Congress passed the bill without knowing what was in it. Barack Obama signed it without reading it. Now it looks as though the Associated Press reported on ObamaCare without comprehending its content. Readers will have to scroll far down to discover that the elimination of a key tax break that kept retirees on company prescription-medication plans will mean dumping millions of seniors onto Medicare — and that the AP ignored it until now:
The health care overhaul will cost U.S. companies billions and make them more likely to drop prescription drug coverage for retirees because of a change in how the government subsidizes those benefits.
In the first two days after the law was signed, three major companies — Deere & Co., Caterpillar Inc. and Valero Energy — said they expect to take a total hit of $265 million to account for smaller tax deductions in the future.
With more than 3,500 companies now getting the tax break as an incentive to keep providing coverage, others are almost certain to announce similar cost increases in the weeks ahead as they sort out the impact of the change.
Figuring out what it will mean for retirees will take longer, but analysts said as many as 2 million could lose the prescription drug coverage provided by their former employers, leaving them to enroll in Medicare’s program.
Read More: BY ED MORRISSEY, Hot Air
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Well I'll be a rotten Foowhackett. Who would have thunk it. Prepare yourselves for more little belated discoveries such as this one.
and so do you really think this was accidental? No I don't think so.
I hope those frigging creeps are happy, we are headed for hell in a hand basket and they're up there high fivin and slapping each other on the back. This DISASTOR a majority of American people put in the White House must go. Please democrats do what is good for the Country for a change, instead of thinking only of yourselves. Join with Republicans and start impeachment proceedings against this Monster. For the first time in my life(64) I'm really scared what is going to happen to our Country if this Adolf clone is allowed to continue.
Well, I'm not surprised. But, until his legality as an American citizen is proven or disproven, all legislation he and congress have done is a moot point. Once a ruling has been handed down about his legality(it's in the courts now), then people can proceed or not on 'obeying the new laws'. The Constitution covers ALL of us. Until the decisions are made in our judicial system as to the Constitutionality of what they have done then I don't think anyone is legally bound to do what Washington is trying to enforce on Americans. I for one will not accept anything Washington has done since this guy took office as being legally binding.
I'm with you. I've donated a bunch to organizations trying to sue regarding his eligibility. But… you don't have the whole scoop on the drug plan changes… well, maybe you do. Anyway, those going in the donut hole this year will get a whopping $250 rebate. Let me catch my breath! The donut hole costs the senior around $3000 in meds before they can get out of it for any given year. Next year there is supposed to be partial coverage for all in the donut hole, but….at what price? For the first time ever, "unearned income" meaning 401K, IRA and other retirement plans will be taxed at 3.8% just for sitting there. That means, even if you don't take a distribution, you will be taxed on your money. Seniors who get hit with the tax may think twice about the "benefits" of the changes in the drug plans.
I am with you 100% Janice. Even though the "birthers" are being dismissed by even most of the conservatives, the fact remains that this man has spent well over a million dollars to keep something hidden from the public. If his birth certificate doesn't reveal any potential problems for him, why would he go to such length and expense to keep it secret? I don't know if he was born in Hawaii or in Kenya. But I do believe at the very least he has dual citizenship. If he is a citizen of only one country, it is probably NOT the United States. Either way, he is probably not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President.
have you read this bill? or you just listing to what someone is telling you? read for yourself and then try and make a logical decision.
We have a big problem that needs elimated!
Yup, now it starts!
How about 16000 new IRS agents armed with 12 gauge riot guns to enforce the new law, that's in there too!
it's 61,000 not 16,000
All we need is one more IRS (KGB) agent roaming the streets…
Congress shall pass no law exempting any individual, group, politician, or organization from the law.
Embedded repeatedly throughout the Senate bill just signed by Obama is a statement that all decisions for spending all Health Care and Social Security money for the entire USA by the HHS Secretary (Kathleen Sebelius, Andrew L. Stern's (SEIU) personal assistant) are not subject to judicial or administrative review (above the law) and all records of payments are exempt from the Freedom of Information law.
