree withall you’ve said, and the fact that Holder is sueing about the “rights” of ILLEGAL ALIENS” being violated (???) Someone want to explain to me how these folks illegally entered the U.S, and now have rights? I’m a retired Army Helicopter Pilot, 2 combat tours in Vietnam and did not ever imagine I’d have to again defend my country and fellow Americans on our soil against the likes of Holder, Obama, the coming of Kagen and Sotomyer, and a few others hell-bent on destroying this country, not on my watch! I’ve already given my represntatives in VA a preliminary dose, to be followed by a lot more, and more concentrated “activitism” politically, might even run for office.
if we sit around and talk long enough it will be too late to save our nation
Correct, and here is one concrete action we all should take.
File your own criminal complaint against Obama charging him with crimes against the Constitution which includes treason. Here is how:
http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/a-sample-letter…
A New Hampshire has filed his complaint as did I and a growing number of Patriots. Will the readers here join us, or just continue to gripe and do nothing? I pray it is the former.
What do I think the reporter asks? I think Barrack Obama IS A LYING, FRAUDULENT, FORGING, TREASONIST, MUSLIM SCUM BAG AND SHOULD BE THROWN OUT OF THIS COUNTRY, ALONG WITH ERIC HOLDER HIS ACCOMPLIST
Most of the comments that i have read are right on,and many of the thoughts have a lot of creedence,now in the case of the Sheriff i,m very concerned for his safety and welfare,because of the character of the mobster in the WH.I would not put anything past holder or obama when it comes to finding ways of dealing with situations in un- ethical ways since breaking the law is how things are now done.To Sherif Joe-Watch your back,and Thank you for doing the right thing,………..Joe in Colorado.
Unless Arpaio has managed to gain access to Obama’s DNA and original birth certificate (not the amended birth certificate trotted out by Obama on 27 April 2011 on the false pretense it was the original) or has found convincing proof of Indonesian naturalization, a potentially expatriating act, I don’t expect much.
“…for the devil is come down to you, having great wrath, because he knoweth he hath but a short time.” -Revelation 12: 12
Watch your back, Sheriff, he now has NDAA authority to go after you, and cares not a whit for the “flawed” Constitution.
What a shock. Obama sicced his boy on the Sheriff. Big deal. Eric Holder wouldn’t know wrongdoing if it crawled up his ass. This is just the administration baring its teeth. Problem is, Holder has nothing to bite on to.
Just one more note and then I’ll shutup! Here’s a quote from a famous American patriot:
“The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.” – Patrick Henry
We must enlighten the American voting public with the true facts about Obama and the secret dealing that go on in our nations Capitol!
Put your money where your mouth is and support Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse at the website below!
http://www.mcsoccp.org/joomla/
Unfortunately, the good Sheriff Arpaio lacks the power to uncover the facts.
He can’t produce Obama’s original birth certificate.
He can’t produce Obama’s DNA or an analysis of it..
He can’t produce conclusive evidence of Obama’s Indonesian citizenship, although he was probably became an Indonesian citizen by operation of law on the basis of known facts (child of the wife of Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen).
He can’t produce evidence that Obama acquired Indonesian citizenship voluntarily with the intent of relinquishing U.S. citizenship.
I know of no reason to expect great things of the good Sheriff Arpaio’s efforts.
Perhaps your investigations will produce better evidence. Please keep us informed of your progress.
Ern, Thanks for your message and your interest,
I have no better evidence.
My point is that there is insufficient competent evidence in the public domain to determine whether Obama is eligible or not, and incidentally to ascertain his current citizenship or citizenships, his obstruction of justice by concealment of his Indonesian citizenship, and his true allegiance, without invoking public investigative authority at a higher level than sheriff.
Confirming Obama’s eligibility requires all of Obama’s Hawai’ian “vital records” viewed by Dr. Fukino and referred to in her statement of 27 July 2009. Analysis of his DNA is necessary to disprove the “birth certificate” proffered by Obama on 27 April 2011. DNA analysis will also help confirm Obama’s actual birth parents as shown on his real, original birth certificate, which remains undisclosed. I have seen no indication of Sheriff Arpaio’s efforts to get this most fundamental evidence, or to request the help of agencies with the power to obtain it.
Once Obama’s eligibility at birth is established to the satisfaction of all (at the expense of disclosing that Barry’s not black) official inquiry by a more powerful office than sheriff is necessary to determine whether Obama lost his American citizenship and his constitutional eligibility by voluntarily becoming a naturalized citizen of Indonesia with the intention of relinquishing his U.S. citizenship.
I see no indication the good Sheriff Arpaio’s office, for all its earnestness and diligence, has identified the issues, much less identified the evidence needed to resolve the issues, much less persuaded an office capable of eliciting that evidence to do so. Hence the open questions remain open and seem likely to remain so after Sheriff Arpaio’s report.
