If this extremely disturbing video (containing strong language) does not result in a Federal investigation into the human rights violations of those Christians physically attacked at the 2012 Dearborn Arab Festival then we could very well be in trouble as a country. (The stoning begins at about the nine minute mark.)
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I say let them have Michigan. They can fight the blacks for it.
I respectfully disagree! Michigan is a magnificent State, with terrific people. I lived there, years ago, and the only TOILET was Detroit! If there was a way of LEVELLING Detroit…and, now that I see that Dearborn is a BRIMMING SUMP, too…Michigan would be relieved, and brimming with some of the finest people I’ve ever known. This is really something…
It looks to me like this is an act of war. They have brought their hate and violence to our land now. Maybe it’s time to move/burn them out. What would we do if a foreign Country started a war in our Country. We have the right to defend our Country, even if the Authorities have joined the Enemy, they will also be the enemy. It really is up to the people to defend ourselves, this is just the beginning. Obviously Our Country is now divided, with GOV taking sides with the enemy/ISLAM. I hope I don’t live long enough to see the demise of the USA, by savages.
There is a war in our country already. It’s called the Mexican invasion.
Had I been leading or in that group getting stones thrown at them in Dearborn, I would have left, gone to the edge of town, shaken the dust off my clothes and off my shoes, and pronounced a solemn curse from God against that town. THAT is Jesus Christ’s proscription for Christians who get treated like that by an entire city. Leave, put a curse on it, and let God take care of the rest.
Why should we give them anything? We didn’t ask them to come to our country. If they don’t want to live by our laws, get them out. I am tired of them wanting “rights” when we can’t have any in their country. It’s a one way street with the arabs…they’re just like the Israelis…..gimme, gimme, gimme. Always taking…they’re cousins even tho they deny it.
I disagree. Michigasn is still one of the states. Muslims can’t have it. People in te US need to abide by our laws and customs. If they don not want to do that, they are free to leave immediately! It would be nice if the muslims would just leave unless they would like to start the game of cowboys and muslims! i’m willing to fight that one!
Video shows exactly what the Muslim Bro in the DC Hood’s change is, the transformation of America into a Christian hating, Muslim nation like Egypt, Iran, Libya, Syria, Yemen etc. with the goal of Israel’s annihilation and Christian discrimination with the economy of Greece, Spain, Italy and California, NY and Dearborn, Michigan, a D-Rat led stinking Muslim city on the Hill. Allahu Akbama!! A C.amel H.umping I.slamic M.onkey P.ig, faux POTUS to the peaceful religion of Islam and its participants caught on video.
This is nothing. Just wait until the Muslim population becomes large enough to demand Sharia Law.
We can’t let that happen! We need to start thinning them out!
Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.
Lets have a look at the evidence:
- No Christmas
- No television
-No nude women
- No football
- No pork chops
- No hot dogs
- No burgers
- No beer
- No bacon
- Rags for clothes
- Towels for hats
- Constant wailing from some idiot in a tower
- More than one wife
More than one mother in law
- You can’t shave
- Your wife can’t shave
- You can’t wash off the smell of donkey
- You cook over burning camel dung
- Your wife is picked by someone else for you
- and your wife smells worse than your donkey
They wipe their butts with their fingers
Then they tell you that “when you die, it all gets better”??
Well no crap Sherlock!….
It’s not like it could get much worse.
I like it !!You hit so many nails on the head with this list.Way to go!
At least the Muslims do have one thing going for them……their woman have to wear those Burqas that cover the faces of the woman. I believe this is the only reason that Arab Muslims remain a viable part of the world’s population. Without that bag….errr, I mean Burqa covering their heads virtually no children would be conveived. As far as the stoning, it is time to put an end to this BS! Since Obama has taken office and Eric Holder it has been open season on white people…..and “white hipanics”. At the same time, Holder is out there saying he could not prosecute “his people”. That is why the New Black Panther Party has not been prosecuted for for voter intimidation and other organized crimes. However, white border agents are prosecuted for defending themselves from drug mules crossing the border from Mexico. I do not think this country can handle 5 or 6 more months of the Obama Administration much less 4 more years if re-elected. This country is in major trouble. If Muslims cannot behave like civilized people they shoudl be deported immediately. I guess it would be more agreeable to the Liberals and this administration for the minorities to simply take out all white conservatives. When they finish doing that they can concentrate on removing the white liberals who are foolish enough to think the Muslims appreciate what the liberals do for them.
You are soooooo right on, they may even be one of the 1st to go, after all they won’t need them anymore.
Yeah Cant believe this is happening twice in my life time. Look like Newark during the 60′s riots……..Lock and load!
Is it not great that we have a l president and AG who love the law and constitution of the US?
Thay will take care of this in no time.
What are these Muslims doing over here anyways?
Why are they not in their Muslim paradises in the Middle East?
Is it so good over there that they try to escape all that goodness?
I thought that “Islam is a religion of PEACE”! That was said, by Muslim spokesmen, on TV, in the moments following the attacks on the World Trade Center, when jets plowed into skyscrapers…
rELIGION OF PEACE?
aLL THEY WANT IS A PEACE OF YOUR HIDE.
There’s no two ways about it, there is NO compromise with these beasts – theirs is NOT a religion as we know that term to mean at all – we are facing the same fate as Europe and there is only one conclusion, as the (sane) Israeli’s have long known, IT’S THEM OR US.
First we have to get the muslim-in-chief out of our house along with the muslim-brotherhood’s favorite d. yke clinton, and hope to hell Mr. Romney knows more about this danger than he’s letting on, because the islamofascists are NOT going to quit voluntarily…
Romney is part of the scheme, and has been courted by the Bilderbergs [OWO]
Be careful…Obama and Hillary Clinton attended their conference this year.
The problem here is, the cops aren’t doing a damn thing, so people think that this behavior is okay. Worse, someone is going to get angry over these types of things happening, and someone will bring in guns and start shooting rapidly into the crowd, blowing out the brains of these idiots that don’t know enough to stay away from crap like this while it is happening. These muslims need to go back to thier own country, if they don’t believe in Christianity. This country was founded on Christianity, and there isn’t a single person that can ever change that! There had to be a reason that they wanted to come here to America. White, Americans are only going to put up with so much! This is our country, and we were born and raised here, and we have no problem fighting for her. If you don’t believe in our way of life here, LEAVE!
These so called human think they will run over americans they better think again ! we have our ways of dealing with commie muslims and any oyhers that think they will take over the USA better think about it again ! I know send them out west we need target practice out here ! The only good Muslim is a dead muslim and we can help them out, This is part of Odumbo plan to start riots so he thinks he can declair marital law he better watch what he wishes for for the american people are ready to put his sorry ass in jail for life and then we can deport all the fu*king muslims out of this country once and for all because Odumbo is finished in Nov for sure along with Clinton,Holder, Valerie Jerratt and the rest of the commie Dems, I see the Dems are ready to Impeach Holder they know what side the bread is buttered on Thier time is up and they have lost the fight and they are to stupid to see what is really going on this has been tried before and they lost then also
This should not be a surprise.
Nor will it be a surprise that it’s tolerated by Obama, letting the Muslims, like the black panthers, know that they can oppress Americans with impunity.
You do not want to be Jewish around any Muslim….even ones that smile and pretend they are the nice ones! They are not…. if you are not part of Islam or you do not plan on converting and following their rules…you are the enemy. They hate Jews they want them wiped off the face of the planet along with the christians and white men!!! One of the muslim woman that I unfortunately trusted said that to me ….it will be good when white man is wiped off the face of the planet! That is their goal by any means neccesary! I live in Chicago I have been harrassed by muslims here….they know I am jewish. One tried to spit on me when I was walking to a jewish religious service, there is a mosque by my house ….the security guards that work there tried to hit me on purpose with a car…they were laughing they thought it was funny. I have reported every one of the incidents ( these are only a few examples of what they have done ) ….nothing has been done!!!! The democrats pander too much to someone who is the enemy!!!! Read some books about what they have done in Europe!!! They use the laws of any country they are in to make people bow down to their every whim!!!! They are clever!!!!! Everyone needs to wake up and not give in to them!!!
I say go to the mosque when it’s full of muslims wait for thm to start coming out and stone them till the last one drops
I say Blow-up their mosques, they will eventually [especially if our Gov sides with them] do it to you, and it looks to be getting closer to it.
Has Michigan stripped its non muslim citizenry of their 1st and 2nd amendment rights?
Sure have a bunch of slimy little b***t**s, can you imagine growing up even to be more filthy……………geeezzz just a nasty nest of vermin……..UGHHHHHHHH!!! it’s enough to make one puke.
you can stop them without resorting to violence, all you need is small containers of pig blood. sounds crazy but it works
These Muslims are vile and despicable, as are all of them. Why do you think Nobama stopped here? He is one of them! By the way, also vile and despicable, and we can’t forget the word FRAUD! This is exactly what Nobama is hoping for. A country filled with his ilk. This is the epitomy of disregard for the American people, and the United States of AMERICA! Dearborn Michigan with it’s City Officials, the Sheriffs Department, and the Dearborn Muslim Leadership, all need to get back to a country where they can shout “God Bless America”, then they will create the bloodshed they so desperately are searching for….Beheadings! We need to stand together and rid our country of this filth, and those that do not put the Constitution and God first!
