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Allen West: Obama’s Passport Travel Records
June 24, 2011 by 117 Comments
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Thats a good one ,now tell the joint chiefs to tell the secret service and military to get the traitor obama out of the whitehouse.The Key To Jihad Money citizenwarrior website
I agree with that. The secret service is just going to sit on their hands and watch this traitor imposter destroy this country. I am all for the military doing a coup and taking over while they investigate his back ground and eligibility. He needs to be removed from office….
Bob Velon your post is one of the most intelligent ones that i have read. Simple & to the point with a logical course of action to be taken.Wwe need you in congress so to apply your common sense answers to our problems.
This is one of the best questions anyone has asked yet…why aren't the rest in D.C. asking the same question???
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE BALLS!!!!!!!!!!!
You mean, balls to face a riot of Blacks?
If that be the case so be it… That is why they have the National Guard, the police and military for. If the malcontents want to stroll from the ghetto and take a chance on catching a bullet so be it.. Let them bring it on… It is time they grew up, the world doesn't revolve around them on the Chimp who is sitting illegaly in the oval office…Pay your dime and dance.. Lest they forget, we're armed also!!!!
I don't mind. Do they?
Even more so:
Wouldn't it be great when, after they start screeching that we are "racists", we vote for Allen West?
I'd vote for Allen West in a heartbeat…It appears this administration screems racist at anyone who does not like Obama's agenda or policies…The biggest racist is sitting in the oval office…. I'm not a racist and if they would not the entitilement chip off their shoulders we could all get along…..
The same here: I like Allen West and would vote for him, if he runs.
As fro real racists, besides the one in the WH – al-Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and Charlie Rangel (if not to mention the so-called "reverend" Wright)
By the way, do you know who are those idiots who rate you with pluses and me – with minuses, even though you and I seem to be in the same boat?
I mean, Allen who is a real honest and decent Black, not like that fake in the WH
West, Keyes, Cain, Walter Williams- all good VP possibles. A winning candidate for president has to emerge. Republicans keep calling me for campaign contributions. Get your act together and I'll skip meals to support the Party. Otherwise, get lost.
Yes, they are the ones who are viewing what we post…. It shows they just don't like the subject matter…. Who cares these are our views if they like they can comment or just go away……
Constantine your initial comment was misunderstood i believe by many here. Personally i liked all of your post. Just curious are you from Russia?
That's easy. According to the FBI, it might insite "Black Backlash". Hey, Allen West is an African AMERICAN, whereas the "Resident" in the white house is only AFRICAN as far as we know – or possibly Indonesian – take you pick. Either way he is NOT ELIGIBLE to hold the office under that "fundamentally flawed document" a/k/a The Constitution, Art. 1, Sec. 2.
Beneath his mild exterior Allen knows his stuff. I ask, why don't you ask that of Obama now? While your at it ask him who is behind the chem-trail spraying and why is this being done.
From the smile on his face..it was like "are you kidding me, I have plenty of questions" LOL..It's hard to pick out just one question to ask such a Liar like obamass…of course you would never get the truth..LOL
Off hand I would say the one with his real name, Barry Soetoro, on it. The year he traveled to Pakistan the United States was not issuing visas to our citizens to travel there.
Thank You Honorable Allen West….that was an excellent question. I hope you will be able to meet with Obama soon and ask him that question. I'm sure we would like to know his reaction.
His answers would be Lie,Lie,Lie! As he has done his whole life!
He and his hateful wife will burn in hell!
I WONDER IF OBOMA HAS TO SUMMIT HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, SCHOOL RECORDS,HEALTH RECORDS FROM SCHOOL SHOTS, 2 PICTURED .PHOTOS I. D.S, SOC. SECURITY NUMBER FOR THE NEW NATIONAL I.D. CARD TO GET HIE NEW DRIVERS LICENCE!! JUST ASKING
barry would just smile and say.. "None of your business." The reason: I believe there are too many people in Congress who have been bought, blackmailed, or theathened!!!
The big money foreign investors will do and spend whatever it takes to keep him in office!!!