The Health Care Bill authorizes the IRS as the Gestapo to conduct unlawful seizures of money and property from individuals who do purchase health insurance. Violates the US Constitution!
All study will clearly reveal the SOCIALIST intent of this BILL. And never has the term 'bill' been more accurate… citizens will pay large amounts of cash for this poor legislation. People are taxed if they don't have Dr. Obama's plan… tax if no insurance and tax if insured elsewhere. All will show the design to 'force' public to his single payer system… and pay you will. Obama bailed out GM at last minute simply to relieve lost dollars to unions while cost born by investors and employees. The White House is watching out for you… well, at least watching to insure your money pays for their interests. Enjoy the Hope and Change.
America: "How's that Hopey Changey working out for you" – Sarah Palin
We are currently covered under a drug plan from the company my husband retired from. Once we go off the plan we can not go back on it and sure other companies are the same. The government will screw it all up and then all seniors will have no coverage once the government runs it like they have social security,medicare, postal service and all other they thought they knew how to manage. Do not anyone in Congress have any common or business sense. They don't even hide the corruption going on up there any more it is just a regular day for them.
Seniors have been a downward sprial target of Obamacare from its onset…expendable…Obamacare is part of a larger agenda Obama and the people pulling his strings are planning. This is what one gets when tunnel visioned socialist children are running the county.
To add insult to injury – this illegal alien usurper in the White House planned to begin end of life
counseling at age 65, which is a few years shy of when they could even retire under the new SSN
rules. The plan seems to be to keep you paying into the system but make it impossible for you to
withdraw one penny from it. Probably included end of life euthanasia for those mentally or physically impaired at birth/infancy or toddler age.
Anyone who votes to return those who voted for a bill that they didn't know or understand what was in it should have their head examined. Maybe we should also require political candidates to show proof of their sanity, as well as proof of their citizenship.
AFTER 0VER TWO CENTURIES OF LIVING AN IDEAL LIFE ON THIS GLOBE, AMERICA IS COMMITTING SUICIDE!! AND THIS WRITER IS A MEMBER OF THE GREATEST GENERATION,FORCED TO WITNESS THIS SELF-DYING ,DUE TO A MUSLIM MADMAN, AND HIS IDIOTIC FOLLOWERS. ON TOP OF THIS, AMERICA HAS TURNED INTO THE CITY DUMP OF MEXICO,AND A STEADY INVASION OF MUSLIMS. STATISTICS IN EUROPE SHOW MUSLIMS WILL BE THE MAJORITY BEFORE LONG. IT'S EASY TO SEE THE THRUST OF THE ILLEGAL DUDE WHO WAS ELECTED TO OUR HIGHEST OFFICE. YET, I WILL NOT REFER TO HIM AS A PRESIDENT! MOST, AND , POSSIBLY ALL WHO READ THIS, WILL PROBABLY BE VERY ANNOYED, BUT TOUGH #@&@#!!
You'd be AMAZED at how many people feel JUST LIKE YOU DO!!!!
Charles i could not agree more with you. I have said from the very begining he ain't my president and I refuse to refere to him as anything at all. We are at the moment a nation with out a leader!!!!!
Charles,
I believe you have been to kind to the halfbreed. There should be an extermination order placed on DC so we can all resume or everyday lives. Otherwise, I hope all hell breaks lose. I also hope that all of the dumb bastards that voted for this alien lose all of their heath care benefits. Will serve em right. I think the last guy that took over a country like this started as a dog catcher, didn't he?
Charles, I couldn't agree with you more. There is one thing I know for sure and that is "I know who sits on the judgement seat, and my money says He isn't pleased at all with what He sees. Those of us who have surrendered to Jesus Christ know what our futrure holds. Pitty, and pray for those who don't. P.S. The election is only a few short months away. I told my wife after the election that this country way in for a rough four years. Anything he does would not supprise me in the least. We, the people must take a stand and take back America as ONE NATION UNDER GOD!!!!!!!!!____Rev. Chris Allen
He ISN'T the president until he can and will prove it, and NOT by fake paper, aged paper, looking for the old printing machine, stamps and seals or whatever else they can falsely think up.