This is unnacceptable, heart renching, disrespectful, violent, negligent, lazy, discriminating… behavior on behalf of Muslims and police officers. This video is a treasure trove of why we really may indeed need racial profiling. I’m horrified at the Muslims participating in the violence AND the one’s who just look on. I pass these people who appear ‘clean cut’ occasionally in my state. Now I’m thinking to myself – I wonder what that Muslim looking person thought about me as I passed them. Was I safe? Well, they look just like these Muslims in this video. How do I really know? This is inexcusable behavior in our country!!!! Is Romney awake? – I HOPE SO!
There is no hope for the survival of America today. We have already cross the point of no return to the America that our Grandfathers knew and fought for in WW1 & 2..
Seeing this video makes me sick… I am glad that my grandfather who fought in WWI can’t see this… And I am a shamed for what America has become… Certainly not the majority but most likely is the majority if not already there now when you add the number of the misinformed, uneducated, lazy, godless and stupid idiots to the list.
Do you think maybe these people are blind that they just can’t see the truth? Maybe that is why the Bible says:
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light (Truth) of the gospel of the Glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 2 Corinthians 4:4
Is it any wonder the Bible says: The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2
I would be surprise if America survives until the election. God has already given His judgment for America, which is a nuclear attack. Goggle, “Hand of Help Ministries” and click on “Dreams/Visions.” Or goggle, America ~ Mystery Babylon, watchman48
Watchman, I have gone to “Hand of Help Ministries” and I have read some of the dreams of M. Boldea. Nowhere have I read that the righteous in America will not prevail over this evil. A great revival is coming to this country and the righteous followers of Christ will be emboldend to carry on with the message of salvation.
Matthew 16:18..And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Apart from Christ there is none that are righteous… Have you ever read through the Old Testament. The leaders of Israel considered themselves righteous… America has been judged by God and He makes it very clear that America will burn through a nuclear holocaust.
I have had 26 dramatic spiritual happenings of which I was worthy of not even one…. I have witnesses that can back up what I have said for half of these events before they came true. I came within one or two seconds of murdering a co-worker in June of ’78, one week before my son’s 8th birthday. Standing behind Dan with my hands within a inch to push him to his death, suddenly the lights went out, not in the building that we were working in but in me. I closed my eyes, shook my head, I opened my eyes and I was standing in a garden setting and there standing before me was my 4yr daughter and son and they both reach out towards me and said, “No, Daddy, no!” The lights went out again in me and I closed my eyes and shook my head and I opened my eyes and there I was standing behind Dan to push him to his death and I back away from him. God knew this was the only thing that could stop me other than striking me with a heart attack. Goggle, America ~mystery Babylon? watchman48″
In a sermon in Glen Avon, CA. one morning Pastor Bunch stop and pointed to me and said, “If you are in Sodom or Gomorrah when God allows them to be destroyed He promises to take you up within the blink of the eye.” No one else seen this or heard this that morning. God is just as real today as He was 2000 years ago.
I am not as crazy as you might think. The world will soon fine out that God’s judgment has been given but there are very few that are listening.
I have to agree with you totally.. America has turned it’s back on God,and I think we are going to pay the ultimate price. God help the ones that believe and lives by his word..We need Gods strength to endure what is ahead..It’s certainly not a good picture..
“I have to agree with you totally.. America has turned it’s back on God,and I think we are going to pay the ultimate price. God help the ones that believe and lives by his word..We need Gods strength to endure what is ahead..It’s certainly not a good picture..”
I see this as the Muslims see it, America really has become the Great Satan.
It has become what Americans most feared, an Empire…
It’s all for a reason, in its’ own season….
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
I tend to think most of these America hating groups underestimate the American Spirit. Bad, bad mistake. The American spirit was born in War and will carry us through this War as well. Keep the Faith.
This is a CIA Report before the CIA went completely bonkers…
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is to convert the world & to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s (supposed) to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: we know however that this isnt true is it…?
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons…and they are coming to a neighborhood near you…so keep thinking they are not going to harm you and they “accept” you.
Why are my posts being deleted? Is it because I strongly oppose a Ground Zero mosque? That’s what the Huffington Post does – remove posts and delete accounts for opposing the GZ mosque. That coat factory was hit by airplane parts & bodies – THAT IS GROUND ZERO. Remember how offended muslims were over those Danish cartoons? How hypocritical can they be?
News: “Saudis’ Multi-Million Dollar PR Agenda ”
“…donations like this help promote a Saudi point of view and shuts down any criticism of Saudi Arabia.
“Saudi donations to American universities should be seen in a much larger picture of Saudi promotion of a Saudi point of view,” Pipes explained. “Whether it be Islamic or political, the Saudis have a point of view. And they have been very clever and very generous over the decades to promote that point of view. It’s hard to find academics at American universities in the general area of Middle East studies who will say things that are anathema to the Saudis.”
“Georgetown is close to where the embassies are located,” Myers explained. “It is the center of power in America. It’s where all of the lobbyists have to congregate because of the sheer size of the government. So people must go there and try to feed from the troff.”
“Georgetown and Harvard aren’t the only major U.S. universities to receive Saudi funds. Duke, Howard, Cal-Berkeley, Syracuse and Johns Hopkins have also received substantial donations from the Saudi royal family. The Saudi government spends an estimated $5 billion each year on schools, mosques and Islamic centers around the globe. These institutions often promote the Saudi government’s brand of Wahhabi Islam.”
“Mosques are our barracks, domes our helmets, minarets our bayonets, believers our soldiers.”
- Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan
“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”
- Omar M. Ahmad, founder of Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
The United States is in trouble.
If this is not stopped now.
What was the police doing when this was happening?
This was the land of the free what happened?
Just listen to them they are animals.
They should all be sent back to there own country if they can not abide by our rules.
This is so disgusting. The coward cops are worse. They are supposed to protect law abiding citizens but they are scared to the point of soiling their pants of the Muslims. Don’t look from help from our Muslim president or his corrupt Attorney General. This isn’t even America anymore.
Don’t expect that to happen. Comrade dictator loves this as it creates unrest. Now if you could get a few surplus granades you could take care of part of the problem yourselves…. I agree, the only good Musllim is one that is under the grass..
This is outrageous..This is still America isn’t it ? This is something that has to be dealt with from the top,and we all kmow that.
This President will not stand up for the American citizen’s..this is obvious from the Arizona incident, that has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, that all American citizen’s are in serious trouble..
What would have to be done to change all this, Is a President that would stand firm against this kind of behavior and demand that it stop..that would stop it all..but unfortunately..we do not have anyone at the top that is willing to stand up for America and it’s citizen’s.
So come November,we have to make that our number one priority,if we are to keep our freedom and our rights..We have to stand together America..since our President will stand up for us..
Make yourself ready my Christians freinds.The time is so very near ,the trumpet is about to sound.
The logic from the police is asinine.Unbeleivable. They by law should have been protecting the rights of free speech for those Christians.SHAME ON THEM.Wait until those same muslims demand they adopt Islam or suffer the loss of their head.One good thing about this incident is it shows the utter lie that Islam is peaceful and tolerant.What is disturbing is the look of absolute hate from those muslim children.To so hate is to be mentally ill. We just witnessed a depravity of the mind that Islam perpetrates.
“The logic from the police is asinine.Unbeleivable. They by law should have been protecting the rights of free speech for those Christians.”
It has been determined in a court of law that the police DO NOT have a responsability to protect anyone. They only have to solve crimes after the fact.
This shows the upside down concern by police for people’s rights. It also shows that the Muslim adult population there has no control over their kids which are mostly foul mouthed with no respect for adults and violent. They has no fear of attacking lawful people because they have an entitlement mentality already and no rel religion of their own based on their godless behavior. I hope the Christian group sues the sheriff or what ever agency it was. They also had a permit to be there.
Wow..Wow, so now stoning is allowed in America???!!! Those savages need to go home and home is not just down the street and around the corner! Shame on the police for allowing the savages to act the way they did! We are in big trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The police are only doing what they are ordered to do. This is NO different than was Hitler’s Lieutenants at the Nuremberg trials. They claimed they were only following orders to which the American disqualified their claims and told them they had conscience and moral obligation to reject any order that ran contrary to their morals and conscience. Thus, the answer to your question is actually the police must not have any conscience or morals for they were “just” following orders. Hitler’s Lieutenants were hanged for acting the exact same way, following orders.
As for hanging people, if your ancestors had honestly and properly followed the US Constitution, Abraham Lincoln would have been hung and we would not have ANY of these problems we have today. People let the problem slide by while MAKING innocent people suffer and die from not doing the right things. This also set a precedent for government, showing them they could commit treason, get by with it and even make the people suffer and pay for their(government’s) treasonous ways. You let it go for so long and grow to such large proportions it is now past your ability to stop or even control it. As I said, you have lost your country… All for apathy and lies…
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
@xnylady
—Everyone–
Please read all my posts. My writings will interlock and make a continuation of my overall subject and goals. (There will be only a minimum of exceptions.)
I’ve previously stated some of my experiences and ancestry, qualification…etc. (read my posts if you’re curious.)