This ought to send the backwatch expert racist AG Holder into a rage, were I West I would plan on a sneak attack and make plans to retaliate and expose Holder also for obstruction of justice on several counts. break the back of Holder and the tower falls, there is no one who will not rat the Mystery Man out once the threat of prosecution is lessened.
I've been saying this for years. You have to understand, there's nothing particularly secret about the information in a passport. It contains your name, nationality, date and place of birth – and that's about it, save for the passport ID, date of issue, and date of expiration. It doesn't contain Social Security info, banking info – not even your home address (unless you penciled it in yourself, in the space provided). Apart from that basic info, the only thing you'll find are stamps and visas from the countries you've visited. So, virtually every bit of info in passport, is info that he's already revealed in his speeches and writings – he cannot pretend there is some "privacy issue" here.
You should also understand, that when you travel, you'll need to produce your passport again and again – at immigration, certainly, but also to check into a hotel, to cash a traveler's check, to exchange currency, to rent a car or motorcycle, to obtain service at a hospital, to rent beach equipment, and possibly, just because some policeman is curious about what you're doing on his beat. Yet, after having shown it to all of these people – Obama refuses to show it to Americans, in what can only be described as a clear and deliberate gesture of contempt.
You should also keep in mind that this same man revealed to our enemies the exact nature and scope of previously secret CIA interrogation techniques, giving them the opportunity to train specifically for American capture. He has revealed to our enemies the exact size and strength of our nuclear arsenal – yet, his passport remains TOP SECRET. Think about that for a bit.
But Americans weren't allowed to go to Pakastan when he said he went, so if he did, HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN. That's the point, he couldn't go if he was. Which we all know he isn't. That's why they want to see the passport.
"Americans weren't allowed to go to Pakastan when he said he went"
Wrong. You're simply regurgitating another birther myth.
Shut up, James.
Sorry–I know how you hate it when I complicate an issue with facts.
Any citation for this "fact" James?
I realize that it's an unusual step for the American government to forbid it's citizens to travel anywhere – but I also realize, it's not at all uncommon for foreign governments to forbid entry to foreign travelers with certain passports. And Pakistan isn't exactly the usual tourist destination.
The New York Times ran a travel article recommending visiting Pakistan in 1981. It would be very unusual to run such an article if Pakistan were on a "no travel list" or if Pakistan barred US tourists from visiting. Pakistan International Airlines had an office on Fifth Avenue in New York in 1981, from which I remember, it distributed travel brochures, and it flew from New York's JFK Airport via London to Karachi.
The US State Department would not have put it out if the US barred US citizens from going to Pakistan, and the 3-day visas show that Pakistan was willing, even eager, to have US tourists
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/02/11…
A travel article recommending visiting Lahore, Pakistan in 1981
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/travel/lahore-a…
A letter to the New York Times in 1981 by the US Consul in Lahore, recommending visiting and giving travel advice:
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/23/travel/l-lahore…
JaNe McPherson what facts? Your nose is growing!
The US State Department would not have put it out if the US barred US citizens from going to Pakistan, and the 3-day visas show that Pakistan was willing, even eager, to have US tourists
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/02/11…
A travel article recommending visiting Lahore, Pakistan in 1981
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/travel/lahore-a…
A letter to the New York Times in 1981 by the US Consul in Lahore, recommending visiting and giving travel advice:
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/23/travel/l-lahore…
Agreed!
Just more cut & paste from James McPherson & his alias Ellen The Cut & Paste Queens!
JaNe McPherson your nose is growing again!
His usual answer I am the President and I do what I want.
So Mr. Alan West believes that obama is a phony and not eligible for the office. I would guess that every person in Washington D.C. is cognizant of the deception. The entire world wonders at American impassivity. Any person in official responsibility who is aiding this usurpation by turning a blind eye to it is guilty of violating US Law and their oath of office. Is there not one patriot who will step forward with solid evidence of this treason in defense of the Republic?
The world does not know of this fraud. When I talk to people abroad and tell them that he is ineligible and a usurper, nobody believes I word I say.
Gee, and most of the people in this country don't believe you either. Maybe you're just wrong.
No JaNe you are right & every body else is wrong is how it goes! OMG what a fool you are!