One fundamental issue, Obama’s status at birth, can be speedily resolved by a public investigative authority with the ability to subpoena his vital records and DNA, or to force him to release it in judicial discovery by sanctions for not complying with discovery. The sanctions for not complying would be to have Obama’s pleadings stricken and entry of judgment for plaintiff, an order denying placement on the ballot.
The other fundamental issue, Obama’s loss of U.S. citizenship, requires extensive international investigation and analysis, even by a powerful investigative authority such as Congress. This is the key issue of Obama’s constitutional eligibility, and warrants the great expense of the massive, exhaustive investigation required for its reasonable and just resolution. It tends to be put off by birthers deluded by the possibility of a “quick fix” at Obama’s birth. I will be glad to discuss with Sheriff Arpaio and his posse what investigation can be made privately of the hypothesis that Obama became a naturalized citizen of Indonesia and conspired with the Indonesian government to cover it up. I spent more than ten years practicing international law the world o’er (though never on a matter quite this challenging). But private investigation would be primarily for the purpose of persuading official investigative agencies to find evidence on whether Obama voluntarily became naturalized, with the intention of relinquishing U.S. citizenship.
It requires something on the order of a legislative or congressional investigating committee or a grand jury – investigating, for example, Obama’s fraud in 2008 by pretending to be half Negro by claiming his adoptive parents as his birth parents and making racist appeals in his official campaign autobiography – just to verify that Obama was eligible at birth. Such an authority is all the more essential to determine whether Obama lost his U.S. citizenship thereafter (call it the “Afterbirther Commission”) and even then the investigation is liable to take many months.
In an attempt to save the Georgia Office of State Administrative Hearings from deciding a false issue – whether native birth is natural born – on the basis of insufficient facts, I’ve drafted the following suggestions to that Court. There is a possibility that the Court will base eligibility on the adoption certificate proffered by Obama on 27 April 2011, from fear of civil strife if he be found ineligible, with people still under the erroneous impression that he’s black. Official investigation should start with discovery of all of Obama’s vital records, including his original birth certificate, which exposes the hoax that he is the son of a black Luo tribesman.
I’m in the process of revising the suggestions (and behind schedule) but the basic analysis should be useful to any rational and objective investigator. The draft follows (remember, it’s the first one, only partially revised, like legislation or sausage in the making):
[DRAFT]
OFFICE OF STATE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS
STATE OF GEORGIA
DAVID F. WELDEN, :
:
Plaintiff, : Docket Number: OSAH-SECSTATE-CE-
: 1215137-60-MALIHI
v. :
: Counsel for Plaintiff: Van R. Irion
BARACK OBAMA, :
: Counsel for Defendant: Michael Jablonski
Defendant. :
________________________
Application and Suggestions of Amicus Curiae
Comes now Albert W. L. Moore, Jr., of the Missouri and United States Supreme Court bars and others, and prays that the Court, in the interests of upholding the Constitution, justice and judicial economy and efficiency, waive the pesky formal requirements for appearance as amicus curiae and take his suggestions in this case and those consolidated with it, made on information and belief, as follows:
GENERAL
1. Court and counsel are to be commended for reaching the merits of the constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama (“Obama”). However, the Court risks decision on incomplete facts posing a false issue regarding Obama’s eligibility at birth. Plaintiffs have been tricked by Obama into erroneously assuming that Obama’s father was an alien, without obtaining discovery of Obama’s original birth certificate showing his actual birth parents. This wastes the Court’s time on a false issue. The Court can and should take over and conduct thorough discovery to avoid confusion and a false precedent in disregard of the real issue, which is Obama’s possible loss of American citizenship from his naturalization as a citizen of Indonesia, a potentially expatriating event.
2. This Court can quickly verify Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility as a natural born United States citizen, on the day of his birth, by taking over discovery and subpoenaing Obama’s DNA and all of his Hawai’ian vital records, probably consisting of an original birth certificate showing his actual birth parents and his amended birth certificate showing adoptive parents Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama, an alien Luo tribesman. Analysis of Obama’s DNA will prove that it is biologically impossible for him to be the son of a Negro father and a Caucasian mother, which conclusively disproves the “birth certificate” (actually an adoption certificate) proffered by Obama on 27 April 2011. Obama’s real, original birth certificate will show two American citizens, genetically consistent with Obama, as his birth parents, thus confirming the statement of Dr. Chiyome Leinaala Fukino on 27 July 2009, set out in full in the discussion below. Obama does not disclose his original birth certificate partly because it proves that he is not half Negro, but also to evade consideration of the real eligibility issue, his possible loss of American citizenship in acquiring Indonesian citizenship.
3. The Court should conduct thorough discovery of Obama’s Indonesian citizenship and its effect on his American citizenship. Investigation of Obama’s American citizenship is long overdue. It will take a long time, and must be started soon to complete in time to inform the Democratic Party’s rank and file before its nominating convention, and before the general election in November 2012.
4. The Court should appoint an officer in the nature of a special master, perhaps a retired judge, to spend full time conducting discovery to verify by original documents and genetic analysis Obama’s eligibility at birth, and to verify his Indonesian citizenship and its effect, if any, on his American citizenship.