In continuing with regards to the video above, all of you fail to understand that YOU have already lost your country. I was in Washington DC, as a sort of lobbyist, almost 20 years ago, hoping that something could be done politically. Though I knew better, I knew it wouldn’t, I tried anyway, hoping to be a goof American and try to be fair to everyone. I left in disgust learning that ONLY money drives politics in DC, NOT the people. Some of my own people have been involved in government all their lives (grand dad almost 50 years until about 1968.) My grand dad said the only difference between the government and the crooks is one has a badge to steal while the other does not.
My dad served in both the Navy and Army, yet what he done as well as the rest of the family was NOT for the American Government. They despised the Government as much as I did, but they all (other family also) said they worked to serve the people and would try their best to represent them and work through government channels in helping protect us. (Understand my dad’s side had over ancestors of varying kin serve in the Confederate States of America. Also see my reference to my ancestry. They cared NOT for the government but for the people that shared their beliefs, and they tried to use the government to accomplish this. People would refer to ALL people regardless of region as long as they held the same ideals and similar understanding of life.)
What I’m getting too is that the country is past saving. It was past saving after Nov. 8, 1865, when the Shenandoah surrendered. (read my previous articles to know what Lincoln said, him having destroyed the Republic..)
Whether one agrees with me or not is irrelevant. The fact is things are gonna get much worse. MUCH WORSE, regardless to who wins the election. Every president since Lincoln has only carried the country further into the abyss. Yet everyone wants to play politics and vote for the lesser of two evils and think they are saving the country.
People needs to know, why and how the country got to where it is today in order to try and address the real problems. You absolutely cannot address the problems today without knowing what caused and how to address those causes in order to stop this from continuing. This is only ONE reason Mr Lincoln’s War is NOT over. (I’ve been verbally told too much of this, past on from my people, with my grand dad telling me much back in the early 60′s. Plus what I’ve learned through the written family history, specifically the Jackson side. again see previous articles.)
As I said the country is past saving. Now you can only take precautions and maybe get in a few lines in informing others as to what they should be doing. And maybe you can sneak in a technological jab at the enemy here and there. (There are ways that are legal.)
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
OH yeah! Islam is a very peaceful religion!—Proof is contained in the video! Is alluh really something of the orderof Shiva(Hindu) Just think the greatest deception the Devil did was to trick us he just does not exist! the proof is diminishing!
My dad fought in ww2 in North Africa and Italy and he told me that one day our country would get this way..
When the freebies run out because of no money that is when it is really going to get bad..
Gun ownership in this country is at an all time high and for good reason..
Citizens may well have to resort to the only thing that will protect them from the government and other enemies.. THE SECOND AMENDMENT
Those young bastards don’t even know what they are fighting for. They are just young punks that should be jailed.
The police should have done their job ! The should have had the muslins arrested ! they should have played back the video .Instead they attacked the Christains 1 st Amendment rights .They should sue the police dept and the state of Mi.
Didn’t you get the memo? Our “Dick Tater” declared that we are not a “Christian nation” anymore. I think it was another Executive Order that was released in the middle of the night at the beginning of a weekend so no one would notice. Transparent administration my a$$. Not even a transparent Communist Regime.
I’ll begin by saying i am a practicing Catholic and have been raised the same. The only reason i just created this account was to tell all of you incredibly ignorant s.o.b.’s who are posting the most racist unbelievably uneducated crap I’ve ever heard! Have any of you ever met a Muslim? Have you studied what they truly believe? Islam is truly a TOLERANT and beautiful religion! Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same True God. And in many ways we are similar in other beliefs. Also I’m reading posts about ‘cursing’ a City of millions based on the sole reason of high crime rates!!?? Ill tell you one thing.. God will not Condemn Detroit, Michigan (my home state), or America just because a couple supremacists think he should.. Also don’t spread your unwarranted hate toward others in the name of God!! you should be ashamed of yourselves! That Christian group that was protesting was probably just as offensive as the words coming from Muslims. Seriously protesting at a festival with Children its disgusting!! The police were protecting themselves and the protesters by telling them to back off. So please don’t let your hate cloud your decency. And may you truly let God give peace to your hateful hearts
bpax, There are many previous Popes from the Catholic Church that will vehemently disagree with you, as this Bishop below…
(You appear by your writing that you are a Catholic in name only.)
This Bishop doesn’t think Islam is peaceful
One sees many white, Anglo-Saxon, mostly Protestant members of Congress and others on television today vouching for the “peaceful” nature and intent of Islam. Oprah Winfrey has done a show on “modern Muslim women” — none of whom would be allowed to dress in contemporary clothing, be educated, or even appear on television if they lived in radical Muslim states.
I ask the Right Reverend Bullen Dolli, an Episcopal Bishop in Sudan, what he believes about the nature and intent of contemporary Islam. “It is a militant religion,” he tells me and laughs at those who serve as its character witnesses.
Bishop Dolli was in Washington last week at the invitation of the Institute on Religion and Democracy. He attempted to warn Congress and anyone else who would listen of the dangers to his country and the United States posed by Islam, especially in its militant form.
In Sudan, says Bishop Dolli, the coercive instruments of the state use brutal force to insure that no other religion but Islam is practiced. The congregation of All Saints Cathedral in Khartoum, a peaceful assembly of Christians, was recently disbanded and many members were arrested, tried in kangaroo courts and either imprisoned or punished by caning.
Bishop Dolli says former Sudanese President Sadiq el-Mahdi has prophesied that by 2010, the world will be dominated by Islam. His prophecy is written in Sudanese school textbooks.
In Sudan, says Bishop Dolli, many Christian church buildings have been either bulldozed or bombed from the air. Non-Muslims suffer persecution in employment, and all women, whether Muslim or not, are forced to wear the black chador and veil. The government army has been renamed “Jundy Allah” (the Army of Allah) and they fight jihad (holy war) against those in Southern Sudan and non-militant Moslems.
Slavery continues to be practiced by the murahaleen, members of government-backed militias who regularly conduct raids against Christians in Southern Sudan. The murahaleen have killed thousands, enslaved children and young women, stolen cattle, plundered and burned food stores and crops and are reported by various human rights organizations to have raped both men and women.
Over 2 million Sudanese civilians are estimated to have died since 1983 as a result of the continuing warfare, according to the IRD. Many millions more have been forced to flee their homes. Bishop Dolli says radical Islam’s goal is to dominate the entire African continent with its militant, oppressive, dangerous and increasingly popular brand of religion. So-called “Islamic moderates,” in the bishop’s view, are among the first targeted for extermination by the extremists, even before they go after Jews and Christians.
If Sudan is too far away to worry about, is Potomac, Md. close enough? The Washington Post’s Marc Fisher recently visited a Muslim school in that D.C. suburb. What he found ought to send chills up every American spine. An eighth grader told Fisher: “If I had to choose sides, I’d stay with being Muslim. Being an American means nothing to me. I’m not even proud of telling my cousins in Pakistan that I’m American.”
The school principal said: “Allegiance to national authority is one thing, but the one who gives us life is more entitled to that authority. This is the story of religion through all time. When national laws and values go counter to what the Creator believes, we are 100 percent against it.”
When Christians, Jews and those of most other faiths disagree with the American government, they have worked within the system to change it, or in extreme cases (as with Martin Luther King Jr.) have been willing to suffer government’s punishment for violating our laws for a nobler purpose. It is different with militant Islam, which seeks to dominate the nation in which it grows and, when in control, diminishes the rights of all who disagree.
Don’t think so? Is there a country controlled by Islamic militants that guarantees equal rights for all? Why are we allowing Muslim schools in this country to promote ideas that are seditious? Bishop Dolli knows better. Why don’t the rest of us, especially after Sept. 11?
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Michael,I am tired of hearing about Islam and punishments.. and cutting heads off.. and having sex with animals,I don’t want to hear about those corrupt and evil people,You are in America, or have you forgotten ?.
Also stop your preaching that it’s too late for this country,its not too late, America is a great country that has been through many crisis before and made it just fine..even better than before..I just don’t like your long post of nothing but islam and their evil behavior..and telling everyone that its over for America..because if you believe that you don’t know the America that I was born and raised in..
So give us all a break and try talking about something people want to hear..
@darcy922
So, you’re in complete denial and you can’t handle the truth. Your only response is that YOU don’t wanna hear it…. and that’s a big part of the problems in the country today, people don’t wanna hear what they can’t deal with. They want to live in their own little utopia and they don’t like anyone making waves interrupting their utopia. You are part of the recipe of the disaster that has destroyed the USA. Your thoughts typically follow humanist ideology and that is the road to self-destruction.