USBT
" you are right & every body else is wrong"
Since most people agree with me on this issue–and disagree with you and Frog–your comment makes no sense, as usual, Cougar.
Hay Nut-Case ACLU Atheist James BS McPhersonnnn Another Thumbs Down Chump Your Just Like The Imposter Muslim Pres Obama Lie Lie Lie Than Say "Most People Agree With Me And Your Father George Soros" Sounds Like That Same Old BS From The Obama Goons, Yikeess, We Just Hope That After The GOP Win 2012 Election, That You Soros And The Obama Family Live Happily Ever After In Maybe Libya. God Bless America.
JaNe You are hallucinating or doing drugs if you think a majority agree with you.
No, just able to read polls and stories about polls–unlike you, apparently. Of course I also read things beyond the offereings of WorldNutsDaily and the Western "Journalism" Center–and neither of those, by the way, claims that "most of the people in this country" believe Obama "is ineligible and a usurper."
JaNe you are so misguided! You are one of those who P.T. Barnum spoke of. So sad but as they say to argue with a fool is but a waste of one's time! Therefore i will not argue with you foolish one.
"Therefore i will not argue with you"
If only that were true, but I know you can't help yourself–even when all evidence proves you to be wrong.
And for the record, there's no evidence that Barnum said the quote most frequently attributed to him. Someone else said it about a Barnum scam, though even that guy may have gotten the comment from elsewhere.
JaNe us talk facts then! The latest polls show that 28% of all Democrats feel that Obama's eligibility needs to be investigated, Independents who in most elections determine the winner are much higher at 43% & Republicans are at 77%.
Once again i have proven you wrong & the liar that you are. Do you not tire of me making a fool of you?
As for Barnum as usual you are splitting hairs once again. In fact you have no proof either way which is common when it comes to famous quotes. So sad that you feel it so necessary to desperately try to discredit even such a small issue as Barnum's famous quote.
I really wasn't trying to discredit you with the Barnum quote, Cougar–it's a common belief, and I thought it worth noting the truth about it. But despite your failure to cite which "latest poll" you chose, (I'm guessing a Fox News reader survey?) "needing investigation" is still not synonymous with saying they believe Obama "is ineligible and a usurper."
JaNe the Barnum quote by you"it's common belief" is not fact! I said nothing of any one believing anything! I stated facts & you simply choose to avoid the facts of what i said on both issues. I suggest you Google for yourself ( if you know how?) all of the current polls which i did on Obama should be investigated on his eligibility. You will find all of the polls from CNN to Fox News!
You are amazingly dense!
The poll that you are quoting was from WND. No other poll has anywhere near such numbers.
The reason that dozens of senators and congressmen have sent letters saying that Obama was born in Hawaii and none is calling for an investigation of his place of birth, and the reason that all eight declared Republican presidential candidates say that Obama was born in Hawaii, and the reason that Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly call birthers crazy is that the evidence that he was born in Hawaii is overwhelming.
1. Obama has now shown both his short-form and long-form birth certificates, which THREE Republican officials in Hawaii have stated are accurate regarding the place of birth.
2. There were notices of birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961. The claim that the notices could have been placed by lying relatives turns out to be false because whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital, Hawaii insisted on a witness statement.
3. IF a child is born outside of the USA, the US insists on either a US visa on a foreign passport or the child being entered on his mother's US passport before being allowed to enter the USA. If such a document existed for Obama in 1961–PARTICULARLY if the birth was in Kenya–it would have been filed away, and the application for it would have been filed away–and the document itself or the application for it would have been found long ago.
4. WND reported that the US Immigration and Naturalization Service checked on Obama's place of birth TWICE, with five years between the two checks, and each time it concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii. WND then asked how the INS concluded that fact. The answer to that question is obvious. What does the INS normally do to check the place of birth? It asks for the birth certificate. So the US government, the US INS, in the 1960s and 1970s asked to see Obama's birth certificate, saw it, and concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii.
Also, there is NO Kenyan document (except for obvious forgeries). And, there is NO Kenyan document even showing that Obama's mother was in Kenya in 1961. And WND recently reported that the conclusion of Kenya's investigation was that it determined that there was no evidence that any document was missing.