5. It appears that Obama has spun an elaborate scheme to be elected to the Office of President by pretending to be the son of the alien black man who adopted him. In furtherance of this scheme, he used a contrived controversy over his birth to distract attention from the question of whether he lost his American citizenship by voluntarily becoming a naturalized citizen of Indonesia with the intent of relinquishing American citizenship. This has been done with the able assistance of many dishonest lawyers, another subject that should concern the Court and attract its attention. Confirmation that Obama retained his American citizenship (which is conceivable, though he might have long ago foresworn any allegiance he might have had to the United States) requires extensive official investigation. If such investigation is not initiated very soon and prosecuted expeditiously, election officials and the Court will find themselves caught up short. Bush, et al. v. Gore et al., 531 U.S. 98, 108 (2000): “The press of time does not diminish the constitutional concern. A desire for speed is not a general excuse for ignoring equal protection guarantees.”
OBAMA A NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN AT BIRTH
6. “Birthers”, those who believe Obama was constitutionally ineligible at birth, have often lost objectivity in analyzing the facts. In all fairness, this is in part due to the paucity of known facts on the Obama matter. Consequently, they have blundered into profound error and capricious speculation, much of which has been counterproductive. Obama has played them as a toreador plays a bull – shaking a distraction off to the side, which the poor dumb beast charges. In this case, Plaintiff is tantalized by the prospect of a “quick fix”, a purported alien father to Obama. The problem is, the alien is not his father. He adopted him. This conjecture is hardly in a league with Poincare’s, which required many years, geniuses and computer science to solve. The Court can prove or disprove this conjecture by subpoenaing Obama’s vital records and DNA. However, there are very strong clues pointing to Obama’s Hawai’ian adoption, starting with the 27 July 2009 statement by Dr. Chiyome Leinaala Fukino, then the Director of Hawai’i’s Department of Health and custodian of vital records, which follows in its entirety:
I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.
Dr. Fukino refers to “vital records”. As Obama was still alive, there would not be a death certificate, but there must be a vital record in addition to his original birth certificate. How would such an additional vital record come to be? Come, let us learn and reason together.
7. When a child is born in Hawai’i, a contemporaneous record of birth is made, showing actual birth parents. This is retained to protect against violation of the rule against consanguinity. Dr. Fukino was informed by the original birth certificate when she stated that Obama was “a natural-born American citizen”.
8. When the child is adopted, as by hypothesis Obama was at birth, an amended birth certificate is created, showing adoptive parents. Obama’s amended birth certificate was the basis for the abstract titled “CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH”, the proof of birth typically used, in part to conceal the fact of an adoption – even from the adoptee. On 27 April 2011, Obama presented a photograph of his amended birth certificate on, cropped or masked to delete the word “AMENDED”, probably typed above the printed title of the long form “CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH”.
9. Dr. Fukino had to contend with the confidentiality of adoptions when making her statement of 27 July 2009 above. But she could not avoid giving away the fact of an adoption, by claiming the “vital records” showed that Obama was “a natural-born American citizen”. Barack Hussein Obama the black Luo tribesman could not be Obama’s birth father if Obama was a natural born American citizen, because the Luo tribesman was an alien. Dr. Fukino was relying on the original birth certificate component of the “vital records” to which she referred.
10. I assume that Dr. Fukino made her finding on the basis of an original birth certificate showing two U.S. citizen birth parents, but the Court’s subpoena of the “vital records” referred to by Dr. Fukino is required for a sound judicial determination of Obama’s eligibility at birth. If the Court finds all the relevant facts, it need not decide whether to lay out a false precedent, confirming eligibility on a frivolous argument based on false facts that include an alien father who was not Obama’s, or denying eligibility on the false representation of both parties that Obama had an alien father. Either way, appeals would be in order, wasting the time of this and other courts, and Obama would likely try to use his original birth certificate to qualify for the ballot, submitted under seal and an order not to disclose, so that the electorate would not know that he only pretended to be half Negro. The Court can foreclose all this by subpoenaing all of Obama’s vital records from Hawai’i’s Health Department Director. Adoption confidentiality must yield to the interests of the state in determining Obama’s eligibility and the true basis for it. It must not be used to perpetrate election fraud or fraud on the Court.
11. Other clues pop up from time to time indicating that Obama’s original birth certificate remains undisclosed. Early in 2011, a character named Tim Adams, who had sworn that there was no long form birth certificate for Obama, broadcast a suggestion that Obama release his long form birth certificate, “if he has one”, even if it did not “go along with” Obama’s official autobiography. Adams offered the lame excuse that Obama was “fibbing” in his autobiography, standard operating procedure with politicians, per Mr. Adams. It seemed the cat was out of the bag, or was feared to be, and Adams was doing damage control. But the “birth certificate” released on 27 April 2011 was entirely consistent with the fraudulent autobiography; hence there must be another, the original, still undisclosed.