And not spend a ton of money to hide it which he did and probably still is. Wouldn't be at all surprised that it's taxpayer money he used to pay the lawyers to help him.
It says in the Declaration of Independence, that when government does things to a destructive end it is the RIGHT of the people to ALTER, ABOLISH and INSTITUTE new government. It also says it is even our DUTY to THROW OFF such government.
LET'S GET GOING EVERYBODY!!!!
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It has the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, Gettysburg Address, The Ten Commandments.
It's not going to affect the rich and poor but we the middle class are the ones to be hit. God is still on the throne.
Why would anyone by shocked by this news? The Democrats and their leader have proven over and over again that they cannot think, write, convince, or anything else without help from someone else. So it would make sense that someone else would write the health care bill and that they would not read it and not CARE about WHAT IS or IS NOT IN IT! The Democrats seem willing to LIE, CHEAT, BULLY, COVER UP, and what ever else it takes to get what they and their leader want.
What should we do????? We hired these people right? SO, WE FIRE THESE PEOPLE!!! As Americans we take pride in our country, so WE TAKE THAT PRIDE TO THE POLLS. UNTIL THEN WE MUST LET THESE PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE SEE THEM, WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE, AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING. WE CAN DO THIS WE CAN HELP SAVE AMERICA WITH GODS HELP
WE CAN DO THIS.
And pray that they don't alter the voting.
Nothing that these four BOZOs do surprises me. Congress doesn't read it…The Senate doesn't read it…Obummer doesn't read it…Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it, if anyone in Washington can read ?
All of those "Closed Door Meetings" with all the deals being made to benefit the few at the expense of untold future genarations of Americans. This administration should be proud of it's unrivaled accomplishment in screwing the American people and endangering the economy and well being of the nation. As far as this American is concerned they are all on notice. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House & Senate the free ride's over. Check your local unemployment office to see if you qualify for benefits and START PACKING!!
Closed door meetings are because they know the public wouldn't like it and they couldn't get away with it. Never saw such childish behavior. I want what I want and I want it NOW, is their theme song.
This my friends is just the tip of the iceberg!
I just don't know what to say anymore. This has gone far beyond any description I can thinkl of to write without getting really, really angry.
It's okay to get angry. WE NEED TO GET ANGRY. If we don't we won't take action against them.
It should outrage all Americans and let the cry go up to Heaven.
Why does this news not surprise me. We all heard Ms. Pelosi tell us to pass this monstrosity and THEN read it. Seems the majority is now ruled by the minorty.
i'd like to point out we won't have to repeal anything the fraud has signed if he is removed for ineligibility. it all becomes invalid as he is not actually president. come on people, wake up. there is way out of this mess if we all demand our representatives, courts and military uphold their oath to defend the constitution. WAKE UP PEOPLE, WAKE UP.
I agree with you! It is past time to dump The Zero.
… and ALL it would take, is to PROVE that Obama attended school as a Foreign Student. Now SOMEBODY in America has the MONEY and the BACKING to get this done!! Hey, why don't we get George Soros? Nah, that probably wouldn't work. How about somebody like Mr. Atlantic City?
Truth is, if somebody could just research and get a copy of Obama's Passport that he was using
during his years he lived in Muslim countries …. and while he attended school .. that would be ENOUGH to prove that his entire life is one big LIE!!
Agreed!!!!! LET'S DO IT!!!!! LET'S ROLL!!!!
Did we expect anything less from the economic illiterates who conceived this monstrosity? When you get a clown like Waxman following the leash of Pelosi, combined with an opportunist like Reid and an American hater like Obama we knew we were headed for trouble. The result of this cataclysmic legislation will an increase in jobs lost, possibly as many as two million. The Progessives have broken the bank and our only salvation is to throw them all out on their respective rear ends NOW!!!!!
Its going to get far, far worse than this !!!
We need a smaller government and a MUCH different Congress in November!