Obama's Kenyan grandmother said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was BORN IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview (Hartford Courant) that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama's birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
NO WONDER all those congressmen and senators and Republican presidential candidates think that Obama was born in Hawaii. They think that the world is round too, and that 2+1=3.
JaNe,Ellen or whatever name you want to go by ?Fake is good! Do not waste my time with all of this cut & paste crap from the past, lies, spin & half truths by you trying to distort the poll numbers! Clearly a majority of Americans 53% think that Obama's eligibility should be investigated. Why you choose to refer to only the WND poll as a example is misleading when you take under consideration all polls. Obama's home state of Illinois is split on this issue 47% to 47%. Following are other poll examples: California 51%, Washington State 53%, Texas 61%, North Dakota 61%, South Dakota 65%, Wyoming 65%, Mississippi 66% etc. etc. etc.
Sure they do. WND is an impartial, reliable news service. Its polls are perfectly accurate. Sure they are. Sure.
Dream on.
So Congressman West, When are you going to persue this, Now, Next Week, Next Month, or Never? We the people just want to know, were you serious, of just fooling around………..
The reason that dozens of senators and congressmen have sent letters saying that Obama was born in Hawaii and none is calling for an investigation of his place of birth, and the reason that all eight declared Republican presidential candidates say that Obama was born in Hawaii, and the reason that Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly call birthers crazy is that the evidence that he was born in Hawaii is overwhelming.
And probably by now Congressman West knows that Pakistan was NOT on any "no travel list" nor did it bar US tourists from visiting in 1981. So any US citizen could go there using an ordinary US passport.
Ellen! JaNe! Nothing more than cut & paste by James McPherson The Cut & Paste Queen.
Why are you afraid of the facts?
Just cut & paste James McPherson & Ellen his alias.
HOW THIS FRAUD CAN CONTINUE TO HOLD THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT, WHEN HE HAS VIOLATED HIS OATH OF OFFICE SO MANY TIMES, AND NOT BE UNDER IMPEACHMENT, IS BEYOND ALL REASON!
Because many presidents have done so, violated the Constitution, and it started early and became intense with Woodrow Wilson and the advent of the Federal Reserve. Would you have impeached Wilson for signing the Federal Reserve Act? I would have. If not, what you said holds no water because this did not start with Obama – he is merely the latest puppet. And he should be impeached, as you said, for so many things.
The question….. "Is there not ONE PATRIOT who will stand up and challenge this IMPOSTOR ?"
Lt. Col. Terry Lakin did. Orly Taitz did. Jerome Corsi did. Philip Berg did…. but why can't we get Congress to call for an open investigation of this non-disclosure, this coverup ? My heart aches for someone in Congress to have the courage to stand up and call for a prosecution of this fraud.
This is the time Thomas Jefferson was talking about. Are we willing to see blood shed to bring forth the truth ? Something is really wrong with this country. It is not your job to offer silent, obedient consent. Let's get off our butts and go to Washington and demand an investigation !!! Nov. 5th, 2011.
You damn right and we want to know NOW.
WHEN WILL CONGRESS DO THEIR JOB ??
WE THE PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THE WHOLE BUNCH, INCLUDING obammy !!!
Prez, what are you hiding??? Enough to bring down your "house of cards".
How many of our men and boys have given their lives trying to stop communism in this world? Why are we and our elected officials allowing this communist and all his communist allies in the congress and senate to continue to destroy this country? Don't we as citizens not only have a right but an obligation to our country and constitution to rise up and stop what is going on in our government by any means necessary?