12. Dr. Fukino, in an interview with Michael Isikoff, described the original birth certificate as half typed and half handwritten. The document released by Obama on 27 April 2011 was entirely typed. This is another significant clue that the original birth certificate, and the “birth certificate” released on 27 April 2011, are two different documents, and that Dr. Fukino based her conclusion that Obama was a natural born American citizen on the original, not the adoption certificate that Obama falsely claimed on 27 April 2011 to be the original birth certificate.
13. Obama conceals his original birth certificate identifying his actual birth parents because neither was Negro, not because it disproves his constitutional eligibility. The original would confirm his eligibility at birth. He fraudulently claims his adoptive parents as birth parents so that he can make racist appeals for votes while denigrating critics and opponents as racists.
14. Hence when Plaintiff says on page 1 of his Opposition to Defendant’s Motion to Dismiss, “The only fact relevant to this case is the fact that the Defendant’s father was not a U.S. citizen”, he could not be more mistaken. He speaks in ignorance of Obama’s original birth certificate, showing actual parents, which has not been disclosed. If the Court will subpoena it, the Court will find that Obama was a natural born American citizen at the time of his birth. (And it will find other significant information not directly pertaining to constitutional eligibility.)
OBAMA’S POSSIBLE LOSS OF AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP
15. The Court should then move on to the real issue of Obama’s constitutional eligibility, his possible loss of American citizenship. The status of natural born American citizen can be acquired only at birth. But it can be lost thereafter, by loss of American citizenship altogether. The term “natural born U.S. citizen” subsumes the term “citizen”. Obama can not be a natural born U.S. citizen if he is not a U.S. citizen at all, even if he was a natural born U.S. citizen on the day of his birth. If in fact Obama relinquished his American citizenship, he became constitutionally ineligible for all time, and never became President.
16. The State Department has noted that naturalization as a foreign citizen is a potentially expatriating act, as is conviction for treason:
POTENTIALLY EXPATRIATING ACTS
Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. citizens are subject to loss of citizenship if they perform certain specified acts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Briefly stated, these acts include:
1. obtaining naturalization in a foreign state [my italics] (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA);
2. taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration to a foreign state or its political subdivisions (Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA);
3. entering or serving in the armed forces of a foreign state engaged in hostilities against the U.S. or serving as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer in the armed forces of a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (3) INA);
4. accepting employment with a foreign government if (a) one
has the nationality of that foreign state or (b) an oath or declaration of allegiance is required in accepting the position (Sec. 349 (a) (4) INA);
5. formally renouncing U.S. citizenship before a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer outside the United States (Sec. 349 (a) (5) INA);
6. formally renouncing U.S. citizenship within the U.S. (but only under strict, narrow statutory conditions) (Sec. 349 (a) (6) INA);
7. conviction for an act of treason (Sec. 349 (a) (7) INA).
ADMINISTRATIVE STANDARD OF EVIDENCE
As already noted, the actions listed above can cause loss of U.S. citizenship only if performed voluntarily and with the intention of relinquishing U.S. citizenship. The Department has a uniform administrative standard of evidence based on the premise that U.S.
citizens intend to retain United States citizenship when they obtain naturalization in a foreign state, subscribe to a declaration of allegiance to a foreign state, serve in the armed forces of a foreign state not engaged in hostilities with the United States, or accept non-policy level employment with a foreign government.
See http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizensh….
17. Obama’s volition and intent are factual issues that require extensive evidence-taking, legal and factual analysis, and argument. Obama seems to believe (perhaps wrongly) that the issue would be resolved in favor of his relinquishment of U.S. citizenship, for he has almost certainly made criminal and seditious bargains with, among others, the government of Indonesia to conceal evidence of his Indonesian citizenship.
CONCLUSION
18. Determination of Obama’s current citizenship or citizenships does not lend itself to the birthers’ dream of a quick fix at his birth. Exhaustive official investigation is essential to resolve the issue of his possible loss of American citizenship. A congressional or legislative investigating committee, or a prosecutor, would have the luxury of finding the facts inconclusive. A court, it is suggested, has an obligation to decide one way or the other, on such evidence as can be found and inferences therefrom. This will require exhaustive investigation, much of it international. It would seem appropriate for the Court to appoint an officer in the nature of a special master, perhaps a retired judge, to take evidence on a full-time basis. I have over a decade of international legal experience worldwide, including Indonesia. As Nick Nolte has said in a different context, “It’s easier to go there if you’ve been there before.” I would be willing to help the special master for expenses only, and would plan to form a team that would tentatively include, if they be willing, Philip J. Berg, Esq., an attorney who has worked with Indonesian counsel on Indonesian citizenship, Tom Schweich, Missouri’s State Auditor, who has audited accounts in Afghanistan, Kris Kobach, Secretary of State for Kansas, an expert on the law of U.S. citizenship, and Wayne Madsen, who has reported on Stanley Ann Dunham’s activities in Indonesia. I would play first violin to the Court’s special master as conductor.