So, if you don’t like what I write, just skip over me, put me on ignore or whatever… maybe report me to the moderator and if he agrees, then I guess I would have no choice, as it’s his forum. So far I’m only guilty of telling the truth, it is up to each of you in how you deal with any truths. And it is better to deal with them now than to let them accumulate with one’s denials, which in the meantime, is only letting the lies predominate and expand, ever encroaching on the truths, rights and freedoms that we have left… Until eventually there will be nothing else left but everyone living their lives based on lies, which means freedom and truth no longer exists…
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
You seem to forget that more often than not, Islamic Extremists are used as examples of what islam stands for and it is not. Many ‘Christians’ have blown up compounds full of women and children because they thought it was Gods will. The IRA terrorists have killed thousands of innocent people. Just like in every religion or belief there are evil men willing to declare war, jihad, crusade, ect. for the sole purpose of gaining power. Catholics, Calvinists, and Lutherans have all had their fair share of war. These issues are rooted in the nonexistent boundary between religion and government in Islam… which isn’t much different than feudal medieval Europe for Christians. As for your claim that “There are many previous Popes from the Catholic Church” who believe Islam isn’t peaceful, yeah Urban II, Eugene III and other popes who launched the Crusades… Which brings me to another point. Before the Crusades Muslims, Jews, and Christians lived in the holy land, In Peace as long as they recognized the Islamic ruler and paid taxes. Islam recovered the art and knowledge that Rome left after its fall. Knowledge that began the Renaissance in Europe. Not the work of a Tyrannical civilization by any means. Btw more than half the ‘christians’ who are commenting on this incredibly biased article are saying we should stone, curse, discriminate against Muslims. Wheres your turn the other cheek belief. Early christian had actual stones thrown at them and they didn’t complain, these guys have parking lot gravel thrown at them and call it being ‘stoned’. So call it what it is… minor assault. Don’t try to pretend they were being discriminated against, they were ignored because they were being jerks. and don’t try to pretend like you aren’t an ignorant supremacist using religion to justify hatred. Look at the facts and the whole situation before condemning an entire group of people. I am a Catholic by what i do in my life, not ‘in name only’, that means i love and care for all other humans. You should try it sometime…
-Ben
@bpax
I’ve gotta step out for a couple of hours, but while I’m gone I’m giving you a chance to change and refine your statements a little.
You claimed Urban and Eugene as Popes against Islam, but that’s a misstatement. Matter of fact there have been so many Popes citing the atrocities and evils of Islam it would be easier to list the Popes that thought opposite, that Islam was indeed a religion of peace. So I ask, while I am gone; How about listing the Popes that were friendly towards Islam, thinking Islam was a peaceful religion? How about a few specific quotes from them showing their their belief in Islam’s peacefulness? (Not counting the last 4 Popes.) Shouldn’t be hard, go to it and prove what you claimed…
Michael- Deo Vindicabamur
No i wont..searching for a reliable quote from 150 years ago is impossible for 2 reasons
1. Popes were corupt very often
2. People like you will twist the true meaning into something that is far from what they actuall said.
But no legitamate pope would ever say a whole race is evil. Only question beliefs like Shariah laws. If you can find an in context example id be sure to debate with you. Also i would appreciate if you rebuttled my entire arguement and not just the straw man. if its possible for you to do so without sounding like a KKK or W.A.S.P. elitist
@bpax
Well well well…
We all know who the racist and strawman is here; don’t we, BPAX?
There weren’t any Popes who ever stated that Islam was a peaceful religion.
Actually all you’ve done is commit heresy against the Catholic Church with your remarks.
If you had wrote back something in the affirmative I was willing to debate it as well as address your other mis-statements in your last post. But whats the point, as you’ve shown yourself to be the strawman and villain here. You’re trying the age old Marxist concept of ad hominem personal attacks instead of directly addressing the subject. All this is simply to inflame and incite others by trying to instill a sense of fear unto them against your opponent. All this BS is straight from Karl Marx and his principles of indoctrination of the masses. This in itself tells me you’re the strawman here to sow discontent and not to help contribute to a rational debate of facts… One thing is for sure, you’re a Catholic in name only, IF you’re even a member of the the church….
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
there is a god. anything told to you by men is there own idea. the bible was written by men who clamed they did it at gods direction.god speaks to each individual if he will listen.your relation with god is with god and no one else. i have studied this all my life and i find that the American indian had a better understanding of god than anyone else i have found. that is until the white man corrupted him
I totally agree.
And to this very day, the American Indian is more religious and dignified
than any white man.. And more devoted…
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
You should try studing the Bible for once… and I suggest the book titled, “The Case for Christ,” or “The Case for Faith.” Some real truth would open your eyes…
I have a library of over 400 books, and I don’t mean the cheap stuff.
I have copies of books that was originally wrote hundreds of years ago.
Count my cheap books and I’ve got close to double the number above…
I’ve read the Bible through… Maybe you should try it…
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
You are not only ignorant, but you are very scary
Then I kindly suggest you show me where I am ignorant? (Ignorance can go 2 ways.)
As for scary, it’s not me you should be scared at.
You should be scared of what is about to befall you and your country.
I’m not about to protest anything in the streets or physically oppose anyone.
I personally don’t care what any of you do, because you’re gonna do it anyways…
But I am gonna show you where you are wrong and the price that is gonna be paid for you being wrong, and that includes the wrongs your ancestors did.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Mike , I am so sorry, that message was not for you it was meant for bpax. I don’t know how it got to you. Believe me, I have no problem with any of your comments. When bpax came out with “I am a Catholic ….. Islam is truly a TOLERANT and beautiful religion! Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same True God.”. I find that very scary, sorry for the mishap. I don’t blog alot, it was my mistake.
@xnylady
np, all is well… I did wonder why you would have said that to me.
But yes, bpax is scary to me also.
To allow those thoughts to have control over an entire society as law?
That’s scary….
He may have went to a Catholic School and claim to be Catholic, but that doesn’t mean that is what is really in his heart…. His actions does not justify what he claims…
Plus his attitude has disqualified him from any gentlemanly discussions with me.
There is still such a thing a Southern Gentleman, or at least some of those attributes are still left in me.
(And it can mean getting mad dawg mean if provoked in order to show honor of what one respects and holds dear.)
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
My Christian Brothers and Sisters, there are several fundemental problems here.
1. The Allah of Islam is a pagan Moon-god. (Google Allah)
2. Muhammad was a bigger fraud than Barack Obama.
3. Muhammad was a pedophile. When he was 50, he “married” a 6yo little named Alysha; he consummated the marriage when she was 9yo. (Google Muhammad).
4. Muslims face to the East to pray to a rock in Mecca. (Google Islam).
5. Muhammad got converts at the point of a sword. There were many Jewish and Christians martyrs.
9. Barack Obama is an illegal alien from Kenya.
10. The Democraps say, “So he’s illegal; so what?”
I’m a Vet, and I will take up arms with you. Have a blessed day.
Come on people.. wake up..you are falling right into the race baiting the left is trying to use…race against race..people against people….Now I am not a lover of terrorists..but only a small percentage of Muslims are terrorists.This function was a Muslim activity and most of the muslims there are Americans and have the right to gather..The street preacher and his group were there with an Agenda…The large posters and the camera’s..why the camera’s .I believe the street preacher and his group were there to start trouble to film it for propaganda reasons..He is the one who should be arrested.. I am a lover and defender of the constitution and believe ALL MEN ARE CREATED EAQUAL ( DEOPRESSO LIBER) TO LIBERATE THE OPPRESSED..
So you are saying that the people with signs are the ones that should be arrested..This is America remember ? We have a right to free speech here, as long as it’s peaceful..those people did nothing wrong and got attacked with stones and some were even injured.. and the foul language that they were yelling was totally disgusting, it was just a bunch of crazy muslims doing what they do best, which is fighting and throwing objects, I’m really surprised that they did not drag out their knives and start cutting their heads off..and to think these were just kids doing all this..,just think of how it would have been if the adults had gotten involved..If you do not believe in free speech you certainly are not a defender of the constitution or know anything else that is written in it..The reason those out of control muslims were not arrested in the first place, is because all the policemens were muslims,I even think the majority of the town is muslim that would really explain a lot here..When the American people are not allowed to speak freely or express themselves..
That is when America will be under communism, and that may very well be the direction we are headed for, under this administration..
“Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons…and they are coming to a neighborhood near you…
One large reason that Muslims will begin killing themselves is that there will be no one left to convert or kill. When they reach that point the different sects of Islam…mainly Sunnis and Shias will begin killing each other due to different interpretations of the Quran. It appears that the Muslims are not happy unless they are killing someone or attempting to kill them by throwing stones. It really does not seem to matter who it is but if it is a Jew or Christian all the much better for them. Americans, particularly white Americans have had about all of this that they can stand. There is going to be major trouble down the road but this is what Obama seems to want. He wants the country divided among every line that can be divided; Race, Religion, Wealth, Education, and even between North, South, East and West….any way he can divide us he will. We cannot stand another term of Obama in the Oval Office.
Peaceful Islam
“A man can have sex with animals such as sheep¹s, cows, camels and so on.
However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not
sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat
to the next door village should be fine.”
From Khomeini’s book, “Tahrirolvasyleh”, fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom,
Iran, 1990
and
Arab News
Saudi Arabia’s First English Language Daily
Jail and lashes for bestial teenager
By Saqar Al-Amry, Arab News Staff
JEDDAH, 5 August – A court in northern Saudi Arabia has sentenced a
Nigerian teenager to six months in jail and 240 lashes for having sex
with a camel.
Dr. Eisa Abdullah Al-Ghaith, a judge at a summary court in Tabuk, told
Arab News that the court found the 17-year-old boy guilty of “having
tried to have sexual relations with a camel.”
But the camel’s owner said the young Nigerian “got into his farm and
had sex” with the dromedary. The teenager was arrested by police while
he was trying to have sex with one of the camels.
The teenager confessed before the court that he intended to have sex
with the camel. Ghaith said the lashes will be administered in six
installments of 40 lashes each with an interval of seven days.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
What a bittersweet irony I do see here!