Our constitution gives us the right to eliminate all of those in office that are not following the law to be removed and a new one established and I see no reason that he and all of his czars and comrades like Pelosi, Reid Barney Franks, Ho Chi Kerry, and all of those that stood with him on Obamacare, have not been prosocuted for treason and giving comfort to the enemy like the billions sent to Lybia, saudi arabia and for the millions he sent to Mexico in guns and ammo when his so called attorney General allowed them to be bought and and handed over to the drug Cartels,but yet those same people are pushing to have our guns and ammo taken away. I am tired of saying Mr.President show us your real birth certificate and all of your records please. To hell with that . I AM YOUR YOUR EMPLOYER AND I DEMAND TO SEE THOSE DAMN PAPERS OUR GET YOUR COMMUNIST MUSLIM ASS OUT OF MY OFFICE AND GET YOUR WHOLE DAMN FAMILY OUT OF THE PEOPLES HOUSE,YOU AND YOUR WHOLE PARTY ARE FIRED TODAY IF BY 4 O"CLOCK YOU DON'T PRODUCE THE REQUESTED DOCUMENTS
" IF BY 4 O"CLOCK YOU DON'T PRODUCE THE REQUESTED DOCUMENTS"
Gee, I'll bet nothing happens, skippy–what will you do then, extend your deadline?
It sounds great to me JaNe! Personally i do not think the fake Messiah /POTUS will ever voluntarily produce his birth certificate so therefore i would go have dinner.
USBT
the felony probable cause is there and has been for almost 4 years why don't they put his ass in jail besides being crooks they are cowards too
Why has no one started impeachment proceedings against Obummer ??? Bkacks are not going to riot they don't like him either …It is better to admit your mistake now and get him out and save the country , getting his ass out would make you a hero not a zero !!
Genesis 9:20-27 KJV is all that needs to be siad about this issue of Obama and Al West..Mr. West is a military man and a good one but still…the fact remains that Gen 9 is STILL in effect and is still intact and means what it says!!! NO I would NOT vote for him based upon that "FACT"!!!
If Congressman West would attack Obama's eligibility relentlessly as Donald Trump did & not give in to the pressures then i believe that the American public would back him & overwhelmingly endorse him to become our first legitimate Black President.
Congress doesn't have the courage to ask Obama such a question or any other controversial question for that matter, they have allowed Congress to become neutralized!
It is a birther lie that Pakistan was not open to US tourists in 1981. It was open. It was neither on any US government “no travel list,” nor did Pakistan keep Americans from visiting. So the answer to the question is that Obama traveled on his US passport.
Here is some evidence:
A US State Department advisory saying that Pakistan grants US tourists 30-day visas. The US State Department would not have put it out if the US barred US citizens from going to Pakistan, and the 3-day visas show that Pakistan was willing, even eager, to have US tourists
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/02/11…
A travel article recommending visiting Lahore, Pakistan in 1981
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/travel/lahore-a…
A letter to the New York Times in 1981 by the US Consul in Lahore, recommending visiting and giving travel advice:
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/23/travel/l-lahore…
James McPherson by your using cut & paste for your alias Ellen in addition to Ellen having the same writing style as you fools no one except those new to this site. If you doubt what i am saying then i suggest that you ask Gary of Colo. or Carol what their opinion s are.
I am not James McPherson.
AND it is the facts that count, and the facts show that it is a birther fantasy that Pakistan was either on a "no travel list" or that it barred US citizens from visiting.
Congress is well aware of Obozo's ineligibility but they're either too afraid and do not want to rock the boat, or they're in it together. Something fishy is going on in Washingtion regarding this issue. Even Boehner won't address it and it is his responsibility to do so. Congress is the only one that can have any action brought against the prez, and the only way to get it started is if we put pressure on our congressmen. Write letters, emails or phone calls to your representative and demand they investigate. I thing enough evidence has been presented to warrant an investigation. I for one have already written one of my representatives and am waiting for a reply (that is if he does reply). Lets put pressure on them to start the ball rolling. and if they don't comply, we the people have to band together and demonstrate in Washington. If the million men march can do it so can we. Secondly, a coup may be in order to topple this corrupt individual and his thugs. By the way where is the Tea Party in all of this? Why aren't they getting involved? They seem to be with everything else. I am so disgusted, I could puke.
The reason that dozens of senators and congressmen have sent letters saying that Obama was born in Hawaii and none is calling for an investigation of his place of birth, and the reason that all eight declared Republican presidential candidates say that Obama was born in Hawaii, and the reason that Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly call birthers crazy is that the evidence that he was born in Hawaii is overwhelming.
1. Obama has now shown both his short-form and long-form birth certificates, which THREE Republican officials in Hawaii have stated are accurate regarding the place of birth.