19. For decades the United States Supreme Court held itself above the fray with regard to congressional reapportionment, refusing to enter that “political thicket”. Finally, it concluded that the political process could not cure itself, and took on the matter. Similarly in this case, officials such as congressmen have refused to inquire into the facts, for fear of being regarded as racist, even though actual inquiry would reveal that the basis of Obama’s racist appeal was a hoax. Hence once again the courts are called upon to find the facts and enforce the law, the political process having failed.
20. The adversary system, for all its virtues and general effectiveness in grinding slowly but finely to find the truth, has its limits. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. Here both sides have their reasons for proceeding on the basis of false facts. Plaintiff thinks he can win at the starting gate on the true definition of natural born citizen as used in Article II Section 1 of the Constitution. Defendant thinks he can prevail on a false and frivolous definition of natural born American citizen as used in Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution and a birth certificate that’s a forgery in the sense that it’s not what it purports to be: Obama’s original birth certificate. If so, this would not be the first time the law has been changed by reason of specious and frivolous argument aided by judicial ignorance of the facts. Moreover, the Court might fear civil strife resulting from a finding of ineligibility on the basis of the “birth certificate” proffered on 27 April 2011. And further, if Defendant does not prevail on the incomplete and misleading facts, then Defendant counts on his ability to disclose his hole card, his true original birth certificate showing two U.S. citizen parents, and to submit it under seal safeguarded by a non-disclosure order, so that the electorate will remain ignorant of his true racial heritage. This after wasting the time of this Court and others in verifying Obama’s constitutional eligibility at birth, which could have been swiftly confirmed by Defendant’s full disclosure of vital records and DNA, and in total disregard of the real eligibility issue, the possible, even probable, loss of Obama’s American citizenship by naturalization as an Indonesian citizen.
PRAYER
WHEREFORE, Albert W. L. Moore, Jr., representing no party in this case or any other before this honorable Court, and wishing only to be the Court’s true friend in obeying his solemn oath as a lawyer to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America, prays the Court read and heed his suggestions to cut to the heart of the Obama matter by taking charge of discovery and uncovering the relevant and material facts required to effect a just and true resolution of open questions regarding Obama’s eligibility to the Office of President, and prays further that esteemed adversary counsel adopt these suggestions and co-operate, with all diligence, probity and candor, to assist the Court.
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
On this ___ day of January 2012, I sent emails of this application and suggestions to the following adversary counsel (inimici curiae?):
Orly Taitz, orly.taitz@gmail.com
Van R. Irion, van@libertylegalfoundation.com
J. Mark Hatfield, mhatfield@wayxcable.com
Michael Jablonski, michael.jablonski@comcast.net
and another applicant for amicus curiae, Paul Andrew Mitchell, supremelawfirm@gmail.com.
____________________________________
Albert W. L. Moore, Jr.
Missouri Bar No. 18921
Central Professional Building, Suite 114
221 West Lexington, Suite 114
Independence, Missouri 64050-3719
816.461.0993
Telefacsimile: 816.461.3231
eingriff@gmail.com
Applicant for Amicus Curiae
Skeptics’ inadequate analyses of the Obama matter have delayed and continue to delay the just determination of Obama’s eligibility, citizenship, probable obstruction of justice, and true allegiance (probably to the Comintern). I fear that Sheriff Arpaio’s posse might be chasing down the same blind alleys, to the country’s grave detriment. I’ve been intending to call Sheriff Arpaio’s office. Should I? Se habla ingles alli? Will I be put on hold to listen to background music: “Get back! Get back! Get back to where you once belonged!”?
Your approach to uncover the truth in this egregious violation of the office of CNC is an interesting twist to expose the real identity of the usurper. I feel it is incumbent upon you to contact Sheriff Arpaio to share your findings with his cold case posse and hopefully bring all of the players in the travesty upon the same stage, the court in question. For the sake of the nation we must unmask this anti-American troll once and for all. Your approach is unique and appears to be well thought out. I would hope collectively the court would have no choice but to issue the requisite subpoenas to expose the truth to the light of day.
We must wrest the nation from an inglorious end and begin what our founders implored us to do in times such as these, as spelled out in the Declaration of Independence!
Many thanks to combatvet for his comment.
He shows a rare perception.
I’ll try to contact Sheriff Arpaio, to find out whether he will chat with me, after I finish revising the draft suggestions, serve and file them, and submit them to the Court, with some trepidation. Hope Judge Malihi or his law clerk will at least read them. That would be some progress. But I would hope further that they will be added to the Court’s file in the event of an appeal.