We have Muslims and the O/R(orthodox, reform) Jews fighting over the minds, hearts and souls of a group of people that Islam calls *Ifidels* and the Jews calls *Gentiles* and *Goyims*.
Islam wants our minds, hearts and souls to either convert or kill us, and the Jews simply wants to control us for their benefit and profit. Both Islam and Judaism are bitterly opposed to each other, and to the infidels and goyims they both look to for support!
I find it both humorous and ironic that both sides look to the same people so desperately for support, to the One side they both despise, and the lengths they go to, too prove their points and gain that support! And the true irony here, it all centers on a faith that both sides deny, yet attempt to use for their gain! (You figure that out?)
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
Here are but a few non-tolerance verses of the Koran..
NON Tolerance verses of the koran
Funny how people say the Enlish version is interpetting the Koran in correctly well i would say Bull puckie…. here are a few verses which we all need to read there are so many many more that we sould look at before letting one more mosque in the usa.
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax.”
Koran 9:29
This is what many of our enemies believe about the rest of the worlds population:
“Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191
“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123
“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5
“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85
“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.” Koran 9:30
“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33
“The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque.” Koran 9:28
“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19
“Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.” Koran 47:4
“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65
“Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28
“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12
“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
your right there are a lot of verses others need to read! like the ones that explain what the passages you listed mean. You look like an idiot when you do stuff like that. EVERYONE READ THE VERSES BEFORE AND AFTER THE ONES HE LISTED. IT GIVES IT A WHOLE NEW MEANING. DONT BUY INTO THIS GUY’S STUPIDITY. http://www.quranexplorer.com/Default.aspx
More from my personal research:
I am quoting (selectively) from there regarding ‘limits of fighting’:
“It also declares (in v. 40) that the war aim of the Muslims should be to
eliminate all unfavourable conditions for the establishment of Islam and
not to gain spoils.”
In my reading of the (English) translation of Quran (approved by the USC’s
MSA), the verses that spell out the conditions of war (Jihad) are (008:038),
(008:039) and (008:040). Clearly the aim of Islam is to establish a global
Dar-ul-Islam, as Osama bin Laden (and most likely) Prophet Mohammed wanted.
Quran suggests that this should be achieved even if violence needs to be
used. Furthermore one finds regarding limits of agression in Maudoodi’s
introduction stated as:
” The Muslims should always be prepared for war on every front, but should
be ready to make peace if the other party is inclined towards it.”
The two pieces (as I have quoted) makes the scenario very clear: Islam does
command its followers to wage war for spreading Islam (Jihad). However in
such a war if the non-Moslem party (infidels) offer truce, then such must
be accepted by Moslems. These are the boundaries set by Islam, at least
theoretically.
This is why some people view Islam as a *peaceful* religion.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
So this is what the supporters of the Muslim leader in our wh want for our country? If we dont vote him out, Sheria law will be on the books if not already. Dearborn Michigan needs to be dropped from the 50 states. Our flags should drop the Michigan star from the flag. I tried to find the speech that Ronald Reagan gave but couldnt find it, but he said if we loose our freedom, where will we go?! My heart aches for the Lord to come quickly.
cesca54,
You mean this speech?(It’s long..)
http://www.nationalcenter.org/ReaganChoosing1964.html
Michael- Deo Vindicabamur
Those *** RUG TOP – - SAND JOCKEYS *** need to find them selves on a slow baot aback to their home in the SAND.. We JOHN Q. PUBLIC don’t want them and their CRAZY LAW in this country.
I think it would serve everyone a lot of good to educate themselves. Here are a few links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
If you don’t know the only reason Islam exist is because they think Jesus came from the wrong blood line. This is indisputable. To stay that Islam came about for any other reason would be wrong.
“The Allah of Islam is a pagan Moon-god”… this statement is so false it scares me. Allah is a word in arabic meaning god. To Muslims Allah means one thing because there is one god. Pre-Isalm the word was used to refer to a god worshiped by Meccan pagans. That word is used in many different religions.
Also to say the Muslim god and the Christian god aren’t the same “person” or “entity” would be wrong. Judaism, Christianity, and Isalm all are religions based of Abraham. This is a fact. So if you say you hate the Muslims god you are hating your own god. They are the same thing.
The real problem is that people use religion as an excuse to hate. Or the real problem is religion IMO
The most ironic part of the intolerance on this page is Mike. You can believe whatever you want. I don’t care at all. Your business is yours and I have no reason to try to change your mind. I only post the following to show you the amount of killing in the Bible to help expand your knowledge.
Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication
A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, ‘Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,’ do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.’ You may wonder, ‘How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?’ If the prophet predicts something in the LORD’s name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God’s death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, ‘Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.’ (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’ (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
2) God’s Murders for Stupid Reasons:
Kill Brats
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead,” they shouted, “go up baldhead!” The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)
God Kills the Curious
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and’ fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)
Killed by a Lion
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, “Strike me!” But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, “Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me.” And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)
Killing the Good Samaritan
The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.
When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)
3) Murdering Children
Kill Sons of Sinners
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
God Will Kill Children
The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered.” O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don’t give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, “All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children.” (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)
Kill Men, Women, and Children
“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
God Kills all the First Born of Egypt
And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)
Kill Old Men and Young Women
“You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. “As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem,” says the LORD. “Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy,” says the LORD. “I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out,” says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)
(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)
God Will Kill the Children of Sinners
If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)
More Rape and Baby Killing
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
4) Miscellaneous Murders
More of Samson’s Murders
(The Lord saves Sampson from standing trial for 30 murders and arson by allowing him to kill 1000 more men.) When he reached Lehi, and the Philistines came shouting to meet him, the spirit of the Lord came upon him: the ropes around his arms become as flax that is consumed by fire and the bonds melted away from his hands. Near him was the fresh jawbone of an ass; he reached out, grasped it, and with it killed a thousand men. (Judges 15:14-15 NAB)
Peter Kills Two People
There was also a man named Ananias who, with his wife, Sapphira, sold some property. He brought part of the money to the apostles, but he claimed it was the full amount. His wife had agreed to this deception. Then Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart? You lied to the Holy Spirit, and you kept some of the money for yourself. The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished. And after selling it, the money was yours to give away. How could you do a thing like this? You weren’t lying to us but to God.” As soon as Ananias heard these words, he fell to the floor and died. Everyone who heard about it was terrified. Then some young men wrapped him in a sheet and took him out and buried him. About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. Peter asked her, “Was this the price you and your husband received for your land?” “Yes,” she replied, “that was the price.” And Peter said, “How could the two of you even think of doing a thing like this – conspiring together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Just outside that door are the young men who buried your husband, and they will carry you out, too.” Instantly, she fell to the floor and died. When the young men came in and saw that she was dead, they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. Great fear gripped the entire church and all others who heard what had happened. (Acts 5:1-11 NLT)
Mass Murder
This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: ‘I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.’ (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)
You Have to Kill
Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)
The Danites Kill the Next Town
But the territory of the Danites was too small for them; so the Danites marched up and attacked Leshem, which they captured and put to the sword. Once they had taken possession of Lesham, they renamed the settlement after their ancestor Dan. (Joshua 19:47 NAB)
God Kills Some More
Then the LORD said to me, “Even if Moses and Samuel stood before me pleading for these people, I wouldn’t help them. Away with them! Get them out of my sight! And if they say to you, ‘But where can we go?’ tell them, ‘This is what the LORD says: Those who are destined for death, to death; those who are destined for war, to war; those who are destined for famine, to famine; those who are destined for captivity, to captivity.’ “I will send four kinds of destroyers against them,” says the LORD. “I will send the sword to kill, the dogs to drag away, the vultures to devour, and the wild animals to finish up what is left. Because of the wicked things Manasseh son of Hezekiah, king of Judah, did in Jerusalem, I will make my people an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth.” (Jeremiah 15:1-4 NLT)
God Promises More Killing
I will make Mount Seir utterly desolate, killing off all who try to escape and any who return. I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)
The Angel of Death
My angel will go before you and bring you to the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites, and Jebusites; and I will wipe them out. (Exodus 23:23 NAB)
Destruction of Ai
Then the LORD said to Joshua, “Do not be afraid or discouraged. Take the entire army and attack Ai, for I have given to you the king of Ai, his people, his city, and his land. You will destroy them as you destroyed Jericho and its king. But this time you may keep the captured goods and the cattle for yourselves. Set an ambush behind the city.” So Joshua and the army of Israel set out to attack Ai. Joshua chose thirty thousand fighting men and sent them out at night with these orders: “Hide in ambush close behind the city and be ready for action. When our main army attacks, the men of Ai will come out to fight as they did before, and we will run away from them. We will let them chase us until they have all left the city. For they will say, ‘The Israelites are running away from us as they did before.’ Then you will jump up from your ambush and take possession of the city, for the LORD your God will give it to you. Set the city on fire, as the LORD has commanded. You have your orders.” So they left that night and lay in ambush between Bethel and the west side of Ai. But Joshua remained among the people in the camp that night.