2. There were notices of birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961. The claim that the notices could have been placed by lying relatives turns out to be false because whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital, Hawaii insisted on a witness statement.
3. IF a child is born outside of the USA, the US insists on either a US visa on a foreign passport or the child being entered on his mother's US passport before being allowed to enter the USA. If such a document existed for Obama in 1961–PARTICULARLY if the birth was in Kenya–it would have been filed away, and the application for it would have been filed away–and the document itself or the application for it would have been found long ago.
4. WND reported that the US Immigration and Naturalization Service checked on Obama's place of birth TWICE, with five years between the two checks, and each time it concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii. WND then asked how the INS concluded that fact. The answer to that question is obvious. What does the INS normally do to check the place of birth? It asks for the birth certificate. So the US government, the US INS, in the 1960s and 1970s asked to see Obama's birth certificate, saw it, and concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii.
Also, there is NO Kenyan document (except for obvious forgeries). And, there is NO Kenyan document even showing that Obama's mother was in Kenya in 1961. And WND recently reported that the conclusion of Kenya's investigation was that it determined that there was no evidence that any document was missing.
Obama's Kenyan grandmother said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was BORN IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview (Hartford Courant) that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama's birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
NO WONDER all those congressmen and senators and Republican presidential candidates think that Obama was born in Hawaii. They think that the world is round too, and that 2+1=3.
The Cut & Paste Queen James McPherson & his alias Ellen!
Nothing new just more cut & paste crap which we have all read many times before.
At least some Congressmen have the cahonnas to ask the question. Lets face facts all of our represenatives are gulity of not getting at the truth. They as a boby representing the American people have an obligation to find out the truth. Congressmen and Senators took an oath to uphold the constitution of the US OF America. Most if not all have failed miserably. It is a sad day that the people of this country entrusted our great nation with the likes of Obama and his wife. I am sure his birth certificate is a foregery and no one is doing anything about it. The supreme court justices also can't hide.
That's an old question. My question is why has it taken this long. It was known long before Obama was sworn into office that he traveled to Pakistan, during a time Americans were prohibited from doing so, and that he did so under an Indonesian passport. His adoptive father, Lolo Soetero, was of Indonesian descent. Barry attended school in Indonesia during a time when no one except an Indonesian could attend school there. It's not hard to figure out. The COLB he posted, in April, is an absolute absurdity. The problem is no one is brave enough to appoint a special prosecutor and begin an investigation into his background for fear of being branded a "racist". Donald tried and already wears the brand the MSM has given him. It's going to take someone with enough horsepower and guts to open this up to public scrutiny and criminal litigation.
"during a time Americans were prohibited from doing so"
Sorry, that's a birther myth–and not true.
"he did so under an Indonesian passport"
There's no evidence for that, as far as I know–perhaps you could provide some?
JaNe i see that you have brought out your alias Ellen to try to give you some kind of credibility. Odd how you attack only the issues in USNavyChiefRet post which are debatable. Then again how
could any one know definitely when everything about the fake Messiah Obama is under lock & key!
Re: "during a time Americans were prohibited from doing so…"
The facts are that in 1981 Americans were NOT prohibited from going to Pakistan either by the US government or by the Pakistan government, which was anxious to have tourists visit and in fact welcomed US tourists with 30-day visas on arrival. Indonesia says that Obama never had an Indonesian passport.
The COLB is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, used by by thousands of people every year, and three Republican officials in Hawaii have confirmed the facts on it–that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.
Re: "Barry attended school in Indonesia during a time when no one except an Indonesian could attend school there. "
Answer: Who told you that no one except an Indonesian could attend school there? It is made up. It is not true. If you want to check, call the Indonesian Embassy.
Ellen / JaNe just more cut & paste & lies! Never have i ever known any one as despicable as you James. You border on being white liberal progressive trash!
The facts are that in 1981 Americans were NOT prohibited from going to Pakistan either by the US government or by the Pakistan government, which was anxious to have tourists visit and in fact welcomed US tourists with 30-day visas on arrival. Indonesia says that Obama never had an Indonesian passport.
He went to visit his mother in Indonesia then he traveled from Indonesia to India and Pakistan with a fellow student that happen to be Muslim. So his US Pass port should reflect that. If it does not then he used a Indonesia Pass port.