This “interesting twist” should interest combatvet in another way. If Dr. Fukino and eingriff are right, that Obama’s original birth certificate shows Obama was a natural born U.S. citizen at birth, and eingriff’s suspicions are confirmed that both of Obama’s birth parents were U.S. citizens and neither Negro, and that Obama has withheld the original because it shows he has no birth parent of the Negro persuasion, then what are the implications for U.S. military personnel moved to disobey orders because they were uncertain they came from duly constituted authority? Obama by omission tricked LTC Lakin into believing he was not a natural born citizen, by refusing to disclose his original birth certificate. Hence Obama misrepresented he was not eligible by refusing to disclose a document that would have confirmed his eligibility at birth, for the meretricious political reason that it would have revealed also that he had no Negro parent. By misrepresentation through omission, Obama tricked LTC Lakin into insubordination, then court-martialed him for it, and prevented the court martial from subpoenaing the original birth certificate. This conduct is one of the strongest of grounds, among many, to impeach Obama. And a real President should pardon Lakin. The investigation of him can be part of the impeachment hearings. If the congressional RINOs ever find the guts to impeach. Whether or not investigators conclude Obama is ineligible or impeachment results in removal, the facts of the investigation, starting with Obama’s DNA and original birth certificate and continuing through the effect of his Indonesian citizenship on his American citizenship, the facts elicited by the investigation will be worth the cost and effort.
Ern, Thanks for your message and your interest,
I have no better evidence.
I think I have much better analysis. It’s spelled out in detail in draft amicus curiae suggestions included in a reply to you, which is blocked pending “moderation”. So I’m excising a lot of my deathless prose to make a much shorter reply.
My point is that there is insufficient competent evidence in the public domain to determine whether Obama is eligible or not, and incidentally to ascertain his current citizenship or citizenships, his obstruction of justice by concealment of his Indonesian citizenship, and his true allegiance, without invoking public investigative authority at a higher level than sheriff.
Confirming Obama’s eligibility requires all of Obama’s Hawai’ian “vital records” viewed by Dr. Fukino and referred to in her statement of 27 July 2009. Analysis of his DNA is necessary to disprove the “birth certificate” proffered by Obama on 27 April 2011. DNA analysis will also help confirm Obama’s actual birth parents as shown on his real, original birth certificate, which remains undisclosed. I have seen no indication of Sheriff Arpaio’s efforts to get this most fundamental evidence, or to request the help of agencies with the power to obtain it.
Once Obama’s eligibility at birth is established to the satisfaction of all (at the expense of disclosing that Barry’s not black) official inquiry by a more powerful office than sheriff is necessary to determine whether Obama lost his American citizenship and his constitutional eligibility by voluntarily becoming a naturalized citizen of Indonesia with the intention of relinquishing his U.S. citizenship.
I see no indication the good Sheriff Arpaio’s office, for all its earnestness and diligence, has identified the issues, much less identified the evidence needed to resolve the issues, much less persuaded an office capable of eliciting that evidence to do so. Hence the open questions remain open and seem likely to remain so after Sheriff Arpaio’s report.
One fundamental issue, Obama’s status at birth, can be speedily resolved by a public investigative authority with the ability to subpoena his vital records and DNA, or to force him to release it in judicial discovery by sanctions for not complying with discovery. The sanctions for not complying would be to have Obama’s pleadings stricken and entry of judgment for plaintiff, an order denying placement on the ballot.
The other fundamental issue, Obama’s loss of U.S. citizenship, requires extensive international investigation and analysis, even by a powerful investigative authority such as Congress. This is the key issue of Obama’s constitutional eligibility, and warrants the great expense of the massive, exhaustive investigation required for its reasonable and just resolution. It tends to be put off by birthers deluded by the possibility of a “quick fix” at Obama’s birth. I will be glad to discuss with Sheriff Arpaio and his posse what investigation can be made privately of the hypothesis that Obama became a naturalized citizen of Indonesia and conspired with the Indonesian government to cover it up. I spent more than ten years practicing international law the world o’er (though never on a matter quite this challenging). But private investigation would be primarily for the purpose of persuading official investigative agencies to find evidence on whether Obama voluntarily became naturalized, with the intention of relinquishing U.S. citizenship.
It requires something on the order of a legislative or congressional investigating committee or a grand jury – investigating, for example, Obama’s fraud in 2008 by pretending to be half Negro by claiming his adoptive parents as his birth parents and making racist appeals in his official campaign autobiography – just to verify that Obama was eligible at birth. Such an authority is all the more essential to determine whether Obama lost his U.S. citizenship thereafter (call it the “Afterbirther Commission”) and even then the investigation is liable to take many months.
In an attempt to save the Georgia Office of State Administrative Hearings from deciding a false issue – whether native birth is natural born – on the basis of insufficient facts, I’ve drafted the following suggestions to that Court. There is a possibility that the Court will base eligibility on the adoption certificate proffered by Obama on 27 April 2011, from fear of civil strife if he be found ineligible, with people still under the erroneous impression that he’s black. Official investigation should start with discovery of all of Obama’s vital records, including his original birth certificate, which exposes the hoax that he is the son of a black Luo tribesman. This draft submission has been excised from this comment.
Skeptics’ inadequate analyses of the Obama matter have delayed and continue to delay the just determination of Obama’s eligibility, citizenship, probable obstruction of justice, and true allegiance (probably to the Comintern). I fear that Sheriff Arpaio’s posse might be chasing down the same blind alleys, to the country’s grave detriment. I’ve been intending to call Sheriff Arpaio’s office. Should I? Se habla ingles alli? Will I be put on hold to listen to background music: “Get back! Get back! Get back to where you once belonged!”?