Early the next morning Joshua roused his men and started toward Ai, accompanied by the leaders of Israel. They camped on the north side of Ai, with a valley between them and the city. That night Joshua sent five thousand men to lie in ambush between Bethel and Ai, on the west side of the city. So they stationed the main army north of the city and the ambush west of the city. Joshua himself spent that night in the valley. When the king of Ai saw the Israelites across the valley, he and all his army hurriedly went out early the next morning and attacked the Israelites at a place overlooking the Jordan Valley. But he didn’t realize there was an ambush behind the city. Joshua and the Israelite army fled toward the wilderness as though they were badly beaten, and all the men in the city were called out to chase after them. In this way, they were lured away from the city. There was not a man left in Ai or Bethel who did not chase after the Israelites, and the city was left wide open.
Then the LORD said to Joshua, “Point your spear toward Ai, for I will give you the city.” Joshua did as he was commanded. As soon as Joshua gave the signal, the men in ambush jumped up and poured into the city. They quickly captured it and set it on fire. When the men of Ai looked behind them, smoke from the city was filling the sky, and they had nowhere to go. For the Israelites who had fled in the direction of the wilderness now turned on their pursuers. When Joshua and the other Israelites saw that the ambush had succeeded and that smoke was rising from the city, they turned and attacked the men of Ai. Then the Israelites who were inside the city came out and started killing the enemy from the rear. So the men of Ai were caught in a trap, and all of them died. Not a single person survived or escaped. Only the king of Ai was taken alive and brought to Joshua.
When the Israelite army finished killing all the men outside the city, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai was wiped out that day – twelve thousand in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. Only the cattle and the treasures of the city were not destroyed, for the Israelites kept these for themselves, as the LORD had commanded Joshua. So Ai became a permanent mound of ruins, desolate to this very day. Joshua hung the king of Ai on a tree and left him there until evening. At sunset the Israelites took down the body and threw it in front of the city gate. They piled a great heap of stones over him that can still be seen today. (Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)
Killing at Jericho
When the people heard the sound of the horns, they shouted as loud as they could. Suddenly, the walls of Jericho collapsed, and the Israelites charged straight into the city from every side and captured it. They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)
God Kills an Extended Family
“You have done more evil than all who lived before you. You have made other gods and have made me furious with your gold calves. And since you have turned your back on me, I will bring disaster on your dynasty and kill all your sons, slave or free alike. I will burn up your royal dynasty as one burns up trash until it is all gone. I, the LORD, vow that the members of your family who die in the city will be eaten by dogs, and those who die in the field will be eaten by vultures.’” Then Ahijah said to Jeroboam’s wife, “Go on home, and when you enter the city, the child will die. All Israel will mourn for him and bury him. He is the only member of your family who will have a proper burial, for this child is the only good thing that the LORD, the God of Israel, sees in the entire family of Jeroboam. And the LORD will raise up a king over Israel who will destroy the family of Jeroboam. This will happen today, even now! Then the LORD will shake Israel like a reed whipped about in a stream. He will uproot the people of Israel from this good land that he gave their ancestors and will scatter them beyond the Euphrates River, for they have angered the LORD by worshiping Asherah poles. He will abandon Israel because Jeroboam sinned and made all of Israel sin along with him.” (1 Kings 14:9-16 NLT)
Mass Murder
The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon. Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon. (Judges 20:48 NAB)
The Angel of Death
That night the angel of the Lord went forth and struck down one hundred and eighty five thousand men in the Assyrian camp. Early the next morning, there they were, all the corpuses of the dead. (2 Kings 19:35 NAB)
Kill Your Neighbors
(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, “All of you who are on the LORD’s side, come over here and join me.” And all the Levites came. He told them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors.” The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, “Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing.” (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)
Kill the Family of Sinners
And Joshua said to Achan, My son, give, I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of Israel, and make confession to him; and tell me now what thou hast done, hide it not from me. And Achan answered Joshua, and said, Indeed I have sinned against the LORD God of Israel, and thus and thus have I done. When I saw among the spoils a goodly Babylonish garment, and two hundred shekels of silver, and a wedge of gold of fifty shekels weight, then I coveted them, and took them, and behold, they are hid in the earth in the midst of my tent, and the silver under it.” [Note that the sin is not looting, but failing to give the loot to the treasury of the Lord.] “So Joshua sent messengers, and they ran to the tent, and behold, it was hid in his tent, and the silver under it. And they took them from the midst of the tent, and brought them to Joshua, and to all the children of Israel, and laid them out before the LORD. And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah, and the silver, and the garment, and the wedge of gold, and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and his tent, and all that he had: and they brought them to the valley of Achor. And Joshua said, why hast thou troubled us? the LORD shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. And they raised over him a great heap of stones to this day. So the LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger: wherefore the name of that place was called the valley of Achor to this day. (Joshua 7:19-26 Webster’s Bible)
Kill Followers of Other Religions
While the Israelites were camped at Acacia, some of the men defiled themselves by sleeping with the local Moabite women. These women invited them to attend sacrifices to their gods, and soon the Israelites were feasting with them and worshiping the gods of Moab. Before long Israel was joining in the worship of Baal of Peor, causing the LORD’s anger to blaze against his people. The LORD issued the following command to Moses: “Seize all the ringleaders and execute them before the LORD in broad daylight, so his fierce anger will turn away from the people of Israel.” So Moses ordered Israel’s judges to execute everyone who had joined in worshiping Baal of Peor. Just then one of the Israelite men brought a Midianite woman into the camp, right before the eyes of Moses and all the people, as they were weeping at the entrance of the Tabernacle. When Phinehas son of Eleazar and grandson of Aaron the priest saw this, he jumped up and left the assembly. Then he took a spear and rushed after the man into his tent. Phinehas thrust the spear all the way through the man’s body and into the woman’s stomach. So the plague against the Israelites was stopped, but not before 24,000 people had died. (Numbers 25:1-9 NLT)
Murder
At the customary time for offering the evening sacrifice, Elijah the prophet walked up to the altar and prayed, “O LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, prove today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant. Prove that I have done all this at your command. O LORD, answer me! Answer me so these people will know that you, O LORD, are God and that you have brought them back to yourself.” Immediately the fire of the LORD flashed down from heaven and burned up the young bull, the wood, the stones, and the dust. It even licked up all the water in the ditch! And when the people saw it, they fell on their faces and cried out, “The LORD is God! The LORD is God!” Then Elijah commanded, “Seize all the prophets of Baal. Don’t let a single one escape!” So the people seized them all, and Elijah took them down to the Kishon Valley and killed them there. (1 Kings 18:36-40 NLT)
Kill All of Babylon
“Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you,” says the LORD. “Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction”. (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)
Micah Kills a Whole Town
Then, with Micah’s idols and his priest, the men of Dan came to the town of Laish, whose people were peaceful and secure. They attacked and killed all the people and burned the town to the ground. There was no one to rescue the residents of the town, for they lived a great distance from Sidon and had no allies nearby. This happened in the valley near Beth-rehob.Then the people of the tribe of Dan rebuilt the town and lived there. They renamed the town Dan after their ancestor, Israel’s son, but it had originally been called Laish. (Judges 18:27-29 NLT) (Note that God approves of this slaughter in verse 6.)
Well, you’ve made some good points, but…..
Most of what you write concerning the killing comes from the Old Testament and that was written for the Jews. Mind you the Jews still practice much of what is written there, but the “Reformed” movements of Judaism has made many changes in those verses regarding how they treat the goyims as well as their own kind. This is because the Jews have NEVER accepted Christ or the New Testament.
In the NT Jesus done away with the Law and the Covenant with the Jews, but Jews today does not accept this. The New Testament actually tells us to be at peace with all men as much as lies within you. For some people that would be a lot of, *turning the other cheek* so-to-speak. While with others that would mean no tolerance for many things. the point form this being, the case can be made that people acts both ways. Some are quick to react and have little tolerance of others who don’t follow a similar path as they, while others will permit most anything. Now we are back to square one with people claiming both, just as you claim the tolerance side.
Everything has its’ limits, even tolerant people are NOT so tolerant about a lot of things, just like you are not overly tolerant of what I believe and have to say. Matter of fact you’d probably wish I would not post and just go ahead so this problem wouldn’t loom so large here. I am tolerant of most anything if kept in its’ proper perspective. Muslims do not belong here, plain and simple. Their religion is not only far removed from anything Western or Christian, it actually opposes any other religion unless they submit to the power of Islam first. I’ve posted the CIA article of what happens as an Islamic population is introduced and grows in another country, and this does not need to happen here. Let Muslims stay in their own lands if they wish to practice such a harsh and different religion, as it runs contrary to all Western Philosophy.
Something that hasn’t been mentioned is the fact that Islam is not only a religion, but it is also an economic, political and judicial system. The final result of Islam being all government, all economies and all religion must ultimately answer to Islam and those men who claim the power to control it. Again this runs counter to ALL philosophies of the Western World. The two systems cannot operate peacefully together, as Islam is so much more than a religion. It is actually a political system and economic system system wrapped in what is delivered as a religion. This is why we see the push for sharia law in places such as Michigan today, as well as in other countries.
Again as for tolerance, I’m as tolerant as people will let me be. Rock the boat as the Muslims are doing and yes I am as intolerant as the next person… Otherwise they should submit to the laws of the land (what few there are left) and follow their host’s lead in being a good example of trying to be an acceptable people. Or as the old saying goes, “When in Rome do as the Romans do…”
Michael- Deo Vindicabamur
Mike360000: Jesus did not do away with God’s Law, Jesus fulfilled the Law. He was the only One that could fulfill the Law being that He was the only One that has not sinned.