Simple, show the information stamped on his US Passport.
Now the only restriction in 1981 was traveling from Pakistan to India. So what order did he visit each country. You could go from India to Pakistan but not return that way. No matter what your Visa said on it.
Barry is lying and people are dying.
I'm pretty sure ellen is hunting for the answer. Amazing how those lefties can come up with
an answer for everything and if the situation changes, the story adapts accordingly.
The answer is that it is a LIE that a US passport was not accepted in Pakistan in 1981 or that Pakistan was on a "no travel list." So, Obama could have gone to Pakistan on an ordinary US passport, as any US citizen could. And a call to the Indonesian Embassy in Washington will show that He never and an Indonesian passport (because he was never an Indonesian citizen)–you can call to confirm both.
So, what passport did he use? He used a US passport.
Further proof. He must have had a US passport since at least the time that he returned from Indonesia to attend school in Hawaii. That is because (1) He traveled alone: And (2) if he had used any other country's passport than a US passport, he would have needed a US visa on that passport, and if he had had a US visa then he would have had to have applied for it in Indonesia, and no such document has been found–neither the visa nor the application.
It is easy to make up lies about people traveling on foreign passports. Did you know that Newt Gingrich traveled to Tasmania on a German passport? Sarah Palin used a Canadian passport to visit Britain and a British passport to visit Mexico. Pawlenty uses his Polish passport regularly, as does Boehner.
That should read: "he never HAD an Indonesian passport (because he was never an Indonesian citizen…"
Ellen / JaNe you are a liar!
Just nothing more than the old recycled cut & paste by James McPherson & his alias Ellen!
Side note, it took the American fighting men and women weeks to topple the Afghan and Iraq Armies. How much time has it taken to take out the Libyan army? Hint: more time than that both Afghan and Iraq combined. That old Barry sure will show them not to mess with the US. NOT.
The answer to the question: What passport did you use to go to Pakistan is: A US PASSPORT.
Pakistan was not on any "no travel list" nor did it bar US citizens from visiting using ordinary US passports. Pakistan International Airlines even had offices on Fifth Avenue in New York and flew from New York's JFK airport via London to Karachi.
Dear Ellen; You can not insert a copy paste answer to my question. You see I never said Pakistan was on any USA "No Travel List". I said he traveled to three countries that trip, Indonesia to see mommy, then India and Pakistan. He went To Indonesia, then it must of been India next then Pakistan, because you were not allowed to go from Pakistan to India in 1981. They have been not friendly with each other for some time now. See he did not fly the route you added to the end of your sentence as if that was the flight he took. Yes someone could fly from New York to London then to Pakistan with a US Passport, But Barry did not take that route.
So you have seen his passport from 1981 and you know exactly where and when he flew in 1981?
Interesting, you really have seen the US passport from 1981? I will say mine is some speculation, but since you seem to have seen the real document then I guess you could tell me this? What countries did he go though to get there and what order?
Remember I never said a person from the USA could not go to Pakistan and that they were on a "No travel list". SOOOOO whatcha got.
I admit I did not grasp your point. Are you saying that Obama went to India? What is your source for this? Maybe he flew from Indonesia to Hong Kong and from there directly to Pakistan.
I am sorry to have misunderstood the discussion. I had thought that it was about the allegation that West made that Obama could not have used a US passport to enter Pakistan. Although you did no claim this, he did–and it is worth replying to his allegation.
As to my seeing the passport from 1981, no I haven't. Nor did I see Pawlenty's Polish passport, the one that he uses so frequently. But I did show that Obama must have had a US passport when he returned from Indonesia because (1) he traveled alone; and (2) without a US passport, he would have needed a US visa on a foreign passport, and if he had that, he would have had to apply for it in Indonesia, and the application has not been found. Moreover, Obama did not have an Indonesian passport, Indonesia says, so what is the point of dreaming that he could have traveled on some other passport? There is no evidence for it.
More cut 7 paste by James McPherson & his alias Ellen!