The Sheriff is doing something that nettles Obama, else he wouldn’t have loosed his boy Holder on Arpaio. I don’t presume to know what it is, but Obama would ignore it as he has every other allegation if there weren’t any teeth to this investigation.
I was wondering why obama kept holder around, he does all of obama’s dirty work, that way obama would not have to appear nervious in front of his media boys, make’s sense. thank’s for the nugget.
You’re welcome michael11!
I firmly believe the protestations of the homo in chief are in and of itself an admission of guilt! Sicking his racist anti-American rabies infested attack dogs upon Sheriff Joe, clearly shows he has something to hide, hmm………like sealing all of his records upon fraudulently occupying the oval office. Those who seek to hide the truth, self-convict!
It was always my understanding that NO man was above the law in the U.S., including the president (or someone pretending to be the president). His birth and academic information, etc. are public records that carry no national security implications, so why are these documents sealed and/or otherwise withheld from the public? There’s nothing transparent about this fraud of a man except his extortion tactics and his bullying of others. I don’t blame Obama for being elected, though. I blame the American people who, for whatever reason, voted for him. And I feel sorry for those of us who knew better.
Obama is not easily “nettled”, though he might want you to think so, and throw out an announcement of pending lawsuit without intending to file in fact, as a disinformation exercise, as well as a possible spoiler attack.
Sheriff Arpaio was smart to demand evidence. This could smoke out a disinformation exercise. It will be interesting to see whether Holder responds. He might have nothing, and just planted the story as disinformation. Unfortunately, part of the disinformation is that Obama’s worried about the Arpaio investigation when he’s confident that Arpaio is charging a distraction that Obama has put out. It’s like the “slips” by Barry and Michelle that seemed to confirm the Kenyan birth myth distraction. Obama knew the Kenyan birth could never be proved, because it never happened; it was a lie promulgated half a century ago to cover Stanley Ann’s absence from the island to conceal that she was not pregnant, when she was planning to pretend to be the mother of Barry, the b – child out of wedlock – d of her father. Even before his birth, Obama’s life was a tissue of lies.
At every turn, the Obama cabal looks like a Comintern operation.
If Congress does not investigate Obama himself, in the most exquisite detail, and shine the light of day on him, he will steal another election, and fix a totalitarian dictatorship on the United States.
There is no indication beyond blind faith that Sheriff Arpaio’s investigation will help us prevent that.
Just my two cents but I believe it’s very important moving forward for you to contact Sheriff Arpaio’s office and no need to speak Spanish, this is America. The greater the number of approaches, the greater the chance to corner the rat. Kind of like in combat. You identify the enemy and secure all routes of retreat with overwhelming forces, resistance then becomes futile. There such an enormous volume of evidence of treasonous deeds by this sub-human plant, there is absolutely no wiggle room once he’s cornered. Even his girlfriend Holder would be in full retreat! His entire life is a total fabrication. His Connecticut re-issued social security number, his falsified selective service registration, fraudulent passport, perjury on bar application, though I have doubts he ever went to Harvard Law. You have to have grades and money to go the mecca for Communist thought.
You wrote about the Col. Lakin case, an absolute kangaroo court against a decorated war hero, following the letter of the UCMJ. Other military officers and noncoms have questioned his eligibility. Sending troops into harms way with full knowledge that he is not the CNC, is a hanging offense for all knowledgeable parties involved. Injury and loss of life to those troops is a capital offense. The UCMJ clearly states you must refuse an order you deem illegal on justifiable grounds. If you are brought to court marshal, you have a right to counsel, witnesses and discovery. Lakin was denied all and in doing so the Judge, a criminal co-conspirator, must be tried and sentenced to no less than life for her disgusting violation of the UCMJ.
One other twist that supports unequivocally that Barry Soetoro (his real name) is not the President is the fact that he was never sworn in accordance with the law. Roberts purposely muffed the oath(come on) This supposed brilliant jurist can’t read a simple oath. Barry refused to take the oath with his hand on a bible, so hence to staged screwup. He wanted a Koran. Instead of repeating in front of God and country, as would be required, they relocated to the Map Room behind closed doors and re-administered the oath with no bible. I saw a picture they published immediately after the second oath was given and there was Barry hand in the air in front of Roberts and zero, nada nothing under his left hand but air! NO BIBLE, NO PRESIDENT………period. The excuse they gave was that they couldn’t locate one. WHAT ,,,,,,in DC. I guarantee the unSupreme has plenty!
Your thoughts eingriff?
Thanks for the reminder and encouragement to approach Sheriff Arpaio (as I have other well-intentioned skeptics who need help, in vain). I will try to talk with him.