If a person refuses to accept Christ, then this person will be judged by God’s Law and we know that no man can be saved by His Law. God’s Covenant with the Jew has not been broken, it is just as active and in tact as it ever was. True the Jewish people have not held it up for if they had they would have accepted Christ…. But there is coming a day and soon that all of God’s promises them will be fulfilled…. If that were not to happen than how can you trust any of His promises…
Most Christians fail to read the Bible through, they only read what they like to hear or what makes them feel good. They have very little understanding of the truth of God’s WORD. True godly wisdom comes from reading through all of the Bible, over and over every year. I am not a smart man but what I write about God’s Judgment for America I do know. God has never allowed a destruction of a people or nation that He has not first given them a warning of what was coming. Amos 3:7
Read Matthew 21:19 through end of chapter.
It is the parable of the fig tree.
And there were other parables in those verses.
Do you know what they represent?
It the voiding of the Covenant with Israel.
Other parables deals with it’s justification of being voided and His authority to do so.
Michael- Deo Vindicabamur
I am tolerant of what you believe. I don’t want to change your belief. That isn’t my business, but I do want to discuss with you both of our opinions. I have no beliefs only ideas and opinions. My ideas can change, but a belief can’t. I just want to expand my knowledge by listening to other people talk. A wise man listens before he talks.
“Something that hasn’t been mentioned is the fact that Islam is not only a religion, but it is also an economic, political and judicial system. ” – you stated
But there are example of Christianity influencing politics, the economy, and judicial system:
The Gregorian Calendar
Not working on Saturday and Sunday (Holy Days for Jews and Christians)
“In God We Trust”
The National Day of Prayer (36 U.S.C. § 119)
one nation under God-the pledge
The holy roman empire
The crusades-(had more of a geopolitical effect)
Byzantine Empire
Hitler
The KKK
The Church of England
Jerusalem ( has been fought over by the big three for idk how long)
Keeping gay-marriage illegal
Rick Santorum wanting to make masturbation illegal
The Great Schism
I could go on all day but that was just off the top of my head.
Saudi Arabian money doesn’t say allah on it.
Do you dislike anyone that doesn’t follow Western Philosophy? I don’t think Jews follow Western Philosophy. They clearly have a book with radical backwards thinking in it. I just cited many example of this. And how can a Jew “reform” his or her religion. Its the word of God plan and simple. They use the lame stream media to promote Jewish propaganda. They have one God. They don’t think Jesus was the Son of God. They have strict dietary laws. Abraham is the father of the religion. Their holy book has many example of hate and violence. Do you dislike Jews? How are Jews different from Muslims. I would even say that Jews have more in common with Muslims than with Christians.
Do you dislike Hindus and Buddhist who follow Eastern Philosophy?
Do you dislike Catholics (who should be reading the Old Testament)?
As a snap judgement I think you are against violence not against Muslims. I think you use Islam to generalize a group of people that are violent in the eyes of many Americans. I think you dislike people that aren’t like you. I think you are probably a good person. I have no reason to assume otherwise. Your argument has holes, just as my argument has holes. My problem is not that you hate or dislike Muslims. My problem is that hating someone because they are a different religion is the same thing as them hating you because of your religion. I read someone say the only good muslim is a dead one, or they all need a bullet in the head. How is killing a Muslim different than killing a Christian? No matter the side the person doing the killing is going to think their actions are justified. Religion is only a tool now a days used to justify people’s actions. Its a social tool. Why is it that free thinking people don’t believe in God? Organized religion is a shackle. Some people aren’t strong enough to break the shackle.
there is a god but organized religion has corrupted the knowledge for power and profit
Stephen,
You’ve written two extremely long posts, of which you are ONLY asking questions with barely enuff statements to finish your writing. Then you pose your questions in such a way as indirectly accuse me of being violent or at least hating.
So I’ll turn right around and ask you; Do you even the definition for the word “hate”?
YOU hate a lot of things and probably don’t realize it.
As humans we all hate certain things. It is human nature, believe it or not.
As such, I hate things also. I can love my enemy but hate his ways.
Does that mean I should be forced to live beside him?
Does that mean I should give up my right, say, in protesting his detestable ways
so he can have speech over mine?
btw- *Reform* Jews; Know the meaning for the term reform? Simply means changed…
They are NOT following the Old Covenant with God and they have changed the meaning and understanding of verses that originally was meant to infer something else. Not only that they have included books, since the death of Christ which in fact helps them explain and address some of the Scriptures that Christ taught. (You should be more than knowledgeable to look these books and redefined meanings up for yourself. I’m not your student.)
It’s not the fact of hating anybody. It’s the fact of being made to accept something or someone that is so different and so ideological opposed to my(or another’s) way of thinking, that such people do in fact pose a risk to the society and system on which it is based. Islam is a religion that IS that different. Some people ONLY respect power and force and Muslims are one such group. They look at your form of government as being weak and fallible compared to their own. You are nothing more than ignorant prey for them. Don’t believe it? Look and reference all the countries they’ve been able to build noteable numbers in so far. (reference my CIA article for just one cite).
Finally Jesus Christ contributed as much and more to the definement and establishment of Western Philosophy as did any one person. Of course it was through faith and religion, but that includes the basis of moral law as well as the sovereignty and rights of man when applied through proper government. NOT that such a religion forces itself upon people as a government or economic system. Try reading the Jeffersonian Bible, by Thomas Jefferson.
Michael- Deo Vindicabamur
I said earlier that I was tolerant of your ideas. I stand by that. I use tolerance as a word to mean accept that your ideas are different than mine. You have the right think whatever you want. I ask questions to invoke thought.
On a side note I hate everyone. Point blank. I just hate everyone. I wish the world had no people.
I forgot many states in the US allow you to have sex with your farm animal. Its call Zoophilla and its is legal in Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Oregon, South Dakota, TEXAS, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia and Wyoming. Its also legal in many cities, I know in Clawson, Michigan there is a law that makes it LEGAL for a farmer to sleep with his pigs, cows, horses, goats, and chickens.
It all depends on how officials wants to interpret the laws. Such cases could also be considered animal abuse/neglect, sodomy, crimes against nature and other lesser statues cover such things, IF they looking for charges. It all depends on the wording and mood of the moment, case, and other variables. A better or another way to justify bestiality is by looking at which states which specifically state it is acceptable.(according to state law.)
Michael- Deo Vindicabamur
Send their A**’s back to their Akbar Country.
@Mike360000
Your logic makes no sense i am saying you only attack my weakest point ‘strawman’. Im not playing your ‘wade through the B.S.’ game. Questioning the church is no heresy any smart Catholic should its healthy but you wouldnt know about that. I dont respect you or what you believe my ‘ ad hominem’ is not a fallacy but actually part of the debate. Your racist attitude is very important in this discussion. Dont fool yourself into to thinking your winning either you havent provided on true statement AT ALL. So id like you to tell me how your better than me and all the honest Muslims you are critisizing. Do you think heaven is only for you?! Your probly in for a suprise! Again i am Catholic my confirmation name is Francis, i attended catholic shchool my whole life however even if i didnt it doesnt matter. Im a decent man defending innocent people against indecent people
@bpax,
According to the Catholic Church “solo scripturing” is not acceptable. Meaning interpretation is NOT for the individual to decide. This belongs to church policy and all Scripture must be acceptable to the church as to how one understands and acknowledges it. To do otherwise is only another form of blasphemy, of which you have already committed others. Any knowledgeable Catholic is aware of the practice of Solo Scripturing and the church’s policy against it. Your statement only shows your ignorance of the Catholic Church and at this point I highly doubt you’re even a member. Using the Muslim’s own website and their “public” statements concerning the subject of Islam being peaceful only shows how little you really know or care about the Catholic Church. It can even show your disdain for the Catholic Church. All of which supports and shows your strawman position. At this point to me you look like a complete fraud… Let the people decide who the fraud is…
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
I havent interpereted any of the Churches teachings nor have i shown disdain, everone know the church has made mistakes remember galileio, inquisition? Pope benedict today will even admit that corruption plauged the Church trougout history and thats all I said. and now back on topic and You still didn’t answer my question. What makes you right, superior, better than any other man? Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu doesnt matter what race or religion… tell me what give YOU the right to tell ANYONE you are better than them. Only God will judge! he doesn’t need you or your demons doing it for him. People like you are whats wrong with this world. get the splinter out of yur eye before trying to help others get theirs
I am right from the standpoint that, I am wrong until someone tries to tell they are right and then try and force me to accept and live by their standards a morals of what *they* claim is right.
I know you didn’t think me claiming I was wrong made any sense, so…..
I don’t try and force myself on anyone. I would rather hold my thoughts to myself and just with my own kind, respecting others who respects me NOT being critical of them. So, if I am wrong, I have no one to blame but myself… BUT life doesn’t work that way as people wants the influence and power to control other people in many many different ways. From taxes to living to what we eat and drink to what we do in private, people wants it controlled. Same applies to religion, regardless if that faith or religion is atheist or Christian or Muslim.
Once, the very FIRST time one tells me I am wrong over something, I’m gonna start questioning them as to why I am wrong. And then I am gonna point out how they are just as wrong as me, if not more so. It was me who minding my own business while I am being told everything I do is wrong. Yet upon examination I find it is the people accusing me that are the hypocrites, actually wanting something for themselves. Whatever happened to the old saying, “Live and let live?”