See I can find he went to Indonesia then traveled somehow to India or Pakistan (Both in the end) but can not get the order they came in. I stated that at that time you could not go to From Pakistan to India but could do it the other way around or go to each separately from Hong Kong. My point is visiting all these countries was quite an expense for a person without a job and just graduated. Where did he get all this money. His mother did not have it. His Grandparents were not rich. But yet a man goes to the finest schools in the land, flies in 1981 to all these places and never had a job. It takes a lot of money to do the things he did and I see no proof that he had student loans, income or a wealthy family to fall back on. Just plain weird. See I speculate, the others just sling it out there without any proof. I seek the proof and most I say can be found in reliable places on the internet, so when its cold, rainy or I just can't go outside I search this amazing internet to try a solve clues. Curiosity? yes most defiantly . Believe the man named Barry's version of his life? No. He has proven to be very untruthful even in his short time on the campaign trail and in office. He is no better than most Elected officials that I have come across in my life and most likely not worthy enough to be in the White House.
You use these words at the end of the last post.
"There is no evidence for it."
My point quite clearly there is no evident left behind. Then in law enforcement it is called a cold trail. Barry has many cold trails and he ask to be President and he is a Public servant to the people of this country and he should not hide anything from the people he serves. His books of his life are mostly fiction and should of been sold as such. His history is tainted and he just laughs and call people names when they question his version when in fact they are not facts. So when a man with a history of lying is questioned, what else can you do but question it. He is only in this job for his own ego, and really does not get it yet that his actions have large consequences. By looking around this beautiful country, his has failed.
Don't care about this he is no chance of winning anyway:
Pawlenty's Polish passport
Bachmann is going to take the lead here soon and could stumble, but she is no Palin and will not fall for the Left Stream media like Sarah did. I think it time we gave a Woman a chance to be President, I would vote for Hillary but she seems to be waiting for the 2012 VP slot that will be opening soon. Shame I think she could win the whole thing this time.
Bet you were expecting the Hillary card played by me were you,? See I voted for her husband the second term and my biggest mistake was falling for the Humble Jimmy Carter, let me tell you that night mare. And they call the 2008 "The worst since the Great depression". Really ? 21 percent interest rates, unemployment in some areas were in the 30 percent area. I thin the average was 14 percent. Gas lines to get 5 gallons of gas at a time. Od and even days for gas for your car. 444 day of hostages held in Iran. But the spew out this line that President is the reason for everything bad. Silly isn't it?
Last President should of had Bush behind it. Old tired and can't wait till January 2013 and our new President.
Re: "Old tired and can't wait till January 2013 and our new President. "
So why did you post the speculation about the order of visiting Indonesia, Pakistan and India. By the way, you did not answer my question about whether you put your left shoe on first or your right shoe.
Sarah has a Spanish passport
Romney has a Romanian passport
All total speculation.
THERE IS MUCH MORE TO THIS CONSPIRACY ITS REALLY AN AGENDA BY THE LIBERAL AMERICA HATING GODLESS COMMIES!!! THE COMMIES AND THE NWO GLOBALISTS ARE WORKING SEPARATELY BUT IN TANDEM TO BRING AMERICA TO ITS KNEES!!!!
You have all 'drank the Koolaid"
Pakistan was not closed to American visitors in 1981 – however, it was advised that Americans traveling there take precautions that this was an unstable country. Obama could very well have traveled with an U.S. passport.
James McPherson & his alias Ellen The cut & paste queens!
Nothing new here! Just more of the old recycled cut & paste crap & comments.
I am not James McPherson.
And, it is the facts that count, and the facts show that it is a birther myth that Pakistan was on a "no travel list" or that Pakistan barred US citizens from visiting Pakistan in 1981.
WhAT A JOKE YOU HAVE BECOME JAMES McPHERSON ALIAS ELLEN!
I have shown the facts. All you do is call names.
Those are the facts. Some people are interested in the facts.
I have shown the facts. Some people are interested in the facts.
The WND poll is unreliable and meaningless.
Typical for you James McPherson & your alias Ellen to avoid a issue that you know that you can not win. Forget the WND Poll! All of the other polls prove me right & you wrong.
Ellen alias for James McPherson The Cut & Paste Queen!
There is a big difference in truth & lies & you are a liar!