Healthcare Bill = Labor Union Bailout!
Now who can possibly believe that obama and his puppeteers did not know that was in the bill? They wrote it !!! The purpose… to make everyone more dependent upon the government !!! If the majority is dependent on the government….how can they resist the socialistic regime ?? Then thy would not have any resource for crucial medications. Socialism will then be victorious !!! Just look what it did for the USSR !!! I read today where the A.T.F. raided and arrested a Christain group, jailed them and did not even inform them of the charges against them !!!! They will be charged today in court after the A.T.F, F.B.I and whoever obama's puppets wants pilfers through all they own and make up charges. If they broke the law, tell them what law was broken, the cause of the arrest as the Constitution demands. If they are criminals, they should be arrested but not on a whim of the government or some political official !! Sounds too much like Hitler's gustopo !! Maybe obama's gustopo…..
Ever heard of a group called "Apollo"?? THEY actually wrote it. Did you really think these people
in congress that have never READ it …actually WROTE IT!!?? NO WAY!!!! They were too busy in
trying to shove it down the American people's throats …and they had NO IDEA what was actually in the bill.
I saw this coming when he was campaigning. It is not about health care, it is about CONTROL. Socialist control of the country. Hitler bankrupt Germany, and then took control of everything. This is the same way Obama is doing.
I will vote for no incumbent this coming Nov. It may be too late, but it is possible to change the votes in the Senate. One third of the Senate is up for election per every two years. Please do your share to make sure the Dems do not have control come 2011.
BaldEagle
Meanwhile the illegal alien Muslim in the White House finds a few new jobs to be added to the federal payroll (which adds to the already overburdened government expense) with overseers and committees and advisors for the purpose of implementing his newly passed covert bill.
And while he is padding the federal payroll with his one world global government (aka NWO) buddies, a few million more taxpayers lose their jobs in the private sector and are no longer able to pay income taxes.
taxes.
As far as the large companies having to foot the health care bill … That was the intention. They were duped into not fighting the bill and now they are slammed !! Maybe everyone should have enough to sense not to pass laws without knowing the content !! Big business should be smarter than that !!! I am not considered brillant ..yet I know the content of any contract I enter into..
its to late to wake up now. try reading page 114 line 22.
Hell is at our doorsteps!! We MUST dump Obama and the rest of the criminals and liars…
To say that Obama and Pelosi didn't know about this new expense is to be completely ignorant!! THEY KNEW! Obama doesn't care about what it will take to break America, as long as it happens; and the sooner the better. He is a friend of our enemies (they helped him get elected by pumping money into his election coffers) and he is determined to destroy America so that the one world government and one currency will have to take over.
I couldn't agree more Teresa! He is a friend of our enemies and makes war on the American people. To call it what is, it's TREASON. It certainly falls under "high crimes and misdemeanors." I'd like to start with impeachment and not stop until he and a few lackeys are behind bars. If only we could get the evidence….The difference between us and them is that we're law abiding.
Obama demonstrates the fallacy that one can equate formal education with intelligence. In my opinion, Obama is an illiterate fool. Note that he even struggles reading the teleprompter. I would suggest that major companies transfer their manufacturing operations to employer friendly countries like CAnada,India,Taiwan,Mexico and let Obama stew and find employment for the people whose jobs he has caused to disappear. Only one hope–IMPEACH OBAMA.
As most contentious bills go, it was rushed and unexamined, lest folks wake up to its implications before it was locked in. The Tea Party opponents could be marginalized, sadly, because some of them reportedly misbehaved – although that never served to marginalize Leftist populist movements.
http://www.thedailybell.com/922/Tibor-Machan-the-…
I don't know how many times I've said this, but this is not a Health Bill in any manner shape or form. IT IS A GENOCIDE BILL and has been from the start. It is also a bill to redistribute the wealth and to control the population. The bureaucrats will decide who gets medical care and who does not. In other words, they will decide if your life is worth the medical care it would need to survive. Get the sobs out of office and impeach all of them for High Crimes and Misdemeanors. In other words TREASON! And we all know what the penalty for treason is.