If enough people doesn’t want muslims around them, then so be it, they should not be forced to accept what runs contrary to their judgement. Let the muslims look and find them a place where they would be accepted, and if they can’t, then that simply means too few people like them or will tolerate them enough to wish to be around them. That in itself should cause the muslims to stop and think and ask; WHY don’t people want us around? But they already know the answer to that question. An answer you have yet to learn and understand! (It’s not intolerance as there is a reason for what you see as intolerance. It is their culture, heritage, ideology, philosophy and their whole way of life that runs counter to that of anything from the Western Civilasation that makes others intolerant of them. It’s simply a whole nother way of life.)
Michael- Deo Vindicabamur
What you described seem like some form of moral relativism.. The problem is that doesnt work in the real world. If a muslim chooses to live among Christians he has the right to. despite what those around him say. it is a basic human right. A group of people can hate without a good reason so The muslim shouldnt have to think whats wrong with them. So it really doesnt matter what any of you think. You can interperet their beliefs however you want just dont parade it around the internet as truth. Its offensive and wrong and has no base in fact.
“Do you think heaven is only for you?”
It is for whomever God says it’s for.
While man *may* think heaven is or is not for him, man is NOT the judge!
Not even for his own soul!
You’re still no real Catholic… Doesn’t matter what credentials one presents.
What matters is the testimony that defines your real life while on this planet.
Michael- Deo Vindicabamur
You just repeated what i said to you in the last post moron. Answer the other D*** question you spineless bastard
You deserve NO further answers or explanations. You’re only a strawman wanting to cause animosity among others here. Your demeanor and attitude proves that. Your language and arrogant attitude also proves that. You’re not gentleman enuff for me to offer you any further explanations. Uncivilized is an understatement. You are a fraud…. g’day
Michael- Deo Vindicabamur
So you can’t… your the fraud.. i only give respect to people who deserve it. Dont confuse passion with arrogance either.
This clearly demonstrates that progressives and libtards are colaborating to bring this nation down, elevating Islam, down playing Christianity. Yet this is not considered a “hate crime” that they are allowed to behave this way. When the shoe is on the other foot for the Christian, it’s threats and intimidation, jail time, and more.
Aha…. I didn’t think about the “hate crime” aspect.
So, where ARE all those defenders of hate crime law?
*crickets*
I suppose Caucasian Christian Males aren’t on the approved “Victims List”.
Winchester bullets hit a hell of alot harder than rocks and urine
Here is an interesting logic problem:
Jesus is Jewish
Jesus is God then
God is Jewish since
God is infallible
God can’t be wrong to be Jewish so
Jewish is the only True religion and since
Any change in original Jewish is a construct of society then
Orthodox Judaism is the Only Form of True Religion
Ignorance in the interpretation of the scriptures will earn no man any credits with God… That is why it is said wisdom come from reading and study His WORD…. meaning all of the Bible and not just a few verse that pleases your heart.
Steven,
True, except:
What if God changes the rules?
If God is ALL powerful and can do anything; Can He not change the rules?
Would He not already know that He was gonna change the rules LONG before
He changed them?
If the above be true; Then how are mortal humans to understand the changes?
(How would God change the rules in such a way so man could understand them..
Note this understanding would only apply to those men God knew were to be His.)
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
If God knows he is going to change the rules, why would he make a rule that is going to be changed later. Its like wiping before you poop.
One doesn’t question WHY God does/changes anything. He does it of His own Will and Counsel. People has to figure out why for themselves, IF they think it is possible.
That’s a way of separating believers from non-believers.
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
You have convinced me I’m wrong. I apologize for offending you. You are strong in your beliefs and I respect that. I see that you are right. Jesus said treat others how you would like to be treated and I say if anyone wants put a bullet in a Muslims head they must put a bullet in their own head as well
It’s NOT that I am right…
It’s just that YOU are that wrong!
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
It’s very simple, really. Obviously the city of Dearborn lacks the resources to protect the rights and safety of ALL festival-goers; therefore, it should no longer allow the festival to take place.
I have to agree with that. If you can’t do the job right, don’t do it at all! Supposedly all cities are cutting back. My city just requested some police Volunteers. That has nothing to do with these police deliberate attitude to allow these Muslims/Islamists to incite, and bring violence to a rally/picnic/yard sale whatever! They pitted muslims/islamist against peacful Christian Americans. Where I came form that is showing who you really are
Yup. And when the festival is no longer permitted, the attackers will have no one to blame but themselves.
What I would like to know is, where is the ACLU? Apparently they have enough time on their hands that they can defend the “right” of the KKK to pick up trash on the side of Georgia Highways. Surely they could spare a thought for the rights of peaceful Christians to WALK DOWN A PUBLIC STREET!!!
Contrast the peaceful behavior of this Christian group with the despicable actions of the “Occupy” protesters. “Occupy” was praised far and wide by liberal politicians and the media for protesting…. well, God only knows what. The Christians are peacefully standing up for their FREEDOM of SPEECH– one of the basic tenets of this republic!!!!
Peach,
I’ve read most all your posts and I have enjoyed them, ty.
However you stated protests as being a tenet of the “Republic”.
While I would agree it is a tenet of the Republican form of government that used to be the USA, please understand the USA is NO longer a republic! It hasn’t been a Republic in about 150 years. The USA now is a Federal Democratic Union.
Abraham Lincoln said it himself, “In saving the union I have destroyed the Republic.”
And he was right…
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
*sigh*
I wish I could argue with you on that point….. But I’m afraid you have more evidence on your side.
Well Peach, it should be obvious, since this country is no a republic, that such things happening as in the article is understandable. That you cannot have fair and honest laws if you do not have fair and honest government. But this still doesn’t address the problem of how to address such or similar issues in the future. And this is what will continue to destroy the decent people of this country. (Country is already destroyed.) Sadly I see no recourse except more and worse mayhem. Good people should let this be a lesson to them that this is what happens when you have a real democratic process. It’s called mobocracy.. This is EXACTLY what Lincoln instituted by his war that destroyed the republic, and the whole republican party is just as guilty and more so. For up to the election of FDR the Republican was the progressive/liberal party that pushed for reforms that enhanced and fully implemented the democratic process. It was the Democrats who saw the effectiveness of this as a political instrument, so much so that they had no choice but to change from their conservative ideology and do likewise. The first democrat president to do so was Woodrow Wilson but it really took off under FDR, the Democrat Party evolving into a purely Marxist political movement by the time of President Carter.
Today you have two parties, Socialist Party A and Marxist Party B, both promising to further empower the masses at the masses expense. (Empower the masses from the public largess at the expense of their liberties.) Only the large corporations benefits from this as they don’t qualify and retain the power to influence politicians with their money. Which is why we always see the large corporations benefiting more than people. ESPECIALLY the bankers.
I see no end to this until a real civil war breaks out, which for all practical purposes is the continuation of the first war, Lincoln’s War….
Michael– Deo Vindicabamur
According to the Pew Research Center, 65% of Muslim American citizens are foreign-born.
Just today I was looking at a sampling of questions on the “citizenship exam”. The questions are very softball… Mainly some history facts and government trivia. Nothing that would help someone understand the the foundations of our liberty.
Is it any wonder that the fool in the video (the one who says he is from Iraq) shouting about “his rights” does not comprehend the idea that his rights are no more and no less than the Christians who are being assaulted?
What do you suppose would happen if a “Gay Pride” group wearing rainbow shirts and carrying signs were to enter that festival?
How about a pair of men just holding hands and kissing? Would they be safe?
How about a Christian family that was not carrying signs or making any attempt to “evangelize”. I doubt very seriously that they would be safe in that crowd.
What the city of Dearborn has failed to recognize is that when you allow the rights of one group to be infringed upon, EVERYONE’S rights are in danger.
They are NOT WANTED HERE. We do NOT WANT nor will we ever embrace Islam. I am a Christian and believe in Jesus Christ. You don’t like it TOUGH. Wake up America. Do you want to be muslin worshiping Allah? NO, then let’s get that SOCIALIST out of office. VOTE AMERICAN not socialism
BO recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), BO described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
Well, if he wasn’t a Muslim before, he is now. Or, I should say, Muslims would consider him a Muslim, for having said that prayer.
One has to wonder if this might be some of the most momentous and horrendous news ever reported on the American scene.
BO is committed to only one objective. He desires to move America to socialism, and he will sacrifice himself to make progress in the dialectic struggle of history. At his core, BO isn’t a Christian or a Muslim (MUSLIMS think he is). He isn’t a pacifist. He isn’t even a lightweight over his head. At his core, BO is a Socialist. Marxism is his religion.
UNITED STATES MILITIA CAN REFUSE TO OBEY THE ORDERS OF A PRESIDENT IF HE IS UNABLE TO PROVE HIS PRESIDENTIAL QUALIFICATIONS AS WELL AS ARRESTING AND REMOVING HIM FROM OFFICE.
Are these muslims allowed to have “festivals” in their own countries? I doubt it. They have a cheek, that they are throwing stones at Chistians. These muslims are busy killing Christians (en masse) in muslim countries. Wnat do they say, a tooth for a tooth!