I’m under no illusion that Obama is easily upset. I am, however, of the opinion that he doesn’t sic his dogs on harmless squirrels, either. Whether there is in fact a lawsuit against Arpaio’s office or merely the threat of one, Obama is sufficiently aware of the nationwide popularity of a Sheriff in one Arizona county. In Obama’s eyes, Arpaio can’t be allowed to stir trouble regarding this eligibility issue that will not go away. And Obama IS concerned by that fact. The expenditure of $2 million to keep his records withheld from the public attest to that. It was no coincidence that he released his last (false) birth certificate on the day a book that was already a NY Times bestseller was made available to the public. Even his advisers admit that Obama is vexed as to why the issue will not resolve itself. While I would suggest that the truth would help, Obama is in too deep to consider something so simple. The fact is that not only is Obama shocked at the number of people who question hiss birth narrative, so are his journalistic allies. CNN disavowed their own poll after 42% of respondents expressed reservations about Obama’s birth and eligibility. If, in fact, Obama isn’t concerned about the traction this issue is gaining, perhaps he should take a look at what a judge in Georgia has ordered. Obama has to prove his constitutional eligibility in that state to appear on ANY ballot, primary or otherwise. The judge forewarned his attorneys that he will not allow for shenanigans, threatening them with contempt (and jail time) should they take his ruling lightly. The attorneys are due in court on January 26th to present compelling evidence of Obama’s constitutional eligibility, and falsified birth certificates won’t count.
As to whether Obama is the president of the U.S., whether we like it or not he is the de facto president. His status as de jure president is in question, and has been since his election. Unfortunately, that question will not be answered until long after he has left the Oval Office, be it in disgrace this November or in triumph in January 2017. Personally, I believe that his time is up. Even with 95% of the mainstream media backing him to the hilt, and even with a perfect storm of anti-Republican sentiment combined with voters afflicted with White guilt, Obama only managed to win the election by 7% of the vote. Any other candidate with the built-in advantages Obama was handed would have won by double digit percentage points. I’m willing to bet that the 5 million voters necessary to change the outcome in 2012 will not side with Obama this time around, and Republicans have shown (as in 2010) that they are far more apt to hit the ballot boxes for this presidential election. As always, Independents are the key, and my circle of Independent friends have no inclination whatsoever to give Obama another 4 years to continue screwing up the economy, alienate our allies, and ingratiate the U.S. to our adversaries, the UN inclusive among that group..
And, just once, I’d like for Obama to give a speech that merits the near unanimous acclaim among journalists lauding him as a “brilliant” speaker. Extemporaneously, he leaves much to be desired. His 18 minute “answer” to a town hall question in which he never actually answered the woman was a classic failure to communicate. His repeated failure to pronounce “corpsman” points to his lack of preparation, at the very least (and I’m being generous here. I could say that he failed to show a command of the English language). He regularly stumbles over phrases, especially when his teleprompters go on the fritz. If George Bush was a mediocre speaker, at best, he has company in the person of Barry Soetero.
Bill whittle on Obama eligibility:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Og0Mq9Y1PM
Mr. Bill, there is nothing new under the sun, if it’s new, it has been thought of before.In saying that, our President has to many strikes against him, plus he has held way to many damn names, will take this name Harrison J. Burnell, the last name, I ame not sure how to spell, but I believed he used that name a few times. I just don’t know why our President would have to use so many name’s, unless of course he is hiding some thing. I just don’t trust this guy, and I don’t know how his wife could trust him. Heck, if he has lied about so many things, I would not doubt that he has many mistress around different states he has visited, he could get away with it, and Michelle would not even find out. He hides everything else, why not other ladies in diffrent places in the world that Michelle has never gone to, he has that kind of personality. That’s his life anyway, but his lies to us, well that is our problem and we really need to know who he is.
Volumes can be written about the imposter Barry Sotoroe Aka: Barcock Hussein Ovomit and whatever else he wishes to go by at the time for convenience sake,but there are many truth,s about the SOB. He and holder are responsible for fast and furious and for everyone who was murdered with the weapons they authorized to go across the border.Benghazi gate started in June 14,2012 when islamist blew a hole in the embassy wall,a call for additional security was made then,obuma being the psycho that he is refused to give them help,his belief was that everything was getting better in that region(because he was involved) and had given a billion tax dollars to the Syrians.Everything was not okay,on Sept 11,2012 4 Americans died at the hands of the usurper fraud president,does he give a damn “No” he,s to much of a coward and has a hatred for our forefathers and America,his God is Allah,he sets up Ms. Rice to get on T.V. to tell us that some video was causing the uproar in Benghazi,another lie but the election is coming to an end and he has to win at all cost-so he stalls while people are rigging the computers in favor of o-stupid. Someone said we have allies helping us get to the truth, I for one do not believe it,obuma is not an accident he is where he is buy design and the conspiracy is huge,this is not to say we give up we get stronger. The conspirators that we do know,Harry Reid,Rick Holder,Pelosi,Panetta,Michelle obuma,Rice,Biden and n i have not forgotten he obuma gave the Stand down order when terrorist were attacking the embassy in Benghazi. What Supreme court justice or justices are involved? please keep Fast&Furious alive and also Benghazigate for justice sake.