Damn the torpedoes ! Full speed ahead and we won World War 11. Now we can apply the same to the IMPEACHMENT PROCESS. There are so many reasons for this most unqualified, most unknowledgeable, most inexperienced President with the many shady characters ever to occupy the WHITE HOUSE, that IMPEACHMENT SHOULD NOT be impossible. He has done so much damage to the USA AND 320 millions that now is the time for IMPEACHMENT AND THOSE WHO DO NOT VOTE FOR IT, should be put out of CONGRESS.
My Father-in-law received a letter from Pfizer (his former employer) last week informing him they will be dropping his drug coverage. I can NOT believe Obama and his progressive friends didn't know this would happen. They planned it that way!! We need to be more determined than they are to take America back from these criminals…the minute they get hit in the rear with the door on the way out…the need to be arrested. We have to know who we are voting for in November too…NO PROGRESSIVES should EVER be allowed in our Government.
AGREED! Only one hope–IMPEACH OBAMA along with the rest of them that have allowed this health bill to go through. Let's put a continual, very hard pressure on our Senators and Representatives. If we do it WITHOUT letup they will have to reckon with the force of good coming from " We the people" for an honest , care about the people government, just as we have to reckon with the force of evil coming from them. Come on, we can do this. Let's not let them get away with this any longer. It's been tooooo long already. Even in his campaigning we could see his lying and flip flopping. That should have been recognized at that time. Then the same day he was inagurated he sealed all his records. It was very clear that he was hiding something. If that wasn't enough, he then spends an exhurbant amount to keep the records under cover. Why would anyone do that if there is nothing to hide? WHY? Of course he wanted to hide his records. HE is NOT LEGAL. All it would have taken was 20 – 40 dollars to show his records. People do you see that? And it wouldn't surprise me if he used taxpayers money to hide those records. Then let's come down with such fiercity on this that they won't know what hit them. It will also show the others in Congress we won't stand for this kind of behavior from ones that are supposed to be working for us. Anyone else agree?
Sure do Evelyn!
why should anyone be surprised. He in his speeches told all what his plans were and he put in office who would go along with him. The majority of the so called intellectuals are dumb as they have no common sense. Please many of you with young children do not pay any money to send your children to a higher learning as these professors are the bums of the 60's.
I AM VERY SORRY I PAID TO HAVE MY CHILD HAVE ANY EDUCATION IN THIS COUNTRY. TAKE A LOOK AT THE EDUCATORS AND THEIR CHILDREN A SORRY BUNCH OF REJECTS
What will you do when you find out about, what happens to the VA. Those Veterans who support Obama will be happy. No more VA. They will be proud. I know of one Veteran who will be very happy, they supported Obama. And it will get worse. That is a promise. Panels will decide if the care you need is worth the money. This includes babies. Kill those babies. Have you heard of forced Abortion. Those who support the killing of babies will be happy about that. I can promise you that is in there. The MEDIA knows all about it, but refuses to tell you about it, because then you might not like Obama. The MEDIA took a pledge to make sure Obama is known as the best president this country has ever had. Even if they have to lie about it. And they have done plenty of that.
Like all of Obama's work, done behind closed doors and in the middle of the night : Its Chicago DIRT !!
Your right Thomas it is Chicago thuggery. I should take a trip to Chicago and see what I am missing. Maybe I will learn a trick or two. I know here in Boston we do things different. We follow the Constitution because, we basically wrote it. This guy is a clone of Hitler. He is purposely doing what he is doing. But guess what, we will prevail. Anyone that sais they like this health care, which hasn't even begun, must be smoking some kind of weed and is on a trip in la la land. Maybe I can use some to figure out what the hell is going on in our country.
All these lawsuits coming up and all this worrying about this health care, why can't we just concentrate all efforts to proving him not a natural born citizen. Then everything he has passed is null and void. Case closed. Does anyone know if he runs for a second term, will he have to produce a birth certificate then ?
Hi Ron M –
Have you not had any disputes with any branch of government? Anyone who has will quickly tell you that the government states that the burden of proof falls upon you, not the government. So everybody – light a fire under your DC representatives and your local governors to give this illegal
alien muslim 3 days to prove his eligiblity (the same 3 days he gave the auto dealers to turn over
all their records to them) and arrest him and all his cohorts (beginning with Pelosi who allegedly
certified that he was eligible) and prosecute them on charges of fraud, high treason, bribery and anything else that has a chance of being proved.
Exposing him for the illegal alien that he is will end the tyranny of this NWO puppet and all his fellow NWO puppets he has appointed as czars, committees, supreme court judges, etc.
An ineligible, illegal alien does not call for impeachment – IT CALLS FOR EXPOSURE AND CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.
The Muslim Mulato in the White House and his openly racist wife are traveling and treating themselves via the taxpayers money. Think of the cost of their "Date Nights" to NYC. What about Michelle taking her mother and two daughters in an Air Force executive jet to London so they could enjoy "Authenic Fish & Chips"? He's the biggest Socialist since Adolp Hitler. If he's not impeached soon, the Democrat Party should have him resign before he does unreparable harm to that organization. Maybe it's too late!
I hear and know the agonizing frustration out there. I too am experiencing it. We look for leaders and answers to what we should do next. I think Glen Beck may be providing some answers and solutions on his daily TV program which I record each day and carefully consider his comments. I think the most comforting and helpful was when he solemnly and dramatically emphasized this heavy remark – "Our weapon of choice is not violence, but prayer. Be unafraid and stand for what you believe and do not be intimidated by people – just tell the truth and get down on your knees and pray to God for your country. He WILL hear you and He WILL help." He repeated this also on his radio show. It might help to listen to him.
Obumma said in his speech to around 1000's of drones standing in back of him in his Chicago thuggery voicy, we are 5 days away from fundamentally transforming America forever. Well guess what Obumma, we are 7 months away from fundamentally transforming the Whitehouse and Congres forever. Hopefully you and your goons can go to an island infested with sharks and you can make up legislation for the islanders. Maybe they can make voodoo dolls out of you, and they can stick pins in the dolls and get you are out of your misery. Because We the People wont have you as our dicator anymore. As a president and your lefty socialistic, marxist, communist leftys you are going to be gone soon. We will make sure of that.
Can't believe the Supreme Court didn't think they should "invade" the privacy of this ersatz president He has certainly lied more than sufficiently & invaded our America (when his own devious party knew he wasn't qualified to run for the office he's now making a mockery of). Can''t wait until he's gone, if we have a country left. All of his party (& those of the other party) who had any part in the sending of America's jobs out of the country & the passing this anti-American SOCIALIST health(?) bill should be tried for treason, put on a boat like the "man without a country" & never be allowed to touch our hallowed shores again.
Let's VOTE as many of them OUT of OFFICE in NOV. as possible! FED UP WITH THE ENTIRE BUNCH of ELECTED who think they own our souls, rights, & don't have to abide by our Constitution, laws, rights, etc. *^ You'd never know they took an Oath of office, They're such liars).
GOD BLESS AMERICA
AMERIKKA
I hope the fools and idiots who voted for Obama, et al, are really proud of themselves. The only good thing is that they will have to wallow around in the cess pool they created! And that will be a long time for the young ones.
well twist my tail and xall me curly !!…..you dont mean pisslosy has found another way to put the screws to us do you?
Obama's plan is to make America a muslim nation,has been his plan from the start,he has already said in his speeches America ia a great muslim nation.
America IS NOT a muslim nation,it is a Christian nation.
Does anyone get the picture here? Congress is being soooooooo stupid that they are pressing the issue and they are giving us a warning and the idea that they want to take us over! Doesn't anyone see that? We have to fight back by voting these people OUT of OFFICE and getting this thing right and taking back OUR government! We can't afford to sit on our butts! ACT NOW or become a Marxist?Communist society! GOT IT???? Haven't you all heard enough from Barry Soetoro yet? WAKE UP FOLKS!!!!!!!